tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post2203093598081176182..comments2024-03-28T08:14:09.228-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Scott Walker is not Joe McCarthy. Their political convictions and the two moments in history are quite different."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger203125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32122319041895977652011-03-23T17:36:03.697-05:002011-03-23T17:36:03.697-05:00Good for you, Ann. I am glad somebody of prominenc...Good for you, Ann. I am glad somebody of prominence responded to that peice of misinformation since the site he posted on did not allow comments. Just like all propagandists, he failed to provide evidence for his allegation.Bill Eastlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485952888409335457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9870972545878021942011-03-23T10:51:19.369-05:002011-03-23T10:51:19.369-05:00rlegro , was Reagan talking about the private sect...rlegro , was Reagan talking about the private sector or the public sector?Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00117933390338651739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2388537336926345452011-03-23T10:20:46.279-05:002011-03-23T10:20:46.279-05:00Well, if Scott Walker patterns himself after the G...Well, if Scott Walker patterns himself after the Gipper, how do you explain this:<br /><br />“Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost” -- Ronald Reagan, 1980Man MKEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00531054697577604925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75659195415523853592011-03-23T02:28:11.621-05:002011-03-23T02:28:11.621-05:00Here's the full URL, which didn't display...Here's the full URL, which didn't display in its entirety:<br /> http://www.standingonthedeck.com/ uploads/Whom_Do_You_Trust.pdf<br /><br />[delete any extra spaces]<br /><br />.Don Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445006908076582414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86223810597716819492011-03-23T02:20:52.198-05:002011-03-23T02:20:52.198-05:00I am gratified by the number of people who've ...I am gratified by the number of people who've come to the defense of Joseph McCarthy. Incidentally, the title of that Ann Coulter book is "Treason." <br /><br />In 1995, when the VENONA transcripts were declassified, they revealed that at least 349 people in the U.S. (many of them identified by McCarthy) had engaged in clandestine activities with Soviet intelligence agencies. Among them were Solomon Adler, Cedric Belfrage, T.A. Bisson, Virginius Frank Coe, Lauchlin Currie (special assistant to FDR!), Harold Glasser, David Karr, Mary Jane Keeney, Philip Keeney, Leonard Mims, Franz Neumann, Allan Rosenberg, Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, and William Ludwig Ullman.<br /><br />Nearly everything most people THINK they know about McCarthy is wrong: http://www.standingonthedeck.com/uploads/Whom_Do_You_Trust.pdf<br /><br />.Don Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445006908076582414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47449847630165762382011-03-23T02:18:43.573-05:002011-03-23T02:18:43.573-05:00I am gratified by the number of people who've ...I am gratified by the number of people who've come to the defense of Joseph McCarthy. Incidentally, the title of that Ann Coulter book is "Treason." In 1995, when the VENONA transcripts were declassified, they revealed that at least 349 people in the U.S. (many of them identified by McCarthy) had engaged in clandestine activities with Soviet intelligence agencies. Among them were Solomon Adler, Cedric Belfrage, T.A. Bisson, Virginius Frank Coe, Lauchlin Currie (special assistant to FDR!), Harold Glasser, David Karr, Mary Jane Keeney, Philip Keeney, Leonard Mims, Franz Neumann, Allan Rosenberg, Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, and William Ludwig Ullman.<br /><br />Nearly everything most people THINK they know about McCarthy is wrong: http://www.standingonthedeck.com/uploads/Whom_Do_You_Trust.pdfDon Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00445006908076582414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80292240382627310332011-03-23T02:18:24.146-05:002011-03-23T02:18:24.146-05:00It is becoming ever more apparent to me that the l...<i><br />It is becoming ever more apparent to me that the left (which I once belonged to) ... </i><br /><br />Embarrassing, isn't it?<br /><br />However: from one recovering libtard to another - take heart! These goons are urinating on their own narrative. <br /><br />It is becoming increasingly more difficult to sustain the cognitive dissonance.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13772451948137524817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82580898880703529152011-03-23T00:35:28.654-05:002011-03-23T00:35:28.654-05:00I'm so sick and tired of reading the opinions ...I'm so sick and tired of reading the opinions of university professors on current union issues and the history of unions when those hypocrites don't admit to the reading public their glaring conflict of interest on the subject. <br /><br />Every single professor from a public university in Wisconsin belongs to faculty associations that vehemently oppose Governor Walker's policies yet they write opinions as if they are disinterested neutral observers. If I want this kind of opinion I would ask a prostitute what is wrong about the vice squad arresting hookers. Talk about a glaring example of unethical professional behavior.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08974629144135258900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63290846367069758532011-03-23T00:22:40.673-05:002011-03-23T00:22:40.673-05:00The unions were originally founded for noble purpo...The unions were originally founded for noble purposes. Today they are totally corrupt and in close alliance with every Communist, Socialist, and radical leftist organization in the country.<br /><br />http://sadhillnews.com/2010/10/03/one-nation-working-together-rally-list-of-sponsorsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46989667353743291282011-03-23T00:20:37.715-05:002011-03-23T00:20:37.715-05:00History is about recounting the unfolding of event...History is about recounting the unfolding of events and thought in an ever-evolving world, is it not? Determining the forces behind change, and accounting for events (especially disruptive ones) <br /><br />Disconcerting when a history professor rejects the notion that what once was viewed as appropriate and justifiable, even wise, may be proven flawed and outmoded in time --- and in the face of accelerating change in the world. <br /><br />This professor hangs his observations on the notion that it is wrong for citizens and their elected officials to reject what was, and to adopt instead a philosophy and strategy that is right because it is necessary. <br /><br />I suppose middle-grade historians become stuck in the past; that's so much easier. Top flight thinkers have an appreciation for the past and then attempt to interpret what is going on and why, with reference to the past.<br /><br />Historians present the full context to the best of their academic abilities. Do the traditions of Wisconsin Democrats include going absentia when faced with tough issues? Do the traditions of Wisconsin Democrats include being held hostage by a special interest group instead of acting on what the voters have said is important to them? Do the traditions of Wisconsin Democrats justify them enacting a huge tax package under cover without hearings and debate? What about THEIR traditions? Didn't see any reference to that. <br /><br />Give it to us straight up, whole cloth, professor, and then interpret as best you can. Or else spare us your opinions. We all have those, and they are worth little unless drawn from a rigorous analysis of the past leading to the needs and actions of the day.Terry Otthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09820634027576151546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87705776059902771152011-03-23T00:06:16.310-05:002011-03-23T00:06:16.310-05:00"Are you now or have you ever been a supporte..."Are you now or have you ever been a supporter of Scott Walker?" That's the most McCarthyist thing to come out of the past month, and it is labor unions and others on the left who are using it to harass businesses and other supporters of Walker. Threatening the economic destruction of people's livelihoods unless they start agreeing with you? That's McCarthyism, and it is Professor Cronon's side that is preaching it. <br /><br />Apparently academics thought it sounded silly to say Walker is Hitler, so they looked for another villain to compare him to. <br /><br />Because you hate Scott Walker does not make him hateful, Professor Cronon. That seems to the be the problem on your side of the debate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5759610138888890062011-03-22T22:05:59.132-05:002011-03-22T22:05:59.132-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16016593715853358880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27337947554312943432011-03-22T22:05:08.985-05:002011-03-22T22:05:08.985-05:00Something about this reminds me of the marriage of...Something about this reminds me of the marriage of Gertrude to Claudius in Hamlet, comparing Walker to Reagan... Really?!! Would Ronald Wilson Reagan have tolerated John Chianelli for an instant?! Uugghhh!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16016593715853358880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41038717390579079522011-03-22T21:41:54.599-05:002011-03-22T21:41:54.599-05:00McCarthy was a drunk and a demagogue and a lot of ...McCarthy was a drunk and a demagogue and a lot of the things that the left claimed him to be. He was, however, not a Communist and did not give valuable information to the Soviet Union. It was permissible to be anti-Communist but one had to finely calibrate one's opposition to such subversion. It was also permissible to have been a Communist. The calibration here was not so fine. It was, perhaps, wrong to furnish nuclear secrets to Stalin but all other forms of subversion were to be judged as a form of idealism until proven otherwise. It remains a fact that those NYC schoolteachers who were fired for membership in the Communist party later received much larger cash rewards than those Japanese who were rounded up and interned during WWII. It is worthy of note that we measure political hysteria not by the Japanese internment but by McCarthy's excesses......I'd also like to point out that the conservative senator Robert Taft opposed the internment. And look who didn't get interned. Roosevelt famously said that Italians were just a bunch of opera lovers, and I'm sure it didn't hurt that they were key demographic in several states.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17478239233558360632011-03-22T21:34:10.899-05:002011-03-22T21:34:10.899-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Libbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01290293394943041764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39744047733807499092011-03-22T19:44:27.207-05:002011-03-22T19:44:27.207-05:00Lindstrom defends those calling Walker Hitler by a...Lindstrom defends those calling Walker Hitler by asking "Whatever happened to respectful discussion and disagreement instead of simplistic hyperbole?"<br /><br />Some people's head's are so far up their ass their self awareness is simply gone.testhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09478829894294731159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11356113310532820722011-03-22T19:15:19.195-05:002011-03-22T19:15:19.195-05:00I'm curious. How many of those of you who hav...I'm curious. How many of those of you who have commented on Bill Cronon's op-ed, including Ms. Althouse, live in Wisconsin? How many of you have actually come to Madison to see four yourselves what is going on here? How many of you get your information about what is happening in Wisconsin and why from newspapers, TV news, internet news sources, blogs etc.? I'm very curious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45247622452965137432011-03-22T17:21:04.613-05:002011-03-22T17:21:04.613-05:00Yes. Why make direct observations about the charac...Yes. Why make direct observations about the characters of singular men such as McCarthy and Scott Walker when you can cast stereotypes upon <i>everyone opposed to them!!!!!111!11!?</i><br /><br />Reagan compromised. Sorry you didn't get the memo that's been circulating. <br /><br />Are you like the slowest person on the internets? I know you see uploading posts as like masturbation to your ego, but maybe stopping and actually <i>reading</i> what's in the news lately might not be a bad idea every now and then. Your big mouth would benefit from even bigger eyes and ears, O Great One.Ritmo Re-Animatedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15912086218531198114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29397347261344383292011-03-22T17:05:18.204-05:002011-03-22T17:05:18.204-05:00"We lost ours in Nov at 12 yrs, 8 mos. They a..."We lost ours in Nov at 12 yrs, 8 mos. They are great dogs!"<br /><br />Wow! Almost 13 yrs! Terrific work!<br /><br />We got one to 11 yrs and another to almost 12. Current dish tipper is almost three.<br /><br />Apologies again, to everyone.JohnJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12165814160732894810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13947329699929681872011-03-22T16:54:41.476-05:002011-03-22T16:54:41.476-05:00Lindstrom. Althouse shamed the protesters into cle...Lindstrom. Althouse shamed the protesters into cleaning up. Only painters tape was used except when other types of tape was used. You protest because AA spoke truth to power.PaulVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07487620952112732071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33977203708540599102011-03-22T16:31:10.836-05:002011-03-22T16:31:10.836-05:00Lindstrom, apparently @ Althouse: I am also incred...Lindstrom, apparently @ Althouse: <i>I am also incredibly disappointed by your simplistic portrayals of the protesters. How often were you actually there observing?</i><br /><br />How often was she there? You're kidding, right?hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670099074010641958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88284033667257368342011-03-22T16:27:02.985-05:002011-03-22T16:27:02.985-05:00@JohnJ: "Is that a Berner?"
Second of t...@JohnJ: <i>"Is that a Berner?"<br /><br />Second of three.</i><br /><br />We lost ours in Nov at 12 yrs, 8 mos. They are great dogs!<br /><br />(Sorry for going off thread, Professor, but Berners are important.)hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670099074010641958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86516097409392762792011-03-22T15:45:23.551-05:002011-03-22T15:45:23.551-05:00I'm disappointed in your weak rebuttal. As a p...I'm disappointed in your weak rebuttal. As a professor of law, I am disappointed that you're borrowing from common conservative tropes about the situation in Wisconsin. <br /><br />You basically argue that voters can only voice their opinion and influence politics once every 2-4 years at the ballot box. Does this mean we're supposed to sit back and give free reign the rest of the time? Do you think that is how the lobbyist system works in the United States? How does this argument account for referendums and recalls? <br /><br />I am also incredibly disappointed by your simplistic portrayals of the protesters. How often were you actually there observing? Did you know that organizations such as the TAA had voluntary clean-up crews to try and maintain cleanliness and order in the building? I personally spent four hours picking up trash and sweeping the floors. All signs were hung with painters tape, to make sure we were voicing our opinions carefully.<br /><br />Whatever happened to respectful discussion and disagreement instead of simplistic hyperbole?Lindstromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13876414432893923395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58681162644523860032011-03-22T15:03:24.893-05:002011-03-22T15:03:24.893-05:00their aggressiveness
Punch back twice as hard.
t...<i>their aggressiveness</i><br /><br />Punch back twice as hard.<br /><br /><i>their self-certainty</i><br /><br />I'm LeBron, baby.<br /><br /><i>their seeming indifference to contrary views</i><br /><br />I won. So, I will trump you on that.bgateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14094313567630214207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4282381592012343152011-03-22T14:51:00.556-05:002011-03-22T14:51:00.556-05:00"Is that a Berner?"
Second of three."Is that a Berner?"<br /><br />Second of three.JohnJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12165814160732894810noreply@blogger.com