Updates at the NYT just now.
ADDED:
🚨BREAKING: President Trump says Charlie Kirk’s killer was captured with help from the assassin’s father and a minister.
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 12, 2025
“Somebody that was very close to him turned him in. And that happens when you had some of those good shots.”
“It was a minister and the minister went to a… pic.twitter.com/3BXvM7887d
ALSO: People on X are focusing on this guy, who is awful whether he's the murderer or not:
MORE: I don't think the man in that video looks like the mugshot of the arrested man, Tyler Robinson.
This is the Prime suspect for Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
— Lozzy B 🇦🇺𝕏 (@TruthFairy131) September 12, 2025
Skye Valadez debated Charlie not long ago, had a song called "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31" on his Soundcloud, uses She/her pronouns on Facebook. Lives in the area. pic.twitter.com/4EicRhfjoe
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«सबसे पुराना ‹पुराने 292 का 201 – 292I hope Nurse Ratchet didn't get whiplash from that last but about the MN murders, which nobody on the right celebrated the way this Canadian politician justified the murder of Kirk.
https://x.com/elie_mcn/status/1966279393128624492
What's funny is that she accurately says that she has no "empathy" for Kirk, which is a word that means having some ability to understand them, when she meant "sympathy" This is because these people are so poorly educated.
Inga is a proud leftist. she will NEVER admit that her precious party is wrong or to blame.
Eva,
Burped it every hour, the whole 9 yards.
Um…what you did instead is create a conspiracy theory that Governor Walz had put out a hit on them.
Of course you lie. The KILLER said that, and we quoted him because the Star Tribune and other newspapers refused to tell us he said it. Can you ever make a point without inventing some boogeyman on the right?
WE DID NOT CHEER DEATH LIKE YOUR SIDE DOES.
We need to go back to the time when the patriarch protected the honor of the family name
Yet, if the perpetrator of such an horrendous crime is Muslim, well then it proves their barbarity. I am very confused.
BTW, the Robinson family members are registered Republicans.
Sweet more leftist blameshifting because you cannot honestly discuss your side's murderous impulses. The KILLER is Democrat Socialist of America. I'm touched by your sudden interest in the family members of radical individuals because many elected democrats have surprisingly close and numerous ties to terrorists and violent actors.
Like Obama, who's best friend was an Weather Underground fire-bomber. But do go on how this precious kid turned on his parents and embraced murder like your side does.
I openly stated I was horrified by the MN murders. Still am.
Note we never hear any of that from the gross leftists.
Have we read one leftist-Democratic comment saying how sorry they are that Charlie Kirk was murdered?
NOPE.
If you cannot say that 99% of Trump supporters are GOOD people you are a piece of shit and it is time for you to go.
Good is a subjective term. But as long as I can consider you (and several other commenters here) one of the 1%, then I concede the point
The MN murders were by a crazy person who found no support from the right, this murder has been cheered on by the Democrats and their allies in torrents.
It’s very important right now for the Left to paint the shooter as a white MAGA conservative. Whether true or not their acolytes will eat it up, even those here at Althouse.
I have no idea the political affiliation of the killer's parents. Is this just more BS? Is this verified ? the left lie so much - I don't take their word for it.
Doesn't matter much.
children are not their parents.
It does look like the Killer is a radical leftist.
It's amazing how quickly they seized the opportunity to further demonize white men, isn't it.
JAQ 11:14 - EXACTLY right.
The blood thirsty left are not hiding who they are. They are pouring out of the woodwork. They feel emboldened.
Thank you Eva. Helping Peachy put Inga in her place needs to be done. We are done with leftists spewing lies!
"Charlie Kirk Assassin Suspect Appears to Have Killed for Antifa"
Well.
The level of narcissism and stupidity Kaka has demonstrated the last few days makes me wonder if he might end up on a roof sometime in the future.
The only people left supporting the Democrat party are fundamentally violent people who believe in taking your stuff and killing you if you object.
I know that you think that I am a "fundamentally violent" person. Unfortunately, you can not find a comment on this or any other forum where I have ever advocated violence, in fact it is quite the opposite.
You however, seem to be itching for an excuse to kill left wing scum. You have declared on this very forum that 30% of the country's population needs to be purged. You intend to accomplish this mass public executions, imprisonment of political opponents, and exile .
Freder Frederson said...
We need to go back to the time when the patriarch protected the honor of the family name
Yet, if the perpetrator of such an horrendous crime is Muslim, well then it proves their barbarity. I am very confused.
You are very confused because you are stupid.
If I find my son at home and he says he killed Charlie Kirk killing him is definitely appropriate.
If my daughter comes home and tells me another man raped her or she likes a boy I don't approve of it is not appropriate to kill her or throw acid on her face.
I understand how this might be a difficult distinction for someone as stupid as you are.
Who woke up Fredo?
“The KILLER said that, and we quoted him because the Star Tribune and other newspapers refused to tell us he said it.”
And you BELIEVED HIM. You passed it around in a conspiratorial fashion on conservative social media and here, as IF it were true. You believed a murderer. As Achilles says, you are just a terrible person, a baaaad person.
Freder Frederson said...
The only people left supporting the Democrat party are fundamentally violent people who believe in taking your stuff and killing you if you object.
I know that you think that I am a "fundamentally violent" person. Unfortunately, you can not find a comment on this or any other forum where I have ever advocated violence, in fact it is quite the opposite.
You however, seem to be itching for an excuse to kill left wing scum. You have declared on this very forum that 30% of the country's population needs to be purged. You intend to accomplish this mass public executions, imprisonment of political opponents, and exile .
Your support for the murder of Charlie Kirk is implicit and explicit.
Your implicit support comes from the fact that millions of people on your side are openly celebrating his death and that you cannot condemn them. You cannot condemn the University system that is systemically violent and always attacks conservative speakers.
The explicit support is that you cannot say Kirk is a good person. You cannot say that Trump supporters have good intentions. You cannot say Christians are good people and you cannot say that a Christian nation can be fundamentally good. You cannot say Trump supporters are not racist. You constantly call us fascists.
YES Inga, we believe the murderer because leftists do nothing but lie. WHY did he work for Tampon Tim?? YOU would be better spewing on Blusky instead of here. Then you and the other liars can commiserate together that once again...you are wrong.
“Helping Peachy put Inga in her place needs to be done.”
Hahaha, ok this is funny. First Peachy needs to decide what sort of fruit she really is, she was April Apple a few years back. Maybe next she can be Patty Potato next, try a vegetable.
Inga - go away.
The highly trained killer had a family and yet lived with a roommate, in a strange separate living situation. That is really strange. The room-mate is the only thread that offered "He voted for Trump!"
That's all you have. That is hearsay.
The Killer's own confessions contain blame for Tim Walz.
Is he lying? You do not know that.
Considering Tim Walz has a connection to the killer. Sure is odd how fast the media dropped it. Trump has ZERO connection to the killer. Yet - YOU LIE. Like you always do.
Inga - We all note you cannot defend against anything I've stated about you.
Still waiting for you to clear up last night's lie about Trump's Jan 6th speech. YOU openly claimed he "inspired Violence"
Got proof?
Inga you’re hallucinating. You brought him up, and spread an untruth about people on the right. I corrected you. Es todo.
This is the problem with lefties. You’re nit satisfied to think we disagree. You have to fabricate an image of me that includes my believing murderers and based solely on your imagination. You need to rethink.
nga said...
“The KILLER said that, and we quoted him because the Star Tribune and other newspapers refused to tell us he said it.”
And you BELIEVED HIM. You passed it around in a conspiratorial fashion on conservative social media and here, as IF it were true. You believed a murderer. As Achilles says, you are just a terrible person, a baaaad person.
You are an evil dishonest person. Your only goal here is to justify political murder.
Boelter had a long political relationship with Walz. He was a nut who was upset some Democrats voted against Walz.
I don't really care about his past. I care about the forces that create political violence.
You attempt to twist Boelter's history into something other than what it is because you need justification for murdering us. It has always been the left that justifies murder and it is dishonest people like you that do it.
Your real problem is that now you have proved me right. Kirk was the wall that stood in the way. He was the nice guy that wanted to talk to you. We are done talking to you. All you do is shoot us.
Wendy and I and others have been here long enough and we have long memories of Inga's obsession with swallowing whole all the lies that come out of MSNBC and her precious corrupt Democratic Party.
For the love of god Inga, Gretchen Windmore “kidnapping” and Paul Pelosi sex games gone wrong - you really are groping with this two. Hilarious if it wasn’t so STUPID
well said Achilles!!
That guy in the twitter clip is your typical leftist- smug and self-centered. It is absolutely hilarious watching him trying to use the fact that Kirk didn't go to college as some sort of weapon. I am sure that guy thought he was "owning" Kirk there while completely and utterly oblivious to how the entire encounter made him look like a cretin.
Merny11- She still believes the fake Russian Collusion BS. Some people just won't quit.
“Inga you’re hallucinating. You brought him up, and spread an untruth about people on the right.”
Actually it was not I who brought up the killings of the MN state legislators and the wounding of the other couple. I brought up the killer because some you idiots believed him when he said Walz put out a hit on the Legislators.
Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Of course WE didn't cheer on the MN murders they way the socialist left has celebrated Charlie's death. But that's just quibbling about details.
9/12/25, 10:22 AM
Gretchen Whitmer was not actually kidnapped.
And the people involved were tricked by under-cover FBI agents. This was proven in a court of law.
Paul Pelosi was harmed by someone he knows, and yes it was a sex thing, and the guy was a nutter. Not Trump's fault. Paul Pelsoi was not murdered for his speech. Paul Pelosi is very much alive.
That we really didn't care much about the Paul Pelosi saga - well - that is why the left are pissed. WE are to worship their Elite leaders like they do.
“Paul Pelosi was harmed by someone he knows, and yes it was a sex thing, and the guy was a nutter.”
You really are a huge dummy. You are still trying to say that Paul Pelosi knew his assailant and it was a sex thing? What is wrong with you besides being dumb?
I'm hoping that this is locked down, but after a couple of false starts, I'm now thinking of that lunatic who falsely confessed to killing Jon-Benet Ramsey. It's there any chance Tyler Robinson is similarly just a messed-up attention seeker? Do they have solid evidence on this guy besides the confession?
BTW, the Robinson family members are registered Republicans. Tyler's mental state has not yet been mentioned.
…oh good lord the gadfly bot is broken. It’s trying to imply the shooter was a republican. Meanwhile, this reminder- the idiom ‘a black sheep of the family’ means there is literally a black sheep as a family member…
"The FBI tactic of publishing the images worked and it didn't take long. They basically crowd sourced the man hunt. How is that incompetent?"
It isn't incompetent, however, I think they already knew who he was before the photo was released- the photo was released in order to find him in the most expeditious way possible without getting inundated with false sighting requiring hours of manpower to run down and disprove. By releasing the photo, they were enabling his relatives and friends to help track him down.
Inga said...
“Helping Peachy put Inga in her place needs to be done.”
Hahaha, ok this is funny. First Peachy needs to decide what sort of fruit she really is, she was April Apple a few years back. Maybe next she can be Patty Potato next, try a vegetable.
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Does the name Alley OOP ring a bell?
Pot - kettle
Tom T., I think it likely that the gun was traced to the Robinson family. I suspect that it is the reason the father suspected his son- the rifle was missing.
Andy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
You’re lying about the gunman just to cash in on sick engagement. But I have to respond so that people can at least read the truth if they wanted to.
Robinson allegedly wrote an Antifa chant (“Bella Ciao”) on one of the rifle cartridges and called Charlie Kirk a “fascist” on another casing. His family said he believed Kirk was “spreading hate.” In other words, the alleged gunman expressed many of the same views from those like you happy about Kirk’s murder. https://ngocomment.com/p/charlie-kirk-assassin-suspect-appears
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It is so much fun to watch Dingabat, Kakabich, and Dungfly wriggle and wriggle and wriggle.
“Does the name Alley OOP ring a bell?”
Yes, but at least I was creative. Fruits and veggies, meh, boring.
It's apparent from the meltdown of the left that we really do need some Mental Health counseling and FAST!! Just read the lefties here!! Please get help before you hurt someone.
Unfortunately, leaders like Marshall Applewhite are no longer available to lead Antifa and the Democratic Socialists of America to their ultimate glory.
The democratic party sure do like to fling the word "Fascist" around.
1) they don't even know what it means
2) they act like authoritarian fascists at every turn.
Most people have no real clue of what the actual Fascists believed, but they told us, in very plain language.
The Manifesto of the Italian Fasces of Combat, often called the Fascist Manifesto, was written in 1919 by national syndicalist Alceste de Ambris and the futurist poet Filippo Tommaso Marinetti, with much input from Benito Mussolini, the future Duce.
It is a thoroughly socialist and radical document, and reading through it you will be struck by how much overlap there is with the ravings of Bernie Sanders and his ilk.
Italians!
Here is the program of a sane Italian movement. Revolutionary because anti-dogmatic and anti-demagogical; strongly innovative because anti-prejudicial. We place the valorization of revolutionary war above everything and everyone. The other problems: bureaucratic, administrative, legal, educational, colonial, etc., we will chart when we have created the ruling class.
For this WE WANT:
For the political problem
Universal suffrage by regional list voting, with proportional representation, voting and eligibility for women. Minimum age for voters lowered to 18; minimum age for deputies lowered to 25. The abolition of the Senate. The convening of a National Assembly for the duration of three years, whose first task is to establish the form of the state constitution. The formation of National Technical Councils of labor, industry, transportation, social hygiene, communications, etc., elected by the professional or trade communities, with legislative powers, and the right to elect a General Commissioner with ministerial powers.
For the social problem: WE WANT:
The prompt enactment of a state law enshrining the legal eight-hour workday for all jobs. Minimum wages. The participation of workers' representatives in the technical operation of industry. The entrusting to the proletarian organizations themselves (who are morally and technically worthy) of the management of public industries or services. The speedy and complete settlement of the railroad workers and all transportation industries. A necessary amendment of the Disability and Old Age Insurance Bill by lowering the age limit, currently proposed at 65, to 55. On the military issue:
WE WANT:
The establishment of a national militia with brief educational services and exclusively defensive duty. The nationalization of all arms and explosives factories. A national foreign policy intended to enhance, in the peaceful competitions of civilization, the Italian nation in the world. For the financial problem:
WE WANT:
A strong extraordinary tax on capital of a progressive nature, having the form of true PARTIAL EXPROPRIATION of all wealth. The seizure of all property of religious congregations and the abolition of all diocesan benefices, which constitute a huge liability for the nation and a privilege of the few.
The revision of all war supply contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of war profits.
— Filippo Tommaso Marinetti and Alceste de Ambris
Lingering questions remain as to how the "stranger" walked right into the Pelosi's home. The "He didn't know him" was questionable at the time.
Anyway - Paul Pelosi is very much alive - so why you leftists feel the need to bring him up--- at this horrible time, is not surprising to any of us.
Yancey, thanks.
@ Merny, Peachy and the other dummies who believe the Paul Pelosi attack was just a “sex thing”.
“No, Paul Pelosi did not know his assailant, David DePape. Law enforcement and prosecutors have consistently stated there was no prior relationship between the two men, contrary to baseless conspiracy theories that circulated after the attack.
Evidence that debunks the conspiracy theories:
Police interviews: During the ambulance ride to the hospital, Paul Pelosi told police he had never seen DePape before.
911 call audio: Transcripts and audio from Pelosi's 911 call confirm he did not know his attacker, despite DePape attempting to claim he was a "friend".
Court testimony: Paul Pelosi testified under oath that the attack was politically motivated and that he was awakened by a stranger entering his room and demanding to know "Where is Nancy?".
Evidence of forced entry: The initial reports from law enforcement and body camera footage later released confirmed that DePape broke into the house through a glass door using a hammer.
Assailant's motive: DePape admitted to authorities that he was looking for then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and intended to hold her hostage.”
If you think that you are being targeted by the all of the left, maybe you should look in the mirror and see that your worst enemies are yourselves.
Hassayamper - thanks for that.
Boiled down quickly - most of the Italian Fascist movement was like the angry twin of Socialism.
Government control of industry a large portion.
"The entrusting to the proletarian organizations themselves (who are morally and technically worthy) of the management of public industries or services. The speedy and complete settlement of the railroad workers and all transportation industries. "
Inag - I no longer care about Paul Pelosi. No one does - except strange Democrat party worshippers like you.
Charlie Kirk was just murdered - assassinated in front of his family - by a deranged leftist Antifa. And you do not care.
You are unable to care - because the killer is one of you.
Yep a barefoot, San Francisco living hippy from Canada did all of that for Trump. And you wonder why we laugh at you Inga?? We still don't know the identity of the person in Pauls car when he got a DUI after hitting another car drunk driving in Napa. Was that his boyfriend DePape?? We don't know, because they keep his affairs private.
The Pelosi family's massive wealth comes from massive insider trading. They live large off the backs of the working class.
Wendy - 12:25. Indeed. All things can be blamed on Trump- especially as a cover-up for the strange homosexual behaviors/ drunk driving of one Paul Pelosi.
“I no longer care about Paul Pelosi.”
You never cared that he was attacked and almost died because his wife was Nancy Pelosi. Nor did you care about the MN legislators that were murdered and wounded. You’re too dumb to even try to hide your gross hypocrisy.
As for Wendybar, you’re just as dumb as Peachy, maybe even dumber, nah, not possible.
Can it Inga. Does it really matter?? You won't believe us, and lie to us over and over again anyways. Just go away. It was so nice when you left for a bit.
Inag seriously - You do not care that Charlie Kirk was just murdered in front of his family. By an Antifa thug.
Paul Pelosi is very much alive. You really are mentally deranged. No - I don't give a fuck about the Pelosi family.
BUT - If they were gunned down like Charlie - I would be outraged.
unlike YOU.
Inga is a Democratic Worshipper - And at this time of grief - she demands we bow down to the Pelosi family.
And to think you are 100 times dumber, by repeating MSNBC talking points that happened years ago to justify one of yours being an assassin.
Meanwhile, on X, Stephen King offers a
retraction:
"I was wrong, and I apologize. I have deleted the post."
And you BELIEVED HIM.
Listen liar, you don't know me and I never ever said anything like that. "Belief" is not what I look for in news, facts are. The fact is that nut wrote it not us and it makes your side look bad so you spin and fret. Frist you said WE made the claim. Now you say we believe the claim. All based on your own hallucination and lying tendencies.
Why don't you tell us what YOU believe instead of the old leftist mindreading trick that fails you at every opportunity.
Also, from John Fetterman, posted early on, before Charlie Kirk's passing was announced:
"I condemn this in the strongest terms.
There is ZERO place in our great country for these horrendous acts of political violence.
We must find a better way forward.
May Charlie Kirk have a full and quick recovery."
And this:
"Our family grieves for Charlie Kirk’s family.
We must collectively find a way forward during these polarized times."
Inga said...
“I no longer care about Paul Pelosi.”
You never cared that he was attacked and almost died because his wife was Nancy Pelosi. Nor did you care about the MN legislators that were murdered and wounded. You’re too dumb to even try to hide your gross hypocrisy.
Inga wants everyone to know that Paul Pelosi was attacked and MN legislators were attacked and this makes it OK to shoot people like Charlie Kirk.
Inga follows this up with lies about who attacked Paul Pelosi and the MN legislators. When caught in multiple lies Inga doubles down on the claim that all Republicans are evil and it was OK to kill Charlie Kirk.
Inga is a fundamentally violent and dishonest person.
Steven King is as evil as his books and his party.
But - good that he was embarrassed enough to come clean for a moment.
“Inga you’re hallucinating. You brought him up, and spread an untruth about people on the right.”
Actually it was not I who brought up the killings of the MN state legislators and the wounding of the other couple. I brought up the killer because some you idiots believed him when he said Walz put out a hit on the Legislators.
"Mike (MJB Wolf) said...
Of course WE didn't cheer on the MN murders they way the socialist left has celebrated Charlie's death. But that's just quibbling about details."
MY words stand on their own. I didn't mention belief of any kind. You are simply a liar like all leftists. Every word I wrote is indisputably true. Like this: OUR SIDE DOESN'T CHEER ON DEATH AND ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS!
Peachy said...
"Steven King is as evil as his books and his party.
But - good that he was embarrassed enough to come clean for a moment."
It only happened because someone posted facts and called him out. It never would have happened if Elon Musk hadn't bought X.
I read yesterday that Dad agreed with son that Kirk was bad. Cannot find source today.
Grok says:
"An unnamed family member participated in a conversation with Tyler Robinson at a family dinner shortly before the September 10, 2025, shooting. According to Utah Governor Spencer Cox, during this discussion about Kirk's upcoming appearance at Utah Valley University, both expressed their dislike for Kirk and his viewpoints, with the family member specifically stating that Kirk was "full of hate and spreading hate."
3 sources
This indicates agreement with Tyler's negative assessment of Kirk as a bad person. The family member's identity has not been publicly disclosed in reports"
I don't need the Sturmabteilung to tell me how much the DNC blows.
The thought just struck me that the shot of the studio there is more diverse than most Progressive get-togethers. . . . .
FormerLawClerk said...
Wince misses the point.
In most, if not all jurisdictions, you can make the New York Times eat shit for months on end while you drag them through the mud with your pointless lawsuit and ultimately get rich through a huge 7-figure payout to drop your suit due to the bad publicity it will generate for the New York Times.
You would never get a lawyer in the first place on a defamation claim. Because the bar to suit is based in law, not a factual dispute, it would result in a clear-cut, immediate grant of summary judgment dismissing the defamation case against the defendant NYT as a matter of law. Rule 56.
Any further attempt to make the defendant "eat shit for months on end while you drag them through the mud with your pointless lawsuit and ultimately get rich through a huge 7-figure payout to drop your suit due to the bad publicity it will generate for the New York Times" would likely result in sanctions again the plaintiff. Rule 11.
Why the evil Democratic base feel they must do the "But but but!" is because they know deep down - they built the monster.
"Where did Charlie Kirk's murderer learn to call conservatives "fascists"?
CNN: Anderson Cooper:
"Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?"
Kamala Harris: "Yes, I do. YES, I DO!"
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Reality: Fascism is a kissing cousin to Bernie Sander’s style Socialism. But to the left - it's just another empty word they fill up with their blind hate. The hate their base is addicted to.
One interesting thing, for those paying attention, the guy they arrested did NOT match the photo of the person of interest.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15092613/Tyler-Robinson-Discord-dark-online-footprint-Charlie-Kirk.html
"Robinson arrived on the UVU campus driving a gray Dodge Challenger, before opening fire on the 31-year-old conservative influencer, police said.
He was dressed in a plain maroon T-shirt, light-colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo and light-colored shoes."
It's why its best to let the facts come out before we Richard Jewell the kid.
Germans gathered at the US Embassy in Berlin to hold a candlelight vigil for Charlie Kirk.
The event was described by locals as “spontaneous” and not pre-planned.
A political earthquake has occurred across the West.
https://x.com/VinceDaoTV/status/1966298918796583085
Spain is mourning Charlie as well.
https://x.com/birdie_0002/status/1966322814501503000
If my daughter comes home and tells me another man raped her or she likes a boy I don't approve of it is not appropriate to kill her or throw acid on her face.
But if your daughter came home and told you "Dad I just killed a conservative media figure". You wouldn't turn her in, you would just kill her and then call the police. What other crimes justify filicide in your opinion?
And I have not made any comments, implicit, or explicit, about Charlie Kirk. Unlike you, who apparently believes anyone who is not a "Good Person" deserves to be killed, I think even "bad" should not be killed (either under color of law or vigilantism), unless it is absolutely necessary. I am opposed to the death penalty (and even life in prison without the possibility of parole) under all circumstances.
How you can claim I have explicitly and implicitly celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk is merely a product of your sick mind.
Peachy said...
“Wendy - 12:25. Indeed. All things can be blamed on Trump- especially as a cover-up for the strange homosexual behaviors/ drunk driving of one Paul Pelosi.”
Some two decades ago when Dubya was in charge, there was a website called “Blame Bush” with the tagline “Because Bush is to blame for everything”. The website was run by someone who was a proto Andrew (Titania McGrath) Doyle who adopted the persona of a lefty inflected with severe TDS. One post that is relevant here is he goes on a rant about how Bush was responsible for the broken fan belt in his high mileage Jeep Cherokee that stranded him on his way to work.
Inga is a fundamentally violent and dishonest person.
No. She is just a dumb fatass who slurps up the anti-conservative vitriol on the legacy networks like it was her last bowl of Mac and cheese.
I prefer to ignore her. It keeps my blood pressure down.
Althouse will surely quickly move on when it is discovered that the loser's motives (if he had any) do not connect him to the left.
Well, now that we've found out he's a Trump-hating leftist - who also hated Charlie Kirk - will you quickly move on?
Or will you keep running your fucking mouth?
"We are still waiting for you to provide the Jan 6th Trump quote that you claimed inspired violence."
I'm not, because she won't. And if she manages to pretend to try, it'll be something Trump said that didn't inspire violence that she will claim really did because "dog whistles" or something, ignoring the fact that if she heard it...
"watching him trying to use the fact that Kirk didn't go to college as some sort of weapon. I am sure that guy thought he was "owning" Kirk there"
I have watched a number of video clips of Kirk's interactions with similar college students. They don't even try to hide their condescension when they snarl "You never finished college, did you?"
Now, who do Democrats recruit to go to work in DC for the agencies and NGOs they run? People just like those college students. If their "I'm better than you" attitude is right up there, loud and proud, while talking to someone like Kirk, just imagine what they think of all the farmers, mechanics and truck drivers out there in flyover country who didn't go to college.
"It's a big club, and you ain't in it." - G. Carlin
No. She is just a dumb fatass
I assume you have never met Inga. How do you know she is a fatass? You can call me dumb if you want but calling me a fatass is taking it too far and is at the level of a middle-school bully.
As for the claim that Trump did not incite violence on Jan 6. I guess that is somewhat defensible even though it is contrary to everything we know about his behavior on that day, he did not explicitly say "go storm the Capitol and kill anyone who gets in your way", which is apparently the only quote that would vindicate Inga in your (and Peachy's) eyes.
As an example of Trump advocating violence perpetrated by the state, here is his statement just three days ago: "We have to be vicious, just like they are. It's the only thing they understand," Trump added Tuesday. "We have proven that it can be done because we did it right here in D.C."
I won't even begin to expalin to you why not only is this statement classic authoritarianism, but is also factually inaccurate (or bullshit if you like). Crime did not, and will not, disappear from D.C. because Trump had a bunch of National Guard troops picking up garbage and wandering around the mall, Dupont Circle and the Metro looking tough. I daresay that the money he spent on his show of force would have funded mental health, violence prevention, and drug addiction services, and probably a good chunk of affordable housing, all have which have proven to reduce crime, for several years.
AG
@AGHamilton29
Here is a list of just a small portion of the violence committed by radicals who oppose the essential values of Western civilization over the last few years, and then often justified or celebrated by the extremists within their movement:
June 2022: Kavanaugh attempted assassination
July 2022: Lee Zeldin attempted stabbing
March 2023: Covenant school shooting
July 2024: Donald Trump attempted assassination
September 2024: Second Trump attempted assassination
December 2024: Brian Thompson's assassination
January 2025: Cybertruck bomb in Vegas
January 2025: New Orleans car ramming attack
April 2025: Arson attack on the home of PA Governor Josh Shapiro
May 2025: Assassination of two Israeli staffers outside the Jewish museum in D.C.
June 2025: Firebombing of Jewish hostage demonstrators in Colorado
June 2025: Targeted murder of MN State lawmakers and their spouses
August 2025: Minneapolis Church shooting
September 2025: Charlie Kirk's assassination
Either we stand up to the people encouraging this, or they will succeed in tearing our society apart.
Is it true that "mental health, violence prevention, and drug addiction services . . . have proven to reduce crime"? They don't seem to done anything for the murderer of Iryna Z., whereas it is obvious that she would be alive today if he had been in jail that day, or a secure (=unescapable) mental institution.
They don't seem to done anything for the murderer of Iryna Z., whereas it is obvious that she would be alive today if he had been in jail that day, or a secure (=unescapable) mental institution.
So how does claiming that the very things I want funded (and are currently profoundly underfunded) would have prevented the attack demonstrate your argument.
As far as I can tell, you are undermining the very point you are trying to make (if we had funded mental health interventions adequately, this would have never happened)?
The problem with the left in the US, like much of the left elsewhere, is that they push out anyone not ideologically pure and demand absolute fealty to The Message. As a result they cause absolute rapturous delight amongst a small select few but are unliked by the majority.
Trump is not going to be there in 2028, but JD Vance is. Vance will undoubtedly align with the poll-tested policy positions of a conservative-leaning majority. He's smart and has a proven record at realizing his opportunities.
The Virginia gubernatorial race is also instructive. The Democratic nominee for Governor is running an issue-free campaign that is entirely built around negative attacks against her opponent. Given the candidate's own policy history, I think it is likely that she could have fit in with the Republican Party pre-Trump. She favored the Bush-era economic and foreign policy. Her main issue with the Bush years seems to center around social policy. She would have preferred a more socially moderate line. Odds are she is going to win in this political climate, and it is interesting too how major Republican donors have more or less given her a pass in this election. As soon as she wins, I'm sure national media and major donors will be pushing her as the Democratic presidential nominee in either 2028 or 2032 (either that or they will position her to take over one of the two Senate seats). Business as usual.
The Democrats ran on a "restoration of norms" in 2020 and in 2024. The problem is that there are a substantial number of Americans who think the country does not work, so a "restore the status quo" message is going to be a political loser. If you go back 40 years, "reject the status quo", not "restore the norms" is the pitch that tends to resonate with voters. The sliver of the population who thinks that everything was going more or less great prior to 2016, are an incredibly privileged, out-of-touch, minority -- mostly of rich people and politicians whose primary source of financial support comes from rich people.
Trump is an abomination and he's going to make things much worse. He exploited discontent with the status quo for his own personal gain. But part of winning elections is understanding the electorate. The Democratic Party leadership and its major donors are too comfortable and too out of touch. That's a huge part of the problem. There is no credible political opposition that can speak to the frustration of insecurity of ordinary people (without scapegoating immigrants or the poor). A majority of Americans have no advocate right now. Not in Trump, not in the Democratic Party leadership.
Obama won in 2008 in no small part because he campaigned on a promise to "turn the page" on both the Bush and Clinton years. Instead of "turning the page" he gave us a Clinton restoration in 2016. In 2024, the Democratic Party elites, decided that it was time to tap into Bush-era nostalgia and roll-out unpopular Republicans like Alberto Gonzales and the Cheneys. It didn't work.
Things are going to be even more badly broken in 2028. Instead of restoring things to a past that lead to two Trump presidencies, there actually needs to be a constructive vision of the future that accounts for the failures of previous administrations (Democratic and Republican). A more critical understanding of Neo-liberalism and its political effects is part of the equation.
Lonejustice arguing for tit-for-tat seems a bad idea for him.
Kak: "He exploited discontent with the status quo for his own personal gain. But part of winning elections is understanding the electorate."
And since Trump won the election (the only "personal gain" he got out of it, btw: he lost money, freedom and blood in the process), he understood the electorate? Not seeing what the problem is.
More Kak: "A more critical understanding of Neo-liberalism and its political effects is part of the equation."
Yes, definitely. We are seeing this in all countries. Biggest question is whether the Dems will engage in it or keep taking money from globalists and race hustlers. JSM
"Biggest question is whether the Dems will engage in it or keep taking money from globalists and race hustlers."
Most Dems will do as they're told.
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