tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1956725051815615204..comments2024-03-19T06:41:24.738-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Angry protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on Tuesday and hauled down the American flag..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger197125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77610784849485155802012-09-12T09:25:48.659-05:002012-09-12T09:25:48.659-05:00Clyde ... from your lips to G-d's ears. One w...<b>Clyde</b> ... from your lips to G-d's ears. One would think that we'd know the script by now, that certainly Obama's adminitration would know it. They do not.<br /><br />The appeasers have forgotten completely what Tet'1968 Vietcong attack, PAVN Saigon Attack 1975, and Tehran's 1979 Revolution portended. And that is just post WWII...actually, the phenomena is ancient. <br /><br />Politicians today have failed recall on other similar events of defiance such as Beirut 1983, WTC- NYC 1993, Khobar 1996, and USS Cole 2000, among several others....worst among them being NYC 11 Sep 2001. To me, if I listed this sequence of events to almost any 8th grader they'd come to a conclusion that bigger & worse things were coming. <br /><br />Now we have Egypt 2012 and Libya 2012, both on an anniversary of 11 Sep 2001. Both highly symbolic attacks, but ones relatively easy to make and fair low risk because they were in their own countries. <br /><br />The "movements" behind both the "Arab Spring" (a western imaginary concept) are now striving to drag their populace & culture back to 610 AD in a blatant attempt to establish a new "Saladin", a Kurdish Muslim born in Tikrit, Iraq; crowned "Sultan" in 1174 in Cairo, Egypt; died and buried in Damascus, Syria. In short, it is not like this stuff is new to the region these days.<br /><br />Now in the Jurassic of my youth, say 1958 in high school, virtually every 10th or 11th grader would know who "Salidin" was, what he did, as well as King Richard I of England. We had to take history courses, covering both the BC and AD time spans. No more. <br /><br />Today? Today I doubt you'd find 1 in 100 high school kids, or adults under 45 who would know who Saladin was, let alone King Richard of 12th century England...BUT we're still making movies and television shows about "robin Hood", eh? <br /><br />The risk...it is varied, but one of the worst is the fact that today's modern Jihadist Muslims are no where near as civilized as Saladin...not even close. Reason is the same, ignorance abetted by failure or or lack of education. <br /><br /><b>Clyde</b>, your remark on your own blog, excerpted here, just may be more germane than we think...<br /><br /><i>It is quite apparent that nation-building in the Middle East is a fool's errand, a waste of vast quantities of American money and American lives. We've been in Afghanistan for almost ten years and it's still one of the world's armpits. Iraq is better, but only marginally so. We would have been better served if we simply crushed our enemies and then left them to rebuild themselves, with the warning that if they ever messed with us again, we'd come back and hit them twice as hard and make the rubble dance. That's the kind of lesson that once applied, seldom needs to be repeated. But such ruthlessness is unfortunately not in the American character.</i> Aridoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345930150667529742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85441652375595839562012-09-12T07:37:44.924-05:002012-09-12T07:37:44.924-05:00Obama and Hillary had both better "man up,&qu...Obama and Hillary had both better "man up," fast. Apologies and appeasement won't cut it with most of the American people. A Carter-like response will guarantee a Carter-like election result in November.Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736461252925227611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47252749480719725282012-09-12T07:36:33.832-05:002012-09-12T07:36:33.832-05:00Patrick and Purple Penguin,
I wasn't advocati...Patrick and Purple Penguin,<br /><br />I wasn't advocating the torture of family. I was pointing out however that in some parts of the world, you get more respect with fear than with weakness/love. Some Roman said it well.<br /><br /><b>"Let them Hate us, as long as they Fear us"</b><br /><br />Well there are a bunch of ME Muslims who don't fear us much. <br /><br />On that note, the same types, killed our Ambassador to Libya yesterday in support of the same issue, along with 3 other diplomatic staff. <br /><br />Time to channel some Teddy (The good Roosevelt)The Drill SGThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394309533144027391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24684637897567743642012-09-11T23:14:27.021-05:002012-09-11T23:14:27.021-05:00Drop 10 nukes on each country. NOW.
Any nation th...Drop 10 nukes on each country. NOW.<br /><br />Any nation that doesn't keep mobs of its citizens from attacking OUR SOIL is aiding and abetting attacks on our nation. Therefore, they are enemy countries who portrayed themselves as friends, and should be dealt with swiftly and mercilessly as all traitors to friendship should be.<br /><br />Obliterate them into a radioactive stone age. <br /><br />Guaranteed no other country in the world will let anything like this happen for at least fifty years if we do so.<br /><br />Another way to say it: do you think the Chinese, the Russians, or Israel would let this happen to an embassy without swift, public death to many in revenge?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31736545314648192362012-09-11T23:07:17.389-05:002012-09-11T23:07:17.389-05:00This was in response by the way to the assertion t...This was in response by the way to the assertion that somehow it was wrong of Medved to say insulting Allah or Mohammad was offensive. How is he wrong about that? <br />That being said, so what? Muslims seem to be incapable of taking offense without going on jihads and storming embassies and chopping off people's heads.<br /><br />I'M OFFENDED that some savages tore down our flag and put up al Qaeda's. Under Muslim logic. Now would be a good time to kill some random Muslims.jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85429442624586916462012-09-11T22:59:29.280-05:002012-09-11T22:59:29.280-05:00No one is saying we can't be, but asserting we...No one is saying we can't be, but asserting we are takes some evaluation. We're not going to accept the rantings of a rioting lunatic as factual, are we?<br /><br><br />I haven't seen the movie, and in fact hadn't even heard of it. It MIGHT be offensive. Just as piss Crist was not only offensive, it was meant to provoke offense. And Christians SHOULD have felt offense. But I dont remember any Christians storming embassies or killing anyone over it. The guy who made piss Christ was a douche bag . Yes he had a right to make his art work but it doesnt mean he wasnt an a hole for doing so. <br />You have a right to be offensive and an asshole and not be killed for it.<br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36665192842654102362012-09-11T22:38:49.301-05:002012-09-11T22:38:49.301-05:00I noticed that earlier in the day, the @USEmbassyC...I noticed that earlier in the day, the @USEmbassyCairo twitter account had engaged in a (losing) conversation with twitter users (presumably Egyptians; accounts with Arabic names, at a minimum). Unfortunately -- or fortunately, depending on one's perspective -- those tweets have been deleted.<br /><br />The embassy's tone on twitter reminded me of the way a teenager might engage with a significant other who was about to dump them. My guess is that the embassy hired a twenty-something year old wunderkind with little practical, high stakes life experience to be the social media guru, and the wunderkind thought that the job was going to be all "OMG! The pyramids are so AWESOME! LOL!" and was a little overwhelmed with reality.<br /><br />As an aside, I recently had a conversation with a 20-something year old social media person who recently became wealthy when Google bought one of his projects. He said, "Twitter changes everything! It powered the Arab Spring, you know!" He had absolutely no clue what I was talking about when I replied, "No, it didn't." My bet is that the embassy staffer thought the same way, and that he or she still doesn't understand why their tweets didn't keep the embassy walls from being breached.Biffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18077565129056607925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69368025384229897342012-09-11T21:43:29.484-05:002012-09-11T21:43:29.484-05:00CWJ, seen any Puritans or Zealots lately? Are you...CWJ, seen any Puritans or Zealots lately? Are you expecting the Spanish Inquisition?<br /><br />In 2009, the Iranians showed how tired they are of strict theocracy (and Obama did nothing).<br />Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43065292984708322312012-09-11T21:19:11.380-05:002012-09-11T21:19:11.380-05:00Ralph L:
It's worth noting that while religio...Ralph L:<br /><br />It's worth noting that while religion has indeed been exploited to commit human and individual rights violations, it has been secular interests which have murdered and enslaved more people, in more places, in shorter time periods, and most recently. However, it is incorrect to assign blame to either religion or atheism for the nonsense. The common thread which joins all individuals and cooperatives in their quest to dominate and exploit others is a disregard for individual dignity and human life, and dreams of instant gratification.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82382130603985563732012-09-11T21:11:32.606-05:002012-09-11T21:11:32.606-05:00Home of the submissive. What a shame. The Americ...Home of the submissive. What a shame. The American philosophy which held individual dignity and human life in high regard was a short-lived example of positive progress for the human condition. Unfortunately, without a will to preserve our sovereignty, we are no longer exceptional, but merely another population which elects or is coerced to exchange their liberty for submission with benefits. Well, at least until evils are no longer sufferable. I suppose each generation must recognize and preserve their dignity anew.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56569304786050724292012-09-11T21:06:55.660-05:002012-09-11T21:06:55.660-05:00@Ralph L
Wow, tell me more. I'm a religious ...@Ralph L<br /><br />Wow, tell me more. I'm a religious person, but I do believe and acknowledge that mass religious fanaticism is one of the more enduring motivations around.<br /><br />So I'm more than a little surprised by your comment.<br />CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7379351460361891582012-09-11T20:54:46.911-05:002012-09-11T20:54:46.911-05:00The war could begin tomorrow, or ten years, or twe...<i>The war could begin tomorrow, or ten years, or twenty years from now<br /></i>Fortunately, mass religious fanaticism doesn't last forever. The question is, has it peaked yet?<br />Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90604622792191966222012-09-11T20:49:27.175-05:002012-09-11T20:49:27.175-05:00Remember ten days ago when Obama said "Around...Remember ten days ago when Obama said "Around the world, there is a new respect for America."<br /><br />Utter bullshit.Michael Hazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261384414481528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36707310958126435872012-09-11T20:48:10.014-05:002012-09-11T20:48:10.014-05:00Condemn Catholicism and apologize to islam. Do yo...Condemn Catholicism and apologize to islam. Do you need anything more to tell you what Obama's agenda (and true religion)is?Michael Hazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261384414481528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87591575584959994082012-09-11T20:47:23.891-05:002012-09-11T20:47:23.891-05:00Carter was blind-sided. This one planned it.Carter was blind-sided. This one planned it.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65265241526695602012012-09-11T20:47:07.413-05:002012-09-11T20:47:07.413-05:00Harold said...
Eventually? What eventually? W...<b> Harold said...<br /><br /> Eventually? What eventually? We're fighting it now. At least they're fighting it, and some us are aware it's going on.</b><br /><br /><br />If you think this is World War III, you've got another thing coming. I'm talking about entire cities, ours and theirs, gone in a flash of light. Maybe entire countries.Tyrone Slothrophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12304508836038921013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77811144587123479532012-09-11T20:38:03.003-05:002012-09-11T20:38:03.003-05:00"Eventually we will fight World War III again..."Eventually we will fight World War III against the Muslim world. .....The Iraq war delayed them for some time, and in fact that is what has "kept us safe", garage's wishful thinking aside."<br /><br />Eventually? What eventually? We're fighting it now. At least they're fighting it, and some us are aware it's going on.Gospacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570281939230746682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6255161202349203342012-09-11T20:36:40.165-05:002012-09-11T20:36:40.165-05:00It is now officially the policy of the US Governme...It is now officially the policy of the US Government that Islam is not to be criticized or mocked lest one be accused of abusing their free speech rights.<br /><br />Good going guys! You gave the barbarians exactly what they wanted.<br />georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402720592452236525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69806588459409190832012-09-11T20:13:45.070-05:002012-09-11T20:13:45.070-05:00--Son Of Carter. Maybe another hostage taking will...--Son Of Carter. Maybe another hostage taking will be the October surprise. First carter give us Khomenei. Now Obama is giving us The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. --<br /><br />I think it was Vodkapundit who posted a few months ago The Muslim Brotherhood declared war on us. We ignored that like we ignored Al Queda and 5 years later, the clock is ticking.<br />Seeing Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495289040972548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23575060620065252562012-09-11T20:02:12.354-05:002012-09-11T20:02:12.354-05:00But you also don't don "nothing" whi...But you also don't don "nothing" which is the grand total of what "leading from behind" is.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404319354712386201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23993540349305610032012-09-11T20:01:19.091-05:002012-09-11T20:01:19.091-05:00"Nasty" is sometimes needed in wartime.....<i><br />"Nasty" is sometimes needed in wartime...but not as nasty as the picture you painted. Kidnapping innocent family members and cutting off their body parts is not something I would be comfortable at ALL doing and I'd never ask a fellow solider/sailor to do something I wouldn't personally do.</i><br /><br />I'm not with the Penguin on too much, but I'm with him on this. We don't trade innocent people for our diplomats, and we don't slice limbs from innocent people. Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404319354712386201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5704044520660817992012-09-11T19:59:30.449-05:002012-09-11T19:59:30.449-05:00I can't imagine what they'd be doing if ...I can't imagine <a href="http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/09/11/state_department_attack_on_benghazi_consulate_ongoing" rel="nofollow">what they'd be doing</a> if they didn't love Barack Obamam so much.Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03404319354712386201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48010315905657712572012-09-11T19:53:04.200-05:002012-09-11T19:53:04.200-05:00"it [Egypt's Nour Party] submitted a requ..."it [Egypt's Nour Party] submitted a request to the US embassy demanding that the US government ban broadcast of the film and issue an official apology for its offensive content."<br /><br />I hope someone sent back a note that read: "Nuts!"<br /><br />Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64657288011446685962012-09-11T19:47:58.544-05:002012-09-11T19:47:58.544-05:00But hey, look on the bright side.
When the Middle...But hey, look on the bright side.<br /><br />When the Middle East is embroiled in WW III, we might actually have to start drilling for all the oil we have in US territory, look for REALISTIC alternative energy sources instead of greenie hallucinations, and build that pipeline from Canada (that is, if Canada isn't pissed off enough to tell us where to stick it by then).<br /><br />Energy independence. That's what Obama said he wants, right? Maybe this is a start!BarryDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08718280993291876400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62927839325195074932012-09-11T19:45:29.003-05:002012-09-11T19:45:29.003-05:00No, just pointing out that we are bound by treaty ...<i>No, just pointing out that we are bound by treaty to give Egypt it's 1.7 billion</i><br /><br />I wonder if you're actually dumb enough to believe that. :)<br /><br />The treaty was signed by Israel and Egypt. We're not a signatory to that treaty. Jimmy Carter *agreed* to send them money, but that has no binding effect on Obama. It didn't even have a binding effect on Carter.<br /><br />The only legal obligation we have to send money to either Israel or Egypt is that Congress authorized it in the budget. Even then, the President (under his foreign policy and executive powers) can simply opt not to send it.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.com