tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post1217397789701433229..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: Begging Michael Bloomberg — who just gave $80 million to the Democratic Party — to run for President but as a Republican.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2334370126987456212018-11-29T22:11:29.666-06:002018-11-29T22:11:29.666-06:00Bloomberg flushed millions of dollars into 501(c)(...Bloomberg flushed millions of dollars into 501(c)(4) anti-firearm sock puppet advocacy groups. And he's Jewish. So who seriously thinks he has any chance to become president?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14341576498315327700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46814378962883847342018-11-29T21:19:41.444-06:002018-11-29T21:19:41.444-06:00Gonna be easier for a pro-life candidate to win th...Gonna be easier for a pro-life candidate to win the Democrat nomination than for a gun-grabber to win the Republican nomination.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18523657611683721482018-11-29T19:16:21.467-06:002018-11-29T19:16:21.467-06:00"Backfire" is not a metaphor about guns ..."Backfire" is not a metaphor about guns or where they might be pointed. It is about gasoline igniting in an exhaust system of a vehicle or igniting prematurely in a cylinder. PJHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13874331363968664061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6552708547754331152018-11-29T16:41:00.591-06:002018-11-29T16:41:00.591-06:00Trump actually ran - and won! Overnight Bloomberg ...Trump actually ran - and won! Overnight Bloomberg went from making appearances on Celebrity Apprentice to whining that Trump is crazy. Yes, Trump's deregulation agenda must be annoying to Nanny Bloomberg, however, I suspect good old fashioned jealousy is the real motivator. In the tiny competitive world of billionaires they are all furious not to have been the first billionaire President. That third party ticket might get a little crowded with Cuban, Zuckerberg, Oprah.... cacimbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12474731176024102493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-234661859465101382018-11-29T16:09:18.742-06:002018-11-29T16:09:18.742-06:00@EDH, I followed your link and looked at the “Sin...@EDH, I followed your link and looked at the “Sin City” clip. In real life what would happen is that the cylindrical bar would shoot out the barrel at about 400 to 500 ft/sec, with the bullet following much more slowly. Or the barrel would explode.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88342366535709491602018-11-29T15:48:29.549-06:002018-11-29T15:48:29.549-06:00Bloomberg is pro choice, anti gun, pro jihadist, (...Bloomberg is pro choice, anti gun, pro jihadist, (his advisor was the father of the new mexico cell, which was training suicide bombers) pro amnesty, narcisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07128976398798678295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15183647478355221452018-11-29T15:07:14.675-06:002018-11-29T15:07:14.675-06:00Let's look at the possibilities.
1) Bloomberg...Let's look at the possibilities.<br /><br />1) Bloomberg runs as a Democrat, loses the primaries, but damages the eventual winner. Bad for Democrats.<br />2) Bloomberg wins the nomination, but loses to Trump. Bad for the Democrats.<br />3) Bloomberg forms 3rd party and drains more votes from Democrats than from Republicans. Bad for Democrats.<br />4) Bloomberg runs as Republican and loses the primaries. Probably doesn't do any more damage to Trump that is done every day in the media, but he doesn't damage the Democrats. <br />5) Bloomberg wins the Republican nomination. Yeah, right.JaimeRobertohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12080380710232902631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66830832098350627382018-11-29T14:59:45.642-06:002018-11-29T14:59:45.642-06:00There are 50+ candidates on the DNC starting line....There are 50+ candidates on the DNC starting line. Get one or two of them to run third party. Bloomberg would be great!<br /><br />(I can play the game, too)rehajmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554135440560051175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88533779468253974292018-11-29T14:54:11.308-06:002018-11-29T14:54:11.308-06:00You could call it extremism bullshit.
Pretty much...<i> You could call it extremism bullshit.</i><br /><br />Pretty much this. <br /><br />In many cases I think categorization of extremism are often objectively untrue if you look at the actual position of the person in question and compared it to the greater mainstream public opinion. <br /><br />A perfect example of that is categorizing anyone who wants to greatly reduce or eliminate illegal immigration as an "extremist". In fact, it's a virtual certainty that a clear majority of Americans would most likely agree that illegal immigration should be reduced or outright eliminated. True, individual people might disagree on how serious an issue it is and how specifically it should be dealt with. But just because a given politican or public figure talks about it as a problem does not actually make them as extremist or a xenophobic racist or whatever. Nonapodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04784387367088689624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60430323611102548352018-11-29T14:18:52.046-06:002018-11-29T14:18:52.046-06:00"you oppose the extremists on both sides"..."you oppose the extremists on both sides"<br /><br />Huh?<br /><br />As a Republican, Bloomberg was the extremist--on the extreme left of the party, so left he became a Dem, favoring Dem causes and politicos. I will leave it to Dems to decide if he is an extreme-right Dem.<br /><br />The GOP now revolves around Trump -- who himself is pretty moderate on social issues, has coopted liberal criticism of free trade, and could be mistaken for a let's-not-meddle isolationist.<br /><br />Anyway, charges of "extremism" are always a smear tactic used for political effect, rarely an accurate estimate of actual positions on an actual spectrum. You could call it extremism bullshit.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505631054204611033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3430554902236724802018-11-29T13:30:43.042-06:002018-11-29T13:30:43.042-06:00So, you're Bloomberg, and you oppose the extre...So, you're Bloomberg, and you oppose the extremists on both sides. Which is the best approach? I really don't know, and I can't imagine what he is thinking. Maybe he's thinking about who he wants to be seen with while he's spending his own money in support of his own cause. Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86182699546078057532018-11-29T13:27:27.707-06:002018-11-29T13:27:27.707-06:00If it's crazy versus crazy, Trump will win aga...If it's crazy versus crazy, Trump will win again. I think.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63855032742533896012018-11-29T13:26:51.496-06:002018-11-29T13:26:51.496-06:00"If the gun 'back fires' you get shot..."If the gun 'back fires' you get shot."<br /><br />That shows it was a bad metaphor in the first place. Bloomberg himself will not be hurt. What is the "backfiring" the columnist is talking about? Hurting the Democratic Party. If I accept the faulty metaphor, it's intended to mean that Bloomberg's target is Trump. But maybe not. I don't think Bloomberg would be for the new radical lefties trying to get control of the Democratic Party. I think he'd like Trump to be opposed by a strong moderate, so it's not crazy versus crazy in the 2020. What's the best path for that?Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32763961877680409762018-11-29T13:10:34.081-06:002018-11-29T13:10:34.081-06:00Bloomberg should give Trump $80M to join a third p...Bloomberg should give Trump $80M to join a third party.<br />Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14520113896946845614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35679139620571921062018-11-29T13:05:02.732-06:002018-11-29T13:05:02.732-06:00If the gun 'back fires' you get shot.
The...<i>If the gun 'back fires' you get shot.</i><br /><br />The gun may be pointing at you. The same "double" jeopardy does not exist with scalpels, vacuums, etc, which are strictly unidirectional devices.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25773593711419200472018-11-29T12:40:27.844-06:002018-11-29T12:40:27.844-06:00What difference does it make what you're aimin...What difference does it make what you're aiming at? If the gun 'back fires' you get shot.Limited bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672990516665976384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19900468044981843342018-11-29T12:23:13.598-06:002018-11-29T12:23:13.598-06:00I have it on good authority Nikki Haley is going t...I have it on good authority Nikki Haley is going to primary Trump in 2020 and nobody else need bother.Jim athttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02271099587684174816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73462094864960749332018-11-29T12:09:55.116-06:002018-11-29T12:09:55.116-06:00"I don't see Democrats splintering much a..."I don't see Democrats splintering much as long as Trump is president."<br /><br /><br />You don't know many Democrats, do you?<br /><br />MikeMBungehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15806494052125869906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15716243382653875262018-11-29T12:09:01.200-06:002018-11-29T12:09:01.200-06:00I'm trying to imagine an opponent Trump would ...I'm trying to imagine an opponent Trump would have more fun with in the primaries than Bloomberg. Kasich? No, he could at least command some establishment GOP support. Flake? No, Trump would dispatch him after the New Hampshire primary. Bill Kristol? Maybe, but it'd be too easy.<br /><br />MikeMBungehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15806494052125869906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48198282004271385142018-11-29T12:07:40.356-06:002018-11-29T12:07:40.356-06:00Do guns backfire? Cars used to. Firefighters use &...<i>Do guns backfire? Cars used to. Firefighters use "backfires" to create a firebreak in a forest fire. But a gun? Not familiar with the expression. <br /><br />Perhaps it comes from lack of knowledge of guns? </i><br /><br />You THINK?!?!?Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19833162109597161512018-11-29T12:05:23.920-06:002018-11-29T12:05:23.920-06:00Bloomberg can fund the third party I'm looking...<i>Bloomberg can fund the third party I'm looking for: The Boring Party.</i><br /><br />@Althouse, how lacking in self-awareness are you?Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43166970515135549332018-11-29T11:59:21.687-06:002018-11-29T11:59:21.687-06:00Yes, if Bloomberg wants to help elect a Democrats ...Yes, if Bloomberg wants to help elect a Democrats in 2020, his "fusion" party would have to lean right. If Bloomberg were the nominee, he would emphasize his business background and his pragmatism on issues like crime, and his running mate would be an anti-Trump conservative. Honestly, though, I don't think Bloomberg could win over very many disaffected Republicans. He's too closely associated with nanny state liberalism and, on a deeper level, all his anti-gun activism signals a cultural incompatibility with conservatives. A person can be moderately pro-gun control but otherwise conservative. Bloomberg is basically a fanatic on the issue and people on the Right would likely think Bloomberg hated them.<br /><br />Frankly, the only way I can see a viable third party making noise in 2020 is if conservatives decide Trump is more trouble than he's worth. If that happens, and a primary challenge fails, maybe Romney and others put together a third party candidacy.<br /><br />Despite all their huge divisions, I don't see Democrats splintering much as long as Trump is president. He's a unifying threat.blehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463010473842132191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75844606986290208102018-11-29T11:56:15.445-06:002018-11-29T11:56:15.445-06:00(eaglebeak)
There's a thing called charisma, ...(eaglebeak)<br /><br />There's a thing called charisma, and Bloomberg doesn't have it. Neither did Hillary. Obama did (he seems to have misplaced it) and Trump does.<br /><br />Trump v. Bloomberg would be a walkover, not least because Trump is about a foot taller than Bloomberg and could practically step over him.Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18214604215791635151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16386871751076605162018-11-29T11:50:04.857-06:002018-11-29T11:50:04.857-06:00"What chance does a five-foot-seven billionai..."What chance does a five-foot-seven billionaire Jew who’s divorced really have of becoming president?" asked one Michael R. Bloomberg to a reporter in 2006.<br /><br />Of course, divorced and billionaire aren't deal-breakers these days.<br /><br />Jew? Depends. Not prohibitive, probably a hindrance at the margins.<br /><br />Five-foot-seven? Forget it. Not since McKinley. Picture the poor guy up on the stage with Trump, and guess Trump's moniker for him.JPShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09413052994164641967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4824173849597767812018-11-29T11:39:19.289-06:002018-11-29T11:39:19.289-06:00Darkisland wrote:
"He says Bloomberg is form...Darkisland wrote:<br /><br />"<i>He says Bloomberg is forming a 3rd party, a fusion party of him and a dem. He mentioned Biden. He says that Bloomberg has committed $100mm to doing this. He is worth $33 billion so that isn't even couch change for him.</i>" <br /><br />This would be a disaster for Bloomberg- a "fusion party" would have to be with an actual Republican. Kasich <i>might</i> be sufficient, but even that isn't certain- a fusion with Biden would just be a second Democratic Party ticket, and would likely ensure Trumps easy reelection.Yancey Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16427042729449397357noreply@blogger.com