tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post3002356276002125380..comments2024-03-29T04:47:37.037-05:00Comments on Althouse: Driving all over the place in a bus to tell people to stop global warming.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger115125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51713450322419087762007-04-25T08:24:00.000-05:002007-04-25T08:24:00.000-05:00Wasn't the Crow-David Entity one of those planet-d...Wasn't the Crow-David Entity one of those planet-destroying alien hive mind things Capt Kirk and Mr Spock blew up in Star Trek? Or did they just sleep with its green-skinned queen/leader and mind-meld with its computer?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05017917923425295830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57795496562266821002007-04-24T09:48:00.000-05:002007-04-24T09:48:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.SippicanCottagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14940797380578921776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34268032704943531982007-04-24T07:25:00.000-05:002007-04-24T07:25:00.000-05:00Sippican's revamped Cheryl Crow song lyrics includ...Sippican's revamped Cheryl Crow song lyrics included this :<BR/><BR/>"The bartender has plans for the want ads"<BR/><BR/>[I wonder if he had the chili for lunch?] <BR/><BR/>Sipp - you are a frigging genius. I am stil laughing at this line.I'm Full of Souphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241724007440718575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26511205512675172402007-04-24T04:03:00.000-05:002007-04-24T04:03:00.000-05:00revenant,The evidence is in; it's (c).revenant,<BR/>The evidence is in; it's (c).Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80317935909436020192007-04-24T04:00:00.000-05:002007-04-24T04:00:00.000-05:00seven machos wrote:It's not like people on the rig...<I>seven machos wrote:<BR/>It's not like people on the right are automatically bad or stupid.</I><BR/><BR/>Hey, I don't think you're bad.Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76947095293626903492007-04-24T03:52:00.000-05:002007-04-24T03:52:00.000-05:00Mike,Where I live, plumbers don't clear out septic...Mike,<BR/><BR/>Where I live, plumbers don't clear out septic tanks. There are people who specialize in cleaning septic tanks, and unfortunately, they tend to smell a bit like their work environment.Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1873065649731510412007-04-24T01:24:00.000-05:002007-04-24T01:24:00.000-05:00I keep a soft spot for Rosie O'Donnell in my heart...I keep a soft spot for Rosie O'Donnell in my heart, despite her many transgressions, because of days like today, when after hearing of Crow's toilet paper rationing plan, exclaimed, "Have you SEEN my ass??"Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41122681742892356532007-04-23T23:50:00.000-05:002007-04-23T23:50:00.000-05:00Does making the right noises and couching it all i...<I>Does making the right noises and couching it all in words that oooooze and dripp feelie-ness actually fool people?</I><BR/><BR/>Well it fooled the local lefties, but then what doesn't?Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83031097788797237502007-04-23T23:26:00.000-05:002007-04-23T23:26:00.000-05:00Way to go, Cyrus. Sweet analogy!Way to go, Cyrus. Sweet analogy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59355339371138661262007-04-23T23:14:00.000-05:002007-04-23T23:14:00.000-05:00My Dad's a plumber. It never occurred to me that t...<I> My Dad's a plumber. It never occurred to me that there is something wrong with him.</I><BR/><BR/>Mine used to work as a city utility worker for the sewage and water system. He would get calls day and night (first man I knew who had two beepers – the other for when he was a volunteer fire fighter) for people who would call him out to their homes when there was a problem with their water and sewage system.<BR/><BR/>I never thought there was anything wrong with him either. Neither did any of the people he helped judging by the shoebox of thank you notes he kept.Thorley Winstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17262423151559851671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81953243590096519442007-04-23T22:23:00.000-05:002007-04-23T22:23:00.000-05:00There's a rather famous Science Fiction short stor...There's a rather famous Science Fiction short story (and since I suck at names I don't remember who wrote it) where the "septic tank guy" on a space habitat goes on strike because he's treated like sh*t and no one will go do his job and it gets to be a real crisis so a visitor, who had been highly regarded, goes and turns a wheel or flips a switch, averting disaster.<BR/><BR/>Afterward he's not a hero, in fact, they sort of funnel him out to his ship, forcing him to leave without even physically seeing any of the other inhabitants.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45251594408105482202007-04-23T22:06:00.000-05:002007-04-23T22:06:00.000-05:00I imagine that the David-Crow version of events is...<I>I imagine that the David-Crow version of events is self-serving.</I><BR/><BR/>I imagine the same thing.<BR/><BR/><I> ... he may be brilliant at cleaning your septic tank, but you don't really want him spending a lot of time hanging around your house with you.</I><BR/><BR/>My Dad's a plumber. It never occurred to me that there is something wrong with him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70066718288038571102007-04-23T21:08:00.000-05:002007-04-23T21:08:00.000-05:00"He's a bit like the guy who cleans out your septi..."He's a bit like the guy who cleans out your septic tank; you know you need him to help you out now and then, and he may be brilliant at cleaning your septic tank, but you don't really want him spending a lot of time hanging around your house with you."<BR/><BR/>Absolutely. Why in the world would you want some blue collar guy hanging around your house? He probably drives a truck! Maybe did a tour in the army. Voted for Bushitler. Plus he does stuff you absolutely refuse to do because your better than him. Two Americas indeed.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01892213227811281098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6832452989344378042007-04-23T20:55:00.000-05:002007-04-23T20:55:00.000-05:00Touched, grabbed, whatever. He was leaving, the "...Touched, grabbed, whatever. He was leaving, the "touch" was meant to prevent that. It was *meant* to force him to continue to listen.<BR/><BR/>I think Miss Manners would be appalled.<BR/><BR/>But manners don't matter because "who wouldn't want to be touched by Sheryl Crow?"<BR/><BR/>Oh, and the implication that they *became* heartbroken that *Rove* wasn't more receptive to their lecture?<BR/><BR/>Are we supposed to believe they didn't arrive with iron-clad pre-conceptions about the evil that Bush is doing to the environment? (Never mind the research funds, public acceptance of the "truth", and his modest and highly energy and water efficient Crawford ranch home?)<BR/><BR/>Does making the right noises and couching it all in words that oooooze and dripp feelie-ness actually fool people?Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29563840869128591852007-04-23T19:54:00.000-05:002007-04-23T19:54:00.000-05:00Cyrus -- So far, we have from you a view that Clar...Cyrus -- So far, we have from you a view that Clarence Thomas does not listen at oral argument and that Karl Rove is a pariah who lies about encounters with horse-faced C-list singers.<BR/><BR/>But it just happens to be this way. Right? It's not like people on the right are automatically bad or stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68492373691950787162007-04-23T19:34:00.000-05:002007-04-23T19:34:00.000-05:00And then he excused himself and Crow grabs his arm...<I>And then he excused himself and Crow grabs his arm?</I><BR/><BR/>Now, now, Synova. You don't want to get in trouble with Cyrus, do you? Everyone knows that the Sheryl version -- "touched" -- is obviously true, and the third-party account -- "grabbed" -- is obviously false. This touched/grabbed distinction is of course vitally important, and completely undermines your entire argument. Er, or something.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74806049828804369082007-04-23T18:58:00.000-05:002007-04-23T18:58:00.000-05:00I think it sounds as though Rove *was* polite. He...I think it sounds as though Rove *was* polite. He spoke to them, pointed out that the US spends more on global warming research (and those of us deniers are rather peeved that the administration has gone over to the "dark side" and has officially accepted that global warming is caused by humans) so what did they *want*?<BR/><BR/>And then he excused himself and Crow grabs his arm?<BR/><BR/>Who is being rude here? <BR/><BR/>There are no-win situations and talking to crusaders is one of them. Hilliary could only take one visit from Mother Sheehan and they are at least *remotely* on the same side. What did these two expect from *Rove* for Pete's sake?<BR/><BR/>Yeah, probably shirt rending...Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-259927997882136382007-04-23T18:51:00.000-05:002007-04-23T18:51:00.000-05:00I love the way Sheryl is "unphased." This woman is...<I>I love the way Sheryl is "unphased." This woman is strong. She can deal with a man not yielding to her sexual power.</I><BR/><BR/>She, however, doesn't own a dictionary or a word processor with spell correction.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70922444818353661302007-04-23T18:32:00.000-05:002007-04-23T18:32:00.000-05:00Mike, Well, it certainly makes me wonder about wha...Mike, <BR/><BR/>Well, it certainly makes me wonder about what the two of them could have been thinking. Why would they assume that Karl Rove would be receptive to global warming arguments at a social gathering? And even if they thought the gathering was a good opportunity to discuss global warming, why on earth would they pick Rove? They showed remarkably poor judgment in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>My impression of Rove is that even Republicans aren't that fond of him. He's a bit like the guy who cleans out your septic tank; you know you need him to help you out now and then, and he may be brilliant at cleaning your septic tank, but you don't really want him spending a lot of time hanging around your house with you. <BR/><BR/>Mike, in to answer your question, I've only read the David-Crow version of the encounter so far, and I only read it because Ann linked to it. Consequently I'll make the same point in this case that I made about Clarence Thomas--I imagine that the David-Crow version of events is self-serving.Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43186042301475079022007-04-23T17:56:00.000-05:002007-04-23T17:56:00.000-05:00Cyrus,You're right, my bad. I assumed that you to...Cyrus,<BR/><BR/>You're right, my bad. I assumed that you took her story at face value, but that assumption is unwarranted.<BR/><BR/>So, we can agree that it is naive to accept Crow-David's version of the encounter, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39832869795061123472007-04-23T17:39:00.000-05:002007-04-23T17:39:00.000-05:00Here's another amusingly telling quote from Laurie...Here's another amusingly telling quote from Laurie David:<BR/><BR/><I>"I honestly thought that I was going to change his mind, like, right there and then," Ms. David said Sunday</I><BR/><BR/>Ego much?<BR/><BR/>See, this is exactly the kind of behavior people refer to when they say that global warming alarmism is a religion. The fundamentalists and evangelicals I grew up around had the exact same attitude -- that if you're not of their faith it can only be because you haven't heard The Good News from one of the faithful yet.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-121581450412895532007-04-23T17:27:00.000-05:002007-04-23T17:27:00.000-05:00Crow and David have now joined the neo-Puritan Lef...Crow and David have now joined the neo-Puritan Left, where excessive religiosity has been supplanted by doctrinaire eco-utopianism. <BR/><BR/>This dynamic has been played out several times in America's past, leading to the Salem witch trials of 1692, the Red Scare of 1919, McCarthy's communist hunt in the 1950s, and the Watergate hysteria of 1973.<BR/><BR/>In 'A History of the American People', Paul Johnson called this <I>"the propensity of the American people to be convulsed by spasms of self-righteous rage against enemies, real or imaginary, of their society and way of living."</I>KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70680917237787871092007-04-23T17:26:00.000-05:002007-04-23T17:26:00.000-05:00Revenant said...Cyrus, I'm sure you think you made...<I> Revenant said...<BR/>Cyrus, I'm sure you think you made an important point, but for the life of me I can't imagine what it was.</I><BR/><BR/>I guess I shouldn't be surprised that my point went over your head. Here it is again:<BR/><BR/><B>Please try to be accurate if you're hoping to make a point that depends on facts. Thank you.</B><BR/><BR/>Revenant, no offense, but your posts reliably seem to have factual errors. You prove that again by incorrectly summarizing my posts about Clarence Thomas. Why do you do this? You leave me little choice but to assume that you are<BR/>(a) sloppy about facts, because you don't see them as relevant;<BR/>(b) intentionally distorting facts to bolster your argument and to tweak those you regard as liberals; or<BR/>(c) just plain dumb.Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7841060980598745082007-04-23T17:16:00.000-05:002007-04-23T17:16:00.000-05:00Mike,For the life of me, I don't understand why so...Mike,<BR/><BR/>For the life of me, I don't understand why some of you have so much trouble reading. Where did I say I believe Crow's version of events?<BR/><BR/>Do you and revenant have some sort of competition going where you see how many posts you can misread and/or misunderstand? I'm assuming the two of you do this intentionally since it is virtually impossible to believe that the two of you get things consistently wrong just by pure coincidence.<BR/><BR/>Get back to me when you get a clue.Cyrus Pinkertonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09849126166866751019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84500746103769953802007-04-23T16:46:00.001-05:002007-04-23T16:46:00.001-05:00I don't like strangers touching me, especially whe...I don't like strangers touching me, especially when it interferes with my movement. I instantly resent the person who does that, as well as the person who pops into my conversation from nowhere interrupting it with something so important that just mustn't wait another moment. <BR/><BR/>But, I've forfeited the right to ask, "Haven't your parents taught you anything?" Because some parents haven't and some people lack parents, nor to ask, "Were you raised in a barn?" Because some people actually were. <BR/><BR/>A friend gave me a Sheryl Crow album for a birthday and I'm ashamed to admit I've never listened to it. Have no idea what's on it. It might actually be good. It's like a Chia Pet® that never gets used. Might should recycle.<BR/><BR/>I read yesterday that John Kerry was instrumental in starting Earth Day. That was news to me. I thought <I>we</I> invented that back in grade school, and I have no recollection of Kerry's leadership. I lost patience with the conversation on resource conservation about a decade later when my mileage-conscious mid-size coupe was completely surrounded by a wolf pack of unnecessarily oversized SUVs and full size trucks with no other ordinary sized car in sight. Homes with lavish lawns and deluge-style bathroom shower heads appeared simultaneously with public service announcements on water conservation. I'm tired of the lecture on global warming, coming as it does from high-energy using prince and princesses and delivered as it is to a person whom already conserves more energy than the lecturer imagines. My friends are astounded when I tell them I filled my tank when I moved 6 months ago and I'm just now coming up on the 1/4 full mark. <BR/><BR/>However, still interested in hearing about the clever things you've done to recycle, conserve, collect, extract, exploit, energy.Chip Ahoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597726289890879627noreply@blogger.com