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The London Times reports.“The situation is of course not simple,” Putin said before the negotiations began. “We will do everything that depends on us to ensure the safety of the negotiation process and mediators such as yourselves,” he added....
Afterwards, Witkoff thanked Putin for the “incredible memories” from the visits to the Russian capital. “We were all talking about when we retire, we’ll have all these incredible stories and incredible memories, and yours will be right at the top of it all,” he told Putin....
Yuri Ushakov, a Kremlin aide, told reporters... “The talks went beyond a mere exchange of views on resolving the Ukrainian crisis. Economic issues and potential major, mutually beneficial Russian-American projects were discussed in some detail.”
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I want to have a detente with Russia so bad. I wish we had never pushed them into this war.
Russia and the US are natural allies, culturewise.
"pushed them"
"natural allies"
Funny.
"we" pushed them?
Ushakov, a Putin aide, stated (according to Sky News) : "Economic issues and potential major, mutually beneficial Russian-American projects were discussed in some detail."
No surprise there.
The only reason Americans should be in the room with Putin is to remove him from the face of the earth. Instead we send a couple real estate buffoons to make deals for themselves with land that isn’t theirs.
It used to be the best way to ensure the safety of the negotiation process and mediators was to transport them using a catering truck but that's no good anymore.
The corrupt Biden regime ... was at the helm when this thing started. Never forget the Biden family's corrupt ties to Ukraine.
Putin is a loathsome for-life KGB Soviet authoritarian, but Ukraine is still corrupt, too. It's a hot mess.
Interesting that the EU cannot, will not and did not - do a damn thing to end a war in their own backyard.
The Summer after Slavic Spring.
Incredible memories? WTF!
Trump continues to do cleanup after Obama's slop, Biden's flops. Here's to a Summer after ethnic Springs, trans Affairs, etc.
This is Trump and the Republican Party’s “special envoy” tasked with bringing about an end to Putin’s war of aggression- exactly who they wanted because this Republican administration is on the side of Russia and Putin.
"Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff tells Vladimir Putin, whose invading army has killed hundreds of thousands of people, raped and pillaged while waging the largest and bloodiest war on European soil since World War II, “when we retire, we’ll have all these incredible stories and memories, and yours will be right at the top of it all.”https://x.com/Kremlinpool_RIA/status/2096296876370755637?s=20
I'm sure the quotes are real. ////
IEE(D) lies:
"this Republican administration is on the side of Russia and Putin."
Complete LIE. Now tell us about Hillary's private server , set up and used while she was Secretary of State, and how she used it to hide her backroom deals with the Russians - -to successfully stuff Clinton Foundation coffers.
Then Hillary and MSNBC-Maddow and Adam Schitt(D) - began the bullshit Trump / Russia Russia Russia lies.
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ does not believe diplomats should use diplomacy.
Noted.
You know, you don't have to pick a horse in every race, and then pretend that it's favorite horse.
Begley & Bagoh20: Thumbs up.
Are Witkoff and Kushner serious diplomats? Have they been up to now? Have they ever been serious peacemakers? Of course, "serious diplomats" aren't as respected as they once may have been, but I do wish the president understood that nobody else thinks as highly of Jared as he and Ivanka do.
Kushner and the Abraham Accords. Look it up.
It's funny to listen to leftwing American lying liar Democrat soviets whine about Russia.
If I were a diplomat, I would have in mind a core set of things that needed to be said clearly. I would also have at the ready several bits of fluffy monologue that would fill the time I needed to get out of the room without making a mistake.
It's the same thing as these thuggish Nazi destructive arsonist thuggish "antifa" thugs - paid for with Soros and extremist leftist international funding - but somehow they ae "anti-fascist" LOL.
F off.
Biden Walz and Kamala - Diplomats!
Perhaps Walz can bring his private assassin?
I understand Russia flew a drone right through German airspace and landed it unexploded right next to a Ukrainian transport flight loaded with weapons intended to strike Russia.
False flag or warning? On the theory of never letting a crisis go to waste, even if you have to make one yourself, the Germans are planning to establish a comprehensive surveillance state.
A lot of people think it’s a false flag, I am not so sure.
We are playing with nuclear war on two fronts, one thanks to senile Joe Biden, which the Democrats back to the hilt, even that Sayed guy in Michigan, and one started by a possibly senile, and certainly erratic, Donald Trump, that the Israel Firsters like Tel Aviv Ted Cruz and much of the Republican establishment back to the hilt.
Nobody should be able to start a term as President over the age of Seventy.
“ Afterwards, Witkoff thanked Putin for the “incredible memories” from the visits to the Russian capital. “We were all talking about when we retire, we’ll have all these incredible stories and incredible memories, and yours will be right at the top of it all,” he told Putin....”
Nauseating. Good luck getting the smell of brimstone out of your clothes, guys.
"... nobody else thinks as highly of Jared as he and Ivanka do."
"The Abraham Accords (2020) were a historic accomplishment that continues to hold unlikely Middle East nations together as allies. It was negotiated through a core U.S. team that was unconventional and White House–centered rather than State Department–led
Jared Kushner — Senior Advisor to President Trump; widely described as the principal architect and closer." ~ Grok
The Accords accomplished what conventional diplomats never could, despite decades of attempts. The problem needed "serious diplomats" like a fish needs a bicycle.
Condeleesa Rice said on a podcast in 2023 that negotiations with Russia to end the war weren't possible. So, the follow up question that wasn't asked would be, "so, then, what?" Keep fighting until every one on both sides is dead? The Center Left concept of the war in Ukraine is ludicrously stupid as evidenced by the ridiculous foreign policy of Biden's handlers. I'm not optimistic that it can be settled while Putin is alive, but at least Trump has been trying.
Most of the ME are sick to death of Hamas and the Iranian backwater tyrannical bully boys.
Hey, you can't go around solving problems and negotiating peace. The feckless serial failure community didn't give you permission.
I guess the diplomatic thing would be to publicly tell Putin Moscow smells like a sewer and that Russia is a really ugly nation. Some think that's good diplomacy, because the important thing is to childishly vent and virtue signal. Maybe they can now go to Ukraine and then tell us all how corrupt the place is. That's how you negotiate peace, am I right?
“ Lance said...
"pushed them"
"natural allies"
Funny”
Yes, exactly
Bagoh 1:14 - heh.
pray for peace
never give up
It's a slow news day, so Ms. Althouse serves up a slow pitch for the usual meatballs to work out on. Heaven forbid, the Secretary of State and special envoys conducting peace discussions using standard advance protocols. The Horror!
With the US funding having been cut off, and the EU busy with their de-industrialization and re-population experiments, money is getting harder to come by for the Ukranians. Maybe they're now having to divert their retirement skimming into actual defense spending.
Shall we review the list of diplomatic accomplishments of the prior administration and its Peace Plans for ending the war? No? Ok, then.
The mention of “incredible memories” is a bit over the top, but it doesn’t really tell us much on its own. It’s not that unusual for diplomats to praise a murderous dictator, like Nixon’s toasting Mao. It will be interesting what a final agreement says: what will Putin give up, what Ukraine will give up, what security promises will be made, and what these “mutually beneficial” U.S.-Russian plans mean.
The only thing that matters is what happens. Who does it, what they say, whether people at large like them, these things don’t mean shit.
John said...
"we" pushed them?
Every serious person knows that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable to Russia and they know why.
This is Biden's war. Period.
Lance said...
"pushed them"
"natural allies"
Funny.
So can we assume you endorse the Maidan regime that is feeding its people into the war blender?
This war is the NAZIs vs the Soviets going back hundreds of years.
Go look at the laws Poland had to pass banning the celebrations of "heroes" by the Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainians were quite active allies of Germany in WWII.
What is funny is there are people in our country who refuse to acknowledge the deep and pervasive corruption of the Zelensky regime. Not only are they pocketing billions of US tax dollars they are running Maidan press gangs to send everyone else to fight for them.
Achilles: "This war is the NAZIs vs the Soviets going back hundreds of years."
A funny thing to say about two political ideologies that only arose during the 20th century. Comports with your usual standards of accuracy, though.
Aggie wrote: 𝘏𝘦𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘣𝘪𝘥, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘦𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘦𝘯𝘷𝘰𝘺𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘤𝘶𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘳𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘰𝘭𝘴.
So now we’re supposed to hate Canada and love Putin? That’s where we are at with Trump's corrupt gangster government?
IEE (D)
Nobody loves Putin - you liar. Except Maddow and Adam Schitt... and Hillary - after all - Putin's people helped the Clintons make more bank.
The democrat party adore Poot. They pretend to hate him - but they admire his Soviet standards.
""we" pushed them?"
Pushed and pulled. We made Ukraine into a threat with talk of joining NATO, and then we presented a unserious threat to invasion with an administration led by a dementia patient and his back up, a woman who can't speak a single intelligent sentence.
The most dangerous thing to peace in the world is a weak United States, real or perceived.
The corrupt gangers are your party, IEE (D) The corrupt crime syndicate Xi demofuck party.
"Every serious person knows that Ukraine in NATO is unacceptable to Russia and they know why."
"We made Ukraine into a threat with talk of joining NATO"?
I'm a serious person and I know that very few Ukrainians had any desire to join NATO until after Russia invaded in 2014. Anyone who justifies either or both of the Russian invasions (2014 and 2022) by Ukraine's desire to join NATO is reversing cause and effect, and demonstrating gross ignorance of the entire war. Putin invaded Ukraine for the same reason he invaded Georgia and continues to occupy parts of Moldova: because he wants to reconstitute the USSR, and because Ukraine demonstrated that East Slavs are just as capable of building prosperous democracies as South Slavs (Slovenians, Croats, Bulgarians, etc.) and West Slavs (Poles, Czechs, Slovaks).
Russia secretly helping Iran develop supersonic cruise missiles ~ NY Post
Keep cozying up with Putin -- you’re a master strategist with great instinct! Putin is helping Iran build weapons which could kill Americans and their allies. Trump is a master planner!
Witkoff and Kushner just posed smiling with Putin in Moscow. Pick a side, or at least pretend to.
I don’t expect to see a Truth Social post on this…
Dr Weevil makes an astute observation regarding Ukraine, NATO and Russia.
Russia’s war against Ukraine isn’t simply about NATO or territory. A successful, independent Ukrainian democracy poses a more fundamental threat to Putin: it gives Russians living under an authoritarian government a nearby, culturally familiar example of what an alternative could look like. A free, prosperous Ukraine doesn’t merely challenge Russia’s geopolitical influence, it challenges the Kremlin’s political model.
Witcoff and Kushner were dispatched to Iran. Nothing came of it. Were they seriously trying to resolve the situation or just putting on a show? Was their involvement in Gaza much more than a show?
Abraham Accords? We'll see if anything actually comes of them. UAE, Bahrain, and Morocco haven't been major players in the region, though the first two do have a lot of money.
Joining NATO wasn't something Ukrainian masses were crying out for. The question is, what about Ukrainian elites? And still more, American and European elites?
Trump is ending wars all over the planet: Obama wars in Spring, Biden wars with benefits, Carter wars with an indefinite extension, and effecting emigration reform.
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