I'm reading "Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise’/In a memo, the Microsoft co-founder warned against climate alarmism and appears to have shifted some of his views about climate change" (NYT).
If only the "billions" he's spent alarming people had been spent directly "improving lives in the developing world." Is he now spending his billions advising the rest of us to putting our efforts into improving lives in the developing world? He's still investing in businesses premised on climate change. I can't unravel the complexities, but I don't like the way people have been manipulated into feeling immense anxiety about an imagined apocalypse.
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We still only have ten years left.
Now change climate change to vaccinations. Bill Gates is evil.
The climate has been changing since, well it's always changing.
Bill Gates gave 50 million to Kamala Harris's campaign.
This is a watershed moment. The CAGW radicals have now lost Bill Gates. Others to follow.
Nothing wrong with cleaning up the environment.
the left turn their crusades into cultist zealot evangelism.
"The Science is settled" - is something a flat-earther would say.
Once again Will has the answer: "Will someone rid me of this turbulent priest!"
Bill Gates is still on the same ego trip.
He did for the climate what he did for American schools. He spent money, then changed his mind about the underlying premises after accomplishing little or nothing. Enjoy your meat, folks.
ManBearPig (Al Gore) needs to be mentioned anytime it's brought up, in any context. He was the jumping off point for alarmists and, in his own personal dealings, one of the biggest hypocrites.
It appears that, like many progressives, Bill mistakes "raising the alarm" for actually solving the problem.
Much like Obama on the rollout of health care reform: "We thought passing the legislation was the hard part. Actually implementing the policy should be easy."
It sure is funny that now that Microsoft wants to build AI datacenters everywhere, climate change is manageable.
Cool story, Bill. Now tell us what you did with Epstein.
Tolling the catastrophe bell isn't working, and Bill Gates finally notices.
Bjorn Lomborg and William Nordhaus nod and sigh, "Finally..."
Andrew Carnegie had it right. Build libraries across the nation. Millions finally had access to a library and the community ran it so it wasn’t outsiders trying to control the masses.
What Curious George said at 9:32. The vaccination campaign is potentially much more dangerous than the climate doodoo. His ego is evil.
The energy demands of AI are apparently enormous.
We can’t allow climate alarmism interfere.
...yes Fred, they tried to crucify Bjorn Lomborg for the same position Gates has taken...
Gates spewed bullshit for years and years-... and now he changes his bullshit so he can stay 'relevant'..... climate change was a scam all along folks.. and they scammed your money via taxes.
Holy hand grenades what would Gates be doing had the Biden cabal been elected?
Paul: My lecture to the South Dakota Stock Growers Association on this topic is called: The Greatest Scam in the History of the World. It is on YouTube. I quote Ann Althouse at the end!
This is why Bill changed his tune.
Notice how Dem politicians have also stopped talking about climate change? The Dem brand is so badly damaged all their signature issues have become toxic.
Ann wrote, " ... but I don't like the way people have been manipulated into feeling immense anxiety about an imagined apocalypse."
It has many characteristics of a religion.
"I don't like the way people have been manipulated into feeling immense anxiety about an imagined apocalypse."
Hmmmm. Ticks you off, does it? Welcome to the club.
"This is why Bill changed his tune."
Maybe.
Along with (Trump) hatred, (climate) fear are the chief organizing principles of the modern Democrat Party. While effective at turnout and fundraising, such primitive appeals to flight or flight response don't lend themselves to moderation or compromise ---- in fact the opposite. The extreme tendency plays out in real world consequences (ever more anti-Trump antifa Democrat leaders, high energy prices) that generate push-back from the voting population. But the logic (really illogical emotionalism) of the self-righteous can't accept that.
Don't get too excited. 40% of the population need a crusade and people to point fingers at. Defeating CAGW does not defeat these temperance people, they will find another messianic cause. We will look back on the CAGW days as the good ones.
I attended the NE Wind and Solar Conference last week. The Greens admitted that they have act now to get those tax credits.
I was also informed by a lawyer who makes $3m per year from his tax credit grifting clients that I'm a Communist because I oppose wind and solar.
How dare he!
D.D. Driver nails it, sorta. In the Wisconsin aspect of the question, at least. Here's the same point writ in hundred-foot-high letters.
The global warming religion and its climate change sect stand in the way of Gate's overarching desire, specifically regaining his lost position as the world's richest oligarch.
Expert in one thing, expert in all things. It’s a disease that primarily afflicts the rich. Examples are legion.
It sure is funny that now that Microsoft wants to build AI datacenters everywhere, climate change is manageable.
Exactly. It's what you might call a segway.
Imagined hypacolype? Why should I ignore the views of the vast majority of climate scientists? Why should I ignore the warming of the earth
Because Epstein buddy, monopolist, ballroom donor and major fossil fuel consumer says so?
The vast majority of climate scientist are closeted ballroom donors.
Italics begone.
"How dare he!"
How dare he, indeed. And how dare Little Miss Thunberg, the Doom Goblin, herself, turn her ample back on looming planetary extinction in favor of the Final Solution, Part Zwei?
i honestly hadn't thought about the AI electric demands switching him around.. Now that y'all've mentioned it; it makes perfect sense
Wow this is going to give the Climate Cultists whiplash.
They are really just humiliating all of the retards that sign up for these little side quests.
Democrat voters are just happy to be treated like fucking idiots and clowns.
jim5301 said...
Imagined hypacolype? Why should I ignore the views of the vast majority of climate scientists? Why should I ignore the warming of the earth
This is how stupid you have to be to be a democrat at this point.
Dave B, I was once pitched by a startup building windmills for backup power for the burgeoning warehouse business in California's central valley. After a couple of diligence meetings, I remarked to my colleagues that what we were really contemplating investing in was "the stability and rationality of the California legislature." (The business model depended on subsidies. You're shocked, I'm sure.)
We walked away.
Making life better in the developing world means increasing their industrial capacity.
Doesn’t that also entail increased carbon emissions?
Even smart guys like Gates become total bullshitters when their money and egos are on the line.
The readers' comments are interesting. Not a single favorable one I could find, not merely among the most liked, but period. The NYT readership is monolithic on this issue at least.
Jupiter writes,"Maybe."
Additional context.
Evidently, the LVM prevented Gates from offering his get-vastly-richer-quick scheme to the nuke-friendly Trump administration, and tried to gift it to the ChiComs, instead.
Cool story, Bill. Now tell us what you did with Epstein.
When you are right you're right, DDD.
Get Windows to work decently and then come back to us to save the world.
I'm thinking they've all agreed that they've tapped this thing out to the point where there are simply too many people who have entered the game at the same time the money involved in it is drying up.
Al Gore made millions on this.
As did Bill Gates.
Greta Thunberg became globally famous (infamous?) scolding seemingly adults with "How dare you" taunts and now quickly pivoting to parading in favor of Hamas.
Millions made millions on this. Entire industries were born. Entire projects were funded with billions, then disappeared.
And so, the Grand Grift is gone. Long live the New Grand Grift, whatever it may turn out to be.
A small side note. None of any of this will mean shite in about 20 years if the productive countries don't start producing more children.
Didn't he actually do something pretty world-changing about malaria? DDT-infused netting made available all over sub-Saharan Africa through his foundation? Credit where due.
" the Doom Goblin" hehehe - stealing that.
"Nothing wrong with cleaning up the environment."
Reducing carbon emissions has nothing to do with cleaning up the environment. In fact, it takes resources away from projects that actually would be valuable contributions towards doing so. But, I occasionally hear statements along the lines of, "do you want rivers to be on fire again?!" Cause complaining about cow farts stops rivers from spouting flames, somehow.
Trump winning on all fronts! Regular in Kingston, NY: $2.75. DOW hanging for weeks near historic high. Big wins coming in SCOTUS on unitary executive and Federal supremacy in immigration law. Too much winning!
"Making life better in the developing world means increasing their industrial capacity."
Indeed, it does. But was that not a peripheral consequence of 19th-century colonialism? The three-fold sine qua non of an industrial society are law, order, and a high-capacity transportation system. The colonial powers, particularly the British imperialists, created these things in Africa and India, and spent themselves into penury doing it.
It was the ambition of Cecil Rhoads, the third runner-up in the Most Hated Man poll of American academics behind Donald Trump and Adolf Hitler, to build a railway linking Cape Town to Alexandria. Had it been completed, it could have done for Africa what our transcontinental railroad did for the United States. Unfortunately, Marxism spoiled everything. India built on the ruins of the Raj and prospered, but the Africans just built more ruins, and the trend continues unabated. Showoffs like Gates and Hewson, the ludicrous Bono, enjoy spending other people's money in Africa, ostensibly in pursuit of lofty goals, and for the most part the money has hardly made a dent in the squalor and misery. Cultural reform must come first, but I haven't a clue as to how to bring that about.
The best way to adapt to a changing climate is to make humanity rich and prosperous. The best way to do that is to ensure we have cheap and reliable energy. In other words, oil.
Jamie writes, "Didn't [Bill Gates] actually do something pretty world-changing about malaria?"
Uh...No.
From Google AI: A graph of new malaria cases in 2023 shows approximately 263 million cases worldwide, an increase from 252 million in 2022. The highest concentration of cases remains in the World Health Organization (WHO) African Region, which accounted for about 94% of the total cases, with Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of the Congo having the highest numbers globally.
Good for him. He’s smart enough to have known this for decades, but better late than never, I guess…
Has anybody else heard about Elon Musk's Grokipedia, launched yesterday? Here's a blurb from its #1 competitor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grokipedia
Ann wrote, " ... but I don't like the way people have been manipulated into feeling immense anxiety about an imagined apocalypse."
Climate change?
End of democracy?
Trump starting WWIII?
President as a Russian asset?
January 6th "insurrection"?
Death to all unvaccinated?
Reintroducing slavery to black people?
Crashing the economy by deporting illegals?
Crashing the economy by implementing tariffs?
An incomplete list, yet so many to choose from....
’Why should I ignore the views of the vast majority of climate scientists?’
Views aren’t science.
Hallucinations
We could stop fighting wars and imposing sanctions there instead of creating blowback by receiving those seeking refuge who are still pissed off about what we did to their homes.
Some nuts worried that curbing liberal license, ending casual abortions and planned parenthood under homicide laws, performing human rites in progressive sects, affirmed catastrophic anthropogenic climate change and heralded the end of humanity.
Gates was always too bright to not eventually put two and two together regarding climate change. They keep warning us about all of these disastrous trigger points that will lead to catastrophic warming to the levels of Venus, while not recognizing that for about three thousand years, a couple hundred thousand years ago, it was about six degrees warmer than now, and sea level was so high that the Seychelles were submerged, and likely the Arctic Ocean was ice free for the summer, and the planet did not die.
It is so hard to get to the ground truth through the propaganda, and the worst of it started with the climate change lies.
Gates is an evil oligarch edwin blavk figured this out in the 90s now did he turn evil or was he always thud
Gates is one of the smartest dumbshits around today.
The end of subsidies and reliable megawatt power demands of Automated Intelligence are powerful incentives to abort dysfunctional behaviors and choices.
He ripped off jobs who ripped off xerox
"Has anybody else heard about Elon Musk's Grokipedia"
Genius, if it works. I am still waiting for his law digester, the one that takes the laws as they are proposed to be voted on, and breaks out what they really are in the form of bullet points.
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 was like a nuclear bomb to communities, where small towns used to have radio stations like the one in Northern Exposure, based in the community, or WKRP, were the DJs made local decisions about what artists were worth listening to, and instead, we got big investors with access to capital buying up hundred of stations and putting out the same processed cheese to ever town.
Same with deregulating bus service. You used to be able to catch a Greyhound or a Trailways bus from any tiny town in the US, remember the beginning of Hair, where the bus stops outside the kid's farm and picks him up to take him to boot camp? You could go anywhere, even if you didn't have a lot of money. What a loss. But some bus companies simply snatched up the profitable routes from Greyhound, and without its baggage from serving all of America for so long, took all the profits.
AI would never be able to foresee those impacts, but any idiot at a bar with a drink in his hand could have predicted it.
https://share.google/zMJOFut57m9tIkkZU
’I can't unravel the complexities, but I don't like the way people have been manipulated into feeling immense anxiety about an imagined apocalypse’
Propaganda is very effective.
I don’t believe Michael Mann was doing much more than fudging the numbers a little bit to keep his funding, but when the statists found an apocalyptic scenario that could be used to control every facet of human life, it was too good to be true.
Far greater harm was those of us who checked the assumptions, data, and analyses, and easily identified the flaws at every level. We were called climate deniers, haters of the environment, and anti-scientific by people who can’t conduct a single-variate regression.
There will be no forgiveness.
Gates “spent billions of his own money,” but did he not make even more billions?
Gates Chapter 1: Shady business man selling trashy software for $$$$$$, MS-DOS/Office opportunist/monopolist, bully, playboy, and one who designed his custom house around a car collection and basketball. See The Simpson's cartoon "Buy 'em out Boys" allusion to mafia-like behavior.
Gates Chapter 2: Faced a federal anti-trust lawsuit and lost a lawsuit by contractor employees who did exactly the same work as "permanent" employees. Became a defensive hegemonist who sought to protect is power and money, and to improve his public image.
Gates Chapter 3: Funded the asinine propaganda channel MSNBC, Slate Magazine, and Global Warming hysteria. As a purebred opportunist and monopolist, he latched onto the ideologies that would best protect him against D.C. lawsuits and regulations (i.e., Democrat friendly).
Given Gates history as a playboy and Epstein associate...take his word for what it's worth...
There will be no forgiveness.
Nor should there be. Good science was punished — junk science must be punished even worse.
"https://share.google/zMJOFut57m9tIkkZU"
Oh yeah, Y2K. Back in the day people would ask me what I thought about it. I would tell them that if they got a bill for $9,000,000 not to pay it. That the bill was probably mistaken.
It was about a character very much like gates
We can his part in spreading lockdown hysteria
"Has anybody else heard about Elon Musk's Grokipedia, launched yesterday?"
Nothing unbiased yet, though the fearful yelps from the Wikipedia cabal are illustrative as well as amusing. When Grokipedia goes live I will compare its entry on Stefan Molyneux to Wikipedia's. Then I'll know the important truth.
"The world is warming faster than at any point in recorded history. Last year was the hottest on record. Scientists warn that unless countries make a rapid shift away from burning fossil fuels, the planet is likely to experience extreme weather and other changes faster than humans can adapt. Low-lying island nations are already seeing their land disappearing under rising seas caused by melting glaciers and polar ice sheets. An estimated 62,775 people died from heat in Europe last year."
That's from the article.
We are doomed.
In their minds they created an Idiocracy-type situation. They freaked out their own people so much that they stopped having kids. Now, it's highly contentious that your kids will mimic your own political beliefs, I mean, Hollywood and NYC are filled with people who have repudiated their own childhood belief systems, but I can see a bit of a panic setting in. "We oversold this!"
Bill Gates is just distracting everybody away from his participation in the Epstein Island fantasy
Gemini AI Says: Based on reports from late October 2025, former Microsoft CEO Bill Gates has not been named as a direct contributor to the renovation of the White House's East Wing. However, the current project is being funded by Microsoft and other major tech companies.
Just another skydragon worshiper
Fifteen or so years ago I was eating barbecue with the chief scientist of NASA’s Earth Science Division* after our plenary meeting to evaluate several remote sensing satellite missions focusing on carbon dioxide. After a few beers I asked, petitio principii, how could climate change be addressed. He said he didn’t know of any overall solutions, but he couldn’t understand why the environmentalists weren’t embracing nuclear power, i.e., he correctly assessed the activists as frauds.
*very nice Jewish dude from Brooklyn who married a girl from Birmingham and fell in love with barbecue and Southern cooking!
"An estimated 62,775 people died from heat in Europe last year."
From what I've read, far more people die due to cold weather compared to hot weather.
Try getting funding or clicks with the message that everything is gonna be fine.
Ask 100 scientists if they would like millions in grant money and I bet you get at least 97% consensus.
"The world is warming faster than at any point in recorded history."
The planet has been much warmer throughout nearly all of the last 600 million years and higher CO2 levels, with those warmer periods being far more biologically productive than today (more life). The temperature is warming slowly, but it's still a historically cool period in the longer term view.
As to deaths from heat versus cold, The Lancet has a number of papers on the subject. A quick scan shows extreme cold kills anywhere from six to nine times as many people as do extreme heat events.
Apparently Gates foundation was the dragon's pawn
Nowhere on the planet does it get hot enough to kill you in a matter of minutes, but a majority of the planet often gets cold enough to.
Why should I ignore the views of the vast majority of climate scientists?
Because they've been wrong on every, single prediction over the last 50/60 years?
Why should I ignore the warming of the earth?
Because the Earth's climate has been changing for 4.6 billion years and there's not a fucking thing you can do about it?
https://x.com/paulsperry_/status/1983226215704998012
Supposedly, Gates's billions have been fighting disease in Africa.
Bill's change in tune is because of the massive amounts of energy that AI will require. "Climate Change" was always more of an excuse for a power grab than a reality, but now the power grabbers realize that the need more (electrical) power to be able to grab (political) power.
P.S. How exactly is "recorded history" defined?
"Why should I ignore the warming of the earth?"
Is this something you have seen happen, or is this something you have been told is happening by people who would lose their jobs if they bucked the narrative. Like Dr Judith Curry did, for example. If it's something you have seen happen, I guess you must be the oldest man in the world if the fluctuations that have occurred in your lifetime define the long term trend.
I believe stuff people tell me when their stories hold together logically, and when they answer critics calmly with facts, and I doubt what they say when they force critics out of their jobs, in both the media, academia, and in the journals, for bucking the "consensus."
When "climate scientists" refuse to share their data with people that they think will "just find things wrong with it" as Mann said in an email about refusing to provide his data to Steve McIntyre, they aren't scientists anymore, they are polemicists.
One of my favorite memes with the cat and the woman was when the woman yelled "I believe the science!" and the cat replied "You believe the television!"
Germany is about to tell us whether a social welfare state can exist in a de-industrialized country. Their net-zero mania has severely limited their supply of energy.
There should be an international inquisition against nuclear power opponents. The goal should be extermination. Death camps included. No statute of limitations. The people who blocked Californias Rancho Seco (1980s) and passed the bill to shut down Diablo Canyon (2ela
https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cd7rgp2zlwgo
Huh. I could've sworn the Gates Foundation was proving important and successful in malaria prevention. I wondering, now, what's causing the resurgence in cases after it was cut nearly in half (or if the cut was a birthrate thing - I don't remember whether the "cut in half" was rate or absolute cases).
To be clear, Newsom gave Diablo Canyon a stay of execution, to either 2030 or 2035, for the obvious reasons.
Just checked in and haven’t read any of the above comments, and likely won’t, but Gate’s take is pretty much spot on. With MAGA and Trump’s crusade of burning it all down right now, yes, climate change initiatives need to be momentarily put on the back burner.
Once upon a time, i thought gates had been wrongly persecuted i was mistaken
That was largely a soviet desinforma campaign probably taken up by the PlA ruling circles the greens were one wing of that
Yes Gates' "philanthropy" has made many blunders. Others have done much worse. Look at the Ford Foundation, or the trillions gifted without restrictions to universities. Look at 90% of the NGOs. Apparently, doing good is not as easy as it looks.
Yes the Ford foundation is antithetical to what henry ford believed in economics curiously not in some cultural mattera
They support hamas and fatah
The left in a span of a generation took over most. Of the foundations even pew funded by a conservative oil tycoon
Thats why they sought to destroy scaife then koch brothers and remaissance
When they went after bannon because the former funded veritas among other efforts
Renaissance, and the mercers
Just checked in and haven’t read any of the above comments, and likely won’t, but Gate’s take is pretty much spot on. With MAGA and Trump’s crusade of burning it all down right now, yes, climate change initiatives need to be momentarily put on the back burner.
"Those are my principles, gentlemen. If you don't like them...I got others."
The reese committee showed the problem in the 50s
boatbuilder, hah! Sure, it was of critical world shattering importance, they told us that many times, but you know how it is. Getting funding to keep the light on to draw in millions of illegals is more important!
Think about it, back in their home country, they are practically climate saints, driving small cars, if any at all, sleeping with their windows open to let in the fresh air at night, and here they live in air conditioned houses and drive F-250s, and become climate sinners as only Americans can be, because, well climate change is important, but, you know how it is, other stuff comes up.
I did one of those river cruises on the Rhine, and it was pretty cool, the herds of wild horses on the river banks in the Netherlands was pretty cool, but the one thing, that I will never forget, was passing a shut down nuclear plant at night, the huge cooling tower was lit only by moonlight and the only artificial lighting at all was a small red flashing beacon on the top of it, it was a very strangely shaped plant, and passing it in silence was eerie.
Might have been this one.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-aerial-view-muelheim-kaerlich-nuclear-power-plant-on-the-rhine-river-48730663.html
Ronald J. Ward said...
Just checked in and haven’t read any of the above comments, and likely won’t, but Gate’s take is pretty much spot on. With MAGA and Trump’s crusade of burning it all down right now, yes, climate change initiatives need to be momentarily put on the back burner.
Wow. You really are just a stupid person.
bagoh20 said...
Try getting funding or clicks with the message that everything is gonna be fine.
Ask 100 scientists if they would like millions in grant money and I bet you get at least 97% consensus.
It is more like try to get research funding from the government if you don't support the position that the world ends unless the government gets more money and power.
In order for the grift to work it must sound plausible. Further you have to act as if you believe it. If you can accomplish those two things it becomes easy to fleece your mark.
Bill Gates must have finally watched the movie “Juiced: How Electricity Explains the World.” https://juicethemovie.com/ and the movie “Planet of the Humans” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
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