@sj_in_china Shopping Alone in a Fully Unmanned Convenience Store in China!🇨🇳 #china #中国 #chinatiktok #conveniencestore #unmanned ♬ original sound - SJ
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Shopping completely alone.
It is possible — apparently — but you will need to be in China and, presumably, sacrifice your privacy for safety and convenience? And wouldn't most Americans sacrifice privacy for safety and convenience? I'll say, no, we won't, because we wouldn't believe that we'd get the promised safety and convenience. We'd just be giving up our privacy for not much of anything.
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…sure there’s niches of kind of that in a few places, Amazon Go or the airport kiosks or the snack shack at the golf course. The joke is Duane Reade and CVS are like that already except the paying part I guess…
Hmmm. Stores lose a lot here from the self-checkouters. I wonder how much they lose with only AI watching in China. Maybe not so much more, especially if there are consequences for stealing. Whatever you grab include some alcohol and drugs - that could knock you off the organ donor list.
I’ve seen convenience stores like that in US airports.
Smaller scale here, but all the technology is the same for scaling up.
It's a shame we don't have a high-trust society! It doesn't have to be CCP China though. See Japan and Singapore as examples.
You need your phone to get in, and you are seen the whole time you are there. I presume that if you do anything wrong, your phone ID will get deactivated and the system is instantly enforced. Can you even open the door to your own apartment now? Can you ever buy anything ever again? They don't even have to arrest you. You must comply.
"...could knock you off the organ donor list." Or maybe put you at the top of the donor list?
"And wouldn't most Americans sacrifice privacy for safety and convenience? I'll say, no, we won't, because we wouldn't believe that we'd get the promised safety and convenience. We'd just be giving up our privacy for not much of anything."
Most? Probably not. A lot? Yes. All lefties.
Quit believing everything you see on Tik-Tok.
If this were in the US, gangs of "youths" and "teens" - euphemisms the media uses to indicate black people - would empty these stores in minutes.
China has a high-trust society because they put people in prison, whereas in the United States, Democrats have made it legal for black "youths" to shoplift from stores up to $950 worth of merchandise.
We have what's known as a "low-trust" society, also known as a "third-world hellhole" society, where criminals are allowed by black prosecutors, black judges and black grand juries to run rampant over everybody else (see Somali fraudsters stealing billions of white taxpayer dollars in Minnesota as an example of this - or the black grand jury that allowed Leticia James to do a lot of bank fraud you or I would be arrested for because we're white).
In the US, there would be someone waiting outside for you to exit. They'd grab the door before it closed and start clearing the shelves.
I should have pointed out in my earlier comment that China has no black judges, black prosecutors or black juries. They don't let black people into their country.
I hope that drunken raccoon doesn't find out about this.
What privacy am I sacrificing that I haven't already by using reward cards? Flock and Axon cameras are tracking my drive to the store. I'm being videoed while in the store. I use a rewards card to get discounts, so all of my purchases are being noted.
Yeah, I loved the code words at the end: "impossible in other countries because China is a high trust society". What that means is china is homogeneous, and the other countries are diverse due to immigration and minorities. We have stores in the USA that have to close because of theft. Imagine how long a unattended store would last? Maybe a week.
China also puts people in prison. OTOH, the American elite has decided to only put a fraction of criminals in jail. Hence, people getting arrested 30 times until they murder someone.
In China westerners that shill for Chinese companies are known as "white monkeys".
Every utterance out of China is propaganda.
In China the government just shuts off your credit card. You can't buy anything.
It's what the globalists want everywhere.
He calls this 'high trust'? This is the opposite of high trust. You are locked out until you show your ID information. They know who you are, and if you are to be allowed into that store. You can be sure there are cameras in the store, and they know what you have picked up and what you are buying. They know everything about you right now, including the pro-China video you just made on TikTok which will grant you credits in their society to allow you to continue to stay and make more 'pro-China' videos.
Right now, today, while passing through our airport here in Sarasota, I can walk into one of the markets, grab what I want, and go to a scanning table to scan and pay for the goods without any interaction with anyone.
This is not the world I want to live in, but this is the world as it's becoming quickly. Right now in San Francisco, you have to get a store manager at a local CVS or Walgreen's (if they haven't yet left SF) to open a case and allow you to grab a tube of toothpaste. They used to be trusting in San Francisco. Too trusting until it killed the city. It's true that in China, their long-time lack of trust has not killed their civil society. Under the CCP, they've never had a civil society. They've long had a fear based, then control based society. First you kill millions. You instill fear into the populace that lasts 100 years. Then you continue to monitor them and occasionally just disappear their neighbors. That's how you keep control. At that point you can allow convenience markets to operate without any human present.
I hate the world we're turning into, where so many companies have already offloaded their 'customer service' centers to an Ai program that offers no nuance to any questions, and accepts no questions it's not programmed to deal with. This is not customer service. It's customer abuse. It's ducking actual service. But, hey....look at those labor costs!
I don't long for a world in which the preferred way of life is to avoid human interaction. I don't see that as healthy for anyone.
It's ironic that China is called "high trust" when the government spies on its people relentlessly.
I used to teach at an academic summer camp in Hong Kong. Like in the US, programs like this run at college campuses. One of my 11 year-old students left his wallet on the window sill in the large cafeteria. The wallet was still there, two hours later.
Why is there no one working at the convenience store? China has plenty of people. What happens to the low-level, untrained workers?
On a trip to Oslo, every convenience store was staffed by someone not descended from Vikings. In Norway, entry level immigrants do those jobs. It isn't that different in Ohio.
For an unattended convenience store to be viable, low-level workers must be doing something more productive.
Ocean wrote: "We have stores in the USA that have to close because of theft.
We need to clarify why these stores are closing. It's not because of theft. There has always been theft. Who amongst you as a kid didn't kite the odd candy bar at 7-11 while mom wasn't looking and the cashier was busy?
Stores are closing because there are no more prosecutions. No more jails. No more consequences to theft. Wholesale theft by gangs of "youths" and "teens." Drug addicts just walking out with whatever they want, while you're in line to pay. Like a fucking idiot.
If you are one of the few people still paying taxes in the United States, you are a fucking MORON. Your hard-earned money is being STOLEN by a bunch of imported hood rats and shipped off back home to Somalian terrorists.
And Donald J. Trump isn't doing a god-damned thing about it.
China has their own demographic crisis. They don't have the excess population to work in a convenience store. Also why they are pushing for robots to do all sorts of delivery services and unmanned taxis. i think the comments about "high trust" are accurate about what's really what's happening here. There isn't a chance to avoid punishment here, not exactly trusting. Maybe if there was a high chance to create bogus credentials and ids, but biometrics are getting really good.
Here’s Amazon explaining their stores: https://youtu.be/j9iNEhn4NmE?si=HeUs2FqaVKr2AdeV
Agree, it doesn’t necessarily use one’s phone (it can with an app), also a credit card works or biometrics.
The other aspect is something similar to what's happening in US cities. The service class of people simply can't afford to live close enough to where they are needed. So either you have a sort of dormitory system (UAE, Saudi, US Ski resorts) with transit, or you have automation, or as they are trying in some US places, you subsidize housing for the service class (which becomes a huge grift all by itself).
I recall working in the Boston area, nightly cleaners for the biopharms would be driven into Cambridge from Fall River or Lawrence. Similar pressures.
I think there is a meaningful difference between a high-trust society (Japan, Singapore) and a surveillance state (CCP China).
Wilbur for the win!
nightly cleaners for the biopharms would be driven into Cambridge from Fall River or Lawrence
Illegal aliens would be driven into Cambridge in the dead of night to avoid ICE.
All approved by their Chinese mayor. American cities (and some European) have been taken over by corrupt foreigners. See New York, Boston, London (now a province of India).
It's a concerted effort to steal these countries from white people.
In high-trust societies like Japan and Singapore you can use cash and remain anonymous. People just don't steal there (Singapore: 7 years in prison for shoplifting). In Japan, it's a monoculture that doesn't steal. Japan is like it was when I was a kid (65 years ago), there wasn't much stealing going on until the Vietnam era (Steal This Book!).
There's a difference between privacy issues and high-trust societies.
in the US - signature verification voting is itself - a scam. it's a really great way to allow mass cheating - if necessary.
It's not a high trust society. It's a police state.
I presume that guy is living and working in China. I doubt he'd post a video that wasn't complimentary of the Chinese system. They'd kick him out or worse.
He's probably a tool of theirs, compromised by a happy ending provided by an underage girl in a massage parlor. They can trust him not to mention human organs trafficking.
Our system works great, comrade, including when we decide that your social credit score tells us that you shouldn't be shopping for the things inside our stores. Then we won't let you in. Or, maybe we'll let you in, but not out.
We already have self-checkouts at the airports and a few other places, usually with one clerk keeping watch. As far as I can tell, all this has done is shift the aggravation load from the clerk to the consumer, in the same way that pump-your-own gas did. The clerks are quite comfortable ignoring you when you have a question, or giving you a surly answer. What do they care? Your transactions no longer concern them.
Now I am reading that, depending on the metadata being collected on us individually by the Borg, mostly as a result of loyalty programs, one Joe can be charged a given price at the supermarket while another Joe right behind him might get a different price for the same thing. Surveillance Pricing is the lovely term coined for this social psychopathy. 'We think you should pay more, based on your profile'. There was no requisite notification mechanism mentioned, so it's all conducted stealthily, apparently. I think they should change the name, in the interest of accuracy. Actually, I think it should be against the law and banned, and am surprised to read that it hasn't been already. No mention if it might be race-based.
The worst tyrannies can be the passive-aggressive ones.
And wouldn't most Americans sacrifice privacy for safety and convenience? I'll say, no, we won't, because we wouldn't believe that we'd get the promised safety and convenience. We'd just be giving up our privacy for not much of anything.
This is bullshit.
We just have to throw criminals in jail and deport the illegals from the country while allowing citizens to arm themselves.
Stop with the false choices.
James K said...
It's ironic that China is called "high trust" when the government spies on its people relentlessly.
The high trust is that the people can trust each other.
They sacrifice freedom to achieve high trust.
In the US we used to throw criminals in jail and enforce immigration law. We had freedom and high trust. We were also a christian nation.
This will happen again but the democrats need to be removed with the foreign soldiers they imported.
The US has a tradition of farm stands. Where the farmer, or gardener, puts out fresh produce, eggs, bread etc., and we leave cash in a bowl held down by a rock. That is high trust.
Unfortunately, now I notice lots of video cameras at the stands. So we are losing the high trust in the countryside too.
And wouldn't most Americans sacrifice privacy for safety and convenience? I'll say, no, we won't, because we wouldn't believe that we'd get the promised safety and convenience. We'd just be giving up our privacy for not much of anything.
@Althouse, you see it because you’re smarter than most people. But there would be plenty who’d readily sacrifice their privacy for not much in exchange. A majority? Maybe.
Funny, he doesn't look Chinese ...
Yes, Big Mike. We call those people, "Democrats".
Mary Beth said...
What privacy am I sacrificing that I haven't already by using reward cards?...
More then just that. Lately a lot of places I'm in for the first time, particularly small places without their own accounting systems, ask if I want my receipt emailed- and have my correct email address. No matter which one of my credit/debit cards I've pulled out.
I'm beginning to wonder why any store even gives out paper receipts without asking that. Walmart sends a receipt to my phone if I want. A few others ask me if I wanted it emailed. None of them default to- Do you actually want a paper receipt? To which the answer would be "NO!".
“Shopping completely alone.”
Sounds great to me. When I’m shopping other people are just in the way, and human cashiers just slow things down. As for privacy, you can put my shopping list up in skywriting for all I care.
Bob Boyd said...
"It's not a high trust society. It's a police state."
It's both. But people want to believe that it's just a larger version of North Korea. It's not.
I traveled around Europe by train back in 1974. My first step when arriving in a new city was to temporarily store my luggage -- usually that meant a check room or locker. In Greece however you could leave your possessions completely unattended in the waiting room of the train station. Nobody would touch it, this was a point of pride. (Sadly Greece is no longer as safe.) That was genuine trust and I think quite different from China's electronic surveillance state.
But people want to believe that it's just a larger version of North Korea.
I don't believe that. China is China. Unlike North Korea, it's highly engaged with the rest of the world.
Who are these people you refer to?
I stand by my assertions that China both entraps foolish and naive foreigners and traffics human organs from unwilling donors.
I don't think any police state qualifies as a high-trust society in the way we think one here in the west, which is that people generally do the right thing because it's the right thing, not because they know someone is always watching and their punishment will be severe.
"And wouldn't most Americans sacrifice privacy for safety and convenience? I'll say, no, we won't, because we wouldn't believe that we'd get the promised safety and convenience. We'd just be giving up our privacy for not much of anything."
Much of america already gives up privacy in exchange for a few clicks, likes, or thumbs up. They're online exhibitionists and hardly give a shit about their privacy.
Give us convenience or give us death.
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