Collins: Do you still believe that Thanksgiving should be canceled?
— Acyn (@Acyn) August 4, 2026
Hong: I'm a chef, and one of the first meals that I made was for the community when I was 16 was a Thanksgiving meal. But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities.… pic.twitter.com/Kd5kBZMxZS
"I'm a chef, and one of the first meals that I made was for the community when I was 16 was a Thanksgiving meal. But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. And so I think there" — when she said Thanksgiving should be canceled — "I wanted to make sure that people understood that there are multiple views, but views can evolve. And the position that I'm running for right now, and I think my background as a chef will actually help me become a better governor that's able to bring more people to the table."
Brilliant!
A chef... bringing people to the table. I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her. But if you could stand back coolly and observe, I think you should admit that this — along with Trump's weave — is beautiful American political rhetoric.
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251లో 1 – 200 కొత్తది» సరి కొత్తది»It's hard not to like Thanksgiving -- there are no obligations, no religious undertones and no gift giving. This is not a winning issue for Ms. Hong. And, of course, the vast majority of Native Americans celebrate Thanksgiving the same way all other Americans do, by eating a lot of food and watching football. Why are we pretending that this is not the case?
Sounded more to me like a woman having an anxiety attack having to talk to a white reporter.
If you can't understand the difference between that word salad and President Trump's speech patterns, I suggest an appointment with a memory care doctor. You gotta be kidding me!!!
"Sounded more to me like a woman having an anxiety attack..."
An anxiety attack?! She was unusually calm.
"If you can't understand the difference between that word salad and President Trump's speech patterns..."
Either both are word salads or neither is... or all that rhetoric around "word salads" is just another way of saying hooray for my side.
Afraid? What made you pick THAT word, Professor? Does she ever explain WHY Thanksgiving is “incredibly painful for many people in our communities”? Which people? Why is it painful? Does she explain. Why not?
Go ahead and vote for her, Althouse. You know you’re just dying to. Just don’t expect respect.
It is evasive, but it's eloquently evasive. To say "word salad" is to say the words are randomly tossed together. That is clearly not the case. If you care about people making sense, pay attention to the sense you yourself are not making.
She wants to bring more people to the table. She wants to serve man.
@Spiros, right o ! She’s against Thanksgiving because she hates the Green Bay Packers.
I’ll admit it’s better than her usual “I’m evolving from the position I took 5 minutes ago” response.
Being a chef qualifies one for a great vernorship? Well, maybe, I suppose. It depends on what you cook up.
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She does appear quite calm, to me, not anxious. But who knows what’s bubbling up? She could be just simmering, beneath the surface.
Gotta go with Pat Henry here. Those last two sentences are little better than jibberish.
Who is "the community" for whom she cooked this dinner?
"Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities." Who are these many people and why are the credubly pained at Thanksgiving?
She knew she's going to face questions on this and prepared this ridiculous answer for deflection purposes. She never answers the direct question whether she still thinks Thanksgiving should be cancelled.
Hong blaming White Europeans for disease transmission among Native Americans is disgusting. Xenophobia and prejudice are always behind these stories about who is responsible for the spread of disease. Usually it's the Jews (or the Irish) but now, according to Ms. Hong, it's ALL White people. Thank you for educating us about White people's poor “lifestyle choices," our lack of cleanliness and, maybe, how a just and righteous God hates us and wants to kill us with super diseases.
She's an awful, crazy woman. And instead of listening to her racist garbage we should blame Ms. Hong's ancestors for the spread of infectious diseases from Asia to Europe? We should do so in hysterical and crazy ways. Just cry and scream all day about how the bubonic plague, influenza of various types and similar infectious diseases from Asia's filthy mega cities killed hundreds of millions of Europeans.
The 37yo nutcase female communist's version of 'this one time Randy Beaman's mom....'
That should be “governorship.” What the heck? That’s not even an understandable autocorrect, or whatever.
Sorry "the credubly" should be "the incredibly".
Speaking of changes, here is a lovely video Islamic Call to Prayer Now Blasts Five Times Per Day Across Minneapolis
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I'm with Ann: Hong sounds like Trump.
What a coincidence ! Her very first meal as a chef was Thanksgiving, and it was served to the community ! And the hard-hitting reporter forgot to call bullsh*t and repeat the question.
[start virtual italics] or all that rhetoric around "word salads" is just another way of saying hooray for my side.[end virtual italics]
Yep.
Of course the big difference between Trump and Hong is that Trump will tell you what he actually believes.
"But Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities."
Isn't she practicing cultural appropriation here?
I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her.
It's official: Althouse has gone far-left.
A Collins interview of Trump is a very different thing than a Collins interview of Hong.
That was some "hard-hitting" coverage.
“ Being a chef qualifies one for a great vernorship”
A great vernorship is something they need in Michigan.
Hannibal Lecter was also quite the chef and conversationalist. Yes, his weave was smooth, but those who fell for it often ended up in the main course.
Wisconsin deserves a Commie.
Couldn't disagree more. Trump does weave, and personally I hate his style, but he eventually does get to the point and gives an answer. And you know he believes in what his answer is. Straight talk, without a straight path. Hong gives an evasive word salad dressed up as an answer. It's a fairly typical non-answer answer IMHO.
Vladimir Lenin brought the community to the table, too.
Difference is that Trump isn't full of shit.
And Trump says she never smiles. Look at that warm, encouraging smile she gives Francesca. The creases around her eyes are kindly and not skeptical. She looks like a mother watching her toddler take her first steps. I felt we shared a moment of intimacy and warmth. Two gentle souls arriving at a moment of peace and understanding.
You don't get to where Hong is without being clever. But the bill comes due and Wisconsin isn't a ramen shop. And if I still lived in Wisconsin I certainly wouldn't want the dudes who run Penzeys or the Minocqua Brewing Company running the state, either. Of course, we have a more advanced state of psychosis on our side of the Saint Croix.
>Ann Althouse said...
... or all that rhetoric around "word salads" is just another way of saying hooray for my side.<
Says a woman who apparently never saw Kamala Harris' actual daily offerings of word salad. Fair enough, I imagine that they weren't shown on the channels that Althouse watches.
There are any number of things that you can stand back coolly and observe that are tragic for those involved, like a house on fire. The policies the she and the DSA espouse are knowingly destructive to society and the people that she says she boosts. The ‘house fire’ needs to be extinguished before it burns to the ground.
I am sick of progressives sharing their true thoughts then later saying that their thinking has evolved. Bullshit! Kamala did it now this one is doing it. Tiffany is going to remind the voters over and over of all the bat shit crazy ideas Hong has spouted and we constantly hear her reply that her thinking has evolved.
“I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her.”
Yes, I am afraid of her and the people who are going to vote for her. Exactly right. I’ll leave the enjoyment of her rhetoric to others.
This is such bullshit. The lunatic is dangerous. And she has a good chance of becoming the Governor of WI, and turning WI into MN. We have a lot of nutty liberal white women in WI.
So now we're going to justify this crazy woman's existence in WI politics by giving some bullshit rhetorical analysis saying, "duhhhh.... she talks like Trump."
I just wish Madison and Milwaukee would leave the rest of Wisconsin alone.
OMG, Althouse, that’s hilarious. I had absolutely 0 idea of the sig indicate of “Vernor” to Michigan, that state not being one of those with which I’m familiar in any deep sense. But I’m learning about it this morning.
What an odd, and oddly apropos, mixture of typo and autocorrect. I’m feeling a little “eeried out.”
Ann Althouse said...
"An anxiety attack?! She was unusually calm."
That was a callback to another one of her screwy Tweets. It was about an encounter in Culver's.
From the post:
"Brilliant!"
No. Deflection and deception, so on-brand for a socialist.
"A chef... bringing people to the table. I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her. But if you could stand back coolly and observe, I think you should admit that this — along with Trump's weave — is beautiful American political rhetoric."
I will not stand back, nor coolly observe. Her rhetoric masks her true ambition: to seize the traditional narrative, to choke it until it stops moving, and replace history with propaganda. It's not beautiful; it's terrible, in every sense of the word.
"I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her."
We just had a graphic demonstration of what those people who are going to vote for her played out on Willy Street. Damn right I'm afraid of where those people will take us.
“I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her.”
Are you, Professor?
“significant” not not “significant indicate.” What the hell is going on with me and phone-commenting this morning?
Ann Althouse said...
["Sounded more to me like a woman having an anxiety attack..."]
"An anxiety attack?! She was unusually calm."
That's terrifying, like Hannibal Lecter.
“Sig indicate” is the correct mistake.
Jeez. I should just give up.
John Winthrop, of Plymouth fame, was a friend of Oliver Cromwell. He had invited Oliver, his fellow Puritan, to join him on the Plymouth undertaking. Cromwell declined and went on to do other things, like for instance killing about thirty percent of the natives of Ireland. Those natives were my ancestors. The Puritans and Pilgrims had no great love for Catholics, but things that happened hundreds of years ago, happened hundreds of years ago. Let it rest.
Hong, like Trump, seems to be an accomplished bullshit artist,
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer...
Don't worry, ann and meade and boys.
Nobody is going to be canceling Thanksgiving or Christ,as anytime soon...
I imagine more voters will be concerned with issues like education, which tanked in Wisconsin after your boy Walker came out against the teachers and unions.
Wisconsin has an open primary and I am tempted to vote for her because it will give Tiffany a better chance of winning the general election if his opponent is a bat shit crazy chef vs a moderate more qualified democrat.
Uptalk + obvious mental stuff. What a combo
"Cancel Thanksgiving" = leftwing "locker room talk"
Now you don't like locker room talk? Don't be such babies.
“Are you, Professor?”
No.
But you need to know that a lot of people who want the Republican to win are going to vote for Hong in the primary.
Francesca Hong is quite gentle and likable. She's no pre-op Rosie O'Donnell. Mao's last wife was quite attractive as a young woman.
Now do "De-fund the police"
the devil can swindle anyone
Luke: I won't fail you. I'm not afraid.
Yoda: You will be. You will be.
Hong's Unearthed Tweets.
Trump stands by the things he says and posts. Closed border. Deportations. Voter fraud etc...
Hong does not. Abolish the police, close all prisons, white people suck (there are a lot of these posts by Hong), get rid of Thanksgiving etc... Now denies it all in the her crazy campaign.
She is trying to hide her hatred of rural white Wisconsin. She is a lying communist. That is simply what she is.
It will be interesting if the Suburban white women in Ozaukee and Waukesha Counties who backed Biden and our female liberal Supreme Court fall in line for Hong's bullshit. Washington County will stay dark red.
I don't think they will. White Suburban women like to protect their own in the end, and no matter your sensibilities, Hong is a threat to Brookfield, Whitefish Bay, Glendale, Cedarburg, Port Washington etc....
"Wisconsin has an open primary and I am tempted to vote for her because it will give Tiffany a better chance of winning the general election if his opponent is a bat shit crazy chef vs a moderate more qualified democrat."
I'm thinking the same. Although I'm also thinking, 'careful what you wish for'.
I haven't looked at any polls. I get the impression Hong is already a slam dunk.
“That was some "hard-hitting" coverage.”
One reason I try to stay out of restaurants. Just as I’m trying to enjoy my order of chowder or the amuse bouche the chef kindly sent out, BAM! something hits my party of two.
Friendly lefty CNN let her beg the question, not clever, not relevant, not an answer.
If you're a member of a minority, you have to negotiate different passages with more care and caution than members of the majority. That's just the way it is. Should all members of the majority strive to be tolerant and understanding. Mmmm, okay. Should all members of the minority strive to be accepting and positive of the ways and customs of the majority. Fucking yes, they should. (I, of course, exclude those ways and customs that are actively harmfrul to the minority.) I think Hong is guilty of her own kind of pious intolerance That's the kind of intolerance that the Puritans exhibited, not the mushy sentiments that now characterize Thanksgiving
Says she can change. she can evolve.
Leftwing politico qualifications are embarrassing. They can all say horrendous things, make horrendous harm-laced threats, lack any serious qualification, zero work experience, and still be taken seriously by the hack soviet press.
Oh you have a nazi tattoo, you abuse women sexually, you promise to cancel holidays our nation hold dear? you promise to harm us by defunding the police and ICE, harm us by opening up the prisons, and removing our sovereign border?
and now you say "oh I have evolved" -
Only an idiot would vote for this Walzian nightmare.
>Enigma said...
Friendly lefty CNN let her beg the question, not clever, not relevant, not an answer.<
The same friendly lefty who was being praised in a post here just a couple days ago for being a great interviewer.
“I'm thinking the same. Although I'm also thinking, 'careful what you wish for'.”
But I’m wishing only that our next governor not be acceptable to Tony Evers.
On Sept 14, 2022 Francesca Hong tweeted this about the Waukesha Christmas Parade Massacre:
“White supremacists exploit 'false narrative' of racial motivation in Waukesha parade tragedy”
A crazy, career criminal, sociopathic black guy from Milwaukee, who should not have been on the streets, and tried running his girlfriend over with his car, used that same car after being let out by a liberal judge to run over Waukesha's Dancing Grannies and Little League Baseball players.
She is sick and insane. Fuck her.
That she stands a chance - along with all these other harmful toxic Democratix communists - is really fucked up.
Spiros, you wrote:
**It's hard not to like Thanksgiving…** and **…no religious undertones**
But it’s literally right there in the name, THANKSgiving. To Whom were the Pilgrims giving their “thanks”? The entire meal was a group effort to thank God for enabling them to survive in the new world.
Gusty Winds - Fuck her indeed.
Again - that she is running at all - and not being run OUT of the democratic party - is a disgusting reflection on how corrupt and evil the democrat party is.
oh but look how adorable she is! She is a chef! oh oh oh - how adorable! Please skip past her psychopathic harmful cruel insanity.
Hong is currently the representative for Wisconsin's 76th State Assembly District. That is basically the heart of downtown Madison. That's basically crazy town. All the things Hong has said.... (abolish the police) are supported by people in that district... until you have to clear out a protest encampment.
“And the position that I'm running for right now, and I think my background as a chef will actually help me become a better governor that's able to bring more people to the table."
Try diagramming that “sentence”. Or even find the subject. It’s not American political rhetoric, or rhetoric at all, it’s just political drivel.
"Brilliant!"
No.
The chef calls to gather around the table for helpings of word salad and promises of dressing to come.
Perhaps it was Hong who provided the port-a-potties for her immature grown children who hate all police in Madison. ???
"Trump stands by the things he says and posts."
Bullshit. Haven't heard about immigrants eating cats and dogs since he said that gaffe the first time. There is a LONG list of similar things he has dropped, if you bothered to look.
Welcome to the cruel neutrality that made this blog worth reading .
9:27 - Gusty Winds' post - read it.
Dezis in the woke of Prolibs is a Pro-Choice for some bloc lives matters.
"I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her."
Yes. Like most people, there is justifiable fear of crazy lunatics who are not institutionalized. And for those of us who live in parts of WI, where industry and output help fund the state, unlike than Madison, which is funded on outside tax money and student debt.... Hong is a dangerous threat.
Her supporters are batshit crazy.
"But you need to know that a lot of people who want the Republican to win are going to vote for Hong in the primary."
Very true. This happens in some elections. But damn...this is a very dangerous game to play.
Wisconsin is on a path that'll make Minnesota look sane.
We are certain the Collins and Hong had this all worked out from the get go?
The whole point of the Soviet-Dem press is to positive platform. When R's are interviewed - they get cut off and interrupted and it's all a gotcha shit show. But here we see a that platform. The D is let off gently, and bathed in glorious lightness - despite a past statement that is dark and grim.
Soviet dem media hacks allow dems all sorts of space to wiggle, lie, and skate out of past inanity - and look adorable. so adorable.
Abolish Thanksgiving because a few people are bothered by it. Ignore the 99+% of the people who love Thanksgiving so much they claim it as their favorite annual holiday. It’s just an insane position, especially for a chef. You can acknowledge some people are not happy on Thanksgiving without cancelling it altogether. Put your chef skills to work and create an anti-Thanksgiving menu that the unhappy people can rally around. Perhaps a seasonal fruitcake or I-have-a-beef stew would do.
Mark - that topic is a big nothing burger - compared to the harm promised by the freaks in YOUR party, on a non-stop basis.
btw- Biden's' illegal immigrants were caught taking wildlife out of the park - to eat.
"Pass me that dark meat, please," said Dirt McGirk. "I'm a thigh man."
Temujin said...
"Wisconsin is on a path that'll make Minnesota look sane."
Literally. This past Sunday Aug 2nd, Hong held a campaign event with Minnesota's very own Ilhan Omar at South Milwaukee High School.
"Extra spicy."
Allowing criminals and the mentally unstable/ violently unstable - (with priors) - to walk around - is harmful to others.
Democrats have all decided they universally and collectively - DON'T CARE.
The Press has already chosen the form of your destructor. Crowley will get no positive interviews.
We had a Thanksgiving ruined one time by our cat, Chuckles, who was inside the turkey and all you could see was her tail sticking out.
We've been dog people ever since.
I’d like these interviewers to ask the DSA folks about the oath of office they’re required to take if they win the seat they’re after. You can’t pledge to uphold the US Constitution then proceed to try to dismantle it. That’s treasonous or seditious or something equally threatening to national security.
"I'll take a breast," said Dirt McGirk. "But only if you put gravy on that white meat."
I hate the Hitler analogies but this post could basically say...
"Hitler was a brilliant orator and a vegetarian. He loved animals and even owned a dog. He also like to escape to his mountain retreat to enjoy the serenity and the amazing views. We'd all like to do that. He said he wanted to kill Jews, but now says he didn't really mean it. I know you are all afraid of him... But if you could stand back coolly and observe, I think you should admit that this — is beautiful political rhetoric."
No Thanks, No Giving, and No God
"I represent the thankless and the unhappy, with zero gratitude and plenty of unhappiness for all."
"Excuse me while I lick my fingers," said Dirk McGirk. "I'm not sucking my thumb. I'm sucking my whole hand."
A card table? Three-card monte? Served by the red queen.
Dirt! I'm Dirt. Not Dirk.
And we wonder why complete bullshit can win elections.
People make excuses for sucking it up like thin porridge.
I know, you're afraid of her and of the people who are going to vote for her
…Yes I am afraid and if you had any sense you’d be afraid of her and the rest of the communists, too…
Francesca Hong tweet July 2019:
"“I ate two bites of my kid’s cheeseburger at a Culver’s in black river falls and told him they ran out of ice cream. Mostly just wanted to leave bc I was on the verge of a anxiety attack…to many old white people who didn’t think we spoke english.”
Isn't she adorable??? She's a chef who brings people to the Culver's table!
White people give this crazy lunatic anxiety attacks. And she wants to be Governor of a state that is 80% white people.
"You can’t pledge to uphold the US Constitution then proceed to try to dismantle it."
Wanna bet? We have a whole party dedicated to the process. Now they are even promising it in advance.
…one could insert an 86 joke here but the pendulum has surely swung back to the death threat meaning…
Gusty - you are spot on, man.
Hong is adorable!
Trump might well talk crazy, but the policies he pushes align with the majority of Americans.
Hong talks crazy and the policies she pushes will destroy the majority of Americans.
Choose wisely.
"White people give this crazy lunatic anxiety attacks. And she wants to be Governor of a state that is 80% white people."
And yet they will vote for her. Could you imagine a politician saying that about any other group and still getting their vote? AWFLs are a bane to civilization.
Indeed - white leftists love to hate on themselves. At the same time exempt themselves from the historical grievance they indulge in. Somehow all that civic punishment makes them feel superior or something.
It's like mass psychosis. OH WAIT --- but adorable!
"...incredibly painful for some people..."
Who are "some" people?
People who lose wars, loves and youthful promise have a choice. Waste the rest of your life whining about it or say to yourself, "FUCK, I lost" and make the most of reality and your future.
"...you should admit that this — along with Trump's weave — is beautiful American political rhetoric."
Sure, sure. But the rhetoric sure works better if the questioner fails to follow up. In this case she served up a softball to allow Hong diffuse a BS position, slipped in a smile of "mission accomplished" and signed off.
And that sweet, soft little girl voice sets my nerves on fire. It's the "butter wouldn't melt in her mouth tone - yuck.
“Brilliant!”
I could maybe concede “brilliant” if I believed for a second that these were just off the cuff remarks. I mean, she has a team of professional advisors that understand her vulnerability due to these deranged tweets. I have no doubt they have anticipated the questions and have coached her on providing canned responses. I don’t believe for a second that this was an impromptu response.
Bob Boyd: "She wants to bring more people to the table. She wants to serve man".....but but...It's a COOK BOOK
There is a difference between word salad (Kamala/Hong ) and stream of consciousness speaking.(Trump) The first is unpalatable and unintelligible.you wind up thinking what is this?!. The other is messy in presentation but eventually gets to the point.
Word salad is to disguise that you have no idea what you are talking about. There is no coherence or actual point being made.
Stream of consciousness is due to your brain working overtime and being flooded with thoughts so fast they come out unorganized and out of sequence. Eventually to be coalesced into coherence.
Trump doesn't have a laundry list of items that are harmful to the American people.
Trump made promises and keeps promises that help US citizens. (while the left violently thwart)
ie - Ending Biden's mass Illegal enterprise - and deporting illegal immigrants. Biden illegally allowed millions of Illegals to walk into our sovereign nation without going thru the border check points that Biden defunded.
“if I believed for a second that these were just off the cuff remarks”
Let’s not forget how many times lefty reporters have given advance notice of the questions to lefty candidates
Hong will cook up a revolting diet for the Badger state. What has she been like in the legislature? I heard she os angry all the time.
Great.
She can try to bring people to the table.....but if she is serving yam casserole with marshmallows, dried up overcooked turkey and canned cranberry sauce....I'm not eating at THAT table.
Terrible ideas, in particular communism, don’t die. It’s an infection that comes back every generation.
One can see the batshit crazy in her eyes. And Hong isn’t much better.
Promises to harm people, and dems rush to support.
I don't think Hong's response was word salad. Quite the contrary. It made me wonder if her team had been given the questions in advance of the interview. CNN has a history of that.
Terrible ideas, in particular communism, don’t die. It’s an infection that comes back every generation.
Agree. So what do you think about the Trump Administration forcing private industry to surrender equity to the federal government?
MAGA "talks" about hating socialism/communism but when Trump does the communism...crickets. 🦗🦗🦗
Trump is a trojan horse for the coming socialism that will destroy America. What do you think will happen when AOC or her acolytes get their grubby mitts on the power to bully companies into "sharing ownership" with the federal government? We are so fucked.
#NoQueens
“Agree. So what do you think about the Trump Administration forcing private industry to surrender equity to the federal government?”
The idea of creating a sovereign wealth fund similar to Alaska’s as a method of funding universal base income or universal high income didn’t originate with Trump. Major players in the AI industry, like Andreessen, Diamandis, Musk, etc., originated the idea. You are wrong on the most basic level. This is not an idea being forced on private companies. The idea came directly from venture capitalists and high level tech execs.
The missed additional connotation of "word salad" is that it's filling but contains little nutritional value. It pretends to be substantial. If someone served up a Thanksgiving dinner of just salad, for example.
The topic is Hong(D) and her past harmful promises.
Not Trump -
TDS DD.
If Thanksgiving was cancelled, would Hong make it just another Thursday at work? Or would she make it a different holiday?
If the latter, what would she have us celebrate? And as a former chef, what would she like to see as the new traditional fare for the new holiday?
If Thanksgiving was replaced, I think the new holiday would be a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our communities. What would Hong do about that? Cancel it?
Trump never attempts to be elegant in his speech. He serves his bullshit straight up on a paper plate. Transparency.
The desire to eliminate long-held traditions that link the past with the present and replace them with narrowly appreciated things with no shared links to our ancestors seems dumb if not selfish and cruel.
What is truly sad about the modern dem party and their cultists - no matter how horrible a D candidate is - the only thing they can muster is "but Trump" .
The topic is Hong(D) and her past harmful promises.
Not Trump -
The topic turned to "communism." The communism is coming from inside the MAGA.
The idea of creating a sovereign wealth fund similar to Alaska’s as a method of funding universal base income or universal high income didn’t originate with Trump. Major players in the AI industry, like Andreessen, Diamandis, Musk, etc., originated the idea. You are wrong on the most basic level. This is not an idea being forced on private companies. The idea came directly from venture capitalists and high level tech execs.
Cool. What do you think about it? What do you think Elizabeth Warren will do with the "sovereign wealth fund."
Ann Althouse said...
[“Are you, Professor?”]
"No.
But you need to know that a lot of people who want the Republican to win are going to vote for Hong in the primary."
True. But mail-in voting in the general election could make that backfire. If I had a dog in the hunt I'd hope for anyone but Hong in the primary.
"So what do you think about the Trump Administration forcing private industry to surrender equity to the federal government?"
I would hate it, except the alterative is to let foreign enemies do it to key strategic industries. My principles do not require a suicide pact.
Hong wants to eliminate Milwaukee's very successful school voucher program which has helped poorer inner city kids escape the failing Milwaukee Public School System. The program started in 1990. In 1998 the WI Supreme Court ruled the vouchers could be used for religious schools. Today, 30,000 kids from Milwaukee take advantage of this program. IT WORKS.
If you live on the West side of Milwaukee, you can get a voucher and pay for tuition at St. Agnes Catholic School just on the "safe side" of 124th Street. It's an amazing school and a huge upgrade from MPS, and it's only a few miles from your house in a safe neighborhood.
The lower grades are well populated, and of course thins out after you get above grade 4. However, for the kids there, the student to teacher ratio is incredible. Some classes 10 kids to 1 full time teacher.
I dated the music teacher there for a bit. Went to the fall and spring music concerts she led. The vast majority of students were African-American or Hispanic-America coming from Milwaukee.
Francesca Hong and her communist Teachers Union supporters want to take the voucher program away from these families and kids, and trap them in MPS, and Milwaukee's perpetual poverty.
That's how you make poor people forever dependent on the socialist state. Evil really.
But, at least she's a chef!!
I don't see anything particularly unusual or interesting about the way she makes this claim. Blaming imaginary white supremacism for everything that happens would involve being weavy with the truth, but that's a different dull type of political speech: lying demagoguery.
DD - Trump is not a communist - that you think so is no surprise to any of us.
Gusty Winds @ 10:59 (*must read post)
Again - the theme from the Democrat party is -> harm and punishment.
uphold the US Constitution. <> Will claim the FIFTH !!!
could be taqquiah is kosher per Founding Fathers!!
Nobody voted for Trump because of his circuitous speaking style.
Hong is a anti-black anti-Hispanic racist.
... and definitely #NoKinks.
Some of our commenters need to watch the All-In Podcast and Moonshots. The assumption behind a sovereign wealth fund is that working for a living will become optional in the next 3-5 years as AI/robotics makes goods and services close to free. So, we become capable of producing everything in abundance, but we then have no method of distributing goods and services. A fundamental change in economic systems. What’s being suggested isn’t communism. It’s providing displaced workers with income so that they can purchase the tsunami of goods and services that AI/robotics is already beginning to produce.
Yes it is eloquently evasive. They are getting very good at it. But I am not afraid of her at all. I think the people who vote for her will deserve her and all she brings to Wisconsin.
Big difference: Hong is using her "weaviness" to hide something. Trump reveals too much withhis.
I just had breakfast. I just about threw up when I read the line about the chef bringing people to the table. Ugh.
Next we'll be talking about kitchen table issues. Gimme a fuckin' greak. If the people vote for this nutcase, Hong, they deserve whatever bad things come to them. Don't say you didn't have warning. We warned you New Yorkers about mandami too but you thought free stuff sounded like a great idea.
I think we can all agree our wacky weaver is benign and their wacky weaver is malignant.
"...working for a living will become optional in the next 3-5 years "
No way it's that fast. Many things are already produced by robotics, but mostly in large, high-volume production. The vast majority of people work in "small" businesses that produce things in low volume. Eventually, robotics will be easier and cheaper to implement, but right now it's not practical for anything but highly repetitive tasks. We'll get there, but not that quick.
Can there be convergence between
sovereign wealth fund << and >> Privatized social security
Bob Boyd asks what a Hongsgiving might look like. As a chef, she was inspired by the irresistible cultural influence of White Man Charles Schultz and his pervasive capitalistic messaging, so we'll get Charlie "Hong" Brown Thanksgiving
You know how you get good at being evasive? The same way you get good at doing anything.
Vote cheat will push this horrendous slick liar over the top. De-fund the police/ cancel whitey and destroy education for poor blacks. ( anti-education corrupt unions are hand in glove with the corrupt democratic party)
NO - the people of Wisconsin do not deserve the harm she will bring.
Prole - go straight past tired and collect $ 200
Not a working chef. Like Graham the Nazi she is treated special by the Media. They consistently refer to Leftist candidates by the most anodyne of occupations: chef, oyster farmer, small business owner. Must be nice to be able to count on the Media to fluff you and present you in the best light instead of the hostility and sneering condescension the Media reserves for Republican candidates.
Democratic Communists demand all of our children be forced into government run schools - schools they control. Schools that fail to educate but excel at political indoctrination.
**So what do you think about the Trump Administration forcing private industry to surrender equity to the federal government?**
Sounds like bullshit. What forcing?
Yea she’s a peach.
“I ate two bites of my kid's cheeseburger at a Culver's in black river falls and told him they ran out of ice cream. Mostly just wanted to leave bc I was on the verge of a anxiety attack...to many old white people who didn't think we spoke english
11:57 AM · Jul 2, 2019
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Hong likes to compare herself with Milwaukee's socialist mayors. The most famous being Dan Hoan who was mayor from 1916-1940. But she is and the Mandami led Democrat Socialists are NOTHING like them.
During the Great Depression, Dan Hoan was on the cover of Time Magazine, because Milwaukee actually had a balanced budget. Bills were paid. Infrastructure was built. Milwaukee was a dirty city run by the steel, tanning, and beer barons. The socialists built roads, implemented public health standards and made other necessary improvements.
Much like Teddy Roosevelt and Huey Long in Louisiana. When Huey Long took office in 1928 there were 300 miles of paved roads in Louisiana. When he left in 1932 there was 2300 miles.
Government has its place in regulating industry and building infrastructure. But Hong and her supporters want to bring back the unnecessary high speed rail debate between Milwaukee and Madison. (It's only and easy hour and twenty minute drive). It would break the bank.
Hong won't build a damn thing. Lucky for her, the general liberal voting population is historically ignorant and know nothing about some of the successful "socialist" leaders of the past.
But they are not the same. Not even close. Hong is probably too stupid to understand this.
11:30 - Mike MJB Wolff ##### Indeed.
“I think the people who vote for her will deserve her and all she brings to Wisconsin.”
I see this sentiment as a bit of self-soothing in the face of enormous danger, and I empathize. But voting for candidates like this isn’t abstract - California, and now New York, show what “deserve her” actually costs. There are no do-overs. The damage stays.
Obama and Clinton both agreed that marriage was “between one man and one woman” when they ran against each other; but neither paid a price when their views “evolved”. (While Trump, who didn’t oppose same sex marriage, is reflexively called homophobic by wokies).
Yeah shes psycho
"Culinary diplomacy is a form of public diplomacy that uses food and cuisine as a primary means to cultivate cross-cultural understanding, build relationships, and create a favourable national image. As a subset of cultural diplomacy, it operates on the principle that the shared experience of a meal can transcend political and cultural divides, creating a neutral and positive environment for interaction and mutual understanding. " - Diplomacy.edu
Ann Althouse said...
"A great vernorship is something they need in Michigan."
Make Vernorship Great Again
"Brilliant"
I never took Althouse for such an easy grader.
Also, I didn't hear an answer to the question.
"btw- Biden's' illegal immigrants were caught taking wildlife out of the park - to eat."
You mean like my grandpa who loved hunting and eating wild game? Was never a fan of geese, which was his favorite.
But like the people in question never was one to eat cats and dog.
Vernorship Down is the story of a group of Democrats led by Crowley as they flee the destruction of their party and search for a new home, guided by Ever's bland vision.
"Says a woman who apparently never saw Kamala Harris' actual daily offerings of word salad."
You missed the word "OR" in my sentence. Completely screws up the meaning.
"Francesca Hong hating American holidays is Marxism 101. Communists always seeks to subvert the culture and history of whatever place they are currently infesting. This is key to their efforts to make a population hate their own history in order to destabilize a nation" - Jack Posobiec on X.
That's a long way round to say you don't want to be stuck in the kitchen cooking the turkey on the third Thursday of November.
Mark -
American citizens do not usually remove wildlife out of public parks. to eat. And there was a woman who ate a cat. We don't know how many pets went missing and became food for illegal migrants who were illegally brought in, transported and settled in the dead of night all over the nation - and who do not understand our don't-eat-pets protocols.
it's funny that the issue is a big deal to you.
meanwhile - your party HARMS people. Promises more harm, and you cultists all line up to support it.
Francesca Hong Nov 16, 2021. (Now deleted twitter post) "“Cancel Thanksgiving. Should have done this in 1621. If it takes a worldwide pandemic for us to realize we should stop celebrating colonialism and the original superspreader event that killed Indegenous [sic] folx [sic] and women so be it.”
Hong was glad people were dying during COVID in order to cancel Thanksgiving. This is psychotic.
But hey, she's a chef who brings people to the table!!
Headline at The Gateway Pundit";
WATCH: Socialist Wisconsin Dem Gubernatorial Candidate IMPLODES on National TV When Asked About Her Insane Position on Thanksgiving.
Sorry Professor, I don't think its brilliant. I just think she's full of shit, like so many other politicians, especially these days.
Self-soothing? I don't know. Maybe. I do hope the commies that get elected crash and burn quickly so we can end this experiment. Thankfully, we will have the contrast with the sane states that continue to do well under good old capitalism and good conservative stewardship.
Ultimately, I have a strong belief in God, and his Word and therefore know that we are in for some immense suffering eventually. And also that we are in charge of nothing. Not one thing.
Thanksgiving may be “incredibly painful” for people who don’t know how or, more importantly, who, to thank. Hong is the governor they and the people of Milwaukee and Madison deserve. BTW, how much more “beautiful” can political rhetoric be when Collins refrains from interrupting and/or arguing, restraint she reserves for Democrats and other commies?
Brilliant is not a word I would use to describe her answer.
Follow up questions that were not asked by the award winning journalist:
You say "Views can evolve." -- did yours?
When did this evolution happen?
What caused the evolution?
What are your views now?
If your views have recently evolved, are a few votes more important to you than the "incredible pain" felt by "many people" in your community for having to confront Thanksgiving?
"That was a callback to another one of her screwy Tweets. It was about an encounter in Culver's."
I know, but it didn't apply because she WASN'T anxious this time.
In this capitalist hospital, Hong proposes to bring the people to the operating table, for some exciting new experimental procedures. Which reminds me, what's her position on gender therapy for minors?
Whatever else she is, she's a bit of a muse. At any rate she's inspired a fair number of trenchant and witty comments here. Particular props to Bob Boyd at 10:48 who makes the observation that anything you replace Thanksgiving with is bound to inspire more resentment than the original holiday. That's irrefutable and works in other contexts........Well, her training as a chef will help her serve humanity and especially white people. White people are naturally lower in cholesterol and can be barbecued, roasted, or boiled. Any way you serve them, they make a tasty meal. Remember Al Capp's Shmoo. They were funny little white creatures who delighted in being eaten. I see Francesca as the leader of the Shmoo movvement..
Eva Marie said: ‘But voting for candidates like this isn’t abstract - California, and now New York, show what “deserve her” actually costs.’ But that is the point! There is no impending “reconciliation” between “normals” and Democrats/lefties/communists. Either the latter will stop electing, and behaving like, lunatics when it becomes too painful or there will be a harsher, violent response.
Ann Althouse said...
"I know, but it didn't apply because she WASN'T anxious this time."
She wasn't 'anxious' at the Culver's either. She was She was just filled with hatred toward the elderly white Wisconsinites around her.
She doesn't sound like Trump. She sounds like a psychotic and deceitful Georgette from the Mary Tyler Moore show.
And as many above have pointed out, she didn't answer the question.
Althouse--does she--Today--support the cancellation of Thanksgiving, or does she not?
Question to Hong. Will you end Thanksgiving as a state holiday given its “problematic” nature? If not why should the state have a holiday that makes people so uncomfortable?
Nothing better than electing a hate-fueled resentment snake-oil selling Chi Com to "get things done and shake things up."
William said
"White people are naturally lower in cholesterol and can be barbecued, roasted, or boiled. Any way you serve them, they make a tasty meal."
omg - Now I'm hangry.
Please explain why Thanksgiving is hurtful to many people.
There has been a massive anti-Hong push in the past few days.
All on stuff that was already should have been known.
None of the other Dem candidates staked out positions different than Hong’s.
A Dem comfortable with who they are and willing to do the work would have had this race long before Hong caught fire.
Hong’s rise says more about the chaos of the Dem Party than it does about Hong and socialism.
There are about four competitive state senate races. Every Dem candidate needs to be asked if they agree with Hong and what issues of hers they would vote No.
If you get rid of Thanksgiving what happens to Black Friday?
She brings people to the table like in the Cult Classic movie Eating Raol.
On the one hand, having heard her policy positions and read about her personal issues, it's shocking that she is even a candidate for Governor of any state. On the other, she seems to be a perfect Democrat candidate, other than an apparent lack of Nazi tattoos and improper familial relationships.
“I do hope the commies that get elected crash and burn quickly so we can end this experiment.”
Except they don’t.
I keep hoping the progressive experiments fail quickly enough that voters course-correct, but that’s not how it works in practice. Look at California - a genuinely magnificent state with every natural advantage, and Democrat rule has made housing unaffordable, homelessness a crisis, and the middle class an export. Once the Democrats entrench themselves protecting the machine is the priority and the state keeps sliding. In comes no ID voting, mail in voting, vote counting that continues until the Democrat candidate wins, etc. and the graft continues ad infinitum.
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