tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post419294849432233597..comments2024-03-28T04:42:46.147-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Ann, I need your assessment. I thought Dershowitz was excellent but I’m not a lawyer nor a law professor. You are. Give him a grade, Professor."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger196125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67551794170147691392020-01-29T13:30:14.767-06:002020-01-29T13:30:14.767-06:00I think Dershowitz citing the severity of the trea...I think Dershowitz citing the severity of the treason and bribery criteria is well taken. His alternative for an impeachable offense is, to paraphrase, Justice Potter Stewart in another context: <br /><br />"I know it when I see it"<br /><br />He doesn't think Trump's words, whether directly linked to the Bidens or not, meet the Potter test.<br /><br />LincWLinchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06047946474048314319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34527742911786550742020-01-29T00:23:02.113-06:002020-01-29T00:23:02.113-06:00The Daily Show host Trevor Noah took a look at the...<a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-show-host-trevor-noah-destroys-trump-lawyer-alan-dershowitzs-impeachment-hypocrisy" rel="nofollow">The Daily Show host Trevor Noah</a> took a look at the “insane” legal team that President Trump put together to defend him. Not only does it include Ken Starr, who ran the investigation that led to Bill Clinton’s impeachment but also Alan Dershowitz who famously defended O.J. Simpson. (Both men also defended the late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.)<br /><br />“These lawyers are perfect for Trump,” Noah said, “because they have experience with super-guilty people and super-horny presidents.”gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219461694806089345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21163533805297641152020-01-28T22:14:39.824-06:002020-01-28T22:14:39.824-06:00Prediction: There will be no witnesses.
In the sh...<i>Prediction: There will be no witnesses.</i><br /><br />In the short term, the very short term, witnesses is an issue. But, it really doesn't matter in the long run.<br /><br />In the longer term, (if I were McConnell) I would tell the Republican "moderates" to vote their conscience on conviction or acquittal. Then live with your legacy because everyone knows what this shameful exercise is. <br /><br />Well, most people with an IQ above room temperature get it. Some of our commenters don't, but it is hard to imagine anyone that brain dead. It's an exercise in raw cynical manipulation, just like the Kavanaugh hearings. <br /><br />They all know it. All of them in the House and the Senate.Francisco Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06352134756750456783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21137608542483466612020-01-28T21:10:47.341-06:002020-01-28T21:10:47.341-06:00Dershowitz was a bad hire because everybody knows ...Dershowitz was a bad hire because everybody knows that if Trump is removed from office by a rogue Senate, Hillary Clinton will be indicted - not in DC, but in Arkansas, where she might very well be convicted, Obama will be indicted in DC (although of course not convicted, because nobody wants him to be convicted, just indicted), and Trump will be reelected with the fullly enthusiastic help of President Pence, who will be the first sitting president ever to run for vice president.<br /><br />You do not need a second-rate old phony intellectual man like Dershowitz, with his evil connections to the pro-choice cabal, to the murderer Simpson, and to the evil Epstein and his pal the semi-fugitive "Prince Andrew", to make your case when you are as far ahead of the people who hate you as Trump is. <br /><br />Also, I think you were not saying what you were really thinking when you said you thought he was one of their better speakers. <br /><br />By the way, please change your avatar. Honesty demands it.stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81273242674016491662020-01-28T20:55:47.767-06:002020-01-28T20:55:47.767-06:00"Why try to call Schiff as a witness when Rep..."Why try to call Schiff as a witness when Reps can question him for 8 hours Thursday?'<br /><br />Are the House managers under oath when they are being questioned? Were they under oath when they made their initial presentation? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37931752804112214362020-01-28T20:33:29.971-06:002020-01-28T20:33:29.971-06:00stephen cooper said...
Dershowitz was a bad hire
...<i>stephen cooper said...<br />Dershowitz was a bad hire</i><br /><br />Why was Dershowitz a bad hire? He seemed one of their better speakers. <br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18021474460602049582020-01-28T20:27:06.620-06:002020-01-28T20:27:06.620-06:00assuming Trump is reelected and that a Democrat wi...assuming Trump is reelected and that a Democrat wins in 2024 ...<br />unless that Democrat is (a) independently wealthy and (b) has not communicated with foreign governments ....<br /><br />those of us still alive in 2025 are going to see that Democratic president impeached, if there is a Republican majority in Congress.<br /><br />We all know that, it is the new normal.<br /><br />And yes Dershowitz was a bad hire, so was Bolton. I am assuming Trump hires losers just to show he can, the way the coolest kids at high school used to hang out with social outcasts that the semi-cool kids would never be seen talking to. To show they could.<br /><br />stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58095481669778225842020-01-28T19:37:25.741-06:002020-01-28T19:37:25.741-06:00This mental masturbation of legal minds gets eliti...This mental masturbation of legal minds gets elitist and insulting at a certain point. Is treason excusable based on what the House Managers have presented? To plan and execute a deceptive coordinated overthrow of the democratically elected POTUS from day one after the election seems like a much more serious affront to the Constitution than even the worst accusations against Trump. Stop thinking so much about how to restate the obvious so it's not so obvious. That's not as impressive as you've been taught to believe. Hell, almost every overpaid hack talking head on TV does just that daily. Such thinking and misplaced values could never produce a document as uniquely clear and flexibly durable as the Constitution, although the word count would exceed it by multiples of multiples.<br /><br />You can't honestly suggest that deciding to impeach a President on election night, and then looking for three years for a justification is anything other than disfranchisement of 63 million American voters plus the ones who voted against him but still believe he won honestly and legally. Do we really think it's intelligent to give any validity to the aspiring idea that no Presidential election is really final, and that it's not an election but legal dispute?bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20440431106793251322020-01-28T19:29:57.651-06:002020-01-28T19:29:57.651-06:00Go ahead. Have whatever witnesses you want. Bast...Go ahead. Have whatever witnesses you want. Bastardize their testimony into something sinister, illegal, unprecedented. Have a somber, sad vote. Escort Trump from the premises. Reap the whirlwind. Just don't say you had no idea.Equipment Maintenancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319547032771168073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70227288776520946902020-01-28T19:29:33.863-06:002020-01-28T19:29:33.863-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33511124726070465382020-01-28T19:27:47.732-06:002020-01-28T19:27:47.732-06:00
Rocket surgeons at work
https://mobile.twitter....<br /><br />Rocket surgeons at work<br /><br />https://mobile.twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin/status/1222315561759186945narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35823315716364268152020-01-28T19:18:14.972-06:002020-01-28T19:18:14.972-06:00Why try to call Schiff as a witness when Reps can ...Why try to call Schiff as a witness when Reps can question him for 8 hours Thursday?readeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699913625782012426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8893614230056864632020-01-28T18:55:26.635-06:002020-01-28T18:55:26.635-06:00That’s good to know, ARM. I’d hate to be misquote...That’s good to know, ARM. I’d hate to be misquoted.Beasts of Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037690027365480123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37544789636066838862020-01-28T18:49:52.763-06:002020-01-28T18:49:52.763-06:00Feinstein said ...
The LA Times misunderstood what...<i>Feinstein said ...<br />The LA Times misunderstood what I said today. Before the trial I said I'd keep an open mind. Now that both sides made their cases, it’s clear the president’s actions were wrong. He withheld vital foreign assistance for personal political gain. That can’t be allowed to stand.</i><br /><br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23783682403625818492020-01-28T18:46:27.923-06:002020-01-28T18:46:27.923-06:00Graham and Cornyn today mentioned five witnesses t...Graham and Cornyn today mentioned five witnesses they’ll call if Bolton is voted through: Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Eric Ciaramella, Alexandra Chalupa, and Adam Schiff. Beasts of Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037690027365480123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25925450574455080042020-01-28T18:39:07.874-06:002020-01-28T18:39:07.874-06:00Surprised it got this far. With a weak hand Pelosi...<i>Surprised it got this far. With a weak hand Pelosi has created more angst for the red team than could have been reasonably expected.</i><br /><br />Well it wasn't like they were going to be passing any bills or other governing. Gives them all something to keep out of trouble...rehajmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554135440560051175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52353866409621221972020-01-28T18:38:56.517-06:002020-01-28T18:38:56.517-06:00Feinstein signals she may vote for acquittal. I’m...Feinstein signals she may vote for acquittal. I’m thinking of a certain Led Zeppelin song...Beasts of Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037690027365480123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-781879123124366752020-01-28T18:36:22.486-06:002020-01-28T18:36:22.486-06:00Blogger Inga said...
Looks like McConnell doesn’t ...<i>Blogger Inga said...<br />Looks like McConnell doesn’t have enough votes to block witnesses.<br /><br />eric said...<br />Prediction: There will be no witnesses.</i><br /><br />This was also my prediction but the WSJ says that currently McConnell doesn't have the votes. Maybe some Republican senators are looking to extract their pound of flesh from Trump for their vote. Given that his word is worthless I cannot see the point of this, but maybe. Alternatively, some of them do not feel they can ignore Bolton. Bolton is arguably the most truly right wing person to ever hold senior office in recent administrations. He bleeds Republican. To ignore him may be a bridge too far.<br /><br />Surprised it got this far. With a weak hand Pelosi has created more angst for the red team than could have been reasonably expected.<br /><br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54211231813467764222020-01-28T18:36:08.539-06:002020-01-28T18:36:08.539-06:00so even more coverups, apparently, in the horowitz...so even more coverups, apparently, in the horowitz report,narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8459777873118397672020-01-28T18:24:46.626-06:002020-01-28T18:24:46.626-06:00
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1222307248237...<br />https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1222307248237699073narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82023238709900594972020-01-28T18:21:23.278-06:002020-01-28T18:21:23.278-06:00it's this kind of a strange strange world,
ht...it's this kind of a strange strange world,<br /><br />https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/28/truth-a-major-casualty-of-impeachment-hearings/narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36875131216237809742020-01-28T18:20:54.655-06:002020-01-28T18:20:54.655-06:00Ann Althouse said...I think that question should b...<i>Ann Althouse said...I think that question should be: Restate the constitutional phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" into a workable standard that the House and the Senate can and should use today and in the future in all cases of presidential impeachment. Explain your choice using all of the methodologies of constitutional interpretation that you deem appropriate (and explain why you are deciding this approach to interpretation is appropriate).</i><br /><br />If that is the standard it's probably fair to say that neither side has answered it, Professor. Dershowitz made an attempt and I can understand why you'd conclude he fell short, but I'm not sure the prosecution side even made that attempt (I have not listened to all of the proceedings).<br />I give Dershowitz a few points for addressing the question at all, insofar as "by what standard" is probably the most important thing that should be decided--affecting, as it does, all future Presidents!<br />But I grant I am not not, have never been, nor ever will be a professor of law; my scoring may accordingly be poorly calibrated.HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69380307538891718112020-01-28T18:07:47.186-06:002020-01-28T18:07:47.186-06:00reading comprehension is not your strong suit,
h...reading comprehension is not your strong suit,<br /><br /><br />https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-01-28/trump-team-wraps-impeachment-defense-with-an-elephant-in-the-senate-john-boltonnarcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21345555161704140502020-01-28T17:58:35.421-06:002020-01-28T17:58:35.421-06:00No witnesses. The Republicans have stipulated to ...No witnesses. The Republicans have stipulated to Bolton's book testimony and have Dershowitz not a crime ass cover. It's all over but the spinning.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048255624944551506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27374209653098228612020-01-28T17:49:34.851-06:002020-01-28T17:49:34.851-06:00well hunter's available, how much he paid to s...well hunter's available, how much he paid to settle the case is an open question, this freak show that's too much for tmz, zylochevsky who is practically a bond villain, none of that interests the press,narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.com