tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4036959456137593141..comments2024-03-28T15:57:43.970-05:00Comments on Althouse: Marine Le Pen uses that "absurd?!" argument I recommended. Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34961508657996116762017-05-03T12:18:50.200-05:002017-05-03T12:18:50.200-05:00Strategic thinking, perhaps. It is surely what Fr...Strategic thinking, perhaps. It is surely what France needs to survive in a liberal world.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29747671735649561302017-05-03T11:08:25.338-05:002017-05-03T11:08:25.338-05:00Of course anyone who's anybody looks to Althou...Of course anyone who's anybody looks to Althouse for advice. mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10775529148897867682017-05-03T09:55:18.605-05:002017-05-03T09:55:18.605-05:00So it was intentional plagiarism?!? And the inten...So it was intentional plagiarism?!? And the intent was to get caught at intentional plagiarism?<br /><br />Why not quote it, with attribution, and say what it is you are doing?<br /><br />Is it essential, Althouse, for there to be some initial deception, some dishonesty in order to make this strategy work? If so, let's call it what it is. A stunt. And in fact, a dishonest stunt.<br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2085393268355185312017-05-03T09:51:43.444-05:002017-05-03T09:51:43.444-05:00Re: Once written, twice . . .
Ann would never giv...Re: Once written, twice . . .<br /><br /><i>Ann would never give Obama or the leader from the left cover for plagiarizing a speech. She would join in on the pile on. But for the right she is more than happy to support plagiarism as being some grand ploy. Thank god Ann is now retired from academia!</i><br /><br />Hmm. Well, let's see what she wrote when Obama <a href="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/02/pride-and-plagiarism.html" rel="nofollow">ripped off some choice lines from Deval Patrick</a>? (Actually, I think they had the same speechwriter, who just recycled a couple of lines for his new client):<br /><br /><i>The question isn't really what counts as plagiarism. We're not imposing sanctions. The question is whether seeing the similarity between the 2 men — Obama and Patrick — makes us think Obama's speechifying is not all that special. And if our good opinion of him is based mainly on his speeches, then we have reason to examine why we're supporting him. But politics is full of stock phrases, contagious memes, and brainstormed messages. If attacks like this work, we'll never hear the end of it. For example, the NYT has this tale of a Bill Clinton "stealing" the phrase "force the spring" found on a sheet of paper in a dead man's typewriter. Do we want every speech larded with acknowledgements? As my wise old friend Joe Blow likes to say.... On the other hand, if that were the rule, you'd probably paraphrase to keep it short — and hide the theft. But it wouldn't be theft if the idea expressed was as unremarkable as the one Obama lifted from Patrick.</i><br /><br />Not highlighting Obama's cleverness in stealing lines (for reasons she explains), but also not exactly "join[ing] in on the pile on."Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83310893063159821632017-05-03T09:41:30.626-05:002017-05-03T09:41:30.626-05:00Ann would never give Obama or the leader from the ...Ann would never give Obama or the leader from the left cover for plagiarizing a speech. She would join in on the pile on. But for the right she is more than happy to support plagiarism as being some grand ploy. Thank god Ann is now retired from academia!<br /><br />BTW, I am not at all surprised that Ann now likes Le Pen.Once written, twice...https://www.blogger.com/profile/10551607322231833310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69477383954541293862017-05-03T09:36:21.474-05:002017-05-03T09:36:21.474-05:00I suppose it's the new Trump style of conserva...I suppose it's the new Trump style of conservative-ish politics -- you know the media hate you with a mad, slavering rage, so you need to trick them into carrying your message for you without their realising it. Like a kind of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization" rel="nofollow">SEO</a>.<br /><br />Well, it's working, I suppose.Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42514674065293960222017-05-03T08:38:09.818-05:002017-05-03T08:38:09.818-05:00It's analogous to sampling in music.She approp...It's analogous to sampling in music.She appropriated parts of his work to create a new piece. When you hear the speeches side by side it's clear that it was meant to be recognized. <a href="https://enduringfriedman.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">check it out here</a>. Heywood Ricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02196900556192534896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71545628979368906582017-05-03T08:31:33.130-05:002017-05-03T08:31:33.130-05:00Ah, des faux nouvelles! Elle apprend vite.<i>Ah, des faux nouvelles! Elle apprend vite.</i>Craig Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17778080830068892260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63445574047670407002017-05-03T08:08:35.299-05:002017-05-03T08:08:35.299-05:00Oddly enough, Mme. Salonneuse, your verbiage was m...Oddly enough, Mme. Salonneuse, your verbiage was much more French than Le Pen's.tcrossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861315905142017219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70130271144487449782017-05-03T08:01:26.840-05:002017-05-03T08:01:26.840-05:00I started the whole "Alt-" thing.I started the whole "Alt-" thing.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2760707439665254892017-05-03T08:01:13.783-05:002017-05-03T08:01:13.783-05:00Wow. Good call, professor. We live in interesting ...Wow. Good call, professor. We live in interesting times. CJinPAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724560605501170131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43267732892403347692017-05-03T07:45:41.421-05:002017-05-03T07:45:41.421-05:00Are you sure you want to connect yourself to Le Pe...Are you sure you want to connect yourself to Le Pen? If it gets out, the New Yorker will write an article about "Alt- right-House".Jaskehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08501826057380223725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35958024156803193552017-05-03T07:39:17.688-05:002017-05-03T07:39:17.688-05:00Breaking News: Bridget Bardot says do not vote for...Breaking News: Bridget Bardot says do not vote for Macron because he has empathy free steely eyes.<br /><br />The women are warning us. Watch out for the WWF villain guy.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18694637350546620352017-05-03T07:39:10.331-05:002017-05-03T07:39:10.331-05:00LeTrolled.LeTrolled.Bill, Republic of Texashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06205704962575861378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61877911212657826452017-05-03T07:30:25.593-05:002017-05-03T07:30:25.593-05:00Is this the revelation? Women like LePen and LaAlt...Is this the revelation? Women like LePen and LaAlthouse think like LaTrumpe, the woman in Trump.<br /><br />After all, the WWF is owned by a woman. Old Female secret is that Fake wrestling tricks the men.<br /><br />The first woman President of France is here, not counting The Courtesans.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51866015625386019182017-05-03T07:28:43.865-05:002017-05-03T07:28:43.865-05:00Womansplaining.Womansplaining.Tankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187906854627334164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57199031412790692522017-05-03T07:27:44.263-05:002017-05-03T07:27:44.263-05:00Paris by cruise line stowaways.Paris by cruise line stowaways.J2https://www.blogger.com/profile/15795576609407206731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67392958560898130312017-05-03T07:20:42.213-05:002017-05-03T07:20:42.213-05:00Althouse + Meade to Paris next week.Althouse + Meade to Paris next week.David Begleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01553331226126840029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2215311013843017822017-05-03T07:16:41.284-05:002017-05-03T07:16:41.284-05:00Where is the link to the "Althouse Political ...Where is the link to the "Althouse Political Advice Portal", so you get a cut of the proceeds?Quaylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05256587837665968489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79329885909590596212017-05-03T07:05:17.763-05:002017-05-03T07:05:17.763-05:00Yikes. Global thought leader. Must be a rush.Yikes. Global thought leader. Must be a rush.J2https://www.blogger.com/profile/15795576609407206731noreply@blogger.com