tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2671784153719872705..comments2024-03-28T07:51:42.625-05:00Comments on Althouse: Rachel Maddow made a "scoop" out of her knowledge of the existence of fake documents that are supposedly being shopped around. Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44411568802502517702017-07-09T17:44:10.178-05:002017-07-09T17:44:10.178-05:00Tommy Duncan: It may require a fairly talented IT ...Tommy Duncan: <i>It may require a fairly talented IT nerd...</i><br /><br />It manifestly does not.<br /><br />As a professional software developer, this is what galls me about all of this. John Podesta's emails weren't hacked by Russian state-sponsored intelligence agency ninja hackers. He fell for a simple-minded phishing attack script kiddies everywhere use. There's no evidence Russian state-sponsored intelligence agency ninja hackers tampered with the 2016 election; there's one private digital security firm, CrowdStrike (full disclosure: I was the subject of recruitment efforts by CrowdStrike) who identified some IP addresses as belonging to some known hacker groups, but then went on to nickname those groups in a non-standard way and so as to attach suggestions of known Russian affiliation, and by extension, with state support (for which, again, there is no evidence).<br /><br />Some government agencies, for reasons known only to themselves, also assert without offering evidence that Wikileaks is a Russian intelligence front, and of course there's an overlapping set of agencies/pundits who claim, without offering evidence, that Edward Snowden is a Russian agent.<br /><br />Basically, the criterion for "Russian agent" seems to be "critical of the status quo in US international relations and especially its intelligence apparatus." Sorry, but it takes quite a bit more than that to add up to "state-sponsored hacker subverting American democracy," especially when so much of the subversion of American democracy observably comes from within, whether or not you have any hacking skills with which to observe it.Paul Snivelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08176093036690144698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82147237546042926792017-07-08T16:55:17.598-05:002017-07-08T16:55:17.598-05:00So if you're discovered reporting fake news ab...So if you're discovered reporting fake news about the President what is the absolute best set of circumstances you wish existed to defend yourself? <br /><br />What a coincidence!Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09159859859522615418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25312112761250042482017-07-08T16:51:43.706-05:002017-07-08T16:51:43.706-05:00Yancey Ward at 12:29 nailed it--if anyone missed i...Yancey Ward at 12:29 nailed it--if anyone missed it. That is exactly what happened.Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277966379512526469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50047460165459471572017-07-08T16:43:22.417-05:002017-07-08T16:43:22.417-05:00Quayle at 8:14 has the essential point. Rachel ...Quayle at 8:14 has the essential point. Rachel Maddow is warning like minded journalists: "Everytime you get a leaked document or a leak from an unnamed source, you should assume that it might be a fake designed to discredit you, and you should check it carefully before publishing, even if you think the leak is 'too good to check'." But isn't it amazing that journalists need to be reminded of this. ANd is there a better incentive for journalists to check and double check the veracity of their sources than to have a lot of sources of fake information?hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683425888380610689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83296880772574938712017-07-08T14:58:30.641-05:002017-07-08T14:58:30.641-05:00SOMEONE sent Maddow those phony documents. SOMEONE...SOMEONE sent Maddow those phony documents. SOMEONE! Could it have been Trump himself? Trump IS someone. Lawyers in Michigan have won cases based on this very premise.Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277966379512526469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89337367705900096902017-07-08T14:51:13.499-05:002017-07-08T14:51:13.499-05:00Notice all the polls cited that favored Hillary? T...<i>Notice all the polls cited that favored Hillary? The polls are shit.</i><br /><br />No. No. No. According to our own political genius, Chuck, the polls were SPOT ON. Spot on, I tell you. Never in the history of the world were polls SO accurate. You can watch that Maddow video and see how right Chuck was. Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277966379512526469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2976705631227363572017-07-08T13:45:50.398-05:002017-07-08T13:45:50.398-05:00Yes, Grackle, that video based on Maddow's pre...Yes, Grackle, that video based on Maddow's pre-election smirking <i>never</i> gets old. I don't think I could ever show my face again after a performance like that. To be forever on YouTube as a clueless moron has to hurt badly.Yancey Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16427042729449397357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85107313697374654562017-07-08T13:33:10.830-05:002017-07-08T13:33:10.830-05:00I viewed the Euphoria to despair video. Deeply sat...I viewed the <a title="Euphoria to despair" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw" rel="nofollow">Euphoria to despair</a> video. Deeply satisfying. Notice all the polls cited that favored Hillary? The polls are shit. <br /><br />The pollsters tell the MSM what the MSM wants to hear. This strategy gets the pollsters face-time on MSM outlets and their polling companies cited in numerous news shows. The PR is worth millions in free advertising.gracklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138997480493469444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48401355126175035342017-07-08T12:45:43.807-05:002017-07-08T12:45:43.807-05:00Can Maddow abort the baby and have her, too? I gu...Can Maddow abort the baby and have her, too? I guess it depends on her followers.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19105252929524692332017-07-08T12:29:19.028-05:002017-07-08T12:29:19.028-05:00Maddow never expected anyone else to figure out th...Maddow never expected anyone <i>else</i> to figure out that the documents were based on the Reality Winner material.<br /><br />I can almost guarantee you this is what happened: <br /><br />Someone took the <i>Intercept</i> story and supporting material and decided he/she would create a document that would support the Russian Collusion story, and it wasn't done to undermine the credibility of MSNBC, but was done for the same reason many of the false stories being leaked were- to undermine Trump. The problem is that someone at MSNBC at least had the brains to check to see if they weren't a hoax based on the recently published Winner documents and discovered they were. At that point, you don't have to do anymore verification- you <i>know</i> the documents are bogus and you can't use them as such without damaging your own reputation. <br /><br />That is why there was the 1 month gap between receipt and revelation- it was only after CNN fired the journalists that someone at MSNBC, likely Maddow herself, decided there was another way to use the material- use it to claim Trump was undermining the investigation by leaking false information. However, this doesn't work very well if you also reveal the real reason you knew it was false in the first place since there would be no way to tie it to Trump himself. So Maddow decided to finesse the issue by omitting that little detail because she thought no one would bother checking it that way since she was already admitting it was fake. She was wrong, and got caught almost immediately.Yancey Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16427042729449397357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46090844587286765482017-07-08T12:14:34.918-05:002017-07-08T12:14:34.918-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Haroldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15591381250646784181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78350959358226010122017-07-08T12:02:38.927-05:002017-07-08T12:02:38.927-05:00However, she is, at most, a Democratic loyalist......<i>However, she is, at most, a Democratic loyalist...not the same thing at all as a "radical leftwing" anything.</i><br /><br />Remember..Comrade Marvin considers Pol Pot to be a moderate.Gahriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795449308207016641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91005081381015619522017-07-08T11:56:17.007-05:002017-07-08T11:56:17.007-05:00William: "This is a preemptive strike on her ...William: "This is a preemptive strike on her part. If--or rather when--she gets caught releasing a phony story, the phony story willl be further proof of the deviousness and perfidy of the Trumpistas......."<br /><br />This is a common tactic on the left after their BS has been exposed.<br /><br />Think of Matt Damon's anti fracking movie "Gasland" after inconvenient facts emerged: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/336636/fracking-fiction-jillian-kay-melchior<br /><br />Also the attempted whitewash of the CNN "tailwind" lie in "The Newsroom".<br /><br />Not to mention the whitewash by Hollywood for Rathergate.<br /><br />It has always been thus. The lefties lie their heads off, get exposed and turn themselves into victims.Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36671821336815730472017-07-08T11:35:42.465-05:002017-07-08T11:35:42.465-05:00The ever popular Maddow election night transformat...The ever popular Maddow election night transformation. Long version, eleven minutes<br /><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut0TaegQ-kw" rel="nofollow">Euphoria to despair</a> <br />FullMoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541560904252155570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89436504149098096232017-07-08T11:35:34.278-05:002017-07-08T11:35:34.278-05:00Acknowledgment of fake documents, fake news, fake ...Acknowledgment of fake documents, fake news, fake science, fake religion/morality, ...<br /><br />Baby steps.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91498751042955443522017-07-08T11:32:55.711-05:002017-07-08T11:32:55.711-05:00And this is how Lindsey Graham responded to this:
...And this is how Lindsey Graham responded to this:<br /><br /><i> Graham told CNN Sunday that Comey did not tell any members of Congress that he believed the email was fake.<br /><br />“He talked to members of the Senate and House intel committee that he was sitting on emails that the Russians had between the Democratic Party and the Department of Justice that were highly explosive,” Graham said. “He never once told a member of the House or the Senate that he thought the email was fake.”<br /><br />Graham said that CNN’s report is a “huge deal” and said that Comey “needs to be held accountable.”</i><br /><br />So weird.MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72831559527538934382017-07-08T11:31:07.792-05:002017-07-08T11:31:07.792-05:00This article talks more about the weird Loretta Ly...This article talks more about the weird Loretta Lynch memo<br /><br />http://nypost.com/2017/07/06/new-holes-in-loretta-lynchs-story-on-the-hillary-probe/<br /><br /><i> The Senate Judiciary Committee, which has launched a bipartisan investigation into Lynch for possible obstruction of justice, recently learned of the existence of a document indicating Lynch assured the political director of Clinton’s campaign she wouldn’t let FBI agents “go too far” in probing the former secretary of state....<br /><br />The committee, however, now knows of a document obtained by the FBI reportedly showing a Democratic operative’s claim that Lynch had privately assured Renteria that the Justice Department “would not push too deeply” into the investigation of Clinton’s private email server, which contained top secret information from the State Department.<br /><br />And it will press her to explain the discrepancy — along with why she reportedly asked former FBI Director James Comey to leave her office when he confronted her with the document.</i><br /><br />But earlier a similar memo was covered thusly:<br />http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/politics/james-comey-fbi-investigation-fake-russian-intelligence/index.html<br /><br /><i> <br />Then-FBI Director James Comey knew that a critical piece of information relating to the investigation into Hillary Clinton's email was fake -- created by Russian intelligence -- but he feared that if it became public it would undermine the probe and the Justice Department itself, according to multiple officials with knowledge of the process......<br /><br />The Russian intelligence at issue purported to show that then-Attorney General Lynch had been compromised in the Clinton investigation. The intelligence described emails between then-Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and a political operative suggesting that Lynch would make the FBI investigation of Clinton go away.<br />In classified sessions with members of Congress several months ago, Comey described those emails in the Russian claim and expressed his concern that this Russian information could "drop" and that would undermine the Clinton investigation and the Justice Department in general, according to one government official.<br />Still, Comey did not let on to lawmakers that there were doubts about the veracity of the intelligence, according to sources familiar with the briefings. It is unclear why Comey was not more forthcoming in a classified setting.<br /><br /><br />Sources close to Comey tell CNN he felt that it didn't matter if the information was accurate, because his big fear was that if the Russians released the information publicly, there would be no way for law enforcement and intelligence officials to discredit it without burning intelligence sources and methods. </i>MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15130123338505421242017-07-08T11:19:02.625-05:002017-07-08T11:19:02.625-05:00Fakes in the news lately:
This Maddow story
The f...Fakes in the news lately:<br /><br />This Maddow story<br />The fake narrative of the Dossier (which the FBI read to Trump and possibly used to get a FISA warrant)<br />The memo from a Dem activist from Loretta Lynch, promising to take it easy on Hillary Clinton's email investigation. This memo has been reported as both not fake, and as obviously fake but still the reason Comey had to announce the results of the investigation (because someone might take it to not be fake)<br /><br />Is there going to be a point when all of this starts to make the FBI and media outlets begin to look clownish?MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7656552094775089852017-07-08T11:06:17.338-05:002017-07-08T11:06:17.338-05:00They are wrong about the intended target --
It is...They are wrong about the intended target --<br /><br />It is not "that there is some widespread, coordinated, official effort to feed news outlets false information in order to discredit stories about Trump and Russia."<br /><br />Rather, there is some widespread, coordinated, official effort to feed news outlets false information in order to discredit Trump. And most of the MSM in their pursuit of agenda/narrative journalism, are all too eager to bite and run with it.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30525462379695385222017-07-08T10:25:30.201-05:002017-07-08T10:25:30.201-05:00There is a reason that Rachel is commonly referre...There is a reason that Rachel is commonly referred to as "Rachel Mad Cow". She's long on looney tune lefty theories served up with a healthy addition of smirking snark. Were she self aware, she'd be ashamed to look in the mirror. Comanche Voterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01421716862520834472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13957524160662383672017-07-08T10:04:38.479-05:002017-07-08T10:04:38.479-05:00Here Wittes ws backing down from a statement he...Here Wittes ws backing down from a statement he'd made that The Intercept had been compromised:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/883405188609974274MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76423139963399025952017-07-08T10:03:43.220-05:002017-07-08T10:03:43.220-05:00Look who else has made himself a central figure in...Look who else has made himself a central figure in this controversy:<br /><br />https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/with_replies<br /><br />Comey's best friend!MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40424136512802245852017-07-08T09:59:32.521-05:002017-07-08T09:59:32.521-05:00This is a preemptive strike on her part. If--or r...This is a preemptive strike on her part. If--or rather when--she gets caught releasing a phony story, the phony story willl be further proof of the deviousness and perfidy of the Trumpistas.......There have been a lot of phony stories about Trump. More often than not they're a product of Democratic oppo research. Isn't it pretty to believe that some Machiavellian Trump operative is creating them to lure honest journalists to their doom.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-757190883225729482017-07-08T09:54:27.612-05:002017-07-08T09:54:27.612-05:00Cook - Republicans are Republicans. Republicans ar...Cook - Republicans are Republicans. Republicans are not "right-wingers." - no matter how many times the hack press says so.<br /><br />Democrats are not democrats - they are leftwing progressives. The democrat party is mostly dead, and leftists have taken its place.<br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47062297316936055762017-07-08T09:48:08.897-05:002017-07-08T09:48:08.897-05:00I remember when Greenwald's name was a sure si...I remember when Greenwald's name was a sure sign of fake news/disinformation. How did he rehabilitate himself?Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.com