tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post315948750514243814..comments2024-03-28T15:35:21.498-05:00Comments on Althouse: Specialty license plates are government speech, so Texas can reject the Sons of Confederate Veterans design. Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33725386293713111412015-06-19T06:15:41.386-05:002015-06-19T06:15:41.386-05:00Texas has 350 specialty license plates?!? (Money g...Texas has 350 specialty license plates?!? (Money grubbing jackals!) That's a pretty strong argument for Alito's side and reveals this to be yet another issue where Scalia's careful originalism is put to the service of his personal preferences.tim maguirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717622436074043099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51099026266730318922015-06-19T02:35:29.403-05:002015-06-19T02:35:29.403-05:00Texas needs to charge high fees, for an obvious re...Texas needs to charge high fees, for an obvious reason. It also needs to be able to weed out problematic notions, for another obvious reason. Whatever else one can say about Texas (a state for which I do have a certain, definite fondness), one must, if honest, recognize the clear contradictions and ponder the tolerance of its citizens for a cognitive dissonance that too many there would not put up with in any other state other than their own.rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26824686322296195282015-06-19T00:57:31.034-05:002015-06-19T00:57:31.034-05:00But state governments aren't people!
Actually...But state governments aren't people!<br /><br />Actually, I think this is the correct decision. It's an official license from the state of Texas, so a fair minded person would interpret any motto as either speech by the government or speech condoned by the government. And the state of Texas was a member of the Confederacy, so allowing a Confederate battle flag would certainly raise questions about whether the state was speaking.<br /><br />As Citizens United pointed out, people don't lose their free speech rights because of the way they've chosen to organize themselves. I think this is a case where the State as a collective body is the one doing the speaking, so they should be able to control the message.Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02284350648793830503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-423838962342000302015-06-18T21:46:14.556-05:002015-06-18T21:46:14.556-05:00Although I'm a knee-jerk free speecher I'm...Although I'm a knee-jerk free speecher I'm also a knee-jerk federalist. On balance, I come down in this case on the side of the federal courts leaving the State of Texas alone to run it's license plate marketing program as it wants to. So long as the sons of the Confederacy or the sons of Red October can express their views on bumper stickers or lapel pins or yard signs, although not on their state-issued license plates, I think the First Amendment is alive and well.The Godfatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10575359417766667457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54888440105170975852015-06-18T20:58:20.858-05:002015-06-18T20:58:20.858-05:00"since when have Republicans not been sympath..."since when have Republicans not been sympathizers with the Confederate enemies of America who wanted to destroy this country? "<br /><br />I think ti was 1865, asshole.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66899860993231319342015-06-18T20:17:46.802-05:002015-06-18T20:17:46.802-05:00Of Course, the states are in it for the money !
G...Of Course, the states are in it for the money !<br /><br />Good God !<br /><br />I had my sail number on my license plate for years. I still have the plate. Maybe I should change back even though I no longer have the boat. At least I can remember the number.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36598788059391938852015-06-18T18:47:54.785-05:002015-06-18T18:47:54.785-05:00Alternative headline:
Black Justice Only Conserva...Alternative headline:<br /><br /><i>Black Justice Only Conservative Who Agrees that Government Does Not Have to Endorse His Own Persecution</i><br /><br />What is wrong with the dissenters? It would have been great to see them torture themselves and the bounds of working consciousness by approving a petitioner's request to a license plate with a burning cross on it. Or a picture of John Wilkes Booth brandishing weapons and shouting Latin slogans. But then, since when have Republicans not been sympathizers with the Confederate enemies of America who wanted to destroy this country? <br /><br />Oh, that's right. Since before about 1980 or so. Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Togetherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059991118123693141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67633558757552178522015-06-18T16:51:58.975-05:002015-06-18T16:51:58.975-05:00Richard, "but corporations AREN'T PEOPLE!...Richard, "but corporations AREN'T PEOPLE!!!"<br /><br />Sorry, I had to say it. It is illegal in some cities to say Citizens United without the above intelligent and deep response. I have yet to find someone who says the above and can also explain even the basic facts of the case, let alone legal question decided.<br /><br />Kidding aside, I am surprised at how the left has thrown the first amendment out the window. Especially from many of these baby boomers who fought so angrily against the government long ago. I think they believe that since their generation is mostly in power now, they can tame the beast they fought so hard against. They know they have the traditional free speech outlets already in their pocket, and therefore, have no fear of silencing the rest.Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545290546344200062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49157349823421653682015-06-18T16:48:07.571-05:002015-06-18T16:48:07.571-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545290546344200062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82487917116180157312015-06-18T16:38:45.594-05:002015-06-18T16:38:45.594-05:00I recall when NC put a motto on their license plat...I recall when NC put a motto on their license plates reading "First in Freedom" and death penalty opponents started taping over it in protest. That blocking of a government motto on plates was ruled to be political speech.<br /><br />NC changed the motto on the plates to "First in Flight" and thus it remains today.<br /><br />That said, as a born & Raised North Carolinian who got to Texas as soon as I could, the proliferation of vanity plates here in TX is amazing.<br /><br />Of more interest to me personally, however, is that my local police have automatic plate readers that alert them to warrants, unpaid citations, and even lack of insurance, causing me to be pulled over once while driving a rental car (self-insured by the company) without any probable cause of a violation other than the computer not recognizing a rental car from its plate number.<br /><br />What are the police doing with their vast new database of plate sitings (location, date, time)?mikeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875483485290838207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32306348906294760012015-06-18T16:23:28.440-05:002015-06-18T16:23:28.440-05:00What's interesting about the case is not the p...What's interesting about the case is not the particular application of First Amendment doctrine to the odd-ball fact pattern, but instead its significance as a marker of the continuing divisions in the Court over government regulation of speech -- the bull's eye case being Citizens United. At the 2d Circuit Judicial Conference held last week, for example, Justice Ginsburg participated as she does every year. When asked to name the one case decided by the Court during her tenure that she thinks must be overruled by a future Court, she named Citizens United. <br /><br />It's striking, to me anyway, how so many lefty-leaning people are comfortable with state regulation of speech in so many different contexts, this case providing yet another (not very important) one. Citizens United dealt with regulation of political speech during an election campaign -- and it's harder to get closer to the absolute center of First Amendment concern than that. Yet so many are distressed about limitations on the gov't's regulatory powers in that context, and are apoplectic that corporations enjoy First Amendment freedoms in that (or any) context. I think part of the problem is that lefties cannot imagine that speech they regard as important -- speech about the climate by the Sierra Club, say, or the speech criminalized in Abrams v. US and Dennis v. US -- could be the subject of any reasonable controversy today. In part it's also the bottomless confidence that lefties have in the beneficence of gov't regulation. But there's no doubt that what's in the background of a case like this is the continuing dispute about Citizens United. The only question is for how long it will stay only in the background. As this case suggests, Citizens United is just one vote away from being overruled.Richard Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735773524374061429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56619425443387677272015-06-18T13:03:18.278-05:002015-06-18T13:03:18.278-05:00Bad decision. Root cause is bad legislation allow...Bad decision. Root cause is bad legislation allowing State Govt to get into bumper sticker business.Hammond X. Gritzkofehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13521760738576238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71041530443153221822015-06-18T13:01:10.804-05:002015-06-18T13:01:10.804-05:00Clearly Texas is not in it for the money, as the p...Clearly Texas is not in it for the money, as the program has to be subsidized, which is why there are minimums on getting a new plate approved. Texas is in it for the vanity. That's the government purpose.Left Bank of the Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04494310302328322830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52737289503497088622015-06-18T12:59:13.728-05:002015-06-18T12:59:13.728-05:00CWJ is right. The government made a mess. It isn...CWJ is right. The government made a mess. It isn't desirable to allow anything on the Texas plate - but it shouldn't be allowed to pick and chose once it opens the door. It put itself in this position. It is too bad the court bailed the state out at the cost of free speech.<br /><br />The court should have just said to Texas, "if you don't like it, put a disclaimer at the bottom of every plate saying you don't endorse the contents of this message."Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545290546344200062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65437362956572566622015-06-18T12:55:19.555-05:002015-06-18T12:55:19.555-05:00I am going to petition Texas for a "Sons of G...I am going to petition Texas for a "Sons of Gore" or "Sons of Romney" license plate; there is nothing like telling the world your ancestors were losers. Brenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16545290546344200062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47363716777430380852015-06-18T12:46:17.290-05:002015-06-18T12:46:17.290-05:00Loser's license plate, like "Dixie" ...<br />Loser's license plate, like "Dixie" is a loser's song.furious_ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11239113391394176670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71092587193705934452015-06-18T12:42:12.650-05:002015-06-18T12:42:12.650-05:00Clarence Thomas voted down the racists hiding behi...Clarence Thomas voted down the racists hiding behind. Confederate Battle Flags. So he is not a Uncle Tom yet.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28588099559367744182015-06-18T12:41:50.188-05:002015-06-18T12:41:50.188-05:00Since 2008, I think it's safe to say "Rat...Since 2008, I think it's safe to say "Rather be Golfing" is government policy.<br /><br />Benghazi - "Rather be Golfing"<br />Fast and Furious - "Rather be Golfing"<br />ISIS - "Rather be Golfing"<br /><br />And look at the corporate and banking systems, immigration, foreign policy! Again, it's hard to argue that 'supporting out-of-state competitors' isn't government policy.<br /><br />Accidentally and hilariously proves the majority's case.Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614995710278149328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76704302827728080772015-06-18T12:27:12.156-05:002015-06-18T12:27:12.156-05:00Apparently, you can buy government speech in Texas...Apparently, you can buy government speech in Texas for $8,000 per annum. Not all speech mind you, but speech is definitely for sale. Sounds more like a lobbyist than a representative state government to me.<br /><br />The majority worked hard to save the state from an embarrassing situation of its own making, while the dissent actually made some good points. Funny how often when push comes to shove the various arms of government tend to side with each other against the common folk.<br /><br />Look, the solution has always been for government to stay out of these situations, not hope that some judge or collection of same will find the sophistry necessary to bail them out.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68298719084692094312015-06-18T12:10:42.969-05:002015-06-18T12:10:42.969-05:00Too many tattoos, specialty plates, and bumper sti...Too many tattoos, specialty plates, and bumper stickers.mcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168402889404727565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65566117743523881272015-06-18T11:37:47.913-05:002015-06-18T11:37:47.913-05:00Perhaps Texas should've said that all sons of ...Perhaps Texas should've said that all sons of Confederate Veterans can have the plates. How many of them are there? It doesn't say "grandsons" or "great grandsons", it says "sons." There can't be many true sons of Confederate veterans still alive.Larry Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07005320430740976182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10002952014977287632015-06-18T11:30:16.131-05:002015-06-18T11:30:16.131-05:00What a despicable and prejudiced ruling. We are no...What a despicable and prejudiced ruling. We are not headed in a good direction on free speech. I thought we were strong enough to put up with ignorant speech. I guess not.Lylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09082051710068390275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36039921278884955582015-06-18T11:24:39.802-05:002015-06-18T11:24:39.802-05:00Sounds like government CAN control the message aft...Sounds like government CAN control the message after all, and they can still call it "free speech." Who knew?Swifty Quickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748423525653804001noreply@blogger.com