From "Despite Supreme Court Wins, Elite D.O.J. Unit Has Seen Mass Turnover/Even with an exodus of lawyers, the Office of the Solicitor General has had remarkable success. But fiery rhetoric and close White House ties have raised concerns" (NYT).
I'm fascinated by the way the first 2 sentences of that headline state cause and effect in 2 different directions.
"Despite... Wins... Mass Turnover" suggests that usually people don't leave a successful team.
"Even with an exodus of lawyers... remarkable success" suggests that teams usually aren't successful when lots of people leave.
It's not incoherent though. The point is that the Solicitor General's office has adopted a forceful position that is both successful and repellent.
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Everything is always collapsing around President Trump. "The walls are closing in!"
Oh noes...anyways
"Elite D.O.J. Unit Has Seen Mass Turnover/Even with an exodus of lawyers, …"
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the exodus has consisted of lefty lawyers.
You need a "Rigorous Argument Bullshit' tag.
After watching the leftist cabal on the Supreme Court play politics over and over again , they should be treated as a purely political agency.
This team succeeded even before he was president
The scorpion judges arguments have been just that ridiculous
“Could imperil,” but then again, perhaps not. Right?
From where I sit the cases reaching the Supreme Court are the result of some Distric Judge having TDS, so why shouldn’t the Office of the Solicitor General respond to the TDS?
"makes the office sound like 'a zealous ideologue" Whereas previously, the SG was scrupulously nonzealous and no ideologue. So much easier when you are not faced with lawless TDS obstruction by low-level Dem judges.
According to the leftwing critics of the SG, this is conduct unbecoming of a public official .
This is almost a "Fox Butterfield" headline.
Even after the exodus of comfortably entrenched lawyers, the DOJ has been remarkably effective.
The article seems to want us to judge the turnover a bad thing independent of results. Same way they always want us to judge Trump.
I don't think the Justices are really expecting that these lawyers won't reflect the politics and fight for the agenda of the man in the White House, whoever it is.
Here's just another expert unrolling prestigious credentials in order to bring us just another NYT "Trump is not normal" narrative vessel. Day in day out year after year. So tiresome.
Build a team that can move the ball down the field and put points on the board. The other teams' fans don't like those plays? That's a good thing!
Maybe they leave for better paying jobs?
Reminds me of another infamous NYT headline:
"Crime Keeps on Falling, but Prisons Keep on Filling"
"...the solicitor general’s office has appeared to be an unusually functional corner of a Justice Department...rocked by mass departures and internal chaos.....racked up a record of wins on emergency applications.....even liberal critics describe as impressive....."
It takes a bit of skill to craft compliments as criticism, just because it's Trump.
Maybe Trump sees building his Executive as a process of distillation, where you establish a feed of large volumes of raw material and boil off the fractions that you neither need nor want, leaving only the essential ones remaining.
Trump drives out Swamp Critters! And that’s a fail?
AZ Bob,
That was precisely the aforementioned Fox Butterfield
It’s interesting that the NYT doesn’t bother to quote from the offending introduction but they just characterize it as fiery language.
So is this a confession by omission?
If it's not a violation of civil service laws and just a deviation from traditional practices, the administrative state must serve at the pleasure of the executive.
Trump is showing Democrats how to consolidate and perpetuate power when they next are in charge. Ask not for whom the Overton Window moves, it moves for thee.
If one side is remarkably effective, the other side is remarkably ineffective. Why would that be? Maybe that’s the better angle of this story. That would call for introspection, though, and we can’t have that.
I would be disappointed if there wasn't massive turnover in the DOJ. The DOJ was deliberately corrupted and overstaffed by Obama and Biden for political reasons.
Oh my the Rhetoric Police are at it again! Have they also asked Ketanjee to cool down her rhetoric and stop slogging the CJ and other associates?
Or is, as is usual, the call to have Rhetoric Police only because of Orange Man Bad. Have they no lefty lawyers submitting AI slop available to criticize today? Pretty sure the hunting for outrages is more plentiful over there!
NYT saying something bad about Trump = it's a lie.
Any Justice who thought the Solicitor General's office was "a trusted counselor that presents the justices with rigorous arguments that interpret the law consistently, no matter who occupies the White House" is an idiot.
On the other hand, perhaps that simply means that the office used to rigorously and consistently interpret the permanent government's view of the law. But the new employees, former outsiders, are pushing their own interpretations.
Hmmmm. An executive branch department has ties to the president. Who knew?
Oh boomer...
The deadwood is leaving...
The office is getting more successful.
Duh.
Ah the NYT--worrying about non problems. Why one might recall a disgraced former VP's words; "Nattering nabobs of negativity". Agnew may have been corrupt, but he sure knew how to call them as he saw them.
charged rhetoric/fiery language
rigorous arguments
These are not mutually exclusive. Are they winning because of fiery language? Does this mean the Supreme Court isn't evaluating the case based upon rigorous arguments of law, but rather emotions?
Why do I feel like all these "neutral" lawyers that are quitting may not be all that neutral? They would rather lose cases rather than appear not be neutral? Somehow, I think the turnover is completely acceptable.
"Professor Lazarus"
Not me, but it has a nice ring and I won't object to the title.
Maybe paradox is baked into the solicitor general's office. One has to appear to be "a trusted counselor that presents the justices with rigorous arguments that interpret the law consistently, no matter who occupies the White House," while one promotes the administration's agenda with such force and cleverness as one can muster. So many solicitors general, from William Howard Taft to Elena Kagan, have gone on to become Supreme Court justices. The office may provided some training in appearing to be above politics, while actually being quite devoted to a partisan agenda.
Kirk Parker,
Thanks. Now I know what the Fox Butterfield effect is. Well, I knew it but I didn't know it had a name.
Probably 90% of DOJ attorneys are progressive-woke liberals, hired by progressive-woke liberals, who don't believe in constitutional provisions and federal laws which conflict with their progressive-woke liberal talking points. They're just part of the problem, part of the TDS contagion. Trump is more liberal that patron saint of progressive liberals - JFK.
...you don't like Trump. We. Get. It. You know, the thing about disruption is it's disruptive...
The point is that the Solicitor General's office has adopted a forceful position that is both successful and repellent.
But it's only "repellent" to evil leftists scumbags who otherwise would be working to sabotage the Administration.
Reality check: there are no honest Democrats left in gov't. the Democrats have dropped the mask, they are about power for the Left, and NOTHING else.
"a trusted counselor that presents the justices with rigorous arguments that interpret the law consistently, no matter who occupies the White House"
There are no Democrat lawyers in the gov't who are that honest, who would give the honest law when it helped the Right. Which is why the Biden SG didn't hop in to point out there was no way the 14th Amendment gave State officials the new power to deny ballot access to Federal candidates (a position so obvious that SCOTUS ruled 9-0 that Colorado was wrong).
It wasn't Trump who "de-profesionallized" the Solicitor General's office, it was Biden and the Dems
Howard said...
Trump is showing Democrats how to consolidate and perpetuate power when they next are in charge. Ask not for whom the Overton Window moves, it moves for thee.
No, Howard, the Dems showed TRUMP how to consolidate power, and he's following their playbook.
That "exodus of lawyers" is the Left's foot soldiers, imported by the Biden Regime, being driven out. They only got in in the first place because conservatives and honest moderates / lefties were previously driven out
Lawyers who are successful are offered partnerships and generous salaries. I think it's appropriate that Government offices be staffed by short term professionals.
"The Harvard Law School professor Richard Lazarus ..."
So, you're quoting an enemy combatant.
When in the past did a Solicitor General have to deal with massive political corruption in the District Courts prodding the Executive Branch to tell the federal judiciary to “pound sand.”
Are carp isnt sticking use more carp
It has to be at the direction/behest of POTUS Trump.
"Are carp isnt sticking use more carp."
Huh?
"Our" carp.....
Good to see executive branch lawyers calling out lower-court judges as the hacks they are.
Did the Harvard Reagan Era lawyer oppose Amnesty?
The U.S. is either a country or a spot on the map like Mesopotamia.
Sometimes enough rats leave that the ship stops sinking.
The subtext of the story
ESR talks about "Fracture Day": June 5th, 2020, when "trust the experts" was murdered by the public health "experts" pronouncing that the BLM riots were acceptable, whereas the anti-lockdown protests were not.
Belief that we could trust Dem lawyer "experts" in the SG's office to be trustworthy counselors that presents the justices with rigorous arguments that interpret the law honestly also, correctly, died
https://x.com/esrtweet/status/1871772092716191863
They cant address the subtext of the arguments because they have no legal objection
https://whitecollarfraud.com/2025/12/01/obstruction-of-justice-how-47-doj-leaks-and-9-complicit-newsrooms-targeted-the-letitia-james-prosecution/
Speaking of turnovers, the leaderless FBI has had more than its share, and from the NY Post, we discover that Kash Patel is on the way out. Here is one incident reported:
Kashyap and the case of the “medium-sized SWAT-team raid jacket
On Sept. 11, 2025, the day after Kirk was assassinated, Patel flew into Provo, Utah, on the FBI jet but “would not disembark from the plane without an FBI raid jacket,” according to a “highly respected” source who has served in the FBI for multiple decades.
“Patel apparently did not have his own FBI raid jacket with him and refused to step from the plane without wearing one,” according to the report.
FBI special agents at the Salt Lake City field office, busy working on the Kirk case, “had to stop and ask around to find an FBI raid jacket — a medium-sized one — that would fit.”
When a jacket belonging to a female agent was delivered to Patel on the plane, he complained that “two areas on the upper sleeves did not have Velcro patches attached.”
Patel would not leave the plane “until he had two patches to cover those areas,” so “members of an FBI SWAT Team took patches off their uniforms and ran those patches over to Patel “at the airport. The patches were then attached to the loaner FBI raid jacket, and Patel “disembarked from the plane.”
Here is Patel at the Press Conference.
Andrew Bailey, FBI co-Deputy Director (and Bongino's babysitter) will likely be the next FBI Director if Patel goes.
The previous solicitor general made ridiculous claims like eternal lockdowns puttjng opposition candidates in jail over thoughcrime et al
An assistant solicitor general during the Reagan Administration?
Straight from the top!
If the Supreme Court justices are bothered by "fiery language," they can say so. They are not impressionable toddlers.
In November 2020, Lazarus was named a volunteer member of the Joe Biden presidential transition Agency Review Team to support transition efforts related to the United States Department of Justice Wikipedia.
There's a shocker.
So he probably picked cop killer clarke
As several folk have noted, there's a Fox Butterfield flavor to the headline. But I wonder if the NYT journo knew it should really have been "Because" rather than "Despite." It's that old knave/fool question again.
But tyrannical District Judges are fine.
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