"... came in and announced the street will be cleaned in 10 minutes and everyone had to get out. They just rolled trucks down and tossed everything away and that was that. I think Madison will just need to do the same here. Let people do their thing for a bit, then wipe it clean and everyone moves on."
Says a commenter at the Reddit post, "A stroll through the autonomous zone. Who is responsible for bringing out all these porta-potties?"
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८८ टिप्पण्या:
The City deserves half the blame for encouraging this
What, no bonfires? What's a protest without the smell of burning tires.
Ugh. Doesn’t it remind anyone else of a teen-agers bedroom? Only in public and writ large. Yah, ugh.
Utah officials unveil site for 1,300-bed homeless campus after long, secretive search ~ Utah's News Dispatch
'15.8-acre, Salt Lake City-owned property is west of Rose Park, near North Salt Lake boundary'
https://utahnewsdispatch.com/2025/09/03/utah-homeless-campus-site-unveiled-after-secretive-search/
I believe Utah’s homelessness plan is neither cruelty nor neglect, it’s realism finally catching up with chaos. For years, permissive policies and well-meaning but toothless outreach have failed to stem the rising tide of addiction, untreated psychosis, and encampments that have turned public spaces into dangerous no-go zones.
The Utah's new approach insists that compassion and accountability can coexist. By consolidating services, enforcing sobriety, and mandating treatment when necessary, Utah acknowledges what every outreach worker knows but few dare say: not everyone can recover voluntarily.
Governor Cox and Randy Shumway are confronting an ugly truth — that freedom without stability is not freedom at all.
A remote, secure, medically supervised campus may be the only humane alternative to endless cycles of arrest, overdose, and decay. Those who call it “a prison” ignore the real prisons created by fentanyl, schizophrenia, and bureaucratic paralysis.
Utah is not abandoning the homeless; it is refusing to abandon them to the streets.
Keep it. Forever.
Resist!
Fight the Man!
Reddit - ugh. A leftwing bastion of leftism.
Our nation is being destroyed by cancerous leftism.
Tantrum zones.
What we learned from Seattle was report of rapes weren't enough to end the CHAZ. It took a murder. That's what it means to "give it a little time".
When the Chi Coms arrive for scheduled visits in places like San Francisco - the leftists clean up the streets.
Gotta make it all nice and clean for your pay masters.
Kak-a--Lecture.
Inag style AI cut and paste.
Yeah, everything was just peachy in the Seattle CHAZ. (Not our Peachy).
Start with bread and water, add rewards for chores -- include bathing, clothes washed etc in chores
Once again I reflect upon the deep and lasting damage inflicted upon our society by the wanton neglect of our Fifth Column Fourth Estate. The FCFE.
Yes, indeed. Where did these Porta Potties come from? What organization or person ponied up the money to make sure all these violent occupying deadbeats have their needs attended to? Who is expressing this committed interest in perpetuating this occupation, to the misery, danger, and real civil cost of this mess?
A few years ago, who was it that was hiring UHauls to deliver riot goods to the rioters, who called Lowes to have them drop off fresh pallets full of bricks on streets full of windows?
There's a definite 'Need to Not Know' agenda here.
The Mayor of Denver rolls out the red carpet for Drug transients. A free house so you can enjoy your drug use inside.
Homelessness isn't always "the down and out" - it's often a choice made easy by those who don't want to work or partake in productive living, and the political party who expand and exploit it.
Leftist government thrives off of these choices, It provides more opportunity for graft.
Leftwing rage zones.
yeah - who is brining out the porta potties? Good question.
"g"
We are planning a family reunion. Some of the cousins have RVs big enough to close the street at both ends of the block. We could use the space for picnics, playground, and pop-up tents for other of the family.
What would be an appropriate time - a week? ten days? - before we would need to pack up and go?
I'm big fan of the D-9 Caterpillar bulldozer. It can sweed the streets clean in a matter of minutes.
The Potties of Platnerville.
“ Utah is not abandoning the homeless; it is refusing to abandon them to the streets.”
And will be a disaster just like all the rest.
It must be nice to be on the side, that can totally do whatever they want, not follow any laws that normal people must follow, and not get arrested. The rest of us have to get permits to have protests in the streets. Progressives get porta pottys, and police protection.
Minneapolis kept 38th and Chicago closed to traffic for over a year in honor of George Floyd.
..:incentives in all the wrong places. That is bad government…
Subsidize and tolerate disruptive and indeed irresponsible conduct and you get more of it. For the left this is a feature and not a bug.
All this drama for a violent criminal with a mile-long rap sheet. Has anyone ever setup an autonomous zone in honor of an innocent American murdered by a violent illegal alien?
And there's the sickening therapeutic bullshit about "[giving] the community a chance to heal and come together after this tragedy." Tragedy is when an innocent dies through absolutely no fault of her own. Tragedy is not when an addled criminal stabs a cop and gets put down.
No protest, no autonomous zone for Iryna Zarutska. Fuck these people.
Does that Utah homeless camp plan to require that its residents refrain from drugs or alcohol? Because if it doesn't it won't work; and if it does it will be empty.
Bich pretends that Salt Lake City's approach is something that is new and never tried before by countless other Democrat controlled cities. And, mark my words, Bich is hoping you don't notice that Salt Lake City is controlled by Democrats. Who can predict what his next comment is going to be? I can.
Does that Utah homeless camp plan to require that its residents refrain from drugs or alcohol? Because if it doesn't it won't work; and if it does it will be empty.
Exactly right- there are only two possible outcomes for this approach and you listed both of them. Unless coercion is used, the homeless will live exactly the way the wish to live despite the best intentions of people like Salt Lake City's government, and I am being generous in assigning actual good intentions to this project- it more likely is just another Democratic grifting operation using tax dollars.
@Bystander, flamethrowers. With bulldozers you have piles of debris to sweep up. With flamethrowers there is so much less to dispose of.
Having known many homeless and been so myself, I think the main cause of homelessness is running out of friends and family who have resources. You piss people off by being a parasite, and eventually you run out of hosts. I was homeless for a very short time, because I lost my support group by moving across the country with no money, but I soon built a new group, and rebuilt myself. It's surprising how many homeless simply prefer it to working, paying bills, and following rules, which the rest of us have gotten use to, but really is a pain in the ass compared to not having those duties every single day. Except for the cold hard pavement and filth, I kind of envy it. We get use to the daily hassle of responsible living, and they get use to the pavement and dirt. It's easier to go homeless than to go legit.
"just another Democratic grifting operation using tax dollars."
Regarding Utah's homeless plan- how many government/NGO workers will be involved? How much will they be paid? What metrics will be used to judge their performance?
Living in both L.A. and Las Vegas, I've seen two different systems. In Las Vegas, homelessness is bad for business, and that's bad for the politicians - money talks, so they stop it from spreading. L.A. has a different dynamic. The pols get money from NGO's and other organizations that return much of what the politicians feed them. Taxpayer money is circulated, which means solving the problem is counterproductive. In Vegas politicians get money for preventing it. In L.A. they get money for letting it fester. You get what you pay for.
I read something this morning about the issue. The main point is:
"The real problem isn’t that there aren’t enough homes … some of those “homeless” people on the street actually do have places to sleep but for one reason or another choose not to. The real problem for most of them is that they've gone feral ...
“Feral” is when a human cannot live within society, or comply with the basic expectations required for membership.
Yes, they do not have homes.
But this is not their distinguishing feature. Because they also don’t have jobs, sanity, sobriety, manners, morals, or hygiene."
https://quotulatiousness.ca/blog/2026/08/01/homelessness-isnt-the-real-problem-its-feral-humans/
They riot over the absolute worst of theirs. We don’t do shit for the most innocent of ours. That is why they win.
Most homeless are people who repeatedly choose not to be responsible. Our culture has degraded allowing that to be more acceptable, and our government has evolved to make it much more sustainable. At least one of those things needs to be reversed. Homelessness is a result of liberalism and graft in tandem. Like the rest of you, I watched it happen in real time. It's no mystery.
Leftists celebrating criminals, misogynists, transhumanists et al in parades is standard fare. Bloc Lives Matter
Have they stopped shutting down East Wash? I need to travel across town tomorrow. May drive around north of Mendota just to be sure.
* We don’t do shit for the most innocent of ours *
The silent majority... are disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable is in our corporate charter and characterizes our national character.
Has anybody besides me seen a picture of the knife with ehich Corey Ruiz tried to murder a policeman? I have one like it in my wooden knife block. It’s a carving knife. I have three in my knife block, one provided by the seller of my knife set that looks impressive, but it’s serrated edge couldn’t cut warm butter on a hot day, a two given me by sons who didn’t coordinate Christmas presents. The two knives that actually facilitate my carving a roast have roughly 4 1/2 inch hilts, 8 inch long blades, and the blades are 3 inches and 2 7/8 inches wide at the hilt, respectively. Maybe Madison could issue knives like that to a bunch of police officers and send them into the camp to see how many Corey Ruiz protestors are willing to be stabbed in the face with knives like that.
'....Does that Utah homeless camp plan to require that its residents refrain from drugs or alcohol? Because if it doesn't it won't work; and if it does it will be empty. ...'
I see the homeless population is still making itself useful to at least part of the SLC business community. Trust me: As long as it can be called 'charitable works', there will always be a place and it will never be empty. Unless the wind is coming from the west, maybe. Being right next to the Great Salt Lake, in all of its briny fecundity.
Sheesh. Second and third sentences were supposed to have been edited out.
(… wipe it clean and everyone moves on.” Bwahahaha! Sure they do.
The loser leftists of Madison are pissed that Ruiz wasn't successful in stabbing and killing a police officer.
Typical leftist scum.
Society doesn't flourish until 1% of the population is dead or in jail and another 1% are scared into behaving.
~98% of the population will respond rationally to incentives. The other 2%...
What is it this time?
These things usually have a name. Occupy (you name it), Intifada, Color revolution, No Kings protest, Black Lives Matter.
I'm sure I'm leaving out some movement. There just are to many for me to remember them all.
A couple of articulating bucket loaders with 5 yard buckets and grapples, and a long line of 20 yd dumpsters, and you could clear it right up before lunch time. All it takes is leadership.
That's a highly sanitized view of the CHAZ fiasco in Seattle.
Has Madison surrendered the nearest police station like the Chief surrendered the mike and the lectern?
Sorry, but you do not allow a takeover of your city by paid anarchists.
Seattle has never recovered and is on a continual downslide. Those who can (including major corporations) are leaving.
Portland not only hasn't recovered, it may be perpetually diseased at this point. Again- those who can are leaving.
People who are productive and prefer safety and civil society will eventually look for places that have standards for a civil society. Those that don't will be mostly populated by those who are out to destroy the civil society.
It always starts small.
basic economics 101
When you subsidize something (with cash/toilets/press/etc)..
you get MORE of it
“And there's the sickening therapeutic bullshit about "[giving] the community a chance to heal and come together after this tragedy.”
I admire their persistence. Since the Democratic Party’s very existence depends on the chicken and egg of poverty and crime, they miss no opportunity to foster those things. The DSA clearly understands this and will use it to bootstrap power while old-school faux-liberal grifters like Warren and Schumer gibber impotently (that is, insist that they get their cut) from the sidelines.
The left-right nexus is leftist.
This kind of thing won't end until we enact common-sense knife control laws.
It's not a takeover of Madison. It's a largely inconsequential nuisance enabled by warm weather. The most dame being done is to businesses sympathetic to their cause.
Damage
Just tax the people occupying the land. These people are treating the area as second homes.
"It's not a takeover of Madison. It's a largely inconsequential nuisance enabled by warm weather."
It looks like one intersection, albeit an important one on the isthmus. But I don't intend to go down to check it out for myself.
It's just one broken window.
"It's just one broken window."
Yes, it's a mistake to tolerate this.
Charlie: "This kind of thing won't end until we enact common-sense knife control laws."
Bloody hell, don't give them ideas! No Dem politician would ever interpret that remark as irony. CC, JSM
Good thing Big Cutlery has effective lobbyists. CC, JSM
The autogenous zone failed when they put out the boards with the nails in them. Remember the attacking aliens in the Simpsons?
oh no we are defeated, they have a board with a nail in it! Don’t worry soon they will make bigger boards with bigger nails, soon they will make a board with a nail in it so big it will destroy them all!
Big Cutlery is a minor player next to Sadistic Scalpel... hood.
Big Cutlery....hahaha
- Krumhorn
I, for one, suggest asphalt rollers followed by the front end loaders. Compresses the trash before putting it into the dumpsters. Plus you could charge money to let local citizens drive the giant crushing rollers over whatever is in the camp, after the people are evicted. Of course.
If you forcefully occupy a part of the city (and you don't represent a lot of votes), you should get free tear gas for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Look at what they did to Nick Sortor, beating him with sticks while he tried to get to his car as they claimed ownership of public streets. Are any of you doing anything about this? Even just picking up a bloody phone and complaining to your local reps?
Congratulations, Madison. You're Seattle with Lutefisk.
"Are any of you doing anything about this?"
Why would they, when they already support The Cause?
BTW - We Need to save one of those Port-a-potties. A ripe one.
Biden needs a Presidential Library.
Nick Sorter does the job the Soviet-Democraptastic media wont.
Truth. And the truth is - the democrat party is corrupt from top to bottom. The angry "put your bodies on the line" demo cultists hare happy to act as Nazi Brownshirts.
That's why they hate Sorter and want him dead.
Don't you dare shed light on the left's giant grifting rice bowl.
It took the justified killing of addled Venezuelan questionable green card cop-shooter *Tortuguita,* and multiple bombings in downtown Atlanta, East Atlanta, and even at the corporate HQs of construction companies in other states involved in the building contracts to finally shut down the occupation by commie pigs of *Stop Cop City* in Atlanta. And I'm one small woman with a Rollodex. Professionally-funded *activists* from Washington State, Oregon, and Venezuela joined the so-called Quakers to house and feed some 450 dumb bunny rich white college radicals and re-educate them to attack police. Capital-C Communists of the Quaker American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) actually listed on their website the home addresses of construction firm owners in other states working on the project, and their businesses were firebombed and families threatened. I shut that down with one single threat to AFSC to write an article about it. It was off their site in minutes.
You can make a difference. If you give a shit. And don't trust Quakers, unless they're silent, like they're supposed to be. As with all cults, the rest have gone sicko violent. Publishing home addresses of concrete manufacturers in other states?
None of this is amateur. I had to drag myself back down to Atlanta and spend ten hours watching the re-education of dumb-bunny college kids to record this spectacle, the get tear-gassed the next day when I didn't break away from the protest fast enough, as the *peaceful* protesters (suddenly it was all run by Palestinians, as they all are now) pulled apart their cement-filled *protest signs* and sharpened metal umbrella handles and attacked the police, who urged me out of there a minute too late.
This one of the many protests here didn't make the national news much because the optics were awful: all the cops were well-trained, young, ambitious and competent black men. There were no black protesters, just insane looking, 25% otherly-gendered or gross hippy white rich kids beating the cops.
You can make a difference.
CHAZ
CHOP
What's the dumb acronym for this shithole?
I don't even use a fake name or wig anymore when I infiltrate. They put two giant, bored kids next to me and sometimes throw me out. Same with Koch Foundation events. They all think I'm not worth it, and they all want the same three things: eliminate incarceration and police; legalize all drugs, and open all borders.
I am actually worth it.
A small number of us put a big dent in their Florida operations -- note to National Koch Head of Organizing, Slade McDonald. Gotcha on tape mocking the TEA Party as rubes, drunk at 10 a.m. in Orland stumbling into the kiddy pool. There is no difference between the Koch Foundations and Soros Foundations.
I give the bored watchers of me Snicker bars. I ask them about what they're majoring in. By the end, they treat me with grandma respect as they escort me out.
Communism's real weakness is that it's boring.
The bar is low, and I really can't do it anymore. Surely many of you can do it better. I'm really tired. Get a tent, a quart of milk (for pepper gas), swimming goggles, a painting respirator mask, snacks to hand out, and your home repair clothes. Go to the police in advance, give them your driver's licence, let them take pictures of you and your car. They will be neutral, but will check you out and appreciate it. If you know a policeman, a courtesy card from him or her will really help. Do not bring weapons. Record everything on your phone. Learn to snap your fingers. If you have tie-dye, this is its moment.
We all seem pretty weathered here. You may have some old tie-dye. Get a copy of Ad-Busters, the Vogue of the post-modern, deconstructionist anarchists. Who work at an art magazine. Bring it with you. These are paper tigers. They won't be for long.
You make a difference, Tina,..-thank you!
Repeating what Tina said.
"This one of the many protests here didn't make the national news much because the optics were awful: all the cops were well-trained, young, ambitious and competent black men. There were no black protesters, just insane looking, 25% otherly-gendered or gross hippy white rich kids beating the cops."
The white left. The real Nazis, the actual racists.
Let us not forget the old white leftist f-heads who wiggled rubber penises in the faces of Mexican-American ICE officers.
*... came in and announced the street will be cleaned in 10 minutes and everyone had to get out.*
Funny how a couple murders will change a city's stance on block parties, huh.
Hold off on the conspiracy theories until the pallets of bricks turn up on the street corners.
I was going to suggest that someone look up "porta potties as weapons" before dropping them off, but then I googled it. You need a weapon to weaponize a porta potty. It's not like you can pick them up and throw them ... so far as I know ...
Iirc, the dumb acronym for this one is CRAZ: Core E
Ruiz Auto Zone.
Again - leftists are just pissed the cops were not stabbed.
"You're Seattle with Lutefisk."
That's not good. Not good at all.
Dezis? Democrats of the liberal kind are predominantly, proudly members of progressive sects ordered by the Pro-Choice [ethical] religion brayed my mortal gods and goddesses of class-disordered ideologies.
Seattle with gelatinous texture. Agreed. Not good.
Why do riots and arson only happen in cities that actually have black neighborhoods?
Taking what pro homeless boi has copied and pasted, (Don't think for a minute he believes anything he posts about. Althouse is just the place he's decided to fingerpaint with shit.)
Are the streets where the homeless have decided to settle cleaner than before they came? Are those streets safer? Less crime riddled? Are those streets more sanitary? Do they police themselves and their behavior? No? Then by what form of reasoning do you believe anyplace they are moved to will be any better?
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