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"The center’s mixed messaging is incarnated in the Janus-faced facade of the tower whose eccentric cuts and grooves from some angles..."

"... can bring to mind the heroic architecture of Louis Kahn or a Noguchi sculpture. When sunlight after a rain turns the gray stone pink, the building can look like a beacon. But from other angles, it’s cold and forbidding. That’s a jarring vibe for a project whose most groundbreaking ambition is to reimagine the presidential library as a warm, welcoming community hub.... From the street the carved granite words from Selma are illegible, the lettering bunched together like Cheerios in a box. Standing just below it in Jackson Park, the tower looms like a castle keep, its mass and height in tension with the park’s pastoral beauty and origins...."

Writes the NYT architecture critic Michael Kimmelman, in "Obama Center’s Two Sides: A Lovely Park and a Forbidding Tower/In Chicago, the $850 million Obama Presidential Center aims to remake a neighborhood with a 19.3-acre community hub and a brooding 225-foot museum." (NYT).

৮০টি মন্তব্য:

William বলেছেন...

If the anointed one had anything to do with it, it must—by definition—be perfect in every way.

The gun-clingers and religion-clingers are simply too out of touch to understand or appreciate.

J Scott বলেছেন...

Why does that one 'thing' painting? sculpture, look like pulled teeth.

n.n বলেছেন...

Equal opportunity plaudits and criticism marks a milestone in our national cultural development and forward-looking community viability.

narciso বলেছেন...

The obama center for kids who cant read good

Smilin' Jack বলেছেন...

"The center’s mixed messaging is incarnated in the Janus-faced facade of the tower whose eccentric cuts and grooves from some angles can bring to mind the heroic architecture of Louis Kahn or a Noguchi sculpture.”

I guess as an architecture critic for the NYT he had to find something nice to say about this eyesore, and a little name-dropping “from some angles” was the best he could do.

Fred Drinkwater বলেছেন...

"in tension"
BS. Like with the new "Darth Vader" museum in Golden Gate park, the phrase you're looking for is "deliberately insulting to its surroundings".

Just an old country lawyer বলেছেন...

The Obama Center is the visual definition of Stalinist Brutalism.

Peachy বলেছেন...

It's another democratic money-suck.

Aggie বলেছেন...

Janus, huh? So many hidden meanings. Two-faced, cold as stone, and the very name contains an *sshole.

narciso বলেছেন...

Well he had nothing to do with selma

narciso বলেছেন...

I would havr thought cerberus three headec dog

Iman বলেছেন...

It should read: “You Can Keep Your Doctor”.

Temujin বলেছেন...

It doesn't take an architecture critic to know ugly when one sees it. As for the pastoral beauty of Jackson Park, you can kiss that goodbye. It's all about Barack. Him will always be present.

Iman বলেছেন...

…or, “Hands Up, Don’t Poot”

Not an oldster. বলেছেন...

Why Chicago and not Hawaii though?
She wasn't the prez, he was.
She was Chicago, never to retu4n...
He was always Hawaii, through and through...
You peopl3 fell for it: he had black skin and thus was South Side. Neverminf the banker grandma and wwII vet who raised hi, nttawwt, while his mom was off globetrotting with international lovers. He was raised wealthy white, private schools, nttawwt. If he were from Chicagoland, he'd be more Kennilworth than South Side.... butnyall voted for the myth, the likable, too cool for school, know it all with dark skin...

He's still trying to sell that shit and give us advice, even though when they got in, the Obamas were kinds clueless... and hostile to working class whites as they rubbed elbows with the monied elites in DC.

Michelle's not happy. Ain't no Chicago girl envying her trapped life... Barack's just a lightweight doing what they tell him. He's not leader, no fighter either.... Biden should have taken his arrogance down a peg and pushed back when Barry called him VP when Biden has nabbed the top slot himself, with all that So Carolina backroom help when the US all decided to drop out and let Joe win because th blacks in So Carilina had their demands of Dems too.

We're a DEI, not a competitive or even competent nation anymore. People want the paychecks and the status, but like with the lae school profs, they hate the work and really all want to be doing something else... like blogging or hiking or gardening or raising animals. The work for pay though? It's not a calling or a passion, just a way to get your needs met.

Mary Beth বলেছেন...

I do not know what is "heroic" about buildings that look like boxes stacked on each other.

Eric Trump released what looked like some A.I.-assisted slop in March.

"AI slop". Was it actually poorly produced or is this more of denigrating everything AI? Or is it slop because "Trump bad"?

rhhardin বলেছেন...

It needs more gold accents.

narciso বলেছেন...

I think data republican showed the grift pyramid this stands on

narciso বলেছেন...

Money donated to build Obama library sent on to Tides group https://share.google/bVBjDGyaW9YNvV1Ey

Known Unknown বলেছেন...

Surprised there is no "Cheerios" tag.

Known Unknown বলেছেন...

Obama Library Cliff Notes:

1. The Exterior sucks
2. Featured artwork in and around is surprisingly good
3. The exterior sucks

Dave Begley বলেছেন...

When you lose the NYT....

Dave Begley বলেছেন...

"From the street the carved granite words from Selma are illegible...."

Shameful.

Howard বলেছেন...

It would have been much better if they made it out of concrete with the facing showing the grain of the plywood forms. Brutalist light is lame

Mary Beth বলেছেন...

Shouldn't it have been Alpha-Bits instead of Cheerios?

rehajm বলেছেন...

Eye of Sauron topper woulda been perfection

Saint Croix বলেছেন...

from the street the carved granite words from Selma are illegible, the lettering bunched together like Cheerios in a box.

Tower of Babel

Ficta বলেছেন...

"The Obama Center aspires to remake a historically poor, Black neighborhood across 19.3 acres of storied Jackson Park."

Color me dubious. That's at the end of the Midway at the southern edge of Hyde Park (a very very not poor area of town) right next to the Museum of Science and Industry (tourist central) and the University of Chicago neighborhood. Granted it is around 60th street, which is near the south edge of "the good neighborhood", but I used to live on 61st street in student housing and I think the "safe" parts of town have actually expanded a little since then. It's also in Jackson Park, all of which was generally considered safe, as I recall it. So I'm not sure I'm buying the urban renewal aspects. 63d Street could be pretty dodgy though, so maybe there's some kernel of truth there.

Achilles বলেছেন...

I wonder how many illegal aliens and homeless druggies will get to live in there.

Enigma বলেছেন...

Leftists with unlimited budgets always reveal their souls: Man in the High Castle, Soviet, Brutalism, and most importantly, Designed by a Committee of the Faithful.

When even the lefty left left left NYT uses language like "brooding", "looms like a castle keep", "forbidding", and "Cheerios in a box", the vomit-o-rama cannot be denied.

Nomination for a permanent nickname: "The crushed Costco giant-sized Cherrio's box." First-time tourists will mentally pair it with The Bean as examples of Chicago's kitchen kitch public art.

Achilles বলেছেন...

Over under on the number of registered voters who live there and have ballots mailed: 54000.

Hassayamper বলেছেন...

Eye of Sauron topper woulda been perfection

Indeed. When I see it I get sort of a mishmash of vibes between Barad-Dur, the Ministry of Love from 1984, the worst commie-block architecture from the Soviet Union and East Germany, and a toppled Imperial AT-AT walker.

F বলেছেন...

"Tower of Babel" is a specific example of what this really is: a Mesopotamian Ziggurat, a "sacred temple to honor a city's patron," according to people who study pre-Islamic Middle Eastern civilizations. All except the basketball court. The ancients didn't do hoops.

Enigma বলেছেন...

@Ficta right next to the Museum of Science and Industry (tourist central) and the University of Chicago neighborhood.

How do you gentrify an area and push out the unwanted without calling it gentrification?

Peachy বলেছেন...

"Eye of Sauron topper" - LOLOL. totally.

Caroline বলেছেন...

Obama’s greatest achievement was repackaging himself as a foot soldier in the Black Struggle.

narciso বলেছেন...

Also alliance headquarters in firefly

Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

The last sentence in that Obama quote, up the side of the Library says; "Oh, what a glorious task we are given to continually try to improve this great nation of ours." That line is good enough to imagine it coming from the lips of any of our previous presidents.

Until you compare it to the core tenet of "Social Justice". Quoting from ai "Social Justice two sides of the same coin": "Privilege and Oppression: Like two sides of a coin, systemic advantages and systemic disadvantages exist in tandem. Addressing social justice means dismantling the structural barriers that oppress some while confronting the systemic privileges that benefit others.

"Dismantling" and "confronting" does not immediately spring to mind "continually trying to improve". Improving; I would generally submit to mean, we have something good to start with.

I avoided using "great", not because "great" the word is not great, but because I believe "great" can always be improved. (leaving people alone helps) That's the greatness of America. The greatness that gives me goosebumps.

Ampersand বলেছেন...

Janus faced aptly describes the Obama secret power.

BarrySanders20 বলেছেন...

Has "Janus-faced" ever been used as a compliment? I think the architecture reflects the ambivalence and disinterest of its namesake.

JK Brown বলেছেন...

Soviet ugly. So it fits in Chicago

“The aesthetic of "ugly" or sterile buildings is primarily attributed to Soviet-style Brutalism and Bauhaus-inspired modernism, rather than a unique American communist tradition. In the US, this architectural style was adopted by liberal academic institutions and the liberal left in the 1920s–1950s, who embraced socialist ideals and rejected "bourgeois" ornamentation in favor of functional, egalitarian design.”

narciso বলেছেন...

Fundamentally transforms that no bill of rights famine and genocide

Lazarus বলেছেন...

the lettering bunched together like Cheerios in a box

Bad metaphor. "Like sardines in a can" would have been better if it weren't already a cliche. "Like Alpha Bits" the letter shaped cereal might also have been better. The letters reminded me more of alphabet soup, or rather the little pasta letters that used to be used in school projects.

ChrisC বলেছেন...

Alternate reality NYT headline: "Remarkably ugly and depressing structure tarnishes Obama's legacy: It's not just hideous, everyone hates it and he also trampled community interests to get it built"

mikee বলেছেন...

I, for one, not only admire the audacity of hope, which is a promise of a possibility rather than the accomplishment of anything real, but I also thrill to the "C'mon, man!" dementia addled sensibility of Obama's grifter of a Democratic Party successor, Joe and his enabling non-physician Doctor Jill.

Ask AI about plans for the Biden Presidential Library and the second sentence reads: "The project is in its early stages as the team seeks to secure the necessary funding." To read that is to confirm that the grifter has lost his ability to produce largesse for tribute.

TheDopeFromHope বলেছেন...

I went to HS 3 blocks away, all boys Catholic school. Michelle Obama’s brother also went there. I tell ya, those Robinsons really had it rough. Always oppressed. They’ve destroyed beautiful Jackson Park, thanks to gutless judges, and after the initial glow wears off, the only people going there will be school kids dragooned into a field trip. We’re ack to forced bussing.

TheDopeFromHope বলেছেন...

Back to forced bussing.

John henry বলেছেন...

the German National Socialists built a bunch of towers like this during WW part 2 as air raid shelters. Great ugly things almost impossible to demolish. They called them Flaktowers.

You can see some here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower

FLAK was antiaircraft fire. A Flack is a politician's mouthpiece who is hired to put a positive spin on something dreadful.

We should start calling Obama's tower a "Flack Tower". We could even call it "Obama's national socialist Flack Tower"

John Henry

John henry বলেছেন...

rehajm said...

Eye of Sauron topper woulda been perfection

You asked, I answered. Don't worry, you won't get cooties from the link:

https://bsky.app/profile/jimmy3jay.bsky.social/post/3mndimjtnr22y

John Henry

John henry বলেছেন...

I did not like the first try and asked Grok to show people fleing in fear. Nope, Grok told me.

So I asked Grok to show peple fleeing

Nope.

I asked to show people running away and got this.

John Henry

John henry বলেছেন...

mikee said...

I, for one, not only admire the audacity of hope,

Monica was known for her ability to swallow anything, even Billy Jeff telling her he loved her.

Don't be a Monica, Mikee. (Jes funnin ya)

And a video to that point: https://bsky.app/profile/jimmy3jay.bsky.social/post/3mn6u3thue22h

John Henry

narciso বলেছেন...

How did blue sky let him get away with that

Leslie Graves বলেছেন...

It's bad enough that you have to wonder if a dynamic arose during the design process where many people could tell it was bad, but since no one else was pointing that out, everyone kept quiet.

John henry বলেছেন...

Narciso,

I keep pushing the boundaries over there and keep wondering when I am going to get kicked off. But I loudly and frequently present myself as a POC (person of color) and whenever someone criticizes me say that they are racist. While denying that, because I am POC, I can possibly be racist. Only white folk can be racist. Doesn't matter that my skin is whiter than Casper's ghost, as a Puerto Rican I am officially "brown"

I also point out in my profile that I am NOT republican, that all my presidential votes have been for McGovern.

Come on over, it is fun to screw around over there. I'm @Jimmy3jay there We can follow each other and get into flaming fake arguments.

John Henry

John henry বলেছেন...

Leslie Graves said...

It's bad enough that you have to wonder if a dynamic arose during the design process where many people could tell it was bad, but since no one else was pointing that out, everyone kept quiet.

It's called "The Abilene Paradox"

"I can't believe we went to Abilene when nobody wanted to go to Abilene."

I learned it back in grad school in the 70s. This video looks like it may be a copy of a copy of a copy of that original tape. Still worth watching.

https://youtu.be/HM-XyALCGXM?si=QXO-KCjrOpTHKZq4

John Henry

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

" the tower looms like a castle keep, its mass and height in tension with the park’s pastoral beauty and origins...."

"in tension" what a weird word choice. Why not "Clashes"? Too strong? And why throw in "origins"?

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

Kimmelman can't write - but then he is a NYT's critic. Is English his second language?

"can bring to mind the heroic architecture of Louis Kahn or a Noguchi sculpture. When sunlight after a rain turns the gray stone pink, the building can look like a beacon."

I dunno what is "heroic about Kahn Sculpture". he's just grasping to say something good about the Stalinist concrete bunker that obama put up. And I'd say a lot of Kahn architecture, whatever its merits when viewed from the INSIDE, are remarkably ugly.

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

In tension = in contrast?

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

People mock Trump's taste, but he would never pay for a "Heroic Louis Kahn building" or approve something as ugly as the Obama's library.

Dude1394 বলেছেন...

It looks very communist

narciso বলেছেন...

They abuse the language like ike turner

narciso বলেছেন...
এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।
Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

More cowbell.

J L Oliver বলেছেন...

This is one building that will been visually improved by being covered with graffiti.

J Severs বলেছেন...

"the tower looms like a castle keep": Mr. Kimmelman understands the message of the building.

Jamie বলেছেন...

a little name-dropping “from some angles”

It has a great personality! And, if the light's juuuust right...

Known Unknown বলেছেন...

"It's called "The Abilene Paradox"

I just read about this in Dave Trott's book Crossover Creativity.

Trott is a legendary Brit ad man.

Indefinitely Extended Excursion™️ বলেছেন...

It could do for this part of Chicago what Guggenheim Bilbao did for this port in Northern Spain, described as "struggling, polluted industrial city in steep decline, often described as a "post-industrial wasteland" with high unemployment and a tarnished reputation.

Jamie বলেছেন...

Indefinitely @6:26, hope springs eternal!

Jimmy বলেছেন...

Obamas 'gift' is to show us just how ugly, and sterile his ideal society really is.
Oh and the German Flak towers of WW2 look nice compared to that concrete dildo he put up

james বলেছেন...

"The shadow of that hyddeous strength, sax myle and more it is of length"

boatbuilder বলেছেন...

Indefinitely @6:26, hope springs eternal!

With audacity, no less.

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Trump seems to be abandoning things, and I hope he abandons that triumphant arch. That’s as bad as the Obama building and a lot more cynical.

narciso বলেছেন...

Obsms scams the citizens of chicago for 10 years likr the annenberg fund

Christopher B বলেছেন...

At Instapundit even The Guardian is not holding back ...
‘Like a Klingon prison’: inside Barack Obama’s audacious, near-windowless, $850m presidential library

Lazarus বলেছেন...

It's not going to be any kind of tourist magnet. The immediate neighborhood is gentrifying, and the Obama library will steal the credit for that (if they can make it sound politically correct), but it won't redeem the rest of the South Side.

Louis Kahn? Why not Le Corbusier --- heaps of cement and strange, irregular windows?

Josephbleau বলেছেন...

“ Trump seems to be abandoning things, and I hope he abandons that triumphant arch. That’s as bad as the Obama building and a lot more cynical.”

That is just what about ism. “Sure it’s bad, but what about Trump?” And you are imputing a higher degree of cynicism to Trump’s arch. Why? Do you think Obama’s motives are open and pure while you deny Trump an expression of old fashioned classical public expression? What do you think Trump’s inner motive is?

Quaestor বলেছেন...

That looks more like a Nazi flak tower than a library.

Tina Trent বলেছেন...

I don't think this compares with one triumphal arch. Those are normal things to see in a capital city. I like brutalism when done right. This isn't done right. Remember, Obama has long been contemptuous of Chicago. This is his latest dump on certain targets.

Rustygrommet বলেছেন...

How fitting it looks like a Borg spaceship.

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