tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2270913552648072278..comments2024-03-28T13:45:18.409-05:00Comments on Althouse: The Clinton victory speech: She found her "own voice" and did you notice the word she didn't say?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49791261064258844722008-01-09T17:01:00.000-06:002008-01-09T17:01:00.000-06:00Dil: I'm tired and emotional. (The Crying Game, 19...Dil: I'm tired and emotional. <BR/>(The Crying Game, 1992)Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17989440800105583582008-01-09T12:53:00.000-06:002008-01-09T12:53:00.000-06:00That's what I mean, AJ. They both speak about a c...That's what I mean, AJ. They both speak about a country that exists somewhere as a Platonic ideal, and they are going to take us to that promised land. It's the imagined, fetishized America of the ideal, and they foreground themselves as the One to take us there. <BR/><BR/>McCain, however, spoke about his love for the country as it is, the one in which most of us live now.PatCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920623662477828662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33022707313703367532008-01-09T11:31:00.000-06:002008-01-09T11:31:00.000-06:00"Change" is Obama's meme, and when Obama says it h..."Change" is Obama's meme, and when Obama says it he's tapping into the widely felt sentiment that it's time to flush the likes of the Clintons down the toilet. Obviously Hillary doesn't want to in any way go there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56969955983385864072008-01-09T11:24:00.000-06:002008-01-09T11:24:00.000-06:00I am with ZPS, if she found her own voice now, it ...I am with ZPS, if she found her own voice now, it is about time.<BR/><BR/>Does this mean that the shrill, annoying, paint peeling voice is retired or replaced?<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2711251744977402262008-01-09T11:03:00.000-06:002008-01-09T11:03:00.000-06:00Nice to see that after more than 20 years in publi...Nice to see that after more than 20 years in public and political life (governor's mansion, 2 terms in the White House, 6+ years in the Senate)...she's finally found her voice. <BR/><BR/>I truly believe she'd do good things for this country (people lose sight of that)...I just don't want to listen to or watch her doing any of them.Zachary Sirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144425123351503110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47386711662981255792008-01-09T10:33:00.000-06:002008-01-09T10:33:00.000-06:00Patca:I noticed last night that both Hillary and O...Patca:<BR/><BR/>I noticed last night that both Hillary and Obama spoke of how great this country is (even tho both want to change it and fix it cause it is so bad for all but the super-rich). <BR/><BR/>I also learned for the first time that John Edwards' father was a mill worker who was promoted to supervisor! And here I thought he was a simple mill worker his whole life.I'm Full of Souphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00241724007440718575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32424011629573673432008-01-09T10:27:00.000-06:002008-01-09T10:27:00.000-06:00Pogo is right. Dowd was right--it's like a Lifetim...Pogo is right. Dowd was right--it's like a Lifetime movie. I guess she won't be on Oprah talking about it, though. Nor will McCain, who is a man of steel and drew from that experience in his speech. It's shaping up to be 1972 again. I predict a win for Republicans, but not by the same huge margin. Pacifism is much more popular now than then.<BR/><BR/>Have you noticed that the Dems don't talk about the country much, especially love of country or national defense, but talk about themselves alot? Is narcissism interesting or compelling in a candidate? If so, why?PatCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920623662477828662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12381717625525324852008-01-09T10:11:00.000-06:002008-01-09T10:11:00.000-06:00"I listened to you when you applauded my tears...a..."I listened to you when you applauded my tears...and found my voice."<BR/><BR/>It's gonna be a wet spring.Patmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17884455503379229264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81751556579687138522008-01-09T09:38:00.000-06:002008-01-09T09:38:00.000-06:00The word "change" is being held up by her supporte...The word "change" is being held up by her supporters/fans.<BR/><BR/>The other word she didn't say was "Bill," who walked onto the stage with Chelsea, got a hug, and, most importantly, <I>exited</I>. Chelsea got two kisses; Bill, the kiss off.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03316388500723034455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6900603104058031542008-01-09T08:45:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:45:00.000-06:00"...and we need someone that knows what they're do..."...and we need someone that knows what they're doing."<BR/><BR/>So why should she be elected?Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36210549077349781692008-01-09T08:43:00.001-06:002008-01-09T08:43:00.001-06:00She found her voice. She found her true role, vic...She found her voice. She found her true role, victim. She found some more people to vote for her. She found Bill and put him out there.<BR/><BR/>When is she going to find her record of accomplsihment and acjivement and show it to us?Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85754036688871614552008-01-09T08:43:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:43:00.000-06:00Change? The current Democratic candidates do not w...Change? The current Democratic candidates do not want change! They want bills, large denominations, and lots of them. And they want yours and mine.<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67763185707526217612008-01-09T08:37:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:37:00.000-06:00"Here's the text of the speech, which I looked up ...<I>"Here's the text of the speech, which I looked up because I wanted to do a search and confirm my suspicion that a certain word — a word we've heard over and over lately — does not appear in the speech.<BR/><BR/>That word is: <B>change</B>."</I><BR/><BR/>A stunning over-the-fence grab to save a home run!<BR/><BR/>Nice catch Ann.<BR/><BR/>And a decent pivot on the part of the Clinton campaign. They've run a brilliant campaign for 2 years, carefully working on her weaknesses one by one, and now they've come up with a new theme to use to dig out. <BR/><BR/>I admit, I underestimated them, even as much as I respect their ruthlessness. <BR/><BR/><I>An enormous percentage of people say they want change and change isn't working as a message for me?<BR/><BR/>Well they're wrong, and its time to 'change' their minds. This isn't a game, its a serious business running the US of A, and we need someone that knows what they're doing. <BR/> <BR/>Change schmange. This is no game dammit.</I> <BR/><BR/>They're extremely good at this stuff. You gotta give them that.DaveWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01835113560041006697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80138616920165170612008-01-09T08:36:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:36:00.000-06:00Middle Class Guy: I got the from Hillary who used...Middle Class Guy: I got the from Hillary who used them only once when she took her plunge into cattle futures--she said they worked! Caveat emptorRoger J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12639676792043324100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68449110254320043302008-01-09T08:26:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:26:00.000-06:00There are many words you can use to describe Hilla...There are many words you can use to describe Hillary and "change" is not one of them, unless you put "no" in front of it.<BR/><BR/>I'm really happy for Bill, because he's always feeling my pain, taking on Hillary's was putting him in a bad mood. He's got a legacy to uphold.Laura Reynoldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15855241652633348350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51497759140334702752008-01-09T08:05:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:05:00.000-06:00Roger,Can I have your tea leaves?Roger,<BR/>Can I have your tea leaves?Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52253736206377626582008-01-09T07:51:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:51:00.000-06:00Pogo at 7:23 at the top of his game.Pogo at 7:23 at the top of his game.Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03316388500723034455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65689393565449587552008-01-09T07:44:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:44:00.000-06:00Given my dismal record of predictions, I am gettin...Given my dismal record of predictions, I am getting rid of my crystal ball and will pontificate only after the fact! Pass some more of that crow, please.Roger J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12639676792043324100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76958548335275803672008-01-09T07:42:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:42:00.000-06:00Fascinating to compare the boilerplate in her spee...Fascinating to compare the boilerplate in her speech, with its emphasis on government helping the downtrodden, against <A HREF="http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/01/08/raw-data-mccains-new-hampshire-victory-speech/" REL="nofollow">McCain's</A> steel:<BR/><BR/>"The work that awaits us...on our watch: to defend our country from its enemies; to advance the ideals that are our greatest strength; to increase the prosperity and opportunities of all Americans.....<BR/><BR/>"[The people] don’t send us to Washington to take more of their money, and waste it....<BR/><BR/>"[I represent] the party of fiscal discipline, low taxes; enduring values; a strong and capable defense; that encourages the enterprise and ingenuity of individuals, businesses and families...<BR/><BR/>"In a time of war, and the terrible sacrifices it entails, the promise of a better future is not always clear....<BR/><BR/>"We must...proclaim that the history of the world will not be determined by this unpardonable foe, but by the aspirations, ideals, faith and courage of free people. In this great, historic task, we will never surrender. They will."<BR/><BR/>For him, the overarching issue is vanquishing the threat to the Western civilization.<BR/><BR/>Sen. Clinton says she has "the wisdom to end the war in Iraq the right way."<BR/><BR/>Cart before horse, Mrs. Clinton? <BR/><BR/>Then again, what exactly does "the right way" mean?George M. Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818413936028778734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47018407231422591932008-01-09T07:30:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:30:00.000-06:00That 'voice'..... is that the Southern one she use...That 'voice'..... is that the Southern one she used in Alabama or the black one she used in Harlem?<BR/><BR/>GOD SAVE THE ALJoaquinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08498096020863312606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20648735232912551452008-01-09T07:29:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:29:00.000-06:00Maybe one change was the way youth changed our per...Maybe one change was the way youth changed our perception of how we traditionally view youth - oh our beloved youth.....wii like to vote, wii voted, wii may party instead of voting for a President come November, wii really believe our brats will not be spawned into our humdrum middle class existence because wii have a few semesters of college under our belts, wii prefer perecption and appearance over principle and conscience, wii will rule in due time because wii have big dreams and wii will rock you with them like wii just rocked Obamagoeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781857563232791703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62125413499531153452008-01-09T07:25:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:25:00.000-06:00She's trying to take Edwards' votes by appropriati...She's trying to take Edwards' votes by appropriating his rhetoric and Elizabeth Edwards' warmth. We sympathize with Elizabeth because she is warm and she might die. The Clintons had to simulate death. New Hampshire was about rebirth.Mortimer Breznyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16964027337144379262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9294123989551259632008-01-09T07:23:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:23:00.000-06:00It's no surprise that Hillary would listen to me a...It's no surprise that Hillary would listen to <I>me</I> and find <I>her</I> own voice.<BR/><BR/>If she looks at me, she sees her own reflection in my eyes. If she reads my constituent letters, she finds herself. If she touches me, she feels something to manipulate.<BR/><BR/>Her guiding philosophy is and always has been solipsism. If she looks into my wallet, she finds her national health care financing.<BR/><BR/>Hillary channels Tommy: <I>See me, feel me, touch me, heal me.</I> <BR/>And you gotta admit, she sure plays a mean pinball.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1363675896367524592008-01-09T07:21:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:21:00.000-06:00She re-found her own best role - victim. She's al...She re-found her own best role - victim. She's always gotten the most sympathy and support by playing the victim, whether it's as the cheated on wife, the target of a VRWC, or whatever. <BR/><BR/>The crying was one of her old tricks. Never seems to fail. Can she use it again?Tankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04187906854627334164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-944159178131506372008-01-09T07:15:00.000-06:002008-01-09T07:15:00.000-06:00I have listened to all the speeches and have come ...I have listened to all the speeches and have come to the following conclusion. Hillary Clinton's life is the best fairy tale I have ever heard. What is even better is she wrote the fairy tale herself.Peter V. Bellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04209902525167395224noreply@blogger.com