tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post115841653080331044..comments2024-03-19T03:55:23.248-05:00Comments on Althouse: Comments, comments, comments.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger125125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158688410696903252006-09-19T12:53:00.000-05:002006-09-19T12:53:00.000-05:00I'm closing down this comments thread, because I d...I'm closing down this comments thread, because I don't have time to keep monitoring this controversy, and, as you know, I'm tired of it. I'm not going to say anything more about it, so if by chance anyone thinks not enough has been said, they'll have to locate another place to express themselves. I think that will be easy.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158625378756411232006-09-18T19:22:00.000-05:002006-09-18T19:22:00.000-05:00Joined the kerfuffle late because I was sick all w...Joined the kerfuffle late because I was sick all weekend.<BR/><BR/>I know he's retreated by now, but one thing stuck in my craw:<BR/><BR/>Parry wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>And what do you mean that it's something she "didn't do?" I plainly QUOTED the parts of Althouse's posts that I found offensive. What more do you want?</I><BR/><BR/>Well, for a start, you could learn what the word "lying" means. You characterized Ann as lying about the contents of the Feministing blog. She didn't.<BR/><BR/>The fact that she takes away a different impression from something doesn't make her assessment a lie. It makes it an opinion, and if she's sincere about it, then it's a true opinion... and not a lie.<BR/><BR/>It can be an opinion that doesn't accurately reflect Jessica's <B>intention</B>, but that's still not a lie.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, like too many on the left, you fail to distinguish between "I disagree" (or "you're mistaken") and "you're lying".<BR/><BR/>(See: <I>Bush lied</I> meme)<BR/><BR/>When you do so, your credibility drops to near-zero in my book.<BR/><BR/>Ann even qualified the observation by noting that <B>apparently</B> the blog was 'of that kind'. I read that to mean that it appeared that way <B>to her</B>.<BR/><BR/>She's entitled to that opinion. Calling it a lie is not logically justifiable. You don't know Ann's mind, so you don't know if she believes it to be true or not. You may find some of her opinions in this matter coarse, insulting, or even undeserved. You have a right to have such an opinion, too.<BR/><BR/>The difference is, I don't see anyone calling you a liar just because they disagree with your assessment of something. The opposite of "correct and entirely true" is not necessarily "lying", after all. Is there room in your philosophy for "different opinion", or even just "wrong"?<BR/><BR/>Ann drew some conclusions on follow-up based on her viewing of the Feministing site, and put that together with the context that I believe you admitted you were lacking (re: Clinton's <B>many-pointed</B> spotty history with respect to sexual misconduct).<BR/><BR/>Can you see how Jessica's protestations might seem disingenuous to some when viewed through such a filter?<BR/><BR/>I'm not asking for you to agree that the appearance is reality... I'm just asking to see if you can recognize that others might view a situation differently than yourself... without necessarily being a liar.<BR/><BR/>(There, that feels better having gotten it off my chest... and stop looking at it! ;)VekTorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09884547607158702582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158515924394782952006-09-17T12:58:00.000-05:002006-09-17T12:58:00.000-05:00Re: john(lesser)Right to Privacy? Her husband was ...Re: john(lesser)<BR/><BR/><I>Right to Privacy? Her husband was the one that blogged about it. Whatever happened in that bar is completely germane.</I><BR/><BR/>Uh, this is <I>the internet.</I> This is not like waiving privilege in court. When I say "right to privacy," I mean only that they're under no obligation whatsoever to explain anything at all if they prefer not to, not that there's a Constitutional right of some sort implicated by a completely informal blog discussion. That would be awfully silly.<BR/><BR/><I>Sounds to me like a rehashing of yesterday's events. You can not demand attention and simultaneously control the type of attention you get.</I><BR/><BR/>Certainly. And the Scalzis are apparently not at all bothered by the commentary -- they are more amused than anything. I'm just pointing out that the picture we have is incomplete, and drawing conclusions on the basis of an incomplete story leads to wrong conclusions. Garbage in, garbage out, as they say.Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158514477876336862006-09-17T12:34:00.000-05:002006-09-17T12:34:00.000-05:00I continue to stand by my comments and to assert -...I continue to stand by my comments and to assert -- with ever increasing confidence -- that my opponents all have some combination of: poor reading skills, lack of a sense of humor, anti-feminism, calcified political hackitude. Moreover, they've got some scary blindness about the way to help poor Hillary Clinton, who was the whole reason they were wrangled into Bill's presence in the first place. Bumbling all weekend over Jessica's breasts? You people are boobs.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158514003220161742006-09-17T12:26:00.000-05:002006-09-17T12:26:00.000-05:00Although I doubt Theo's self-professed progressive...Although I doubt Theo's self-professed progressiveness, I thought I would respond. President's Clinton's accomplishments can are detailed here: http://tinyurl.com/kd4ao. This is his legacy which you brush off and compare to the Republican Harding. However, they are something to marvel when compared to the current President. I also posted reasons why a feminist would still support President Clinton because Ann was confused on why her acrid attacks were misunderstood. Her reasoning was flawed (not unlike many lawyers) but Theo gleefully answers "all of which any minimally competent President should have done". I however list the how the current administration's policies have truly hurt woman. Should Theo's logic then lead us to judging the current administration as incompetent? Of course not because he's a different kind of "progressive". He then concludes with oft-repeated mantra of conservatives that President Clinton's "sexual misdeeds symbolized much more than his just having a fling" which I think Ann and he both agree. One only has to remember the dead Americans floating in the water in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans to become disgusted with Ann and Theo's arguments. How long must the blowjob be discussed by supposed feminists? Over the last thirteen years (and probably longer but let's leave it at that), a young feminist should without qualification support the former President's policies. Ann's readers deserve an apology just for her flawed logic without speaking to her bitter tongue.peetyporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07998386964358548408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158511202301325882006-09-17T11:40:00.000-05:002006-09-17T11:40:00.000-05:00So the score now: Boobs - 502 comments, Spinach sc...So the score now: Boobs - 502 comments, Spinach scare - 19. Talk about missplaced priorities!Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07534770148399770563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158507739950523752006-09-17T10:42:00.000-05:002006-09-17T10:42:00.000-05:00I'm surpassingly sick of this comments thread from...<I>I'm surpassingly sick of this comments thread from yesterday, and I'm not even going to read all the commentary on other blogs. The immense tiresomeness is actually undermining my will to blog this morning.</I><BR/><BR/>Cause of the "immense tiresomeness"?<BR/><BR/>It makes one very weary to keep pretending you were right after having your bitchy catty comment so demonstrably flayed.dmbeasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682817766992251296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158507396215029622006-09-17T10:36:00.000-05:002006-09-17T10:36:00.000-05:00I've looked but can't find any references to wheth...I've looked but can't find any references to whether the photo was staged, or not. Did someone place Jessica and her breasts prominently in the front row, or did she choose that spot herself? <BR/><BR/>We have not even covered ageism, but that's only because Jess doesn't blog in defense of age. Ironically, her allies are some of the first to invoke it themselves, failing to notice that she may have been strategically placed dead-on center of that pic to balance and round out the group of dowdy (middle-aged looking) types.<BR/><BR/>It is a luxury of the young(er) to be indulged with interpreting criticism regarding their immaturity or lack of knowledge from people 10-20 years older with "jealousy" of their youth.<BR/><BR/>Playing the "you're just jealous of meeeeeee because I'm young!!!!" card is old.Guessthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12960564221241989396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158506298115706852006-09-17T10:18:00.000-05:002006-09-17T10:18:00.000-05:00Second Biggest Loser: Feminism, the cause Jessica ...<B>Second Biggest Loser: Feminism,</B> the cause Jessica alleges to support. Joust as it does black America no good to be seen as a captive of the DNC orbit, it provides Feminism, no gain to be seen as:<BR/><BR/>1. a captive of the DNC. <BR/><BR/>2. without principles<BR/><BR/>3. willing to accept workplace harassment, if the harasser is otherwise supportive of women. Packwood redux?The Drill SGThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394309533144027391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158505274975863872006-09-17T10:01:00.000-05:002006-09-17T10:01:00.000-05:00Susannah said:You brought up her tits, whipped eve...Susannah said:<BR/><BR/><EM>You brought up her tits, whipped everyone up in a frenzy and then claimed that everyone was “just boring the hell out of you” because you were called on the fact that you brought up her tits. </EM><BR/><BR/>Actually I think that Victoria's Secret bra she was wearing brought those puppies up before Ann did. And I am certain Bill loved her for it.NSChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15429501160697206409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158503240226485302006-09-17T09:27:00.000-05:002006-09-17T09:27:00.000-05:00Derve: Thanks. Note that Friday's "closer look" po...Derve: Thanks. Note that Friday's "closer look" post floated the theory that Jessica is a Karl Rove dirty trick. <BR/><BR/>Drill Sgt: Speaking of hurting Hillary, the attacks on me as a jealous older woman don't resonate too well with Hillary's interests. Nor does the weird support for the advantage of being younger and sexier.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158500031589598912006-09-17T08:33:00.000-05:002006-09-17T08:33:00.000-05:00My summary of the Clinton/Feminist/Bra-ha-ha1. Bi...My summary of the Clinton/Feminist/Bra-ha-ha<BR/><BR/><B>1. Biggest Loser: Hillary</B> The blogfest was intended to get left wing bloggers more in tune with Hillary (meeting was set up by Her internet publicist, not Bill's) in order to promote Hillary blog buzz. Instead, the public was again reminded about both what a world class cad and sleazy guy Bill is, and how many feminists sacrificed their principles and gender loyalty on the altar of Democratic party unity defending Bill on sexual harassment charges. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and a meeting with the "First Black President" in his "Harlem" office that was whiter than if it had been done at Lamont's Country Club in CT? bad PR, very bad.<BR/><BR/><B>2. Biggest Winner: Jessica</B> Huge attention to her breasts and blog by people, mostly positive on the left, all over the blogosphere. <BR/><BR/>all in all Daou, a poor show for your client.The Drill SGThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16394309533144027391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158497525613121152006-09-17T07:52:00.000-05:002006-09-17T07:52:00.000-05:00Theo Boehm said... Say, Ann, you do this for fun? ...<B>Theo Boehm said... <BR/>Say, Ann, you do this for fun?<BR/> <BR/>........ </B><BR/><BR/>If my post had audio, the sound you would here is me clapping wildly. I didn't quote this whole post, but, if you missed it, go back and find it. <BR/><BR/>Oh, I don't agree with everything he said, but I certainly appreciate hearing a non-partisian discussion of issues from someone who admits to a political preference. If more of us could do that ....<BR/><BR/>Bill Clinton's legacy? Please - at best he was a mediocre president. He COULD have been a great one, but his own personal demons - coupled with the willingness of others to cater to those demons - allowed him to focus on style over substance. <BR/><BR/>I would absolutely prefer an administration that promotes women on merit to high ranking positions than one that treats them as Clinton's administration did. Feminism is about more than a uterus. <BR/><BR/>Personal story - Near the end of the Clinton Administration, I attended a luncheon with other social service agency reps. One woman at my table - a committed liberal - surprised me by saying that she couldn't wait for a Republican administration. I assumed that she must be a McCain fan, but she said she didn't care who won.<BR/><BR/>Professionally she worked with the homeless. She said if a Republican won, people could stop pretending that homelessness didn't exist.OhioAnnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719352684331738275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158496332192316012006-09-17T07:32:00.000-05:002006-09-17T07:32:00.000-05:00Susannah: "But let's be honest Ann, you are pissed...Susannah: "But let's be honest Ann, you are pissed because the Feministing girl is young and pretty and....well...your not so much..."<BR/><BR/>Are you so ignorant about feminism that you don't realize that is a sexist argument? Ageist too. Apparently, you're such a partisan hack you don't even remember the purported values of the party you're trying to help. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure Hillary Clinton appreciates your nitwit support. I'd love to hear your analysis of her mental processes!Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158494531907871102006-09-17T07:02:00.000-05:002006-09-17T07:02:00.000-05:00Belledame: ""I AM ATTACKING YOU AND WOULD GREATLY ...Belledame: ""I AM ATTACKING YOU AND WOULD GREATLY PREFER THAT WE KEEP THE FOCUS ON YOU..."<BR/><BR/>That's supposed to represent what I was doing? You've plainly distorted the facts... oh, I'd say about 180°. I kept saying I wanted to talk about Clinton, not Jessice. So, is that your usual technique? Everything about your comment is twisted and ignorant and slurring. So you have absolutely zero credibility. I assume you're another dopey, inept political hack. And, like so many of the others, your words are crammed with sexism. Nice show. <BR/><BR/>I'm sure the Clintons love the fine support you and other loose cannons are giving them on the internet. Is this really what Peter Daou is working to achieve? Remember, Hillary Clinton needs moderates to like her. Hardcore Democrats showing their faith like this isn't going to help with that. This blog attracts moderate readers. Screetching at me is... well, it's pretty dumb.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158485310034844672006-09-17T04:28:00.000-05:002006-09-17T04:28:00.000-05:00Say, Ann, you do this for fun?As usual, Johnny Nuc...Say, Ann, you do this for <I>fun?</I><BR/><BR/>As usual, Johnny Nucleo, above, nailed it. I must say I remain, if not mystified by the current political <I>Zeitgeist</I>, at least disappointed.<BR/><BR/>I am disappointed because, like Ann, I used to think of myself as a fairly progressive person, identified with the Democratic Party, and considered it the natural party of governance in this country. But the "rhetoric," if it can be called that, that has come from partisan Democrats in recent years is beyond belief. Now, I don't mind old-fashioned rock-'em sock-'em partisan attacks at the right time (e.g., "Poor George. He can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth...."), but the hate-filled slime that oozes these days leaves me wanting to take a shower. If things continue like this into November, I'll need two weeks in a spa.<BR/><BR/>This kerfluffle and the recent troubles here over the 9/11 miniseries have obvious hallmarks of an organized campaign. Some Democrats want to intimidate or at least tone down an influencial blogger. I've made a few half-joking remarks elsewhere about the possibility of robo-commenters or bots doing the dirty work: They are relentless; they take a few key words or phrases and distort them to fit a narrow range of talking points; they have an all-too-predictable obscenity-filled repotoire of insults; and they seem like they would fail a Turing Test, i.e, no human being on the other end. Actually, it's not very likely that anyone has to go to the expense of automating blog writing or commenting. There seem to be plenty of willing keyboard warriors, Turing Test failures or not. But where do they come from? Why are they appearing here at this time?<BR/><BR/>An election is coming up, and the blogosphere is increasingly important to partisan politics. It should come as no surprise that there would be organized efforts. Netroots and all that. I am really sorry, though, that this had to happen in the way it did. I mean, <I>Bill Clinton? Bill Clinton's legacy?</I> Give me a break.<BR/><BR/>I could vote for Senator Clinton in a heartbeat, because I happen to largely agree with her positions. But let's face it: Bill Clinton is Warren Harding with an I.Q. Why waste the effort on that clown? Does the Left really have that much invested in him? Now there is a great deal to be said for doing nothing, and Clinton certainly specialized in that, despite Peetyport's catalogue of "accomplishments," all of which any minimally competent President should have done. I had no real disagreement with any of Bill Clinton's policies, insofar as he had any. I just objected to Bill Clinton.<BR/><BR/>Bill Clinton's sexual misdeeds symbolized much more than his just having a fling, despite the efforts at the time to paint it as "European" and somehow sophisticated<BR/><BR/>A personal story: My wife holds an advanced degree from the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, one of a small number of schools that offer serious professional preparation for the Foreign Service and related fields. She worked in Washington for a time and enjoyed her work and the city. But she ultimately gave up the career she had gone to so much trouble to prepare for. Why? One of the reasons was the pervasive atmosphere of sexual harassment, even, or perhaps especially at the higher levels of the State Department and other agencies. Now my wife is Ann's age, so this was some time ago. We can hope things are different today. I have heard similar stories, though, from many women of a certain age. Some persevered. One, with similar training, has even become Secretary of State. But why must a woman have become a steel butterfly to succeed in Washington? One big reason was to simultaneously deal with and fend off the Bill Clintons of this world. The spectacle of so many "progressives" tossing aside every feminist principle and rushing to Clinton's defense still borders on the surreal. <BR/><BR/>I did not want to get too incensed writing this, but the very thought of him makes me want to go take that shower.<BR/><BR/>So, yes, I agree with Ann on this one. And no, I wouldn't mind another President Clinton. Maybe we'll have better luck this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158480652717569042006-09-17T03:10:00.000-05:002006-09-17T03:10:00.000-05:00Y'all will have to forgive Ann. Her knuckles drag ...Y'all will have to forgive Ann. Her knuckles drag along the ground when she walks...Dominionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16865751130999163721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158476996109123932006-09-17T02:09:00.000-05:002006-09-17T02:09:00.000-05:00I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the comments her...I have thoroughly enjoyed reading the comments here and at Feministing, they have been most entertaining.<BR/><BR/>But let's be honest Ann, you are pissed because the Feministing girl is young and pretty and....well...your not so much. I don't mean that in the totally insulting way it sounds, but you are like a million other women who feel that with minimal make-up, page-boy type haircut and bland clothes they will be taken seriously. It is nearly impossible for you to accept that a woman can be taken seriously if she looks like a woman. <BR/><BR/>You brought up her tits, whipped everyone up in a frenzy and then claimed that everyone was “just boring the hell out of you” because you were called on the fact that you brought up her tits. <BR/><BR/>Your abrasive, shock-value, hyper-superior attitude/persona is no different than that of Ann Coulter. And from the way I see it, you're just stealing her act.SusannahFentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223767590894968750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158475076080249732006-09-17T01:37:00.000-05:002006-09-17T01:37:00.000-05:00Well we can start with:"Former President Clinton c...Well we can start with:<BR/><BR/>"Former President Clinton certainly advanced the liberty, safety, health, and economic interests of women. First, Clinton reversed the abortion gag rule on federally-supported domestic reproductive health services; this and collateral pro-choice appointments and prosecutions slowed the erosion of the right to abortion. Second, he signed the Violence Against Women Act into law. Third, he signed the Family and Medical Leave Act into law. Fourth, he supported increases in research spending on women's health issues and diseases. Fifth, although somewhat belatedly, he helped win an increase in the minimum wage (two-thirds of minimum wage workers are women).<BR/><BR/>Ann can try to raise indignation to Clinton's perceived crimes but I find that funny coming from a law blog. Here's a good start on the current administration: http://tinyurl.com/gx9xe. This is just the tip of the iceberg. For Ann to attack this young woman and then accuse everyone of missing her "high-minded" point is laughable. Former President Clinton has joined these left-of-center bloggers and has embraced the new media. He's a smart man who adapted and embraced the technology which is admirable. Although I don't always agree, I enjoy reading Feministing for it's fresh perspective; I read Althouse for views of a dim legal mind.peetyporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07998386964358548408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158472061280133742006-09-17T00:47:00.000-05:002006-09-17T00:47:00.000-05:00Here's the thing you guys don't get.Let's say you'...Here's the thing you guys don't get.<BR/><BR/>Let's say you're right. You're not, but let's say you are. That's not enough. You have to be eloquent. You guys just aren't eloquent. You are all hyper and all over the place. You got a point to make, make it, but be eloquent. I don't know what the hell you are saying other than you disagree with Ann and it really pisses you off.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12643996886903710573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158470801373082292006-09-17T00:26:00.000-05:002006-09-17T00:26:00.000-05:00Tiresome. Yes indeed.You had no substantive criti...Tiresome. Yes indeed.<BR/><BR/>You had no substantive critique. 1) No one CARES about bloody Clinton and his penis anymore; well, no one who isn't already rather unhealthily fixated in any number of ways 2) that wasn't even your point to begin with.<BR/><BR/>What happened was, Jessica wandered by, caught you in a "meow" moment and asked, rather graciously and openly, that you please knock it the fuck off; it's hurtful. Not only do you NOT back down or even go, "okay, out of line, moving right along," you up the ante and push back on her like any other two-bit bully:<BR/><BR/>"Why don't you defend yourself?"<BR/><BR/>What a question, eh?<BR/><BR/>and then relentlessly onto the tits, the tits, the tits; really, woman, one might start to think you have a bit of a lech for the woman yourself. Harassment, certainly, this is. Whatever it is: it is fucked. <BR/><BR/>"I AM ATTACKING YOU AND WOULD GREATLY PREFER THAT WE KEEP THE FOCUS ON YOU, BECAUSE ANY POINTING OUT OF -MY- PART IN THIS IS LIKE AN MORTAL ATTACK ON MY FRAGILE LITTLE EGO. I DON'T DESERVE SUCH TREATMENT! I'M NOT LIKE YOU! I DON'T LIKE PAIN! IT HURTS ME! C'MON, LET'S PLAY MORE!! GIVE ME SOMETHING ELSE TO WORK WITH SO I CAN -REALLY- GET MY TEETH INTO YOU! "DEFEND" YOURSELF! BECAUSE GODDAM DO I EVER LIKE BEING OFFENSIVE!"<BR/><BR/>...and now, NOW, the rest of the world calls you on your shit, and oh whine whine it's tiresome.<BR/><BR/>No: -you're- tiresome.<BR/><BR/>And hateful.<BR/><BR/>And vapid.<BR/><BR/>And a hypocrite.<BR/><BR/>And a misogynist.<BR/><BR/>And petty, and venal, and just generally awful.<BR/><BR/>And you have earned every one of these flames. With interest.<BR/><BR/>Deal with it. And be thankful that some people -still- aren't willing to go as low as you.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158467900033135282006-09-16T23:38:00.000-05:002006-09-16T23:38:00.000-05:00What is the standard by which we should measure wh...<I> What is the standard by which we should measure whether Clinton advanced the cause of fairness and equality for women?</I><BR/><BR/>Gosh, you're making it harder than it is.<BR/><BR/>I think it's reasonable to assume that the standard at least includes the following: <BR/><BR/>don't claim to take women seriously and care about their advancement in society, and then abuse, in various ways, women you come in contact with. Especially in situations where you are their boss and wield power over them.<BR/><BR/>If caught doing any of the above, don't allow a whole bunch of women to make idiots of themselves coming to your defense.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and don't rape anyone while you're at it.knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231876226573540476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158464472435107062006-09-16T22:41:00.000-05:002006-09-16T22:41:00.000-05:00Calling All Feminists: Your Chance To Change The ...<A HREF="http://ambivablog.typepad.com/ambivablog/2006/09/calling_all_fem.html" REL="nofollow">Calling All Feminists: Your Chance To Change The Fate of 80 Million Women</A>reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158462732995229882006-09-16T22:12:00.000-05:002006-09-16T22:12:00.000-05:00dklittl: I'm going to keep blogging about whatever...dklittl: I'm going to keep blogging about whatever interests me. The people who are being vicious here, against whom I will defend myself, are trying to push me back and intimidate me from talking about politics. I don't like that it gets unpleasant either, but I'm not going to cede this ground to those who are willing to act like this. And I feel very strongly about not ceding the issue of feminism to people who see it as a subcomponent of Democratic politics.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1158461172251828482006-09-16T21:46:00.000-05:002006-09-16T21:46:00.000-05:00Weak, Whetstone. Very weak. You stink. This ain...Weak, Whetstone. Very weak. You stink. This ain't DU or LGF. Get some skills.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12643996886903710573noreply@blogger.com