tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3592148244514308138..comments2024-03-28T07:15:05.586-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Occidental College has been barraged with bogus allegations of sexual assault in recent days after two groups, one claiming to represent 'men's rights' set out to undermine the school's anonymous reporting system..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41687391130416426572013-12-23T03:43:02.890-06:002013-12-23T03:43:02.890-06:00Raise your right hand and repeat after me, "M...Raise your right hand and repeat after me, "Men never lie about rape."<br /><br />Again, "All women are rapists and thats all they are."<br /><br />Again, "We must believe the victim."<br /><br />And finally, "Women falsely accused of rape can sometimes learn from the experience."Micha Elyihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13342792492539185940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16631898264958909492013-12-23T03:23:17.829-06:002013-12-23T03:23:17.829-06:00The feminists are complaining that reports of &qu...The feminists are complaining that reports of "rape!" should be ignored unless they're about legitimate rape? Todd Akin, call your office. A bunch of girls and manginas want to apologize.Micha Elyihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13342792492539185940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40576467236776901022013-12-22T23:01:42.864-06:002013-12-22T23:01:42.864-06:00Perhaps after a night at the college theatre...Perhaps after a night at the college theatre...Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903904675946934952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37978228697850697252013-12-22T23:00:53.299-06:002013-12-22T23:00:53.299-06:00But how does one report a "good rape" at...But how does one report a "good rape" at Occidental? You know, the kind that only women can do...Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09903904675946934952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85157379495400863292013-12-22T22:59:33.422-06:002013-12-22T22:59:33.422-06:00"I do think WhiteThrone's comment is sati..."I do think WhiteThrone's comment is satirical and not an actual call to action." One woman's satire is another man's end-of-professional-affiliation crisis. It's a real laugher for those in power. This is just the start, Ms. Althouse. Maybe after a few dozen more "satirical" acts such as this, the laughing will stop.curmudgeoninchiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14744689529664564054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13010591336501190492013-12-22T22:58:51.704-06:002013-12-22T22:58:51.704-06:00"I do think WhiteThrone's comment is sati..."I do think WhiteThrone's comment is satirical and not an actual call to action." One woman's satire is another man's end-of-professional-affiliation crisis. It's a real laugher for those in power. This is just the start, Ms. Althouse. Maybe after a few dozen more "satirical" acts such as this, the laughing will stop.curmudgeoninchiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14744689529664564054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84468828537303225602013-12-22T21:51:36.865-06:002013-12-22T21:51:36.865-06:00If it is considered rape for a male to pressure a ...If it is considered rape for a male to pressure a female into sex, it should also be considered rape for a female to pressure a male into marriage.Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438099877519107411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71437779869483035762013-12-22T21:49:58.623-06:002013-12-22T21:49:58.623-06:00The charge that "all men are rapists" is...The charge that "all men are rapists" is an attempt by lesbian feminists to get heterosexual women to switch sides.<br /><br />Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438099877519107411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10270267006549350192013-12-22T16:47:50.844-06:002013-12-22T16:47:50.844-06:00"There could have been some intelligent discu..."There could have been some intelligent discussion about women who have engaged in the kind of physical aggression..."<br /><br />I've been involved in advocacy for male victims and victims of female perpetrators for nearly two decades. That "discussion" is NEVER permitted. Greg Allanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04345502997844244773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91745199810961689782013-12-22T14:18:50.262-06:002013-12-22T14:18:50.262-06:00Long dead thread, sorry, but Althouse, you should ...Long dead thread, sorry, but Althouse, you should check out KC Johnson's coverage at Minding the Campus of these college kangaroo courts and how the Obama admin has been trying to make them even less fair. Here's his <a href="http://www.mindingthecampus.com/forum/2013/12/journalism_campus_procedure_an.html" rel="nofollow">most recent piece</a>.Focko Smithermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07542483668873870288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43285503316326381662013-12-22T12:27:10.178-06:002013-12-22T12:27:10.178-06:00Very serious perversions to basis due process righ... Very serious perversions to basis due process rights for college guys is underway on college campuses around the country. Google "Judith Grossman" and see what this respected new york lawyer has to say about these new campus rape courts..I believe she calls them a "snake pit of injustice".scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15400858469789862472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21879989448209529652013-12-21T19:14:21.791-06:002013-12-21T19:14:21.791-06:00fivewheels,
Oh no! How terribly inconvenient to h...fivewheels,<br /><br /><i>Oh no! How terribly inconvenient to have to do such a thing! Especially since they obviously never bothered trying to do that before! What an alien concept!</i><br /><br />It is kind of preposterous that it took a stunt to make them consider the possibility of false reports. Always assuming that it is a stunt. It might be, in fact, just a flood of legitimate reports of what is, legally, sexual assault. <br /><br />As Ann said:<br /><br /><i>It's </i>possible<i> that the reports from men against women are not false, but are reports of conduct that fits the schools definition of sexual assault but that men normally refrain from reporting. I'm thinking of unwanted fondling, hugging, and kissing, which women may impose on men, assuming the men must really want it and/or counting on the tendency of men to silently endure these low-level assaults.</i><br /><br />So if men have been sexually assaulted, in a sense that would be obvious if the sexes were reversed, and a lot of men report such assault at once because someone has alerted them to the fact that this is sexual assault, what's "bogus"? If you wake up to unwanted fondling of your genitals, and someone has alerted you to the fact that this is no more OK for women to do to men than it is for men to do to women, is your complaint thereby bogus? <br /><br />Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19308036482681732382013-12-21T18:17:44.153-06:002013-12-21T18:17:44.153-06:00It doesn't have to be either real or fake repo...It doesn't have to be either real or fake reports. There is plenty of room for it to be both.<br /><br />Were in I in the mood to treat "rape" equally to both sexes there are plenty of situations I've been involved in that have happened where if the genders were reversed it'd be considered "rape" and get the other person thrown in jail.<br /><br />If the intention is to cause chaos why not start with all the actual incidents of harassment or unrequested physical contact.<br /><br />Example:<br /><br />From Anon,<br />I was drinking a lot with Ms Miller, we made out a bit. I wanted to pull myself out of a bad situation so I left her and went elsewhere at the party. She kept following me so I went to my room and to bed. I fell asleep. I woke with her making unrequested physical contact with my junk saying she was "helping me wake up". etc etc etc.<br /><br />In real life I just told her to leave and just went to bed and she left me alone. No biggie and I'm not marked for life or anything. Reverse the genders and it's not a playful come-on but sexual assault of someone who is sleeping. The story is true but the purpose is to expose the system for being garbage.Dr Hubert Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06813519370762933440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5410855655754966572013-12-21T18:07:15.287-06:002013-12-21T18:07:15.287-06:00I assume serial rapist means more then 2. So 12% m...I assume serial rapist means more then 2. So 12% minimum of the women at Occidental have been raped by them, or 6% twice- but a large number. Unless they're wearing masks and clubbing them in dark parking lots and hauling the victimes somewhere else, it should be easy to identify this evil 4%. IOW- false statistics.<br /><br />What Kevin said. Saul would be proud of the tactic. Gospacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570281939230746682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28991008181675769232013-12-21T16:07:13.379-06:002013-12-21T16:07:13.379-06:00Sorry folks, whatever the setting, when we're ...Sorry folks, whatever the setting, when we're discussing anonymous accusations against others being sent to non-judicial agents so that action can be taken against a third party, we have stepped deeply into Soviet territory here.<br /><br />If I was a Congresscritter from California, I would push to have Occidental's its tax exemption cut because it denies its students their constitutional rights as openly as any racist school denies its non-white students theirs.<br /><br />Do I approve of the students submitting false reports? Yes, and I would approve of even more radical "propaganda of the deed" activity in a case this awful.YoungHegelianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02723316130501823658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82564818384878100362013-12-21T15:52:00.600-06:002013-12-21T15:52:00.600-06:00@Drago-
Stop pickin' on Rocky, man...
Yes I ...@Drago-<br /><br />Stop pickin' on Rocky, man...<br /><br />Yes I agree! And your comment helps to prove my point...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75912707385160698092013-12-21T15:31:37.071-06:002013-12-21T15:31:37.071-06:00Julius: "Even if they are filing false report...Julius: "Even if they are filing false reports,..."<br /><br />Is this terminology ("false reports") even applicable given that these "reports" are provided to non-law lefty-political hacks on campus as opposed to legitimate law enforcement authorities?<br /><br />Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59169559974005224732013-12-21T15:29:09.031-06:002013-12-21T15:29:09.031-06:00pst314 said...
For decades the feminist left has b...pst314 said...<br />For decades the feminist left has been loudly insisting that women do not make false rape reports. It was always obvious that this was a lie--not an error, a lie.<br /><br />The left backed off this very quickly when Clinton became ensnared.<br /><br />What the feminists offered up was a brand new category of boorish and potential liable activity, hence the lefties brand spankin' new "one grope rule"!<br /><br />Of course it goes without saying that the feminist "one grope rule" applies only to liberal/left politicians.<br /><br />For all other males, the feminists helpfully maintained their "consistent" "all men are rapists" schtick.Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85095268763300916112013-12-21T15:23:19.354-06:002013-12-21T15:23:19.354-06:00@Tarrou, right on!
As the President himself said,...@Tarrou, right on!<br /><br />As the President himself said, "Punch back twice as hard."Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36301143010248852682013-12-21T14:43:11.782-06:002013-12-21T14:43:11.782-06:00Word up. As long as rape allegations are encourage...Word up. As long as rape allegations are encouraged to be anonymous and consequence free, we should make as many as possible. Charge every last administrator and professor with sexual assault and see how fast they discover the need to protect the rights of the accused. Tarrouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06558820517153425253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77219040677803407932013-12-21T13:21:45.902-06:002013-12-21T13:21:45.902-06:00Even if they are filing false reports, it's a ...Even if they are filing false reports, it's a relatively minor act of civil disobedience... in the sense that the consequences are light or possibly even non-existent. And if such an act is intended to draw attention to an unfair and potentially dangerous bureaucratic policy, then your post is one (of likely many) indications that they have succeeded.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89830918412058724882013-12-21T13:05:26.720-06:002013-12-21T13:05:26.720-06:00Civilization has a propensity to induce the Peter ...Civilization has a propensity to induce the Peter Pan effect, which is a progressive phenomenon that produces Pajama Boys and Girls.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1047969831891990582013-12-21T12:29:37.415-06:002013-12-21T12:29:37.415-06:00This is a small college with some activist faculty...This is a small college with some activist faculty. It is not a good place for heterosexual men, which is why it is almost 60 percent female. Pretty soon it will be 75 percent female. mcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168402889404727565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19599816772968493302013-12-21T12:15:44.773-06:002013-12-21T12:15:44.773-06:00Think about the possibilities for blackmail.
This...Think about the possibilities for blackmail.<br /><br />This would be the basis for a good thriller plot.NotWhoIUsedtoBehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568355742926021406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56753701117810264342013-12-21T12:09:37.231-06:002013-12-21T12:09:37.231-06:00Here's another problem.
Occidental is an elit...Here's another problem.<br /><br />Occidental is an elite college. The President went there for a while.<br /><br />Fast forward twenty or thirty years. Some graduate of Occidental is running for important public office... and an anonymous rape accusation surfaces. The politician never knew about it, never faced it, and now his political career is over.<br /><br />Maybe the accusation was true, maybe it wasn't. There's no way to find out the truth because twenty years have passed and we don't even know who made the accusation. Maybe someone appears in the media, claiming to be the accuser. How do we know?<br /><br />See what a circus this becomes? It's not unlikely, either.NotWhoIUsedtoBehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568355742926021406noreply@blogger.com