tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3338343648165221241..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: Fantastic theater experiment: A male Hillary and a female Trump.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82525188071003699982017-03-08T23:52:42.423-06:002017-03-08T23:52:42.423-06:00I'll repeat what others have said -- this was ...I'll repeat what others have said -- this was a really interesting experiment. I don't know if it proves anything, but it's definitely food for thought.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284350648793830503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51424618293685470002017-03-08T23:44:26.634-06:002017-03-08T23:44:26.634-06:00One interesting thing I noticed: the male actor ac...One interesting thing I noticed: the male actor actually has a pleasant voice and good delivery, where Hillary has a grating voice and terrible delivery. So in the clip, he actually sounds like more of a robo-candidate than Hillary, because the stage direction is more obvious when he does it.<br /><br />This is an interesting clip, because it's one of Trump's favorite themes, so Hillary had to have a canned answer ready. It's a bad answer -- I said I <i>hoped</i> the TPP would be a gold standard, but I don't support it now. <br /><br />So what's the stage direction?<br />1) Smile when Trump attacks -- show he hasn't landed a blow.<br />2) Make a lame "We all know Donald lives in his own little world" joke. This is what a committee comes up with when they want to write a "there he goes again" line but doesn't know how.<br />3) Give the canned response<br />4) Talk about your book that's available in bookstores everywhere and try to move away from the subject.<br /><br />Hillary is an awkward speaker with a hoarse voice, so she sounds insincere and fake. The male actor is glib and has a good voice, so he sounds like a corporate PR guy explaining away some poison spill in the third world.<br /><br />Americans are the best TV watchers in the world! They hate corporate PR guys! Making Hillary a better speaker just highlights the other ways in which she was a terrible candidate.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284350648793830503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35385722705571470262017-03-08T19:15:13.742-06:002017-03-08T19:15:13.742-06:00I guess I'm pretty gender-blind. I thought the...I guess I'm pretty gender-blind. I thought the fake (male) Hillary was incredibly annoying - probably moreso than any of the other three. I don't remember that I liked the real (male) Trump that much better in the actual debates than Hillary, but he did get in some better one-liners and short, conclusive summaries. Perhaps I'm biased by the actual topics at play, where I had a clear preference and distrusted Hillary's take on them, as I'd come to loathe any obfuscator's take on them. But while I was concerned that this fake (female) Trump might have come across as "nagging", I think she just hit the points quickly and sharply and didn't drone on and on or fail to move off a point that wasn't working. This "male Trump" sounded like fucking Woody Allen, who as everyone knows is too neurotic to trust with anything. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40170429116403562932017-03-08T10:48:29.816-06:002017-03-08T10:48:29.816-06:00Did Gordon collapse and get dragged into a van at ...Did Gordon collapse and get dragged into a van at any time during the video? <br /><br />I actually love Ms. Trump. She's dogged and feisty! Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82279482855279338422017-03-08T09:44:30.682-06:002017-03-08T09:44:30.682-06:00Next, they should have her re-enact the infamous A...<i>Next, they should have her re-enact the infamous Access Hollywood video of The Donald.</i><br /><br />Good golly, Miss Molly, the lesbians would love that!gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07865564381083435425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39511562426538796232017-03-08T09:43:11.536-06:002017-03-08T09:43:11.536-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.gerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07865564381083435425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33122066632633202062017-03-08T09:04:32.907-06:002017-03-08T09:04:32.907-06:00One of the things I thought when I read about this...One of the things I thought when I read about this was that this might be the kind of theatre which really illuminated some bit of the human condition through a fair use of reality. Other performances which did that for me include <a href="http://charlievictorromeo.com/" rel="nofollow"><i>Charlie Victor Romeo</i></a> (a theatrical recreation of six airplane crashes using cockpit voice recorder transcripts as the dialogue, now a documentary you can watch on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TPUPVUK?ref_=imdbref_tt_wbr_aiv&tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_aiv-20" rel="nofollow">Amazon Video</a>) and the documentary <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoop_Dreams" rel="nofollow"><i>Hoop Dreaams</i></a> which follows two poor teens who dream to become professional basketball players through high school.<br /><br />(Wow, go read the bit on the Wikipedia page on why Hoop Dreams didn't even get a nomination for the Best Documentary Oscar.)<br /><br />I'm going to check out <i>CVR</i> on Amazon Video, I saw one of the <i>Collective: Unconscious</i> theatre presentations back in the early 2000s (pre-9/11/01).Sam's Hideouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17861031623526621055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24595779737201854072017-03-08T08:59:16.725-06:002017-03-08T08:59:16.725-06:00Madison man: "I agree that DJT is not a mascu...Madison man: "I agree that DJT is not a masculine speaker. The secret to his success, perhaps."<br /><br />In terms of mannerisms, Trump is the Anthony Newley of American politics.Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86794441815125012052017-03-08T08:42:40.390-06:002017-03-08T08:42:40.390-06:00The "Why am I not 50 points ahead" speec...The "Why am I not 50 points ahead" speech is unlikely to be effected much by a change of gender. Broderick Crawford could have done it just as well. tcrossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861315905142017219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-986709321768845162017-03-08T08:34:14.012-06:002017-03-08T08:34:14.012-06:00I'm willing to bet for a lot of people in the ...I'm willing to bet for a lot of people in the audience, it was the first time they actually listened to Trump--be Trump male or female.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88785438609839098282017-03-08T08:12:20.274-06:002017-03-08T08:12:20.274-06:00@Crazy Jane
More and more over the years, we have ...@Crazy Jane<br /><i>More and more over the years, we have been responding emotionally to candidates instead of listening to what they are saying.</i><br /><br />Is it more and more, or just how people and elections work? Triangle Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02287119175364820011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39238051310617616712017-03-08T08:10:52.792-06:002017-03-08T08:10:52.792-06:00I would love to see the part enacted where trump ... I would love to see the part enacted where trump "stalks" Hillary around the stage. Some women wen't berserk with how 'predatory' it felt to them and how they became actually afraid he would assault her on stage.<br /><br />I'm also wondering when feminists will blame the female trump's success on sexism or the patriarchy. pdughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09832284495239324375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44360016636450797962017-03-08T07:34:51.520-06:002017-03-08T07:34:51.520-06:00Notice how Trump went right for Hillary's jugu...Notice how Trump went right for Hillary's jugular, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan. tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86493385423396425472017-03-08T07:30:28.624-06:002017-03-08T07:30:28.624-06:00Personally, I think the movie character that best ...Personally, I think the movie character that best portrays Trump is Rubber Duck from Convoy.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83126031057573055792017-03-08T07:28:40.312-06:002017-03-08T07:28:40.312-06:00Nobody but a dictator can sell anything without li...Nobody but a dictator can sell anything without listening. That's why Obama naturally used the power of the state to sell health insurance. Trump is a salesman.<br /><br />I was watching Two Weeks Notice the other day, and Trump makes an appearance. I think the whole Hugh Grant character was sort of based on Trump, except he had a big W on his helicopters and planes, instead of a T.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25566231648019949362017-03-08T07:26:19.482-06:002017-03-08T07:26:19.482-06:00Bravo to NYU for an inspired idea. Why not re-ena...Bravo to NYU for an inspired idea. Why not re-enact Kennedy-Nixon, LBJ's "I will not seek, nor will I accept...," Reagan's "I'm paying for this microphone," Obama's "You're likable enough," the Candy Crowley interjection, Lloyd Bentsen v. Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin v. Biden? <br /><br />Seriously. More and more over the years, we have been responding emotionally to candidates instead of listening to what they are saying. It would be illuminating to look back, reverse the emotional roles and see what is there to be found. <br /><br />It might make us more discerning voters. It certainly couldn't hurt.MD Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00675532021705182467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36687181912637744592017-03-08T07:25:07.193-06:002017-03-08T07:25:07.193-06:00What Bad Lieutenant said about Guidowhatever, even...What Bad Lieutenant said about Guidowhatever, even his hand is too long to read. I read the comments scrolling up, so I can't always see who is making them, but as soon as a recognize that I am reading one of his nonsense posts, I skip on. Which is why, when I do comment on them, it is generally the last couple sentences.<br /><br />Which is a shame, because there is potential there. Lazlo has discipline, you can see it. He knows he is writing for an audience, his stuff is not just transcribed dream nonsense. Your posts are sort of like when you wake up from a dream, and it all makes sense for a minute, then all of the dream logic falls away and pretty soon, without the logical scaffolding, the whole dream fades away.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10631940033709952252017-03-08T07:24:10.119-06:002017-03-08T07:24:10.119-06:00--“If it feels good, smear them” has been its de f...--“If it feels good, smear them” has been its de facto motto.--<br /><br />Please share this article by using the link below. When you cut and paste an article, Taki's Magazine misses out on traffic, and our writers don't get paid for their work. Email editors@takimag.com to buy additional rights. http://takimag.com/article/splc_2_the_search_for_more_money_steve_sailer/print#ixzz4ajxeQT4kGuildofcannonballshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10352588747567045751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9640457199225562362017-03-08T07:22:30.850-06:002017-03-08T07:22:30.850-06:00Last thoughts:
The first thing people are surprise...Last thoughts:<br />The first thing people are surprised about upon first meeting The Donald is how he listens to them and responds to them with acceptance. That is the Venusian mode. AND IT TAKES EXTREME EFFORT TO DO.<br /><br />But Hillary demands obedience using mean threats and power to smash any hint of disagreement with her. (Ask her Secret Service guys.) That is the Martian mode. AND IT IS EASY TO DO.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47151395859470319062017-03-08T07:19:56.977-06:002017-03-08T07:19:56.977-06:00Holy crap! I just watched it. It makes it amazingl...Holy crap! I just watched it. It makes it amazingly clear that Trump is saying stuff that I had to studiously overlook his grating personality to hear.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41208191476361347752017-03-08T07:03:46.715-06:002017-03-08T07:03:46.715-06:00What a great idea! Thanks for making me aware of ...What a great idea! Thanks for making me aware of it.<br /><br />I agree that DJT is not a masculine speaker. The secret to his success, perhaps.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58301033710868001072017-03-08T06:56:31.994-06:002017-03-08T06:56:31.994-06:00For the commentors who suspect the motives of the ...For the commentors who suspect the motives of the people who did this or the ones who wrote it up, or the way they frame it, I would just remind you this is not from Daily Caller or Breitbart, the link is to NYU's website and they are publicizing a newsworthy project by some of their faculty. On that basis, I tend to take the motives and general explanation at face value, always with the usual skepticism about anecdotes versus statistically valid samples and all. But this is not merely click bait for Trumpers or anti-Clinton people.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13617687006180956861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76189019960480205402017-03-08T06:26:11.513-06:002017-03-08T06:26:11.513-06:00Guildofcannonballs said...
"I remember the ti...Guildofcannonballs said...<br />"I remember the times when Chuck threatened Michael K, and me."<br /><br />I've taken my best shots at all you people that I can possibly conceive of, and nobody notices it so much as they would a damn flea or damn ant.<br /><br />Well Guildy, you are always posting while drunk, or faking it, so nobody understands you, so you are ignored. Nobody can stop you doing your act, but that's why it's a problem. Admittedly, if you get mad enough, you can shed the litter of excess words and say something, but that's rare for you to do.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84279047248547735952017-03-08T06:21:14.695-06:002017-03-08T06:21:14.695-06:00Angel-Dyne said...
Chuck: On some other occasion, ...<br /> Angel-Dyne said...<br />Chuck: On some other occasion, I might copy that comment and email it to Althouse.<br /><br />Snitches get stitches, rat boy.<br />3/7/17, 6:49 PM<br /><br />Really! Chuck is always asking for proof of things he doesn't like. Well, when he wonders, "how can you call me a fag?" let him look to his own words as here.<br /><br /><br /> Angel-Dyne said...<br />ARM: They have. He's called Justin Trudeau.<br /><br />Brilliant.<br />3/7/17, 6:52 PM<br /><br />Best thing ARM has ever said.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48598824226846921722017-03-08T00:09:14.589-06:002017-03-08T00:09:14.589-06:00My wife thought the male Hillary should have been ...My wife thought the male Hillary should have been a stouter physical presence. She perceived him as (literally) a lightweight.Amadeus 48 https://www.blogger.com/profile/15907486643353591432noreply@blogger.com