tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1372548092572680903..comments2024-03-28T18:13:47.413-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Our justice system demands that judgment be imposed but compassion available. Our beliefs dictate that justice be served but mercy be shown."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36984097149160207462009-08-23T15:36:04.455-05:002009-08-23T15:36:04.455-05:00I completely agree with what poster Elliott A said...I completely agree with what poster Elliott A said...<br /><br />"The people on the plane didn't get to die at home, and their families didn't have anything to bury. He doesn't deserve such a kindness." <br /><br />Terrorists and people who commit other acts of such extreme violence should not be candidates for any sort of mercy release. Even if they are sorry (which this man is NOT), they have to pay for their crimes. What this terrorist did tore apart more lives than we’ll ever know and now 21 years later, these wounds are being re-opened because of Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill’s thoughtless ruling.<br /><br />I am also offended by the following...<br /><br />"Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond told BBC Radio that it was wrong to assume that all those affected by the bombing were opposed to al-Megrahi's release.<br /><br />"I understand the huge and strongly held views of the American families, but that's not all the families who were affected by Lockerbie," Salmond said. "As you're well aware, a number of the families, particularly in the U.K., take a different view and think that we made the right decision." <br /><br />We Americans are not out for revenge... anyone, no matter where they live, would want JUSTICE for the murderer of their loved ones. MacAskill has failed all the families of those who died on December 21, 1988 and I hope it eats away at him for a long, long time.Blog Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07771423536726000025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59532024518293740362009-08-21T07:09:30.083-05:002009-08-21T07:09:30.083-05:00Jenifer, I like the way you think.Jenifer, I like the way you think.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2843778109269982462009-08-21T06:07:16.325-05:002009-08-21T06:07:16.325-05:00It's too damn perfect. We blow an Iranian jetl...It's too damn perfect. We blow an Iranian jetliner out of the air, killing everyone on board; <br /><br /><br />___________________<br />Jenifer<br /><a href="http://www.telekomx.mobi/lp1/iwaybpo/" rel="nofollow">Best Affordable Security Systems Suitable for Renters and Apartments, Business and RV</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562463406730777915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79834705813193761782009-08-21T04:02:56.074-05:002009-08-21T04:02:56.074-05:00Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the dea...<i>Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the death penalty would have eliminated a lot of suffering he now must undergo</i>.<br /><br />You know how you can tell when a person's suffering is worse than death? He kills himself to end the suffering. Looks like al Megrahi's still alive, so we can conclude he'd rather be alive than dead.<br /><br />Which means that not killing him was a mercy.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1885749897512669182009-08-21T03:22:23.767-05:002009-08-21T03:22:23.767-05:00This is far left legal criminal justice thinking w...This is far left legal criminal justice thinking winning its way into legal doctrine. It's getting to become the same here in the U.S. There are attorneys who believe people shouldn't even go to prison, or that being the victim of a crime is really not that big a deal.Lylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09082051710068390275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24636529966145087152009-08-20T23:28:30.450-05:002009-08-20T23:28:30.450-05:00If Bush and Blair were still in office, Libya woul...If Bush and Blair were still in office, Libya would have at least thought twice about having him greeted at the airport with a cheering crowd and the son of the dictator.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138730966226244399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56150473729385523372009-08-20T22:45:57.588-05:002009-08-20T22:45:57.588-05:00If we had a real American President he would have ...If we had a real American President he would have ordered the aircraft taking that scum back to Libya blown out of the sky over international airspace. What the Scots have done is commit a hostile act against the US. Or at least levy sanctions on Scottish exports to the US and on Scottish companies in the US.<br /><br />Cedaford you really are a tiresome one trick bigot pony. Be gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75857900551055556182009-08-20T19:12:17.068-05:002009-08-20T19:12:17.068-05:00former law student said...
Consider that humanel...<i>former law student said...<br /><br /> Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the death penalty would have eliminated a lot of suffering he now must undergo.</i><br /><br />Then let him suffering while incarcerated. Is that so hard to understand?Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42540860952395369922009-08-20T18:47:10.512-05:002009-08-20T18:47:10.512-05:00"omemiserum wrote:
Absolutely the right decis..."omemiserum wrote:<br />Absolutely the right decision. No doubt about it. We have Christian values and compassion is one of them. I am very proud that this decision was taken."<br /><br />================<br />"Christian values", falsely applied, will corrode societies moral codes and contracts in order to "make compassionate exceptions".<br /><br />We expect the rules that order our society to be enforced fairly and impartially. That contracts and covenents mean what they say. That we apply certainty to the enforcment and we achieve swift resolution of justice.<br /><br />We cannot exist for long if we make all law and contracts subject to years, decades long uncertainty in making rulings, carrying out law. We cannot exist if we make exceptions for some that we do not apply equally to all.<br /><br />Christian tradition, as well as Asian and Muslim - does allow The Ruler to make pardons.........but does not diffuse that power to any judge or official that "feels charitable".<br /><br />If you say that anyone with a life sentence should get out before they die, you effectively end "life imprisonment" as a punishment. <br /><br />If you let a butcher of 270 people go, then how can you object to any other prisoner with a terminal illness not getting a pass to freedom??<br /><br />If this is precedent, then the UK just ended a sentence of life in prison being true. <br />Kiddie rapist-killers.<br />Serial killers.<br />Heroin kingpins in London.<br />Any other terrorist.<br />Someone who defrauds 2 million Brits of half their pension account.<br /><br />----------<br />This is not Christian practice. It is Talmudic garbage of endless debate and due process to make lawyers help other lawyers be gainfully employed and alone decide day-to-day if a sentence a judge and jury made is appropriate.<br /><br /><b>It is profound moral weakness disguised as "caring".</b><br /> And most Muslims will see it that way. If the butcher of 270 infidels is let go, a good deal of Muslims will conclude it is because the other infidels fear the wrath of Allah, that they recognize how unfit infidels are to ever judge a superior Muslim outside Sharia Law, or conclude the Libyan was unfairly sentenced to start with.Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67989519539107567522009-08-20T18:34:26.188-05:002009-08-20T18:34:26.188-05:00Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the dea...<i>Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the death penalty would have eliminated a lot of suffering he now must undergo.<br /><br /></i>Considering your absolute predictability, I assume this is tongue-in-cheek and that you oppose the death penalty. Is the implication then that I equate justice with suffering?<br /><br />If so, I can only repeat: Ah, the infallible logic and ethics of the left on display for all.<br /><br />If not, so what?hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670099074010641958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75500789204612960592009-08-20T18:03:56.480-05:002009-08-20T18:03:56.480-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.hombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670099074010641958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85892482842808783822009-08-20T17:25:48.062-05:002009-08-20T17:25:48.062-05:00The thing could not go right right from the beginn...The thing could not go right right from the beginning.<br /><br />It was a terrorist act, aiming not to kill people so much as to make the largest possible news.<br /><br />The proper response was not some criminal action but a predator missle.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14301596862801553152009-08-20T17:07:16.552-05:002009-08-20T17:07:16.552-05:00Ah, the infallible logic and ethics of the left on...<i>Ah, the infallible logic and ethics of the left on display for all.<br /><br /></i>Consider that humanely euthanizing him via the death penalty would have eliminated a lot of suffering he now must undergo.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2562522716227961302009-08-20T16:13:53.703-05:002009-08-20T16:13:53.703-05:00ALE is right -- What Scotland is really doing is l...<i>ALE is right -- What Scotland is really doing is letting someone else pay for his end-of-life care. Dying of cancer is no walk in the park wherever it takes place.<br /><br /></i>Of course he is. And the only justice that is really important is "social justice" as defined as a core value by the body of American liberal elites. And anyway since when does a life sentence contemplate that the offender die in prison?<br /><br />Ah, the infallible logic and ethics of the left on display for all.<br /><br />WV lerakete - Obamacare, in Frenchhombrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12670099074010641958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54674125996883919772009-08-20T16:13:00.141-05:002009-08-20T16:13:00.141-05:00One of the victims was from the Toledo area, we di...One of the victims was from the Toledo area, we didn't know him well but knew his parents and brother very well. How they suffered.<br /><br />What a tragic loss. Had he stayed in the family business, he would likely be alive today. Instead he wanted to be a great architect, and he wanted to study in Europe.<br /><br />Hell should prepare a place for the newly freed bomber.save_the_rustbelthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15292805042626368911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77045194347374713962009-08-20T16:06:04.923-05:002009-08-20T16:06:04.923-05:00@Scott M - You are absolutely correct. The variou...@Scott M - You are absolutely correct. The various mechanisms for mercy I described appear to be characteristic of the western legal tradition through at least the 16th century. I did not mean to imply anything peculiar about Scotland. Such practices were, as I understand them, part of the English common and Roman-canon law as well.<br /><br />"Avowed" in this context (if we can trust Frederick Maitland) means that the recipients of mercy had first confessed (under oath, i.e. a vow) their guilt. Indeed, the logic of pardon and sanctuary required the confession of guilt. Otherwise, no mercy would be involved.just visitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449965134547485418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49422110770737944782009-08-20T15:50:55.754-05:002009-08-20T15:50:55.754-05:00Bullshit, and we all know it. Mass murderer getti...Bullshit, and we all know it. Mass murderer getting off on a technicality. He'll die at home a hero.NotWhoIUsedtoBehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568355742926021406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57053291748164559192009-08-20T15:50:25.633-05:002009-08-20T15:50:25.633-05:00That's because they had so many native killers...That's because they had so many native killers it was a national sport. I doubt many furriners got much mercy.<br /><br />WV mationt - what happens to a country after women get the vote.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18008055836830042012009-08-20T15:49:00.699-05:002009-08-20T15:49:00.699-05:00@just visiting
While you are technically correct,...@just visiting<br /><br />While you are technically correct, in the context of the current discussion you seem to be insinuating that those things cited were indicative of Scottish medieval law. It would be more correct to say that those things cited were indicative of western medieval law.<br /><br />If we were to take this any further, I suppose to would ask what an "avowed" murderer is in the context of medieval Europe, but that's another segue.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08871331702531675368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37331344284193015202009-08-20T15:39:13.883-05:002009-08-20T15:39:13.883-05:00Oddly enough, when (I suppose) "the fire"...Oddly enough, when (I suppose) "the fire" was still in "the race" - medieval Scottish law was actually rife with laws (rampant royal pardons, periodic blanket amnesties, and sanctuary in churches, for example) that allowed large numbers of avowed murderers to receive mercy and avoid punishment.just visitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449965134547485418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12865094432125618272009-08-20T15:20:49.288-05:002009-08-20T15:20:49.288-05:00Think the average Scot likes this decision? Absolu...<i>Think the average Scot likes this decision? Absolutely not.<br /></i>Yet they vote Labour, heavily. The fire seems to have left the race, as it did the Vikings.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29670797597741944942009-08-20T15:14:35.400-05:002009-08-20T15:14:35.400-05:00What a disgusting excuse the Scots have made to le...What a disgusting excuse the Scots have made to let this man go. Does being a leftist country know no bounds that you are willing to shit on the victims that this piece of ofal has killed for his political agenda? I'll kill him and do the world a favor.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59210205564996907272009-08-20T15:07:24.085-05:002009-08-20T15:07:24.085-05:00How much of this is mercy and how much BP (As in B...How much of this is mercy and how much BP (As in British Petroleum)<br /><br />BP just signed a multi-billion dollar exploration/exploitation agreement with Libya. <br /><br />I suppose it could be just coincidence. I suppose pigs can fly, too.<br /><br />http://www.electric.co.uk/news/bp-expanding-oil-interest-in-libya-12341083.html<br /><br />John Henry<br />www.changeover.com<br /><br />VW is apsol. Yeah, that sounds like about the right word to describe the judge. He is a real apsol.John henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78350556219197339852009-08-20T14:38:15.480-05:002009-08-20T14:38:15.480-05:00"It is not unthinkable that a society might a..."It is not unthinkable that a society might attain such a consciousness of power that it could allow itself the noblest luxury possible to it - letting those who harm it go unpunished. "What are my parasites to me?" it might say. "May they live and prosper: I am strong enough for that!"<br /><br />Nietzsche, The Genealogy of Morals, Second Essay, section 10.just visitinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449965134547485418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62306950733098415432009-08-20T14:21:07.718-05:002009-08-20T14:21:07.718-05:00Sloanasaurus, PA 103 was my bi-monthly business co...Sloanasaurus, PA 103 was my bi-monthly business commute flight from Europe to Detroit. I flew home for Christmas a week earlier on 103; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PA103cockpit4.png" rel="nofollow"> 4D </a> was my usual seat (forth window below the cockpit). Industry <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Fuller" rel="nofollow">colleagues</a> died on 103 and it could have been me. I'm fresh out of compassion. <br /><br />DBQ: <i>I say let him get his cancer treatment from the British Public Health Care option that Obama wants to foist upon us.</i><br /><br />Obviously the media doesn't see the irony in this story. The 5 yr survival rate for prostate cancer is 77% in the UK.BJMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04447134335568803085noreply@blogger.com