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"Jesus? He would have been just one of many Jewish sect leaders of his day, had he not had St. Paul to proselytize and the Roman Empire to finish the job."

"Genghis Khan? The mere beneficiary of heavy rainfall. Adolf Hitler? 'Hitler’s own life before the age of 30 gave no hint of his subsequent qualities as Germany’s leader,' Diamond writes. 'How, then, can we claim that no one else could have become the mature Hitler?' How indeed? Figuring out how to separate historical forces from human agency has puzzled scholars since the days of Herodotus and Thucydides.... Now, [Jared] Diamond proposes a new tool for assessing leaders. Rather than using 'the biographic method' of studying leaders in their own context, he suggests the 'natural experiment.' Social scientists have used natural experiments — finding occasions where life allows them to run comparative data studies — to analyze things like the economic impact of the minimum wage. Diamond claims that natural experiments also have significant potential in political history, religious studies and sports. The problem is, they don’t really work.... Can the natural experiment help us figure out the historical effect of a president being assassinated — or narrowly escaping such a fate?"

I'm reading "What Is It About Jesus Christ and Genghis Khan? In “Profits, Prophets, Coaches, and Kings,” Jared Diamond considers the impact leaders might have had on the course of their civilizations" (NYT gift link).

That's Dan Jones — author of "The Plantagenets: The Kings Who Made England" — reviewing the new Jared Diamond book (commission earned).

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rehajm म्हणाले...

“The problem is, they don’t really work”

…what I was thinking about those experiments before I reached that part of the paragraph and I was thinking about the minimum wage comparisons as well. There have been several but Ann linked to the Lewiston ID/Clarkston WA study NYT ran a story about long ago. That article illustrates the fatal flaw of natural experiment- supposedly objective observers see what they want to see, attribute coincidence and correlation with causation, don’t account for outside influences, etc etc…really the moniker gets used to juice the credibility of whatever conclusion…

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

Leaving aside classifying Jesus Christ in the same category with Ghenghis Kahn and Hitler, Diamond seems to be pushing an old idea - historical events create great men - great men dont create history. There would have been a Napoleon or a Hitler like person because the times demanded them.

Others have pushed the Great man of history theory. If Diamond is right, then "Killing baby Hitler" would've just created another Hitler under another name.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Jesus Christ and Genghis Kahn, from the Christ family (mother: Mary Christ) and the Kahn family respectively.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Wouldn't Mary properly use her maiden name in this case? Instead of the father's Joseph Christ.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Not a gift link. NYT wants me to subscribe.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Plantagenet was the surname of every English king from Henry II to Richard III —- 330 years.

stlcdr म्हणाले...

Interesting thought experiment, but it's just that. Something that we have all done at some point.

How does an individual or an event change the course of history? Removing that event implies that history is changed, but not all causal connections are evaluated or acknowledged.

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

Diamond has always been full of shit - an idealogue. Enviroment causes it all. This used to be the old commie line. They even shot biologists for pushing Plant Genetics.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

After the farce that was "Guns, Germs, and Steel" I'm inclined to disagree with the hypothesis. I'd be more interested in a leadership theorem from Victor Davis Hanson.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"How does an individual or an event change the course of history?"

- Be at the right place at the right time
- Don't be a woman
- Have a set of metaphorical 'balls'
- When wreathed, don't rest on your laurels

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Hari Seldon got there first.

rehajm म्हणाले...

…yes Bob a NYT gift link is never a gift…

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

Interesting that an academic thinks that the heavily educated Paul, and the Roman government, were more important to Christianity than Jesus Christ. That's a bizarre take, frankly.

I liked this movie about Paul: Paul, Apostle of Christ. I had more respect for Paul after watching that movie than before it.

RCOCEAN II म्हणाले...

Good grief an "academic". Diamond is a leftist, a Jew, and an atheist. I doubt he knows squat about Christianity or St. Paul.

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