Althouse: "This day is historic in Alberta history. It’s the first step to the next step — we’ve gotten by Round 3 and now we’re in the Stanley Cup final."

11 મે, 2026

"This day is historic in Alberta history. It’s the first step to the next step — we’ve gotten by Round 3 and now we’re in the Stanley Cup final."

Said Mitch Sylvestre, head of Stay Free Alberta, at the Elections Alberta office today, with 7 trucks to delivering what is said to be almost 302,000 signatures — 178,000 signatures are needed to trigger a vote.

Quoted in "Alberta separatist group submits signatures for referendum on leaving Canada" (MSN).

Daniel Béland, a McGill University poli sci professor, said: "Right now, support for independence in Alberta is rather low. Less than 30% and much lower if we only focus on hard-core supporters...."

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Achilles કહ્યું...: The people of Alberta want to work and build their own prosperity.

They are tired of the thieves and parasites in Ottowa and Toronto.; 11/5/26 03:08 PM
RCOCEAN II કહ્યું...: Alberta should leave. But you'll never get 51 percent. Too many stupid people. Too many Chicken Littles. Too many conformists. Ship Canada is sinking, but they'd rather down with them.

Look at the struggle for the UK to leave the EU. The same 10 percent of the UK public that was saying "OMG we cant leave the EU" during the referendum, are now saying "OMG we cant go back to the EU".; 11/5/26 03:10 PM
bagoh20 કહ્યું...: 68% on the Titanic when down with the ship.; 11/5/26 03:16 PM
NKP કહ્યું...: What percentage in The Colonies supported "The Declaration" and "The Revolution"?; 11/5/26 03:20 PM
Original Mike કહ્યું...: Perversely, I fear a poor showing is just going to embolden Carney and his ilk.; 11/5/26 03:21 PM
Hassayamper કહ્યું...: Perversely, I fear a poor showing is just going to embolden Carney and his ilk.

Obama and Alex Soros just had a closed meeting with Carney. I suspect that vote fraud will be rampant.; 11/5/26 03:23 PM
Aggie કહ્યું...: The population of Alberta province is right around 5 million, so 300k signatures represents a little over 6%. I think it all depends on how well they message this. One thing about Canada, they are blessed, in a way. All the raving liberals are mostly in Quebec, the Maritimes, and Ontario, and all they do is feast off the wealth of the western provinces like Alberta.

The American Revolution started with something like the same numbers. Once the British over-reached, a lot more colonials stepped up. I don't think Alberta will ever secede, but it's going to be fun to watch, as Carney drives the bus toward the cliff, to see who else wants off.; 11/5/26 03:25 PM
RideSpaceMountain કહ્યું...: I dream of a fantasy statehood league where we can trade Minnesota. We could do worse than Alberta and I'd still consider it fair.; 11/5/26 03:26 PM
tcrosse કહ્યું...: The Western provinces are colonies of the Laurentian provinces, Ontario and Quebec. Great wealth is extracted from them and very little returned. No wonder they want to be de-colonized.; 11/5/26 03:56 PM
john mosby કહ્યું...: "the first step to the next step" is kind of like "a large rock the size of a small rock." It also would make a good masthead motto. CC, JSM; 11/5/26 04:12 PM
Mason G કહ્યું...: "This day is historic in Alberta history. It’s the first step to the next step — we’ve gotten by Round 3 and now we’re in the Stanley Cup final."

The Stanley Cup Final is the last step. And the first step to it is not Round 3. But aside from that...; 11/5/26 04:15 PM
mccullough કહ્યું...: Baseball metaphors surpass hockey metaphors.; 11/5/26 04:26 PM
Josephbleau કહ્યું...: Canada can’t afford to let Alberta go, what’s left is not sustainable. Canada will need to resort to the arguments of the British in relation to India. It’s the British Empire that owns the wealth of India, not the local inhabitants, and independence does not mean that the local occupants obtain the wealth. That is why it is difficult to achieve independence without war, way settles the issue of economic rights clearly by power.

There is a slim chance that Alberta will vote itself out of Canada however these things can snowball and go against the trend quickly if conditions go the right way. It will be true hypocrisy if, after the 1995 Quebec vote which was allowed by the courts, the government view changes as it must, and disallows this one.

I would guess that if the vote is yes there will be a 30 year process of procedural stalls leading to a very watered down kind of fake independence over time.

Best Alberta Strategy: Absolutely vote yes, you will get nothing for saying no. Force the federal government to oppose you, they will always over play their hand, then you will win.; 11/5/26 04:27 PM
MadisonMan કહ્યું...: Things I learned today: A sustained rat population in Alberta does not exist.; 11/5/26 04:38 PM
Mason G કહ્યું...: "Baseball metaphors surpass hockey metaphors."

Well, it *is* Canada, after all...; 11/5/26 04:46 PM
Iman કહ્યું...: They’re stocking up on back bacon and Molson Golden.; 11/5/26 05:01 PM
imTay કહ્યું...: Being the Stanley Cup playoffs, I have been watching the CBC Hockey Night in Canada and all that, which I get over the air, great picture, BTW. But I see ads during the games touting Saskatchewan, "Highest grade uranium deposits in the world!" and nothing about this in the news, "The National," which comes on between periods, so I am not sure that they are scared yet.

Lot of ads for full sized Chevy pickups and for joining the military too.; 11/5/26 05:18 PM
narciso કહ્યું...: The tories split in 2019 allowing the ndp in; 11/5/26 05:21 PM
narciso કહ્યું...: આ ટિપ્પણી લેખક દ્વારા દૂર કરવામાં આવી છે.; 11/5/26 05:21 PM
imTay કહ્યું...: When Quebec makes noise like this, it's usually a play for bribes to keep them in the confederation, Albertans can expect no such sweeteners to vote no.; 11/5/26 05:23 PM
Lawcruiter કહ્યું...: It will be interesting to see who becomes the champion for the Federalist (the "no") cause. When Quebec experienced its referendums - there were significant celebrated Federal political figures with deep Quebec roots (e.g. Pierre E. Trudeau, Jean Chretien) arguing against separation. It seems like the best hope for the "nos" in Alberta is pure inertia.; 11/5/26 05:34 PM
AZ Bob કહ્યું...: I visted Vancouver Island a couple summers ago. My rental car had Alberta plates. I was asked if I was from Alberta and I explained I was not. I asked why it mattered. I was told something to the effect that "we consider Alberta as cowboy country."; 11/5/26 05:41 PM
tcrosse કહ્યું...: Canada has experienced zero economic growth in the past ten years, which coincides with the premiership of Justin Trudeau. The priority of the current premier is Net Zero, which leads to de-industrialization, as it has in Germany. There are members of the current cabinet who would prefer that Alberta leave its petroleum and natural gas in the ground.; 11/5/26 05:47 PM
Lloyd W. Robertson કહ્યું...: Can't a trade be negotiated, Alberta for Minnesota?; 11/5/26 05:47 PM
RMc કહ્યું...: Fun fact: Alberta-based teams have lost their last four Stanley Cup Final appearances: Calgary in 2004 and Edmonton in 2006, 2024 and 2025.; 11/5/26 05:48 PM
Howard કહ્યું...: Oh the prairie lights are burnin' bright
The Chinook wind is a-movin' in
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound
Though I've done the best I could
My old luck ain't been so good and
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound
No one I met could e'er forget
The Rocky Mountain sunset
It's a pleasure just to be Alberta bound
I long to see my next of kin
To know what kind of shape they're in
Tomorrow night I'll be Alberta bound
Alberta bound, Alberta bound
It's good to be Alberta bound
Alberta bound, Alberta bound
It's good to be Alberta bound; 11/5/26 05:49 PM
Iman કહ્યું...: “Can't a trade be negotiated, Alberta for Minnesota?”

Fuck it… throw in Washington state as a sweetener.; 11/5/26 06:01 PM
Achilles કહ્યું...: Iman said...
“Can't a trade be negotiated, Alberta for Minnesota?”

Fuck it… throw in Washington state as a sweetener.

No.

The invading barbarians need to be expelled.

You don’t surrender land to animals just because they smell bad and fling their poo.; 11/5/26 06:10 PM
Mason G કહ્યું...: “Can't a trade be negotiated, Alberta for Minnesota?”

Fuck it… throw in Washington state as a sweetener.

Canuks seem to like having a warm place to go in the winter, I'd suggest throwing in California instead.; 11/5/26 06:10 PM
Craig Howard કહ્યું...: No prediction here but a preference cascade can materialize suddenly.; 11/5/26 06:12 PM
Ampersand કહ્યું...: The people of Canada, and Alberta, seem to treasure their separateness from the US. They should be able to continue doing that.
Anyway, the US couldn't absorb Canada without a number of adverse unintended consequences.; 11/5/26 06:12 PM
Iman કહ્યું...: Calunicornia!?!? Too close to home and far from the border. If we go that route, I’d make it Massachusetts.

That’d be wicked bitchen.; 11/5/26 06:16 PM
narciso કહ્યું...: Well they are adjacent to montana; 11/5/26 06:28 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit કહ્યું...: ai: “In Alberta, there is no constitutional "right to bear arms" as seen in the United States. However, the Alberta government has recently moved to enshrine "the right of individuals to legally acquire, keep, and safely use firearms" into the Alberta Bill of Rights.”

Well, it was a nice thought.; 11/5/26 06:31 PM
Lazarus કહ્યું...: When Quebec experienced its referendums - there were significant celebrated Federal political figures with deep Quebec roots (e.g. Pierre E. Trudeau, Jean Chretien) arguing against separation.

Quebec's provincial elections are in October and the PQ is expected to win. If they do, there will -- if the signs are right -- be a referendum there. Carney has some French Canadians in key positions in his cabinet, though we never hear about them in the states. Nobody of the prestige of Trudeau Sr. though. Did the Québécois even think of Trudeau Jr. as one of their own?; 11/5/26 06:33 PM
gspencer કહ્યું...: "Daniel Béland, a McGill University poli sci professor"

True to form, always include a left-wing "expert" to throw cold water on the effort.; 11/5/26 07:12 PM
rehajm કહ્યું...: So at my dad’s golf club there was a McGill prof who said he taught a class on TV. Thinking it was an economics oriented class I asked him about the competitive environment for content providers. He had no idea. I think they just watched TV all semester..,; 11/5/26 07:22 PM
Hassayamper કહ્યું...: Anyway, the US couldn't absorb Canada without a number of adverse unintended consequences.

Alberta, for all its vaunted conservativism, is conservative only by comparison to the rest of Canada. They like their "free" government health care as much as anyone else in the country.

If admitted as an American state, it would be no more conservative than, say, New Jersey, and would usually send two Democrats to the Senate. They would have 6 or 7 representatives, and I'd bet 4 of them would be Democrats, depending on how the Congressional districts were drawn.; 11/5/26 07:54 PM
narciso કહ્યું...: Actually alberta was thd seat of the reform party that had a pretty good run until it waa absorbed by the pcs; 11/5/26 07:57 PM
Paul કહ્યું...: We will see.... if they quit Canada we may vote for them to become states... but that is a maybe... or just become territories.. like Guam and Puerto Rico. Or just an independent country. They do have a lot of oil...; 11/5/26 08:07 PM
Hassayamper કહ્યું...: Absorbing Alberta would be bad enough, but taking in the rest of Canada, especially Quebec and Ontario, would be a true disaster.

Democrats would control Congress and the White House for decades, and they'd be commie termite Democrats like AOC and Mamdani too, not the patriotic likes of Tip O'Neill and Scoop Jackson. It would probably mean civil war and the reshuffling of the North American borders into two or three or four new nations.; 11/5/26 08:08 PM
Achilles કહ્યું...: Meh. Voter ID ends the democrat party.

California flips the day you have paper ballots, voter photo ID, and purple thumbs.; 11/5/26 09:12 PM
Mason G કહ્યું...: Photo ID? Like the communists in NYC required in order to work shoveling snow?; 11/5/26 09:36 PM
tcrosse કહ્યું...: Alberta uses the Metric System and British spelling, which it would have to get over if it wanted statehood.; 11/5/26 11:56 PM
deepelemblues કહ્યું...: Support for secession at almost 30% is low? That's a dangerously short sighted way of thinking, if you're someone who wants to keep secession from happening.; 12/5/26 12:37 AM
Josephbleau કહ્યું...: What Alberta needs to do is the opposite of common sense, it needs to raise local wages very high and spend double on health care than what the other Provences do. It needs to tax the oil and cancel sales and property tax. Make sure that there is nothing left over for the east to grab. If they can make that stick they don’t need independence, spend everything there is on yourself and see how much others can steal.; 12/5/26 01:53 AM
Rustygrommet કહ્યું...: Yeah, Joe. But they'd still be part of Canada.; 12/5/26 06:52 AM
Michael કહ્યું...: 2004. Global security conference. Thomas Barnett, a high civilian strategist at the Pentagon. In discussion about 51st state, as others talked of DC or Puerto Rico, Barnett told the audience to place their bets on Alberta and Saskatchewan. Canada seen as entering political instability and USA would want to secure oil and mineral reserves. We'll see.; 12/5/26 06:52 AM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent કહ્યું...: “Support for secession at almost 30% is low? That's a dangerously short sighted way of thinking, if you're someone who wants to keep secession from happening.”

That’s what struck me. For what is a fairly new, and quite radical, proposal, 30% is a stratospheric number, No, the referendum will not succeed the first go-around. But with 30% support, it isn’t going away, either.; 12/5/26 11:56 AM
Known Unknown કહ્યું...: "The Stanley Cup Final is the last step. And the first step to it is not Round 3. But aside from that..."

Well a Canuckian team haven't won the cup in over 32 years so they probably don't really remember how the playoffs really work.; 12/5/26 02:45 PM
Known Unknown કહ્યું...: 30% in 2026 is potentially 50% or more in another 4-5 years.

It took Southern fire eaters 10 years from the Nashville convention to finally convince their fellow citizens to seek segregation from the North.

Also, no one can predict if a Black Swan event would occur that would either derail the secessionist movement or amplify it.; 12/5/26 02:55 PM

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