30 జులై, 2026

"[Senator Bernie Moreno] requested those in the audience to stand up if they had paid a professional, legal, or personal price for dissenting from Covid orthodoxies ..."

"... during the pandemic. The senator then asked Fauci to turn around and look at them. Fauci refused. Then Moreno told the story of a family in Ohio who attended a high school football game in the middle of the lockdowns. 'They went to the stadium. They sat alone, far from anyone else. They didn’t feel they needed to wear masks because it was stupid and they were outside. Dr. Fauci, do you know what happened to . . . that family?' Fauci responded with the line he must have repeated more than a hundred times in the hearing. 'On the advice of counsel I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution,' he said. 'They were dragged out of that stadium and arrested,' [Moreno] said. 'Those policies were put in place because you had moronic politicians that listened to the words of a megalomaniac who was more interested in having met a Kardashian than the suffering of the American people.' Fauci just sat there, stone faced, without emotion...."

Writes Eli Lake, in "Pleading the Fifth Won’t Spare Fauci from the Truth/He claims his Senate hearing was a witch hunt designed to entrap him. But his record convicts him on its own" (Free Press).

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RideSpaceMountain చెప్పారు...

A shot to the heart
Fauci's to blame
He gave science
A bad name

Mark చెప్పారు...

'dragged out of the stadium'
Why exaggerate what happened?

CJinPA చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
CJinPA చెప్పారు...

"They didn’t feel they needed to wear masks because it was stupid and they were outside."

Not the most articulate critique of what were ultimately state and local laws.

We're never going to learn the true origin of COVID because so many are dedicated to moronic theater.

Sydney చెప్పారు...

"'Those policies were put in place because you had moronic politicians that listened to the words of a megalomaniac who was more interested in having met a Kardashian than the suffering of the American people."
I don't know if Fauci is a megalomaniac, but the rest of it is accurate. We had moronic politicians who took the recommendation of media personalities to determine who had the most expertise to deal with the COVID outbreak. The media personalities recommended the guy who was at the top of their contacts for quotes on stories- the guy who was the quickest to answer their calls, because he liked the publicity. Both the government and the media deserve the lack of confidence in them. They earned it.

WK చెప్పారు...

So - hard to tell if this person was dragged out - but they did handcuff her and “applied a taser” in making her leave:

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/attorney-says-school-district-misapplied-law-in-arresting-woman-with-no-mask-at-football-game/

loudogblog చెప్పారు...

I read that he was trying to avoid a perjury trap by taking the 5th. But if you can avoid testifying by claiming that, then what's stopping everyone from claiming that?

I also wonder what has the greater penalty; Perjury before congress or being held in contempt for not testifying?

BobJustBob చెప్పారు...

There's a lovely picture of Fauci at a game not wearing his mask.

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

Fauci could have been more entertaining:

https://x.com/TheUsefulTool/status/2082646693493789098/video/1

bagoh20 చెప్పారు...

"'dragged out of the stadium'
Why exaggerate what happened?"

It was actually worse than that.

mezzrow చెప్పారు...

My granny and best childhood friend die alone while you burn my business down, all based on a lie. Yet, let's be best of friends. Reconciliation, right? Right??

111 refusals to come clean. Leave him to his maker.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Wearing a mask outdoors was the #1 stupid thing during COVID. And there was a shitload of ridiculous stupidity.

COVID was never about safety of slowing the spread. It was about conformity and control. And if you didn't conform, liberals who considered the conformity a moral high ground, wanted you dead.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

This framing confuses political theater with evidence. A witness invoking the Fifth Amendment is exercising a constitutional right; it is not, by itself, evidence of wrongdoing. Likewise, asking Fauci to look at people who disagreed with pandemic policies is an emotional appeal, not a substitute for establishing that those policies were unlawful, knowingly harmful, or based on misconduct.

Public health recommendations during COVID were made under unprecedented circumstances and changed as new evidence emerged. Reasonable people can debate whether specific restrictions, such as school closures, masking policies, or limits on gatherings, were appropriate or lasted too long. Those are legitimate policy questions. But disagreement with a policy does not prove that the science behind it was fraudulent or that officials acted with malicious intent.

The example of an outdoor football game also illustrates the problem with hindsight arguments. Early pandemic policies were often designed to reduce risk in a period of uncertainty, and officials later refined their guidance as more became known about transmission. Criticizing those decisions today requires examining the evidence available at the time, not simply judging them with information gained years later.

Oversight is appropriate, but a hearing should seek facts rather than use personal stories and implied guilt to reach a predetermined conclusion. Accountability requires evidence of misconduct—not simply anger over unpopular decisions made during a crisis.

tommyesq చెప్పారు...

"I also wonder what has the greater penalty; Perjury before congress or being held in contempt for not testifying?"

I still say they should arrest him and charge him for any crimes that would have been covered by the pardon, because by pleading the Fifth he has renounced/refused to accept it.

RideSpaceMountain చెప్పారు...

"Wearing a mask outdoors was the #1 stupid thing during COVID."

My favorite was SWAT team visits to patrons on abandoned beaches. Sand, salt water, and solitude were the most dangerous vectors of the Fauci-Flu, or so the men in tacgear told them.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

The mask bullshit was evident in real time. Politicians would walk to a podium wearing a mask, and then take it off when they started talking. You'd see people in power gathering for a group photo without masks on, and then they would all put on masks for the picture. It was heartbreaking and infuriating to see group photos of little kids at pre-school, all masked. That cruelty.

I swear, those bullshit photo ops of Biden and Harris taking the clot shot, was actually them getting injected with saline.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
"The example of an outdoor football game also illustrates the problem with hindsight arguments."

This isn't a hindsight argument. Millions of common sense American knew it was all bullshit while it was happening. You just bought into the stupidity.

"Hindsight" will be the defense of anybody who swallowed all the COVID lies and forced them upon others. It's a way to cover for embarrassment and stupidity.

Unfortunately, the clot shot running through your veins can't be removed. Neither can a complete lack of self awareness.

Don't forget to get your mRNA booster. St. Fauci and Bill Gates still reccomend it.

hombre చెప్పారు...

For ten seconds, or so, I thought this might have come from the NYT.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

RideSpaceMountain said...
"My favorite was SWAT team visits to patrons on abandoned beaches."

I remember this self-proclaimed intellectual 'friend' was trying to argue on facebook that because airplanes recirculate air, the air inside was actually cleaner than the open air at a beach.

COVID exposed the dumbest among us. #1 was the liberal education community, which is really scary. Now these people want to help children transition their gender without parental knowledge.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

A little girl born with severe birth defects - the mother a school teacher who was FORCED to get all the bogus harmful jabs.

Even the docs at the Hospital admitted it was the jabs.

The collective a-hole left DO NOT CARE.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Soviet leftists like Kak-a-Hole(D) skip right on by the masses of people who were harmed by covid diktats and forced jabs.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Agree -
Kak - please keep getting the jabs. WE beg you.
Obey.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

It's a bit painful to think back on COVID because of the Fauci hearing. I can think of dozens of friends and relatives that were either militant about worshipping Fauci, and virtue signaling their COVID obedience on social media.

It let you see a side of people you didn't know existed to that extreme.

Smilin' Jack చెప్పారు...

“Wearing a mask outdoors was the #1 stupid thing during COVID.”

Not even close. COVID motivated people to discover whole new realms of stupid. The supermarkets here cut back hours (so they could “clean” more thoroughly) and made all the aisles one-way, which made it take longer to get stuff. Since people still needed the same amount of food and had less time to get it, they all had to spend more time moving more slowly through a more crowded store. It’s like the management was somehow being paid off by the virus.

rhhardin చెప్పారు...

A witch hunt differs from a scapegoating, which this is. Pile all sins by anybody on the goat, kill the goat. It's very satisfying, as you can see.

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

Now I'm reading, I don't know if it's true, that Fauci himself suffered a negative reaction to the Moderna shot. Apparently this tidbit was discovered in his diaries.
My first thought was, 'there is a God' (insert civilized good wishes to the witch doctor).

Mary Beth చెప్పారు...

"Criticizing those decisions today requires examining the evidence available at the time, not simply judging them with information gained years later."

We had the Diamond Princess cruise for evidence in February 2020.

rehajm చెప్పారు...

…he’s like if Mengele was on the receiving end of a stern talking to then went on the late nite shows and got standing o’s…

Enigma చెప్పారు...

Outdoor masking: Every single delivery driver, grounds keeper, and laborer wore chin masks. Bright white or blue to show compliance, but nowhere near the nose and mouth. They required better cardio performance to do their jobs.

You could spot the True Believers by their N95 masks -- every last one of them caught the Omicron variant when the Reaper decided to strike.

I myself wore a baseball cap with a useless neck gaiter wrapped around the brim (stealth mode). It sufficed when going into elevators with "stand here" dots 6 feet apart.

Fauci intially knew the science and that viruses are tiny tiny little things that go right through masks. He then adopted the social distancing and masking nonsense and forgot the science. I didn't.

Radar O'Reilly in Ottumwa చెప్పారు...

It was always and only about the election......mail-in ballots

Lem Vibe Bandit చెప్పారు...

My informed speculation is that Fauci didn't want a repeat of what he went thru during the AIDS crisis. Once bitten, twice shy. So, he approved a rushed, untested product, that probably ended up killing more people than the killing it was meant to prevent.

Enigma చెప్పారు...

Not just the election -- in blue places paranoid masking rules continued until well into 2022. Useful idiots.

Left Bank of the Charles చెప్పారు...

If Rand Paul and his Republican Senate colleagues were sincere, their next step would be to propose a Fauci victim compensation fund. We already know that they won’t because they aren’t,

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Left Bank - that would only work if Fauci and his klan of pay to play fraudsters would agree to pay for it.

Howard చెప్పారు...

It doesn't matter how awful it was. The thing is it's in the past. Most people in this country have moved on from the coronavirus disaster and are looking forward to losing their jobs from AI. Mostly, they're concerned about paying more money at the gas pump because a couple of gamma dudes in charge of the department of War and Macho Posturing high on trt with shrunken balls couldn't read a topographic map and decided to choke off much of the world's oil supply.

Howard చెప్పారు...

Maybe you don't remember how Wildly successful it was for the Democrats when they were constantly prosecuting Trump but am I handing him the election in 24?.

Howard చెప్పారు...

The Republican leadership is just keeping you people happy while they flush the midterms down the shitter.

Vance చెప్పారు...

I remember I thought they wanted to stop the virus. Until two things: The funeral of John Lewis, I think it was? Democrats and GOPe types weeping, wailing and praising him, all singing his praises. All in the same room. While all us "common folk" couldn't even visit our grandparents dying alone. Kak and the rest of the left cheer that on. We all remember Newsome partying at restuarants hours after he banned everyone else. Kak supports that. Democrat Governor Whitmer who banned everyone else from boating but her husband wanted to get into the water with a boat for Memorial day.

But the biggest, most egregous thing was when all the leftists said, including all the "scientists" "You cannot go to church but the virus is politically aware so you can riot for George Floyd! The virus won't affect you if you are rioting for leftist causes!" Kak. tells us that is pure science. But after that I knew it was all wrong with Covid.

Vance చెప్పారు...

Oh yes, Howard: We just got a preview of America under Democrat control. In Spain, actually, the city of Ceuta. Where the leftist socialists have openly refused to guard the border, and there are thousands of Moroccans rushing the border to get on Spain's welfare rolls. The videos show a full fledged invasion. And that's what Howard and the Democrats want for America, if they get elected.

Gunner చెప్పారు...

Running against Covid isn't going to do the Republicans any good in three months. People care about high gas prices now.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

The purpose of the hearing was to publicize Fauci's diary. Fauci's diary is all of the evidence anyone needs to expose the fraudulence and corruption of Fauci, the governmental health establishment, and the Covid crackdown. Fauci taking the Fifth was gravy, but it works either way. That's why Moreno was saying "shit" and "fuck" in his public pronouncements. Why Hawley asked Fauci what color his tie is. Why Paul threw one of Fauci's many, many lawyers out of the hearing. Why Paul posted the "teenage girl" meme. Get people talking about it. The diary is poison, and speaks quite eloquently for itself--in Fauci's own really cringeworthy words. The Republicans in Congress aren't always clueless, the ample evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.
Next up--Baric, Dazcak, Scarf Lady? Contrast with the Great Barrington guys? Robert Malone?

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

All Cretans are liars?
Ask Fauci If he's Cretan!
Even if immunized he can refuse to answer --- so there

So why is everyone hellbent on his affirmation as if he's final arbiter of Truth

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

"Criticizing those decisions today requires examining the evidence available at the time, not simply judging them with information gained years later."

There was plenty of "evidence" available at the time and half the country knew it was all bullshit, while the liberal half turned 'science' into a religion.

When smart people saw stupid things being done, like closing beaches, we knew it was all bullshit. Or, a stupid foot of plexiglass between you and a cashier.

Only those that bought into it all and forced it upon others will now say "hindsight is 20/20." That's just self-protection and preservation.

Paul చెప్పారు...

I don't think you guys understand... THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT CARE IF THEY ARE RIGHT OR WRONG... JUST THAT YOU OBEY... OBEY OR GO TO JAIL.... If the government lies... again they don't care. OBEY or go to JAIL.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Gunner said...
"Running against Covid isn't going to do the Republicans any good in three months. People care about high gas prices now."

Nobody is currently running against COVID in 2026. But it is right to expose truths vs. lies so 2019-2023 might never happen again.

Those who were vilified and censored turned out to be correct. It matters.

mccullough చెప్పారు...

His public statements and his Diary show who he is.

Of course, he was the same guy who panic peddled AIDs. Much like the unvaccinated, heterosexuals are still alive.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

Why not Hearing with White Hat Expert vs Black Hat Expert?
One side take 5A , the other lucidate - shine light

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

The Fauci hearing was a textbook example of political theater: a lot of outrage, recycled talking points, and Monday morning quarterbacking, but very little interest in the complexity of managing an unprecedented global crisis.

Criticizing decisions years later with information we didn’t have at the time is easy. Governing through a pandemic required making the best decisions possible with incomplete and constantly changing data. That’s not a conspiracy—it’s the reality of science and crisis management.

The repeated claims that COVID vaccines were a failure are simply not supported by the evidence. They were never promised to be an impenetrable barrier against infection; their primary purpose was to reduce severe disease, hospitalization, and death. By that measure, they were an important and effective public health tool.

Accountability matters, but accountability requires facts—not amplifying theories that have been repeatedly debunked or turning a complicated public health crisis into a partisan blame game. If the goal is to be better prepared next time, we need honest analysis, not political spectacle.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Former NYC Mayor Bill DeBlasio was on CNN with "serious" journalist Kaitlin Collins. He stated: "Every time the Republicans relitigate the past, whether it's the 2020 election or whether it's COVID, it really sends a message that they're totally out of touch with the day-to-day life of average Americans."...."I just don't understand why they wanted to have this hearing, honestly."

COVID was used as a catalyst to implement the 2020 absentee voter fraud. We all know this, so fuck him.

Remember, DeBlasio is the asshole that went on TV, eating a burger and fries, to offer them as an incentive for New Yorkers to get the clot shot.

Those that knew COVID policies were bullshit moved on during COVID. We weren't the nurses posting line dancing videos. It just made us want to puke. We didn't post Christmas family photos on Facebook with everyone wearing a mask (just for the photo). We didn't post "stay home, save lives." We didn't call the cops on children playing in public parks.

Where I live, a Wisconsin red suburb, our schools were fully open, on-site by September 2020. Madison and Milwaukee said we would be wheelbarrowing our dead to mass graves.

Of course people who believed in or pushed this bullshit on everyone else want to "move on." At the least, for the sheep, it is intellectually embarrassing. At worst, specifically for people like Fauci, it was a crime against humanity.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper చెప్పారు...

How valid is the claim Vaccines were EFFECTIVE?

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
"Criticizing decisions years later with information we didn’t have at the time is easy."

The information was available at the time, but liberal fanatics like you wanted it censored. Many spoke out. Doctors who called out the bullshit were vilified. People you probably hated while you worshipped St. Fauci.

All you had to do was watch the stupidity with your own eyes. You embraced it. So of course you want to claim "information wasn't available." It was.

Now looking back, COVID fanatics realize their actions are embarrassing and discrediting.

tcrosse చెప్పారు...

It was obvious that for a lot of people Covid was a proxy for Trump.

Big Mike చెప్పారు...

“Howard said...

It doesn't matter how awful it was. The thing is it's in the past. Most people in this country have moved on from the coronavirus disaster and are looking forward to losing their jobs from AI.”

Part of “moving on” from a man-made disaster is some degree of assurance that steps have been taken to prevent its recurrence. This the Democrat Party as an institution, and the Left, as an amorphous movement, resolutely refuse to do. There is no point in moving anywhere unless and until that happens.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

One of the more fascinating aspects of this latest round of COVID outrage is who it’s aimed at. It feels like a sequel to the “Stop the Steal” phenomenon, a narrative that persists because it’s emotionally satisfying, not because new evidence keeps emerging.

An entire ecosystem of social media personalities, bloggers, podcasters, and influencers has learned that outrage is profitable. The algorithm rewards certainty over nuance, conspiracy over complexity, and anger over evidence. Every hearing, every headline, and every selective video clip becomes fresh content to keep audiences engaged, enraged, and clicking.

Healthy skepticism is essential. But skepticism isn’t believing every claim that confirms your worldview while dismissing everything that doesn’t. At some point, outrage becomes less about discovering the truth and more about feeding an audience that has been conditioned to expect another scandal just around the corner.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

The Fauci diaries are a massive social and political blockbuster, relating to events that hugely impacted the lives of each and every one of us. We all lived through it, and were personally affected. Fauci was the face of the forces imposing maximum inconvenience and maximum coercion.
Now that the truth is exposed, the Dems want to "move on."
Where have we heard that before?

FullMoon చెప్పారు...

J6 Fauci. Charge him with something, threaten 10-20yrs lock-up, offer plea bargain community service. Put him on weekend clean-up work crew for 10 weekends. Make new friends and get exercise.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

IEE is a manifestly dishonest commenter, but an excellent leading indicator of what the various forms of "spin" and distraction are being workshopped.

FullMoon చెప్పారు...

Silver lining in every cloud, Bay Area traffic was delightful, matched only by Obama's recession.

FullMoon చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

"One of the more fascinating aspects of this latest round of COVID outrage is who it’s aimed at. It feels like a sequel to the “Stop the Steal” phenomenon, a narrative that persists because it’s emotionally satisfying, not because new evidence keeps emerging."

The "new evidence" "emerged" on...Saturday. 4 days ago. You disingenuous hack.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

This assumes facts that have not actually been established. Calling the Fauci materials “the truth” skips over the very question under debate. A congressional hearing and selectively released documents are not, by themselves, proof of wrongdoing or evidence that years of scientific research and independent reviews were fraudulent.

It’s also misleading to portray pandemic policies as the product of one individual. COVID guidance was developed and implemented by multiple federal agencies, state governments, local officials, and public health authorities worldwide—often with significant differences in approach.

Critics are free to question decisions made during the pandemic, and there are legitimate lessons to be learned. But substituting hindsight, selective evidence, and sweeping accusations for a balanced assessment isn’t exposing “the truth”—it’s promoting a predetermined narrative. Accountability requires evidence, not conclusions in search of supporting facts.

Calling someone a “manifestly dishonest commenter” is an easy way to avoid engaging with the substance of their argument. Disagreeing with the claim that “the truth has been exposed” isn’t spin—it’s recognizing that allegations still require evidence. Skepticism cuts both ways. Dismissing unsupported conclusions is not a distraction; it’s how evidence-based discussion is supposed to work.

n.n చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
n.n చెప్పారు...

Indefinite Incursions.

Gospace చెప్పారు...

I worked the 16-24 shift. By myself. Alone in a building separate from the actual VA hospital. And refused the shot. People with actual patient contact were fired for refusing. Unless they were somehow connected and sent to fill a non-patient contact vacancy. How we got one extra trainee in the boiler house. Well, not really extra- we needed another boiler operator.

So all of us refuseniks were required to be tested weekly for a virus that we didn't have and had no symptoms for. A colossal waste of money. They couldn't figure out to test me so on shift like they did everyone else so I was ordered to come in off shift to be teste. 2 hours of overtime, by contract.

Except- I was denied overtime because I was told it was my fault I had to come in- which, of course, was untrue. It was their idiotic policies. Didn't matter it was a 40 mile drive and whiteout conditions- I was required to risk my life and drive in for a test that showed nothing. Driving in a whiteout was far more dangerous then the virus.

So I'm still owed over 100 hours of OT pay that I'll never see. If you want- I can name names- the supervisor who denied it. But wait- you have a UNION! Yep, a union that was all in on requiring everyone get the shot. There's no record of them supporting any refuseniks.

Matter of fact- can anyone show if any union anywhere in the USA who supported a refusenik? I don't think that any union that did exists.

Original Mike చెప్పారు...

"One of the more fascinating aspects of this latest round of COVID outrage"

*Latest round* of outrage? My outrage does not come in *rounds*, it hasn't stopped. Millions of people died, you prick, and those who caused it will never be held to account.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

dems want to "move on" from something that killed millions of people. and once again - it's their heroes who did it all. communists in china, money whores in the US.

but they endlessly bitch about Jan 6th!!!!

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

The truth about what the highest public authority knew and did with regard to public policy regarding Covid, in the form of what Anthony Fauci wrote in his own diary, has been exposed. It's right there for everyone, including you, to read for themselves and compare with what Fauci and his minions were telling all of us, telling the President, and using as the basis for the imposition of ever more draconian, coercive and absurd measures; for the initiation and use of massive and unlegislated "mail-in ballot", extended voting, and other changes to election systems which in all likelihood changed the outcome of the 2020 election; for the distribution of massively inflationary trillions of dollars to favored groups; for the greatest "public health crisis," real or ginned up, the world has ever known.
What is "nuanced" about any of that?
Why don't you tell us how it is not an overwhelmingly dishonest and harmful thing for the most trusted scientific authority on Covid to knowingly misrepresent that the projected death toll from Covid is 10 times greater than his own research and the research of his self-selected "team" had determined? For that same authority to lie about what he knew about the very strong likelihood that the virus was lab created and instead promote the "wet market" falsehood?
Where's the "nuance" there?
"The very question under debate" is whether Anthony Fauci, undeniably and in his own words the person most influential with regard to public policy during the Covid crisis, was in fact lying to all of us. That's it. The conclusions to be drawn from the clear and obvious answer are, to a considerable extent, self-evident. The beginning of wisdom is to accept that fact and work from there, not try to bury that truth in a fog of obfuscation. You lying hack.

Kirk Parker చెప్పారు...

IEEE is indeed profoundly dishonest, but every once in a while s/h/it says something accurate, even though inadvertent and in a different way than was intended:

"Public health recommendations during COVID were made under unprecedented circumstances..."

(For those of you in Rio Linda, what was unprecedented wasn't the dangerousness of the virus, but rather the degree of totalitarian government control.)

Enigma చెప్పారు...

Claim the credit when things go well.

Project to dodge responsibility when things go bad.

Routine modus operandi of CAREER politicians. Ignore party labels -- follow the 30-year resumes.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ చెప్పారు...

Millions of people died because a highly contagious novel virus spread around the world, not because a single individual willed it into existence. Anger over that loss is understandable, but assigning personal culpability still requires evidence, not assumption.

And despite years of claims to the contrary, high-quality clinical trials have not shown that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin meaningfully reduced COVID-19 mortality. If either drug had clearly saved large numbers of lives, the evidence would have been unmistakable by now. After years of investigations, reviews, and hearings, repeating allegations with greater conviction still hasn’t turned them into established facts.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Kak-a-hole - evidence does not matter to you unless you can blame MAGA &/or Trump.

Kirk Parker చెప్పారు...

And thanks to Mary Beth for entering the Diamond Princess into the record here. "Everything I need to know about covid I learned in February 2020".

Original Mike చెప్పారు...

"Millions of people died because a highly contagious novel virus spread around the world, not because a single individual willed it into existence."

Not a single individual, but a small number of them. "Willing into existence" is exactly what they did.

Leland చెప్పారు...

The notion that discussing this is "the past" can get the fuck out. As recently as February 2022, I had to get test proving I didn't have Covid one-week before being able to leave the country on a trip. Literally the week I returned, that program ended. No one could explain why the week prior was significantly different than the week later, only that it was federal policy. The same people that implemented that policy didn't require tests to enter the country, because that would have limited immigration. Just like people weren't arrested for being out in public if they could claim they were protesting, unless they were protesting covid mandates (then they would be arrested).

Any decently run business, especially after dealing with a set of events that changed how they do business; would have a retrospective to capture lessons learned. What was done well. What wasn't done well. So that the next time such an event occurred, they would do it better. That hasn't been done at the federal level for Covid. It must be done.

boatbuilder చెప్పారు...

Don Surber thinks Fauci took the Fifth to cover for somebody.
Maybe.
But I think that he was fully prepared to get up there and confidently bullshit everybody like he's been doing for decades. Before the diary dropped. Then he had nothing to say.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Ka-a-bot
You yourself turn non-established fake-facts into established facts all the time. You really needn't lecture us. You are as fraudulent as your leftist masters.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Fauci took the fifth to cover for himself and others - and the media.

Mason G చెప్పారు...

"Running against Covid isn't going to do the Republicans any good in three months. People care about high gas prices now."

Right now, gas is over a dollar a gallon cheaper than at it's peak, when Joe Biden was president.

Jim at చెప్పారు...

*It doesn't matter how awful it was. The thing is it's in the past.*

Fuck that and fuck you. You assholes took two years of our lives. Two years. I will never forget, nor will I ever forgive.

We were right. You were wrong. About all of it.
The least you people could do right now is shut up for once.

Big Mike చెప్పారు...

“And despite years of claims to the contrary, high-quality clinical trials have not shown that hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin meaningfully reduced COVID-19 mortality. If either drug had clearly saved large numbers of lives, the evidence would have been unmistakable by now.”

This is plain and simply not true.

Fred Drinkwater చెప్పారు...

Fauci made innumerable public statements regarding Covid. ONLY NOW, after his own personal record has been added to his "public statements" does he plead the fifth.

Vance చెప్పారు...

Note how IEEE is suddenly all worried about congressional grandstanding and selective fact finding. Where was that when Pelosi's kabuki theater Jan 6 committee was suppressing evidence and hearing from fabulists claiming that Trump was literally lunging at his secret service people in an attempt to go murder Democrats? IEEE lectured us about how important this stuff was then! Now it's "Why look back? Don't worry! Just ignore and never, ever, ever hold a Democrat accountable for anything, ever!"

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
"One of the more fascinating aspects of this latest round of COVID outrage is who it’s aimed at."

The justified outrage is aimed at Fauci, and people like you who were completly wrong.

I don't want Fauci in jail. He lays in his bed at night knowing this is his legacy. So do you. That's why you are squirming, and asking to "move on."

You are "fascinated" by this? That alone represents the detachment from reality, and a complete lack of self-awareness.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

People who worshipped and promoted St. Fauci, and watched him yesterday, now know, he was full of shit. And that leads them to worry....

"OMG. If everybody knows Fauci was full of shit... then they know I'm full of shit too... or at least am willing to eat a big bowl of it."

Therefore, it's in the past, and time to move on. Hindsight is 20/20.

Gusty Winds చెప్పారు...

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ said...
"Millions of people died because a highly contagious novel virus spread around the world, not because a single individual willed it into existence."

Fauci didn't "will" COVID.

He helped CREATE it while is a huge position of power. And then lied about it. That's worse.

My compliments on the rhetorical soft shoe. "Willed it..."

Rustygrommet చెప్పారు...

Here's one for ya rich. Would there have been covid without Fauci?

Mason G చెప్పారు...

One might reasonably conclude that someone who helped create a highly contagious novel virus and didn't bother to ensure that it was properly contained ought to share in the responsibility for the deaths that were caused by its release.

Even if that person was pardoned by a machine.

Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...
ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.
Peachy+2 చెప్పారు...

Fauci ok-ed the torture of dogs.

The hack soviet media/big pharma/ lied about ivermectin.

The cult left screamed about "Horse paste!" - to honor their leftist pharisee religious masters.

Bob Boyd చెప్పారు...

Silver lining: Fauci and company completely destroyed Americans' faith in US public health agencies. That faith was entirely misplaced and it needed to be destroyed. It was based on a perceived competence and integrity that were entirely illusory.
Unfortunately we need a public health system, but can ours be re-built? Not with the the same people who were/are part of the current one. We'd have to completely start over. I don't see that happening. Maybe individual states can take some measures and work towards cooperation in nationwide emergency scenarios. I don't know.
Can RFK Jr accomplish such a task? He's under constant attack by those who oppose serious change, especially personnel changes.

If they really want answers, why isn't the Senate questioning Fauci's underlings? How far down did the preemptive pardons go?

Jamie చెప్పారు...

IEE is pulling the usual BS: pretending that the argument is about X when it's about Y, and "responding" to an argument that's not being made.

The argument, you mendacious tool, is that Fauci's public pronouncements, which led directly to policies that harmed and even killed millions of people and destroyed untold billions? trillions? of dollars of production, were directly opposed to his private beliefs and the evidence he was basing those beliefs on, as revealed in his personal diary.

You are pretending that the argument is that these hearings were intended to produce incontrovertible evidence of (for one thing, for example) the lab leak origin of COVID. Since that's not what the hearings are doing (since it isn't even remotely what they're in place to do), you're claiming that they're a political witchhunt. You're pretending that these hearings are intended to condemn Fauci's COVID recommendations ex post facto despite the fact that in the midst of a global crisis, public officials have to make the best calls they can based on incomplete information that may later be shown to be incorrect, and hence that the condemnations are unfair. But what the hearings are actually demonstrating is that Fauci made public recommendations for COVID response that were AT ODDS WITH both his beliefs about how COVID spreads, whom it harms or kills, and how many it kills, and the evidence HE WAS SEEING on these subjects.

In other words: what the hearings are actually about is how Fauci used his celebrity and his public platform to MISLEAD the WORLD (let's be realistic - everyone was watching him) as to how dangerous COVID was, what we should do to protect ourselves and others, and - importantly - how and where it arose. He wasn't simply wrong, as anyone might have been in an emergent global crisis. No - he HAD EVIDENCE that contradicted what he said publicly. He BELIEVED that evidence. He RECORDED his beliefs. And yet his public pronouncements, on which US policy and a substantial amount of other countries' COVID policy were based, downplayed or denied that evidence.

What are you defending?

Original Mike చెప్పారు...

I have a theory. My theory is that Rich is paid, not by the number of words he types, but by the number of words that are typed back at him.

It's just a theory.

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