tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1588414187174124671..comments2024-03-28T11:57:44.907-05:00Comments on Althouse: "A University of Wisconsin-Madison professor has apologized after showing a picture in class on Monday that showed a black woman above the word 'animals.'"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger112125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79161125860938443292017-01-28T08:19:05.572-06:002017-01-28T08:19:05.572-06:00Watching the left eat itself has been a remarkable...Watching the left eat itself has been a remarkable experience. I have ZERO sympathy for the leftist professor who can't get out of bed without offending someone. This is the world they created. Choke on it.Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06077884750443371898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31844068957622174532017-01-28T07:41:51.178-06:002017-01-28T07:41:51.178-06:00Quote: "But we are animals."
Agreed. I&...Quote: "But we are animals."<br /><br />Agreed. I'd have taken offense only if she'd called me a plant. <br /><br />I also wonder why, in a discussion of the Irish potato famine, she did use a picture of an Irish family that resembled those in that era. That's a father, mother, and children. Those are the ones affected by the famine. <br /><br />With these sad-sack people, ideology is constantly overriding reality. <br /><br />Inklinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05272203500649628022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52899982420209897502017-01-27T18:00:54.653-06:002017-01-27T18:00:54.653-06:00I do a lot of lectures and have spent much of toda...I do a lot of lectures and have spent much of today in fact filling out my powerpoints with various media like pictures. I've spent a lot of time thinking about what pictures best fit.<br /><br />The purpose of adding pictures to a presentation is to evoke something in the audience. So, I totally get and appreciate she had to apologize. In today's culture <i>of course</i> someone is going to notice such a correlation, whether unintended or not. I think she handled the response well. If our goal is to communicate, then we have to listen to feedback. <br /><br />If I had to choose a picture and wanted to connect people to the content, the best way would have been to choose a crowd picture, ideally multiracial. We're all in this together. The way humanity has, and continues, to dehumanize particular groups of other people is an important reason to show that we're fundamentally the same, the same sort of animal. <br /><br />Know the audience and let the images supplement the material. Above all, don't let the image distract from the material. And as images have certainly throughout the years been used to negate groups of people, how we use images today is not a neutral activity. It comes with goals and history. Shouldn't obsess about it (better to leave out pictures in that case) but given all the different pictures we can use, make an informed choice that furthers the goals. Paddy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442537362540160512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16511781880656368672017-01-27T14:11:05.806-06:002017-01-27T14:11:05.806-06:00"And I'm sure a teacher who does a slide ...<i>"And I'm sure a teacher who does a slide like that and uses an image of a white man to represent the human animal risks criticism for perpetuating the assumption that the white man is the exemplar of humanity and for rendering women and minorities invisible."</i><br /><br />But, it's not an error, it's by design: <i>there are no safe harbors.</i> <br /><br />If you say "A is A" then you're racist, and if you say "A is not A" then you're racist. The answer is, you are racist. We know you're racist and that's why there are no safe harbors.<br /><br />So shaddup already while we lecture you.<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099940931064117337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20640401199386433822017-01-27T13:58:57.002-06:002017-01-27T13:58:57.002-06:00Pookie, I feel you - just showing how we have been...Pookie, I feel you - just showing how we have been led down the garden path so far we don't even recognize it. The frog pot is quite warm.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1242659419001902142017-01-27T13:57:04.640-06:002017-01-27T13:57:04.640-06:00Ann Althouse said...
It's such an ugly factoi...Ann Althouse said... <br />It's such an ugly factoid, that IQ business. How can that be a go-to comment for you? This is a serious question: Do you believe there is a God who watches you and judges you? I cannot believe the answer is yes. Assuming the answer is no, I'll ask: Do you have no moral conscience? <br /> 1/27/17, 8:35 AM <br /><br />But you like ugly. I went to that Tom and Lorenzo link of those horrid clothes. Poor models. You could see they all wanted to die. Actually, that is not a patch on the ugliness of your vision on the space program. I was utterly revolted; perhaps that should make me emphathize with you on this racism kick, but I just don't get what you are saying here.<br /><br />You also, purportedly, like true, and apparently the factoid is true, or at least you are not refuting it except with "eeew!" Do you think you understood the point that I was making? Can you restate it in your own words?<br /><br />Of course I believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. What an odd question, especially coming from you, an atheist. Do you want to rephrase?<br /><br />Seriously, what are you trying to say? <br />Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61574691975405272322017-01-27T12:26:07.810-06:002017-01-27T12:26:07.810-06:00Che Dolf:
You quoted out of context. Intelligenc...Che Dolf:<br /><br />You quoted out of context. Intelligence statistics are affected by both nature and nurture.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62660698974160220662017-01-27T10:18:21.767-06:002017-01-27T10:18:21.767-06:00Imagine a world in which the professor's respo...Imagine a world in which the professor's response was not to grovel and apologize, but to say "F*** you, you know what I meant." And in which the administration backed her up, saying, "You guys really need to quit pretending to be so offended by everything."<br /><br />In other words, imagine a different world.Larvellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627555884168845618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62448951440873983962017-01-27T08:46:36.652-06:002017-01-27T08:46:36.652-06:00"But we are animals."
We are also objec..."But we are animals."<br /><br />We are also objects. Which means women are objects. I have had some fun conversations along these lines.JLScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331258121164576599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66752801949995679562017-01-27T08:35:51.045-06:002017-01-27T08:35:51.045-06:00It's such an ugly factoid, that IQ business. H...It's such an ugly factoid, that IQ business. How can that be a go-to comment for you? This is a serious question: Do you believe there is a God who watches you and judges you? I cannot believe the answer is yes. Assuming the answer is no, I'll ask: Do you have no moral conscience?Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6092151690521857952017-01-27T07:53:16.980-06:002017-01-27T07:53:16.980-06:00Ha. A year from now, maybe only six months from n...Ha. A year from now, maybe only six months from now, the professor will consider himself a fool for apologizing for sometbing that required no apology. The hysterical PC will fade quickly as we proceed in the real world led by big boys who will ignore the verities of the loony left.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258681007386089907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70103191955183583522017-01-27T07:43:51.722-06:002017-01-27T07:43:51.722-06:00Pookie, "illegal immigrants" cedes half ...<i>Pookie, "illegal immigrants" cedes half the battle. America quite likes immigrants per se. "Illegal aliens" is SCOTUS approved and quite clear. I don't care if they're here to immigrate or do a smash-and-grab, they're aliens and they're here illegally, hence "illegal aliens" is perfectly proper.</i><br /><br />I hear you - I guess I was thinking that they immigrated illegally, so "illegal immigrant" worked for me. <br /><br />Mostly I was pointing out Althouse's inconsistency.Pookie Number 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14410582724951232720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51982909796609305392017-01-27T07:29:54.267-06:002017-01-27T07:29:54.267-06:00She should have used a picture of herself in black...She should have used a picture of herself in black face.MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86797520869938220152017-01-27T07:10:04.494-06:002017-01-27T07:10:04.494-06:00Michael K said...
He told me that he wasn't go...<i>Michael K said...<br />He told me that he wasn't going to dumb down a physiology class just because a bunch of pre-Meds wanted A's.<br /><br />Times change. When I was a premed, we were hated because we got all the As in classes.</i><br /><br />As a science major, my supreme pleasure was blowing the curve for the pre-meds.Fritzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08403113111574246294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81669020373334364752017-01-27T07:05:36.000-06:002017-01-27T07:05:36.000-06:00And if you want to make that point, that humans ar...And if you want to make that point, that humans are animals, with clarity, multiple pics-a dog, a fish, and a person-gets it across unmistakably.<br /><br />The lesson:<br /><br />Professors like to shock, but they don't like to be shocked.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83140857992411600592017-01-27T07:01:37.713-06:002017-01-27T07:01:37.713-06:00Sparrow, +1. Epater le bourgeoisie has its perils....Sparrow, +1. Epater le bourgeoisie has its perils. Cheeky has a limited place in science classes. I'm glad she got bit; doubt she'll learn though, except what they wanted to teach her-minorities are radioactive. No heroes here. They're all animals!<br /><br />Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3943355806203422212017-01-27T06:56:12.466-06:002017-01-27T06:56:12.466-06:00Kovacs, yes, a gorgeous mosaic covering all demogr...Kovacs, yes, a gorgeous mosaic covering all demographics is safest.<br /><br /><br />Largo, yes, without the barb. Let the prof show some humility (are you listening, Ann?) and offer a pic of HERSELF as an animal. THAT would stir axons while disarming suspicions, not some prognathous Bantu with her dugs hanging out whom you can "other." <br /><br />Pookie, "illegal immigrants" cedes half the battle. America quite likes immigrants per se. "Illegal aliens" is SCOTUS approved and quite clear. I don't care if they're here to immigrate or do a smash-and-grab, they're aliens and they're here illegally, hence "illegal aliens" is perfectly proper.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92194718499496094902017-01-27T06:55:59.715-06:002017-01-27T06:55:59.715-06:00The right call was to place a cat or dog under ani...The right call was to place a cat or dog under animals. The reason is that classifying any human under the heading "animal" is an insult and she should have known it. It's part of the hypermaterialist over-extension of Science to deny the distinctions that exist between human kind and the animal world. Moral relativists frequently equate animals with humans and ascribe rights to them. It's a philosophical point she was shoe-horning into the biological discussion and she got called on it. Although the offense is not racist rather it was intended to insult all humanity. sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01693437681522726538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24019982633858963402017-01-27T06:50:19.984-06:002017-01-27T06:50:19.984-06:00Csving in and apologizing is a terrible idea.
Sci...Csving in and apologizing is a terrible idea.<br /><br />Scientists need to stand by their teaching. If no racist intent was meant, apologizing for it is insane. You cannot sit there and apologize for hurting the feelings of the easily hurt.damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67416236460382776812017-01-27T06:22:35.054-06:002017-01-27T06:22:35.054-06:00Is it too much to expect that he word "animal...<i>Is it too much to expect that he word "animals" be understood in a "biological sense" in a biological science class?</i><br /><br />Is it too much to expect that the words "illegal immigrants" be understood in a "legal sense" in a legal discussion?Pookie Number 2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14410582724951232720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74298694404008838482017-01-27T05:07:37.753-06:002017-01-27T05:07:37.753-06:00Use a picture of multiple people of different race...Use a picture of multiple people of different races. Problem solved.Kovacshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01743816608824623848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24475779385857858132017-01-27T03:09:22.738-06:002017-01-27T03:09:22.738-06:00Picture of the prof. Above the caption "Not A...Picture of the prof. Above the caption "Not A Vertebrate".<br />Largohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15082394436785605297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31065174732026482482017-01-27T01:57:53.466-06:002017-01-27T01:57:53.466-06:00Bad Lieutenant said... But blacks do have an avera...<b>Bad Lieutenant</b> said... <i>But blacks do have an average 86 IQ.</i> <br /><br /><b>n.n</b> said... <i>Nature or nurture? The emergent evidence suggests the latter...</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000810" rel="nofollow">No</a>:<br />• More than half of the difference between expert and normal readers is genetic.<br />• Less than a fifth of the expert-normal difference is due to shared environment.<br /><br /><a href="http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/05/09/links-516-linko-de-mayo/" rel="nofollow">No</a>:<br />Adopted adults’ IQ is so unrelated to the IQ of their adoptive mother that in some studies the correlation shows up as nonsignificantly negative.<br /><br /><a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=qtZsDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=%22The+Neuroscience+of+Intelligence%22+and+%22nature+more+than+nurture%22&source=bl&ots=bc6RHIcGBr&sig=rfuTH3Awnj-Bzq55-zJ8b5s0zyQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2jdi_6uHRAhXD7yYKHZEbAZMQ6AEIMDAD#v=onepage&q=%22The%20Neuroscience%20of%20Intelligence%22%20and%20%22nature%20more%20than%20nurture%22&f=false" rel="nofollow">No</a>:<br />Nature More than Nurture: The Impact of Genetics on Intelligence (Chapter 2 in Richard Haier's "<a href="http://www.cambridge.org/us/academic/subjects/psychology/cognition/neuroscience-intelligence?format=PB&isbn=9781107461437" rel="nofollow">The Neuroscience of Intelligence</a>")Che Dolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04969186793638404876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7661187033728465892017-01-27T01:01:22.512-06:002017-01-27T01:01:22.512-06:00We aren't animals. We're special snowflake...We aren't animals. We're special snowflakes. Unless we are the bad kind of snowflake. Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05900300303751364008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91305498817458424232017-01-26T23:57:04.204-06:002017-01-26T23:57:04.204-06:00The left eating itself, one victim at a time.The left eating itself, one victim at a time.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.com