tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1720061026270768471..comments2024-03-28T19:23:37.979-05:00Comments on Althouse: "The 33-year-old self-proclaimed anarchist from Janesville smiled as he closed one eye, cocked his head and made a clicking sound to mimic gunfire coming from an assault rifle..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60744202703753826872017-09-26T12:57:27.491-05:002017-09-26T12:57:27.491-05:00If his lawyer permitted this interview, he has som... If his lawyer permitted this interview, he has some serious ethics issues in his future, I'm afraid. lawyapaloozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18422613465379940972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38708757845463150392017-09-26T09:39:26.750-05:002017-09-26T09:39:26.750-05:00@Rusty:
I didn't say it was.
Here is your e...<b>@Rusty:</b><br /><br /><i>I didn't say it was. </i><br /><br />Here is your exact quote: "Not taking each day as it comes there is a tradition of anticipating the future and making plans accordingly.Rather the opposite of anarchy."J. Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09118902560282089997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51993683750258736122017-09-26T06:13:49.613-05:002017-09-26T06:13:49.613-05:00In fact, one of the primary goals of the anarchist...In fact, one of the primary goals of the anarchist movements is to eliminate the state. Modern anarchist movements on the left and on the right agree that getting rid of the state is a worthy goal. "A tradition of anticipating the future and making plans accordingly" is not "really the opposite of anarchy."<br /><br />I didn't say it was. It is the opposite of the chaos which people think is living in a state of nature.<br /><br />Warner Herzog made a wonderful documentary called, "The Happy People" . Pay close attention to what the people actually sayRustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68303808132259394242017-09-25T21:37:36.601-05:002017-09-25T21:37:36.601-05:00This nebbish wandering into "the wilderness&q...<i>This nebbish wandering into "the wilderness" reminded me of Jack London's short story, "To Build A Fire". It's worth re-reading, or reading for the first time.</i><br /><br />I had some friends from England visiting about ten years ago and took them on a tour of California.<br /><br />We ended up in the Wine Country and I took them to Jack London's estate.<br /><br />They did not know who he was and I bought them a set of his books. We even hiked down to his burned out mansion , "Wolf's Lair."Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16037096467949821712017-09-25T21:35:08.887-05:002017-09-25T21:35:08.887-05:00"Didn't care for the sequel, though."..."Didn't care for the sequel, though."<br /><br />They eventually got to be soap operas but "The Mammoth Hunters" is pretty accurate about that culture.<br /><br />Lots of fantasy in the second book.<br />Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74506180149390948472017-09-25T21:28:20.581-05:002017-09-25T21:28:20.581-05:00>Farmer, you should read "Clan of the Cave...>Farmer, you should read "Clan of the Cave Bear." Jean Auel got a lot of things right.<br /><br />My favorite bit about the first book is that one of the characters is based on a skeleton in a museum. <br /><br />Didn't care for the sequel, though.John Nowakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14289896109284792526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71559980939708782972017-09-25T21:18:07.855-05:002017-09-25T21:18:07.855-05:00It really blinds people to just how cruel, brutal ...<i> It really blinds people to just how cruel, brutal nature truly is.</i><br /><br />Farmer, you should read "Clan of the Cave Bear." Jean Auel got a lot of things right.<br /><br />She had some fantasies about super women but she actually did quite a bit of field work.<br /><br />I doubt anarchy survived the first winter in Europe once they got out of Africa where it was warm all the time.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8644321196939898212017-09-25T18:13:42.867-05:002017-09-25T18:13:42.867-05:00Loved TBAF. We read that, and August Heat, and Le...Loved TBAF. We read that, and August Heat, and Leiningen vs. the Ants, and probably others, in 9th Grade.<br /><br />I rooted for the dog!MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37742843742409974072017-09-25T17:16:20.653-05:002017-09-25T17:16:20.653-05:00This nebbish wandering into "the wilderness&q...This nebbish wandering into "the wilderness" reminded me of Jack London's short story, "To Build A Fire". It's worth re-reading, or reading for the first time.<br />https://americanliterature.com/author/jack-london/short-story/to-build-a-fireThe Godfatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10575359417766667457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56400155026797299222017-09-25T16:24:31.158-05:002017-09-25T16:24:31.158-05:00In fact, one of the primary goals of the anarchist...In fact, one of the primary goals of the anarchist movements is to eliminate the state. <br /><br />Only to build a new state to suit themselves. They don't want anarchy, they just want their archy. Anytime you have 3 or more people you have politics.<br /><br /><br />There have been good arguments to the effect that 19th century England was effectively a "stateless society" in the sense that over most of it there was next to no salaried officialdom nor an administrative infrastructure.<br /><br />Patrick O'Brian in one of the Aubrey Maturin novels quotes but does not name a philosopher who states that the form of government should be of no concern to the individual. Ah, that's what you call right there a fantasy.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7400864349500153402017-09-25T16:13:05.170-05:002017-09-25T16:13:05.170-05:00On my recycle trip through mountains 2 of the peop...On my recycle trip through mountains 2 of the people in our platoon snuck out to walmart and smuggled a couple full bags of mini snickers bars in their packs.<br /><br />Those are dense sources of calories and fairly light weight.Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109507896997459818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80671145466393144212017-09-25T16:10:28.559-05:002017-09-25T16:10:28.559-05:00"... one of more than a dozen guns he admits ..."... one of more than a dozen guns he admits he stole a few days earlier from a Janesville gun shop."<br /><br />Not particularly bright. You don't want lots of guns. You want lots of ammunition. That is the heavy part. <br /><br />And I would trade the 3rd or 4th gun for an E-Tool... And a thermal blanket... <br /><br />And fruit? 90% water! That is heavy. Get jars of peanut butter and iodine and a little cook stove.Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109507896997459818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44012354042001902102017-09-25T15:35:01.527-05:002017-09-25T15:35:01.527-05:00@Rusty:
I think you'll find hunter gatherer s...<b>@Rusty:</b><br /><br /><i>I think you'll find hunter gatherer societies highly structured with definite rolls for each member. Not taking each day as it comes there is a tradition of anticipating the future and making plans accordingly.Rather the opposite of anarchy.</i><br /><br /><i>"stateless society" <br /><br />Does not mean anarchy.</i><br /><br />In fact, one of the primary goals of the anarchist movements is to eliminate the state. Modern anarchist movements on the left and on the right agree that getting rid of the state is a worthy goal. "A tradition of anticipating the future and making plans accordingly" is not "really the opposite of anarchy."J. Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09118902560282089997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19771719842373305092017-09-25T15:34:03.843-05:002017-09-25T15:34:03.843-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.J. Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09118902560282089997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38006263970763033702017-09-25T15:19:25.561-05:002017-09-25T15:19:25.561-05:00"stateless society"
Does not mean anar... "stateless society" <br /><br />Does not mean anarchy.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85578614454729459582017-09-25T15:17:39.391-05:002017-09-25T15:17:39.391-05:00Blogger J. Farmer said...
"Human beings lived...<br /><br />Blogger J. Farmer said...<br />"Human beings lived under anarchism for about 95% of our entire history. Why people are clambering to get back to the lifestyle of the hunter-gatherer," <br /><br />I think you'll find hunter gatherer societies highly structured with definite rolls for each member. Not taking each day as it comes there is a tradition of anticipating the future and making plans accordingly.Rather the opposite of anarchy.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69219566822899871462017-09-25T14:35:32.761-05:002017-09-25T14:35:32.761-05:00As a felon, this guy wasn't allowed to own a g...As a felon, this guy wasn't allowed to own a gun.<br /><br />That said, the only reason he was a fugitive was that he stole enough weapons for a platoon.John Nowakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14289896109284792526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7554539069021786272017-09-25T14:23:46.820-05:002017-09-25T14:23:46.820-05:00If you do honest work and buy a gun person to pers...If you do honest work and buy a gun person to person where it's legal nobody cares if you go camping. Pinandpullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027787389672267726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48609093342744629102017-09-25T14:20:44.524-05:002017-09-25T14:20:44.524-05:00IIRC The Into the Wild guy was pissed at the five ...IIRC The Into the Wild guy was pissed at the five year waiting list to float the Colorado River. I think he might have had a point there. He managed to survive that much. Pinandpullerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027787389672267726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8645406222284242882017-09-25T13:50:53.535-05:002017-09-25T13:50:53.535-05:00There have been good arguments to the effect that ...There have been good arguments to the effect that 19th century England was effectively a "stateless society" in the sense that over most of it there was next to no salaried officialdom nor an administrative infrastructure. People were not tracked, or poorly tracked by the state. It was more stateless than most of the US, and certainly more stateless than continental Europe or even many of its own colonies. buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388691837737324814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29781967506372984152017-09-25T13:12:49.368-05:002017-09-25T13:12:49.368-05:00Archeologists who make claims about this or that s...Archeologists who make claims about this or that site — say, some neolithic village in western Anatolia — as being an example of a "stateless society" are pushing the boundaries of what can be rationally inferred from what amounts to trash and detritus. Quaestorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13688608372863540573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86848143031874438902017-09-25T13:11:23.365-05:002017-09-25T13:11:23.365-05:00How Chiefs Come to Power<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FotYss3fRo" rel="nofollow">How Chiefs Come to Power</a>Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837407567105543162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2096607164216390862017-09-25T13:10:41.588-05:002017-09-25T13:10:41.588-05:00smiled as he closed one eye, cocked his head and m...<i>smiled as he closed one eye, cocked his head and made a clicking sound to mimic gunfire coming from an assault rifle</i><br /><br />Clicking!?!? Even his rifle is running on empty.madAsHellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01149940549262340795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71342412510380291152017-09-25T13:03:37.519-05:002017-09-25T13:03:37.519-05:00Hunter-gatherers were not anarchists. There were v...Hunter-gatherers were not anarchists. There were very strict norms and mores that were enforced by the powerful over the weak. The formal state did not develop however until agriculture produced surplus, which produced specialization, which eventually led to cities and civilization. The state became the means that the powerful used to enforce their will over the weak.Gahriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795449308207016641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12044017944543004762017-09-25T13:01:16.680-05:002017-09-25T13:01:16.680-05:00A "stateless society" implies more contr...A "stateless society" implies more contradictions than clarity.Quaestorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13688608372863540573noreply@blogger.com