tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3263643758371520725..comments2024-03-28T17:58:57.058-05:00Comments on Althouse: Elizabeth Warren explains that she listed herself as a minority lawprof "in the hopes that it might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63122029961926583982012-05-03T22:51:24.763-05:002012-05-03T22:51:24.763-05:00She has no concrete proof of her Cherokee heritage...She has no concrete proof of her Cherokee heritage, so for the purpose of a job application that is false information. Other people, like the situation of George O'Leary's brief hiring at Notre Dame, get fired when the false information on a job application is discovered.<br /><br />So is Harvard: <br />A) Going to terminate her employment with the College? <br />B) Give her a stern reprimand? Or <br />C) Force her to sit for a half hour in the comfy chair?<br /><br />I'm guessing C.Astrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03588265716990310130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77824759346507359182012-05-03T11:02:22.999-05:002012-05-03T11:02:22.999-05:00So she shows up to the luncheon, and people ask he...So she shows up to the luncheon, and people ask her "How are you a minority?"<br /><br />What was her plan then?<br /><br />I've gotta think that most people would find this offensive.Geoff Matthewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07335872605196107867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19556212052426834982012-05-03T10:24:34.015-05:002012-05-03T10:24:34.015-05:00"Affirmative action isn't about genetics!...<i>"Affirmative action isn't about genetics!"</i><br /><br />Of course it's about genetics! The argument, as I understand it, is: <i>Because</i> of your genetics, you've been discriminated against. Thus "we" must help you overcome that disadvantage. Unfortunately, "we" isn't "we" at all. It's one poor schmuck, who never did anything to you, who must give up the job so you can have it.<br /><br />How is that not about genetics?Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25441459302990269632012-05-03T09:11:16.692-05:002012-05-03T09:11:16.692-05:00Actually, Squaw Warren is livening up talk radio i...Actually, Squaw Warren is livening up talk radio in Mass, which I listen to some times,a *lot*.<br /><br />Not to mention putting AA in such a positive light.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64840054504647822792012-05-03T09:00:39.733-05:002012-05-03T09:00:39.733-05:00@EDH, thanks for the info. I feel for the Massach...@EDH, thanks for the info. I feel for the Massachusettsians exposed to this endless campaigning. How tedious!MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39449169077495639572012-05-03T08:55:30.847-05:002012-05-03T08:55:30.847-05:00I say "You go girl." This woman is spec...I say "You go girl." This woman is special. She ought to take advantage of every special thing she can, because it's in her self-interest.<br /><br />People opposed to affirmative action should be glad, since it demonstrates how ridiculous it is.<br /><br />"Affirmative action isn't about genetics!"<br /><br />Huh? Well, it isn't about pulling up poor qualified people with white skin (usually). Sometimes it's about giving preference to established blacks. So if it isn't about genetics, then what's it about? I'm curious what YOU view as the goal of affirmative action. Has it been successful?<br /><br />here is an interesting claim Blacks' success at UC now that affirmative action is gone:<br /><br />"On the contrary, more blacks graduated from the [UC] system after the ban [On affirmative action]" Thomas Sowell.Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43153853386319667152012-05-03T08:45:57.402-05:002012-05-03T08:45:57.402-05:00Jay,
Right, my fault.Jay,<br /><br />Right, my fault.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67916448930235010492012-05-03T08:41:07.509-05:002012-05-03T08:41:07.509-05:00"I agree with Warren on the issues but I am g...<i>"I agree with Warren on the issues but I am going to vote for Brown because of her law school application"<br /></i><br /><br />Which law school application?<br /><br />The issue here is her being listed as a minority as a <i>tenured</i> faculty member.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15702261236806375842012-05-03T08:38:25.967-05:002012-05-03T08:38:25.967-05:00Two things:
1) As has been noted upthread, Dear L...Two things:<br /><br />1) As has been noted upthread, Dear Lizzy is not yet, in fact, the Dem nominee. If she continues to flail and flounder, the D powers that be may grab an understudy and shove him out into the footlights, at the same time manning the crook to yank Lizzy offstage. You just never know.<br /><br />2) On Cape Cod, I'm seeing plenty of Brown yard signs and bumperstickers. Warren? Surprisingly few.<br /><br />Bottom line: unless Scott Brown really steps in it, I think he'll be re-elected comfortably.Stoutcathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05990951911078504078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28866875364701905462012-05-03T08:33:28.119-05:002012-05-03T08:33:28.119-05:00"What is wrong with basing your vote on wheth..."What is wrong with basing your vote on whether or not a candiate will lie in order to advance their career?"<br /><br />Nothing. It is not like Scott Brown is from the "troglodyte right" either. He is a moderate, Warren is an ideologue who benefits personally from the laws she supports that harm others.<br /><br />But the more you defend her, the better I like it.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35579049173436214102012-05-03T08:05:00.951-05:002012-05-03T08:05:00.951-05:00I understand it is a character issue. I am just n...I understand it is a character issue. I am just not thinking that this endgame: <br /><br />"I agree with Warren on the issues but I am going to vote for Brown because of her law school application"<br /><br />makes sense. Especially given the issues she and Brown are most different from one another on. People who agree with what she has been saying will vote for her still. And if you think it is only "Cambridge elites" that agree with what she has been saying, then you yourself might be the one who is cocooned.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78286813361145505582012-05-03T07:58:07.533-05:002012-05-03T07:58:07.533-05:00By the way, does anyone think it's acceptable ...<i>By the way, does anyone think it's acceptable to check the "Native American" box on an job/admissions application based on one distant ancestor? </i><br /><br />Well, yes.<br /><br />But where is the outrage on part of the true AA believers?<br /><br />Shouldn't they be upset and critical of this phony?<br /><br />Oh, she's running as a Democrat.<br /><br />Never mind.Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16491820761981209232012-05-03T07:57:58.730-05:002012-05-03T07:57:58.730-05:00a professor who'll assign a textbook she has a...a professor who'll assign a textbook she has a financial interest in is already telling you something about her ethical standards.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12133279828547003387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26827461046746972582012-05-03T07:55:35.877-05:002012-05-03T07:55:35.877-05:00harrogate said...
Sure, she's handling this &...<i>harrogate said...<br /><br />Sure, she's handling this "story" stupidly. But no matter how you spin it, 'twould would be far stupider still, to base one's vote on on election day, on this. I don't think in this case, people will prove to be that stupid.</i><br /><br />What is wrong with basing your vote on whether or not a candiate will lie in order to advance their career?Brian Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772632205321099314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11208794285840621772012-05-03T07:54:07.672-05:002012-05-03T07:54:07.672-05:00Massachusetts is full of parents who were faced wi...Massachusetts is full of parents who were faced with the tick box for anything but white which would give their child a leg up getting into the school of their choice.<br /><br />Democrats have no idea of the kind of resentment this box creates. Now Warren abused it and makes 400K as a "minority professor" at Harvard...<br /><br />Sure, it is no story at all, you go with that.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41537501594432379422012-05-03T07:50:45.830-05:002012-05-03T07:50:45.830-05:00Rehajm, Warren is at Harvard Law, not the pathetic...<i>Rehajm, Warren is at Harvard Law, not the pathetic Kennedy School</i><br /><br />Correct. Kennedy is under the Harvard umbrella, and I think it is relevant how much less guarded they are about publishing diversity practices. It's evidence of the point Althouse is making..<br /><br /><i>Why are the schools reticent about saying that they consider minority status a plus factor in hiring? Why aren't they out-and-proud about diversity? Law schools have fought for the proposition that diversity is a compelling state interest, justifying racial discrimination.</i>rehajmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554135440560051175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46931306052982165222012-05-03T07:44:57.768-05:002012-05-03T07:44:57.768-05:00Harrogate,
Elections have swung on such things in...Harrogate,<br /><br />Elections have swung on such things in the past. For example, Virginia Senate 2006. George Allen using the term "macaca" to describe a dark skinned Dem gotcha artist. All Jim Webb had to do was stand back and watch Allen flail about. The perception wasn't that Allen did anything wrong using "macaca," but that he had let the gotcha artist get under his skin, whereupon he acted like an <i>amateur</i>. He then compounded the mistake by kicking own goals. Allen had been crushing Webb in polling up to that point, in a bad year for Republicans. He ended up losing to Webb by a little over 9000 votes. This is a great example of how the public can be swayed by amateurish behavior in a candidate. <br /><br />Warren, like Liz Coakley before her, is showing she isn't ready for prime time. This is going to resonate with people beyond the Cambridge Cocoon. It isn't people being stupid, harrogate. It's shows their ability to sniff out bullshit in people, and judge them on their character. <br /><br />Will the Cambridge elite continue to support her? Sure. But, I imagine they're wondering what happened on the way to the coronation. You would have thought that they would have learned something from Coakley. Evidently not.Chef Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10981901090530845072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43785075142802289012012-05-03T07:09:56.046-05:002012-05-03T07:09:56.046-05:00Chef Mojo,
Sure, she's handling this "st...Chef Mojo,<br /><br />Sure, she's handling this "story" stupidly. But no matter how you spin it, 'twould would be far stupider still, to base one's vote on on election day, on this. I don't think in this case, people will prove to be that stupid.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67244796230501267632012-05-03T07:03:31.015-05:002012-05-03T07:03:31.015-05:00What's keeping it alive is Warren continuing t...What's keeping it alive is Warren continuing to speak. Going on about her ancestor's having "high cheekbones, like all of the Indians do" is just mind boggling. Really? She went there? Wanna toss out any more racial/genetic stereotypes there while you're at it, Liz? Or do they all just look the same to you?<br /><br />The great thing about this has been that Scott Brown hasn't done anything to advance this. Brown's staff must be grinning ear to ear over Warren kicking own goal after own goal. She's the one doing the heavy lifting on the stupid.<br /><br />One thing's for sure; Warren probably isn't going over well with the Southie demographic in Mass at this point. Witness Ray Flynn endorsing Scott Brown.Chef Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10981901090530845072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65589041211255723112012-05-03T07:01:53.068-05:002012-05-03T07:01:53.068-05:00The press is so anxious to sweep this under the ru...The press is so anxious to sweep this under the rug it isn't even funny now.<br /><br />That they seem to be buying this nonsense is almost insulting --- unless one realizes that journalists are a shade above paint eating 4 year olds in the intellectual scale of things.<br /><br /><b>Professor Jacobson at Legal Insurrection notes that the entries don't specify what minority, just that she's a minority.<br /><br />Therefore, the excuse of wanting to meet similar people for lunch is wanting...</b><br /><br />Also, anybody want to place bets on the racial makeup of her home area? Any bets on it having more than, say, 1% minority population?damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13385142458956789322012-05-03T06:36:59.212-05:002012-05-03T06:36:59.212-05:00One of the dumbest "stories" of 2012. Wh...One of the dumbest "stories" of 2012. Which is saying something. <br /><br /><br />Already we near the point where all that keeps it alive will be a few proud screechers.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56190337789252149252012-05-03T06:35:23.593-05:002012-05-03T06:35:23.593-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80022806398859136382012-05-03T06:27:36.640-05:002012-05-03T06:27:36.640-05:00Elizabeth Warren arrives on campus,
"Where&#...Elizabeth Warren arrives on campus,<br /><br />"Where're all my pretIndians at?"Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72868365644029241082012-05-03T05:53:22.944-05:002012-05-03T05:53:22.944-05:00As this woman *continues* to blather on and search...As this woman *continues* to blather on and search for explanations, it becomes increasingly clear that she did what she did to gain advantage.<br /><br />Whether she has legitimate claim to her native American roots is debatable; note the silly place this situation has arrived at.<br /><br />Racial set-asides are outcome-based nonsense and should be done away with.Toad Trendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03113877205525601966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39362476944539055542012-05-03T00:48:17.129-05:002012-05-03T00:48:17.129-05:00Alan R Templeton PhD says:
"Race is a real cu...Alan R Templeton PhD says:<br />"Race is a real cultural, political and economic concept in society, but it is not a biological concept, and that unfortunately is what many people wrongfully consider to be the essence of race in humans -- genetic differences," says Templeton. "Evolutionary history is the key to understanding race, and new molecular biology techniques offer so much on recent evolutionary history. I wanted to bring some objectivity to the topic. This very objective analysis shows the outcome is not even a close call: There's nothing even like a really distinct subdivision of humanity."<br /><br />Can't argue with a PhD. Or maybe you can, especially a climate scientist, but here's one man's opinion anyway.<br />Not sure what this means in terms of forensics according to CSI.wyo sishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00985513448269574373noreply@blogger.com