tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1419188691566632098..comments2024-03-28T08:43:05.375-05:00Comments on Althouse: Drake is "disgusted" that Rolling Stone "took my cover from me last minute and ran" with Philip Seymour Hoffman.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20578087059500943402014-02-14T23:37:05.044-06:002014-02-14T23:37:05.044-06:00ps - no one is giving Hoffman "extra credit.&...ps - no one is giving Hoffman "extra credit." That's perverse actually. The people who understand his talent and his struggle are just trying to pay him his due. And trying to grapple with what's left. We have to see every cover of every magazine filled with the likes of Drake, Kanye, Kim, etc. I'd rather see Hoffman on every single one of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80210789565755879762014-02-14T23:27:40.794-06:002014-02-14T23:27:40.794-06:00Dear Ann,
If you knew anything about Hoffman'...Dear Ann,<br /><br />If you knew anything about Hoffman's career, or the depth of it, or the way he created his art and work, how he supported theater, young people, students, how much money he gave to these ventures, how hard he worked, and how hard he tried to stay alive, you wouldn't be saying what you said. The man had integrity and a heart of gold. And yes, he was a drug addict. Deal with it. To compare Drake's talent, dead or alive, to Hoffman's is like comparing...actually, there is no comparison. Regardless of drugs or politics or money or class or gay or straight, or black or white or any bullshit that these comments suggest, Hoffman was a great talent and a great human being. Drake has a lot to learn. I mean, sure, it was crappy that his cover was taken from him. But you don't say that shit out loud. He's a spoiled, no talent (in my opinion) kid who has a lot to learn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50522188665150191672014-02-14T17:31:30.209-06:002014-02-14T17:31:30.209-06:00Sigivald,
Was Hoffman a musician?
If not, why is...Sigivald,<br /><br /><i>Was Hoffman a musician?<br /><br />If not, why is he on the cover of </i>Rolling Stone<i> at all?</i><br /><br />He certainly played the role of a second violinist brilliantly in <i>A Late Quartet</i>, which makes him somewhat more of a musician than Pope Francis. Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12316830148759706542014-02-14T14:19:14.025-06:002014-02-14T14:19:14.025-06:00Shit happens.Shit happens.American Liberal Elitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01825437003662822978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18235611832399940552014-02-14T14:12:28.320-06:002014-02-14T14:12:28.320-06:00Was Hoffman a musician?
If not, why is he on the ...Was Hoffman a musician?<br /><br />If not, why is he on the cover of <i>Rolling Stone</i> at all?<br /><br />(I mean, not that the Stone matters <i>at all</i> anymore, except to aging boomers on the Left.<br /><br />And to musicians desperate for some sort of validation, ala Drake...?)Sigivaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16152366541957466049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68455819291988177672014-02-14T13:17:45.042-06:002014-02-14T13:17:45.042-06:00He might as well complain about not making the cov...He might as well complain about not making the cover of AARP magazine for all the relevance Rolling Stone magazine has to anyone under 50. Or 60, if the 50-somethings were hipsters.Jeff with one 'f'https://www.blogger.com/profile/05744612696537883583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31647395433866868402014-02-14T13:05:45.825-06:002014-02-14T13:05:45.825-06:00"Happy Valentines Day to another self-absorbe...<i>"Happy Valentines Day to another self-absorbed Canadian..."</i><br /><br />Is there any other kind? Canadian-ness is a national industry.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14341576498315327700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44693276574733884232014-02-14T13:04:49.443-06:002014-02-14T13:04:49.443-06:00Might be time to check in with Frank Zappa on this...Might be time to check in with Frank Zappa on this.<br /><br />Frank, Wadda ya think?<br /><br />Frank: Rock journalism is people who can't write, doing interviews with people who can't think, in order to prepare articles for people who can't read.<br /><br />Well, OK then>Jay Vogthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05791588395485069312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52717239260892591452014-02-14T12:55:41.059-06:002014-02-14T12:55:41.059-06:00Silverstein also wrote "Boy Named Sue."
...Silverstein also wrote "Boy Named Sue."<br /><br />Wow.George M. Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818413936028778734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11862860694827840162014-02-14T12:43:33.344-06:002014-02-14T12:43:33.344-06:00PSH did show us somebody who's doing something...PSH did show us somebody who's doing something good, offering new, positive things that make life worth living. He also showed us the darker side of human nature. <br /><br />You don't have to take sides.kjbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205930548533839170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35171811688491877452014-02-14T12:29:55.265-06:002014-02-14T12:29:55.265-06:00Ann Althouse,
"The first word I heard was th...Ann Althouse,<br /><br />"The first word I heard was the N-word, and that word kept recycling. I don't like that."<br /><br />Nigga, please.<br /><br />"Open Books, Not Legs. Blow Minds , Not Guys." <br /><br />- Drake<br /><br />What a terrible message Drake's pushing on a white public, so much better than he. <br /><br />Look down, white folks, from your perch of self-designated, non-dancing, non-rhyming, almost-rhythmless-by-comparison superiority, knowing you dictate all, your massive ignorance be damned.<br /><br />Who did everyone from Elvis to Eminem get their shit from? Who was Nick Drake and Dylan trying to emulate? <br /><br />Really, watching white people discuss black ANYTHING - which they rarely understand without a black guide - is hilarious. And horrifying:<br /><br />Scott,<br /><br />"An overwrought post on an overwrought complaint by a no-account rapper.<br /><br />And anyway, when I think of "Drake," I think of Nick Drake, who did have massive talent and who wasn't some dumbass rapper."<br /><br /><br />Really, Ann, I don't know how you deal with such ignorance and obvious racism.<br /><br />Personally, I'm glad dumbass, no-account Rap is the biggest selling music phenomena on the planet - and Nick Drake is but a footnote - or I'd be tempted to think this man knows what he's talking about.<br /><br />None of you know what you're talking about.<br /><br />So why are you talking?<br /><br />Oh yeah - so we blacks will have SOMETHING to laugh about.<br /><br />It's either hearing them screaming "That's not music!" or hearing their thoughts on fairness and equality after they utilized 400 years of slavery money for their own designs.<br /><br />Go on, guys - tell us how it is:<br /><br /><a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">My black friends and I are enjoying this open exhibition, in one place, of white folks' accumulated brilliance,...<br /></a>The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29530434271955379172014-02-14T11:45:10.988-06:002014-02-14T11:45:10.988-06:00Re: Contractually guaranteed cover.
I once work...Re: Contractually guaranteed cover. <br /><br />I once worked on a Playmate of the Year's contract with Playboy. Playboy was very generous with our demands, but not that. They retained total discretion precisely because something could happen between shoot and publication. Twas a while ago, but that's my anecdote. $9,000,000,000 Write Offhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14455548811771787363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3419217926413306212014-02-14T11:23:16.565-06:002014-02-14T11:23:16.565-06:00Of course "Cover of the Rolling Stone" w...Of course "Cover of the Rolling Stone" was written by Shel Silverstein, "Rose Garden" by Joe South, two great songwriters.<br /><br />I had a subscription to Rolling Stone and read it cover to cover. One day I read a review of "Who Are You", where the reviewer went to great pains to explain that what The Who meant was that The Who are you (the audience).<br /><br />A light bulb went off, I cancelled my subscription to this pretentious nonsense, and haven't looked at it since.<br /><br />I'd never heard of Hoffman until his death was announced as a somber break-in to network sports programming. Another heroin OD by a tortured artist? Meh.Wilburhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17648146528637449534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85986066261723154992014-02-14T11:22:46.684-06:002014-02-14T11:22:46.684-06:00Surfed: Great actors are as rare as big-wave ride...Surfed: Great actors are as rare as big-wave riders. Something you pinner shore-break Atlantic kooks wouldn't understand. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048255624944551506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7291439752556053182014-02-14T11:22:05.485-06:002014-02-14T11:22:05.485-06:00I am confused. I saw the cover of Rolling Stone on...I am confused. I saw the cover of <i>Rolling Stone</i> on a news stand just yesterday, and it had Pope Francis on it.Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44524105220068500662014-02-14T11:21:37.087-06:002014-02-14T11:21:37.087-06:00Neither Rolling Stone nor Drake are traffic signs ...Neither Rolling Stone nor Drake are traffic signs on my road through life so it's like watching kittens fight.......I admired Hoffman's talent, but as poetic deaths go it wasn't much. He left behind an impressive body of work so it wasn't like he was cut down before his full flowering. And he wasn't that good looking either. Premature deaths are so much more tragic when they involve good looking people. Beyond that I deduct points when the death involves suicide or an overdose. Sloppiness and self indulgence aren't particularly tragic or poetic......Now if Justin Bieber died in a flaming Lamborghini, we would all pause and contemplate the transience of our stay on earth and the vanity of human wishes. It would be the most haunting and poetic death ever. Justin Bieber has that potential.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79147746657162895242014-02-14T11:20:00.740-06:002014-02-14T11:20:00.740-06:00I'm taking Drake with crap old and new materia...I'm taking Drake with crap old and new material, is jealous at being eclipsed by a real artist who's material remains fresh PSH gave everything of himself to entertain and enlighten *us*. How PSH died is only material to his family, ghoulish voyeurs and judge-mental scolds. Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01048255624944551506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64318861700594765592014-02-14T11:16:55.258-06:002014-02-14T11:16:55.258-06:00Althouse,
I am in the same boat. I would much ra...Althouse,<br /><br />I am in the same boat. I would much rather seen Rolling Stone celebrate a living musician than an actor who both destroyed himself and not only left his children penniless but straight up fucked them over. And I say that having no particular love for, enthusiasm for, or interest in Drake.The Scythianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838229397619055117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84713116467647651612014-02-14T10:50:30.653-06:002014-02-14T10:50:30.653-06:00"We keep getting richer, but we can't get..."We keep getting richer, but we can't get our picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone."Bob Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14217663230833386582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39762227593327014872014-02-14T10:41:30.579-06:002014-02-14T10:41:30.579-06:00No shortage of good actors. To carry on as if they...No shortage of good actors. To carry on as if they were on some endangered species list. Unseemly.Heartless Aztechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239870131881488916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32683912483350396382014-02-14T10:31:31.578-06:002014-02-14T10:31:31.578-06:00"Meanwhile, Drake is staying alive, giving mu..."Meanwhile, Drake is staying alive, giving music to the people. "<br />No, he's not. He's <i>selling</i> music to the people, and making a pretty good living. Which is not the same thing.Uncle Pavianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13480283328385437443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88091673615845414392014-02-14T10:25:12.000-06:002014-02-14T10:25:12.000-06:00Drake needs to learn the #1 thing to know about ne...Drake needs to learn the #1 thing to know about newsstand sales.<br /><br />When John Lennon was killed, People rushed out a memorial edition, the first time it had done that. Result? Huge sell out. <br /><br />Result? You know the rest of the story.<br /><br />Here are the "Laws" dictated by People's then Managing Editor...<br /><br />Armed with some of the richest data imaginable, People’s founding editor, Richard Stolley, developed Stolley’s <a href="http://themagazinist.com/Stolley_s_Laws.html" rel="nofollow">Law of Covers</a> in the late ’70s and has kept them updated since. Bear in mind the subject matter: laws that work for People may not work for, say, Cat Fancy. <br />1. Young is better than old. America, as we’re constantly reminded, is a youth-obsessed culture. <br />2. Pretty is better than ugly. No matter how notorious, off-putting subjects hurt sales. <br />3. Rich is better than poor. Stolley sums up this rule by asserting that our culture is more interested in Daddy Warbucks than in Little Orphan Annie. <br />4. Movies are better than television. Stolley believes this has flipped since People was founded in the late ’70s, when TV had the edge. <br />5. Movies and television are better than music. He acknowledges that music has its hot spells, however. <br />6. Movies, TV, and music are all better than sports. People sells in supermarkets, and most supermarket shoppers are neither male nor sports-obsessed. <br />7. Anything is better than politics. <br />8. Nothing is better than the celebrity dead. Stolley wrote:<br /><br />"I did not understand this when Elvis died in 1977, a blunder not repeated when John Lennon was murdered in 1980. That cover was People's best-seller until Princess Diana's death in 1997.<br /><br />"The top 10 People sellers of all time also include the unexpected deaths of Princess Grace and John F. Kennedy, Jr. For any magazine, cover success with this grim but fascinating subject is as inevitable as … well, you know."George M. Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818413936028778734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79377637856211387622014-02-14T10:15:49.862-06:002014-02-14T10:15:49.862-06:00I beg your pardon,
I never promised you a rose ga...<i>I beg your pardon,<br /> I never promised you a rose garden.<br /> Along with the sunshine, <br /> There's gotta be a little rain sometimes.<br /> When you take, you gotta give, so live and let live, <br /> Or let go.<br /> I beg your pardon,<br /> I never promised you a rose garden.</i><br /><br />Happy Valentines Day to another self-absorbed Canadian.......and here I thought this was the exclusive province of Americans.lemondoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14606734670170393751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45516792590997940862014-02-14T10:00:14.877-06:002014-02-14T10:00:14.877-06:00All positivism without a drop of Goth makes for a ...All positivism without a drop of Goth makes for a fucked up worldview. harrogatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02026095215683554629noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66216552208766793372014-02-14T09:59:49.451-06:002014-02-14T09:59:49.451-06:00Drake never hit my radar or my ears, so I could gi...Drake never hit my radar or my ears, so I could give a flying flapdoodle about his "loss" of the cover of the Rolling Stone.<br /><br />Of course there is an old rock 'n roll song by Dr. Hook about "The Cover Of The Rolling Stone" from back in the 1970's. That's about the last time that any intelligent life cared what, or who, was on the cover of the Rolling Stone.Skeptical Voterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766112542617494866noreply@blogger.com