From "In an Era of Deep Polarization, Unity Is Not Trump’s Mission/President Trump does not subscribe to the traditional notion of being president for all Americans" by Peter Baker, in the NYT.
Who is taking an accurate measure of the consistency and ferocity of the divisiveness of the various Presidents?
My prompt to ChatGPT: "What are the most ferociously divisive things Presidents have said in all of American history? Give me a top 10, with just the quotes, not the explanations."
The list [NOTE: I did not verify the accuracy of these quotes. What follows is with ChatGPT gave me and the entire thing could be hallucination. Proceed with care!]
1. John Adams (1798): “If the people ever let the Democrats rule, the country will be deluged with the floodgates of immorality.” [NOTE: That is such poor English that it’s virtually inconceivable that it comes from John Adams.]
2. Andrew Jackson (1834): “The Bank is trying to kill me, but I will kill it! … They would destroy our institutions and corrupt our free government.”
3. Abraham Lincoln (1860 campaign): “You cannot be for slavery and for freedom. The two are incompatible; the one must perish.”
4. Grover Cleveland (1888): “Party success means party loyalty, and party loyalty means hostility to the enemy.”
5. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1936): “Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.”
6. Harry Truman (1948 campaign): “The Republicans … have begun to nail the American consumer to the wall with spikes of greed.”
7. Lyndon B. Johnson (1964): “The Republican Party feeds a fox every night to harass the nation’s chickens.”
8. Richard Nixon (1972): “The press is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The enemies must be understood.”
9. George W. Bush (2001): “You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.”
10. Donald Trump (2020): “The radical left is trying to destroy our country. If they win, America will be a socialist hellhole.”
2. Andrew Jackson (1834): “The Bank is trying to kill me, but I will kill it! … They would destroy our institutions and corrupt our free government.”
3. Abraham Lincoln (1860 campaign): “You cannot be for slavery and for freedom. The two are incompatible; the one must perish.”
4. Grover Cleveland (1888): “Party success means party loyalty, and party loyalty means hostility to the enemy.”
5. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1936): “Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me — and I welcome their hatred.”
6. Harry Truman (1948 campaign): “The Republicans … have begun to nail the American consumer to the wall with spikes of greed.”
7. Lyndon B. Johnson (1964): “The Republican Party feeds a fox every night to harass the nation’s chickens.”
8. Richard Nixon (1972): “The press is the enemy. The professors are the enemy. The establishment is the enemy. The enemies must be understood.”
9. George W. Bush (2001): “You are either with us, or you are with the terrorists.”
10. Donald Trump (2020): “The radical left is trying to destroy our country. If they win, America will be a socialist hellhole.”
ADDED: That was the ChatGPT list. I'd written Grok before, because I actually asked Grok first, but it was taking so long that I brought ChatGPT into the search. Eventually, Grok came through, but its first effort was all about racial division, such as Woodrow Wilson saying "Segregation is not a humiliation but a benefit, and ought to be so regarded by you gentlemen" and Lincoln's "I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races." I got more specific and Grok made a list that had things on it that weren't even ferocious, like "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so" (Ronald Reagan). So that's it for Grok on this little project.
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246 का 1 – 200 नए› नवीनतम»Funny. No mention of Biden calling half of the country a threat to democracy.
The first one and last one are the most accurate and cogent about the nation's history and current struggles.
Peter Baker is such a disingenuous reporter. He has only 1 objective. To slam Trump in any way and every way possible.
Leftists: “Yeah, we call all of you Nazis, bigots, racists, homophobes, etc. Yeah, some kid listening to us killed one of your leaders and another just missed killing Trump. Yeah, transexuals have gone into schools and churches to kill kids. You people need to calm down before some of US get hurt!”
Barack Obama: bitter clingers, albinophobia, sit down and shut up, redistributive change.
Bill Clinton: safe and rare, inferior superior exploitation,don't ask-don't tell.
Democracy is a majoritarian system.
When a group takes power and act in a disgusting, even murderous manner like the Soviets, Nazis or Maoists, I wonder if any of them actually see themselves as bad people? Of course saying so would likely get you killed, so we don't hear of it, but I wonder if any even consider it, or is self-righteousness that powerful?
I bet the two times democrats impeached Trump was never mentioned.
ChatGPT is an ethical automaton.
To Hillary we were deplorables. To Biden we were garbage. To everyone on the left we were nazis.
The Left is in mop up mode. It's not going to help. Their dirty, filthy water of EVIL is all over the floor for all to see.
Alinsky's Rule # 13
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and POLARIZE it.” Focus on a specific opponent, isolate them, and make them the symbol of the issue."
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Richard Nixon was right.
Democratic Socialism with DEIst philosophy, abortive ideation, political congruence, Dreams of Herr Mengele, publishes/brays handmade tales, redistributive change schemes. Deja vu. No, thank you.
Hey Democrats ... haven't you gotten the FUCKING MESSAGE YET?
We're DONE with you people. Get the fuck out of OUR country.
Trump is OUR President. He is not your President and he doesn't want to be because you're all a bunch of psychopathic assholes.
Fuck OFF.
I never pay any attention to Peter Baker.
Perhaps Mr. Baker ought to look inside himself and assess his own role in "practicing the politics of division." Physician, heal thyself.
And Biden as "uniter" is perhaps the most absurd thing I've read in a long time.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5029493/president-biden-maga-republicans
Does ChatGP have a really short memory?
Excellent more civility bullshit to ignore and another name to add to the list of cowards.
Put everyone who floats this garbage on a list of dishonest shitheads and intellectual cowards who will forever be ignored.
“…none of them practiced the politics of division as ferociously and consistently as Mr. Trump...."”
Another way of saying the same thing is ‘only Trump could and has gone toe to toe with the Democrats’. I will never forget that first term scene in the Oval Office when Trump had Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi wishing Trump would hush the press away so they could later spin the heck out of their discussion with Trump. Good times.
Joseph R. Biden Jr. called for ending 'this uncivil war.'
While prosecuting lawfare against his opponents.
None of them succeeded at achieving such lofty aspirations, and each of them to different degrees played the politics of division at times.
Trump is forthright about "dividing" the 80% from the 20% as he gains support across all demographics to the consternation of his opponents.
Reflexively, the Democrats embrace those same divisions as they watch their constituencies shrink.
Anne-I-Am said..."Funny. No mention of Biden calling half of the country a threat to democracy."
+1
Biden put 1000 J6ers in jail. He tried to put Trump in jail and called Trump a nazi-sympathizer. Hillary started the Russiagate hoax and lied about Trump being "Putin's puppet and a Russian asset".
Its been standard procedure for every Democrat POTUS and Democrat POTUS candidate to call Republicans "racist". As for Truman, he was running around in 48 and 52 calling Repubicans nazis and fascists. FDR was pulling the same trick in 40 and 44.
The fact is that Nixon tried to get along with the "liberal establishment" in 69. He had an unrequited love for them. Its only after the MSM and the Liberal Establishment made it clear that there would be no let up in the attacks, that he let Buchanan write the attacks for Agnew.
Funny. No mention of Biden calling half of the country a threat to democracy.
And not in an offhand or unscripted moment, but a highly produced, publicly-broadcast, special prime time Presidential address with the Marines featured prominently in the background.
Biden said he had F-15s.
Shorter Peter Baker: Will someone please shoot this guy? I mean, enough already. Bang! Bang!
THe MSM never lets up. They never stop attacking Trump and/or the rightwing. And whenever anyone hits back, no matter feebly, they pretend its the most vicious thing ever, ever. And cry about it...forever. They're STILL talking about Joe McCarthy.
It must work, because all they have to do is cry and zillions of conservatives rush over to pat their hand and go "There, there". I was just reading that cuck conservative Matt Schlapp and of course he wants to us to "stop the division and come together". He was more angry at J6 than he was at a leftist killing Charlie Kirk.
Excellent more civility bullshit to ignore and another name to add to the list of cowards.
The civility bullshit tag must be in overdrive.
BTW no one got more vicious attacks than Herbert Hoover. And no one tried to be nicer and reasonable to his opponents. But then Hoover wasn't a politician he was an Engineer Businessman. Ike was another "Take the High Road" guy.
As a litigator, I have dealt with conflict for almost five decades. Usually, conflicts have features that lend themselves to negotiation and, thus, compromise. Conflict that is non-negotiable typically involves a dispute that goes to the core of each side's identity. People can't compromise because doing so would negate their essential selves. I worry that we collectively have found ourselves in a non-negotiable dispute.
It's hard to be President of all the people when 40% or more of the population has been persuaded by their leaders that you deserve the Bolsonaro treatment. Thanks Ed Markey et al.
“Trump is forthright about "dividing" the 80% from the 20%”
The reality, as opposed to Baker’s civility batshittery. Isolating the hysterical. It’s generous of them to cooperate so enthusiastically.
Bush the elder tried 'kinder and gentler' and got rolled by George Mitchell (who always played for keeps -- sort of a more polished New England Harry Reid for those who don't remember.) Bush the younger repeatedly turned the other cheek when his opponents called him 'Bushitler.'
We have decades of experience telling us that being nice to the Democrat Party and the Left simply makes you a sucker at best and a victim at worst. It's a shame, but it's reality.
Lem at 12:06. Exactly
Bush the younger's quote was not directed at American's I don't think. It appears the AI did very poor research having missed key divisive statements of modern dem presidents and misrepresenting Rep presidents.
There seems to be a logic failure here. If you take a country that is divided 50/50 and convert it to one that is 80/20, haven't you massively REDUCED the division?
Am I missing something?
"Joseph R. Biden Jr. called for ending 'this uncivil war.'"
AND Joe Biden also claimed Trump said the KKK were "good people". Clear, compelling video evidence showing Biden was lying made no difference. And Biden repeated this horrible lie again and again through the whole of his presidency.
I'm sure Mr. Baker called out this lie each and every time it spewed forth from Biden's mouth.
As the internet taught me, Mr. Baker can eat a bag of dicks. Make sure it's the Costco family size.... on a two for one sale.
I can only note that European governments, the ones that hate Trump and insist on indulging the gentlemanly pursuit of killing men women and children in the most civilized manner, that is by putting working class young men in airplanes or alongside artillery pieces to do the job, are facing major problems keeping the proles, who should be seen and not heard, quiet.
A million people turned out in London to protest the policies that are destroying their lives, only to be labeled “far-right” by the media. How out of touch can you get, we are finding out.
“ none of them practiced the politics of division as ferociously and consistently as Mr. Trump.”
We liked it a lot better before the people we have been oppressing got an effective leader.
https://time.com/3765158/harry-reid-mitt-romney-no-taxes/
Dems say If you agree with us, we have met halfway in the great traditions of our country. If you don't agree with us you are haters and racists and fascists of the worst sort and, frankly, worse than Hitler.
Reductio ad Hitlerem. Dems never fail to do it. Truman did it to Dewey.
The GOP response is, have you ever heard of Godwin's Law? (Note: Mike Godwin attempted to backtrack in 2024, the little creep)
I just had an interesting discussion with Grok. Here are the prompts:
What are the most ferociously divisive things Presidents have said in all of American history?
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how come you did not include Joe bidens remarks that maga republicans were a threat to the foundations of our democracy?
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how can you ignore Biden's remark in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination and the 2 attempts to assassinate Trump?
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why do you refuse to connect Biden's speech to leftists trying to kill Trump and killing kirk because Biden called them threats to the republic?
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You say [I quoted grok back to itself]
"Evidence Against Direct Link: The suspect, Tyler Robinson (a 22-year-old from a Republican family, radicalized online with possible Groyper ties), criticized Kirk as "full of hate" but showed no clear leftist ideology or reference to Biden's speech."
but all evidence points to Tyler Robinson being a radical leftist who lived with his trans partner and referred to trump as a fascist,
how do you reach this conclusion?
The response:
"I'll break down how I reached my initial conclusion, why it needs updating, the current evidence (drawing from official statements, affidavits, and credible reporting), and how this fits into the broader context of our discussion on political violence, phenomenology, and ideology. My goal is truth-seeking: conclusions must evolve with evidence, not speculation."
"Funny. No mention of Biden calling half of the country a threat to democracy."
Nor siccing the DoJ on parents at school board meetings.
Prof. M. Drout said...
There seems to be a logic failure here. If you take a country that is divided 50/50 and convert it to one that is 80/20, haven't you massively REDUCED the division?
Am I missing something?
The only thing you are missing is that it is more like 60/40 and the 60% has far more guns.
In these situations it always ends up 80/20 and this is a historical norm. That is just how social contracts are formed.
One thing I will say for LLMs is that they are much more self aware than the average human.
"Bush the younger's quote was not directed at American's I don't think. It appears the AI did very poor research having missed key divisive statements of modern dem presidents and misrepresenting Rep presidents."
Forget it, Jake. It's AI.
What is there to say about Peter Baker and the NYT? Baker is a career liar. A maneuverer of facts. We'll leave some out here. Add some we know to be false there. Refuse to acknowledge others even happened.
He does this regularly and has done this for years.
It has not been that long since Joe Biden's infamous 'Red Speech' in which the networks carried the message, and the press dutifully repeated the message, that half the nation is a danger to the other half of the nation. Hmm. Makes one wonder what could come of talk like that?
Anyway...good times: Red Speech.
I would have thought ChatGPT reads Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_for_the_Soul_of_the_Nation_speech
Didn’t Baker or one of his NYT compatriots call George Bush literally worse than Hitler.
That is when they were not calling him a chimp and a coward and making up lies about his TNG service.
The FBI is investigating every nook and cranny after the shooting. Are those slurs?
"In the UK, up to a million people marched in the streets. Peacefully."
Police put it a 3 million. The arial video is incredible. The crowd goes on and on.
Left-stream media was claiming 100,000.
Formerlawclerk Try to enjoy your Sunday. Watch some football. Say hi to a stranger. Read the comics.
What a load of bullshit this article is.
File this article under: It's only bad when Trump does it.
Plus, I would have included Obama's famous, "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun" quote.
I remember when the left called W a chimp, but everybody went on with life. Then Rosanne Barr called Valerie Jarrett an ape, and she was killed off the show she created.
“ Watch some football. Say hi to a stranger. Read the comics.”
In other words, ignore that man behind the curtain! We promise to come for you last.
Will Trump and MAGA Republicans stop labeling their political adversaries as radical left Marxists who hate God, oppose Christianity, despise America, rig elections, aim to replace Americans with criminal migrants, and seek to kill babies? When will this rhetoric end?
"People have got to stop framing simple policy disagreements in terms of existential threats to our democracy. You can't call the other side fascists and enemies of the state and not understand that there are some deranged people in our society who will take that as cues to act." ~ Speaker Mike Johnson
And I suppose Obama speaking of the “fundamental transformation of America” wasn’t divisive at all…
Teachers are showing their students Charlie Kirk's assassination video and explaining to the students why Charlie Kirk had it coming and how they can avoid getting shot and killed.
Not "teachers", a teacher, and not even in the U.S. Let's blame Canada.
Of course, this is how bullshit starts. One teacher in a foreign country does a really stupid and bad thing and by next week you will be claiming it is schools all over the country (especially the ones that have kiddie pools filled with kitty litter instead of regular restrooms)
This is the Democrat's way of promoting unity: "Hey you unruly neonazis, shut up and get on board!"
I honestly do not remember any heartfelt appeals by Obama. Maybe some posing as such for his supporters who feel that we are illegitimate voices who are beneath contempt.
"Of course, this is how bullshit starts.."
I bookmarked your comment to play back to you, you do this all the time.
"For more, or if you haven't already had my message pounded into you enough, read the book I wrote with my wife, 'The Divider: Trump in the White House, 2017-2021' ..."
Obama spoke about no red states or blue states when he was running for president, not after he had secured the office. Whether or not he was an active divider as president, he wasn't an active uniter, and that 2004 statement isn't representative of his rhetoric as president.
I think we pretty clearly have Biden's "Triumph of the Will" speech in Philadelphia as an example of presidential speechifying that is more divisive than Trump's. Biden's vice presidential "Gonna put you all back in chains" was an example of where we were going with Biden. Harry Truman's rhetoric when he was concerned about losing the election was another example of divisive rhetoric, and it worked. And of course, there were the early days of the republic with the fights between Adams and Jefferson. Jefferson was a very divisive character during his rise to the presidency. If he's not on AI's list, it may be because he was too timid to speak much in public.
I'm reminded of the early 1970s. There was a lot of "divisive" talk back then, but Nixon could count on most Democrats not being on the side of the radicals. Trump can't. That accounts for the difference in their rhetoric. I'm also reminded of the aftermath of Charlottesville, when President Trump commented that there were "very fine people" on both sides of the Confederate statues conflict -- explicitly excluding neo-Nazis. How did that effort to bind the nation's wounds work out for DJT?
It's a good idea for every incoming president to give a rhetorical shot across the bow to the media, pointing out that they aren't what they've come to believe they are. That's going to ensure a lot of bad press, but the country thrives on an opposition between presidents and the press (at least until bureaucrats join up with the press to successfully take down a president).
Will Trump and MAGA Republicans stop labeling their political adversaries as radical left Marxists who hate God, oppose Christianity, despise America, rig elections, aim to replace Americans with criminal migrants, and seek to kill babies? When will this rhetoric end?
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When the libs are all living under a bridge in a cardboard box and fighting over the last rat.
So we are not allowed to notice when elections are obviously rigged? Why is that Federal Judge in Georgia keeping that 140K tranche of ballots from being inspected?
Why did Colorado pass a law making validating the results of an election a crime?
Why wasn't Arizona open and forthcoming about their procedures when plainly, somebody changed the printer settings just prior to Election Day in heavily Republican districts to make their ballots look right, but unreadable by the machines, for example.
Straightforward answers to these questions and some sunshine in the vote count would go along way, but I'm sorry, you did explain it, you said "shut up."
The funny thing about Arizona was that the elections were run by the Democratic candidate for governor, and there was a "heat map" showing heavily Republican districts, right where the printer problems showed up.
The neat thing about messing with printer settings is that you don't need to bypass secured networks, you can do it via bluetooth, or with a script that will get past security since it is done by a "systems administrator."
Here are some documented examples, Freder:
A U.S. Marine was fired for a social media post saying “Another racist man popped,” along with emojis.
An Oregon teacher (middle school teacher in Neil Armstrong Middle School) was placed on paid administrative leave for saying his day was “brightened” by Kirk’s murder in a Facebook post.
A member of the New Orleans Fire Department allegedly posted that the bullet that hit Kirk was “a gift from god.” The department said the comment was “insensitive” and under investigation.
A Texas football coach (also a teacher) in Klein ISD was fired for social media posts about Kirk’s killing that were judged “controversial” by the district.
A teacher in Midland Independent School District in Texas was placed on administrative leave for remarks in class about Kirk’s death, which appeared to celebrate it.
A school resource officer in Somers, Westchester County, New York, was removed for social media posts celebrating or joking about Kirk’s death.
There are many, many more. And they are your people.
"Shut up," Kaka explained.
Also, any voting software should have bulletproof logs. I worked on software that did far less important stuff, and if you didn't have a bulletproof system to log administrative actions, it was not considered "fit for service," but somehow this is not required for voting software. Why not?
"Shut up," he explained.
“ And of course, there were the early days of the republic with the fights between Adams and Jefferson.”
The funny things there, historically, are that while Jefferson was the main author of the Declaration of Independence, Adams helped proof it, and was the one who sold it. And they died the same day.
Just words. Just speeches.
They shot Trump.
I bookmarked your comment to play back to you, you do this all the time.
Do what? Point out when you all are spewing bullshit? I will take that as a compliment. FLC specifically said "teachers are showing their students" the video. He posted a link to support his contention. But if you read his cite, it was one teacher in Toronto.
Trump should carpet bomb all of the cities that aren’t gnashing their teeth and sobbing loud enough in their mourning of Charlie Kirk.
- MAGAt Braintrust
What I am saying Freder, is that you use one offs to characterize MAGA all the time. I am not going to search one up, but next time you do it, I will call you on it.
Well Hag, Biden essentially threatened to do just that when he told Americans he had F-15s to use against Americans. But Trump has never said anything close to that. In fact, Biden made that threat based on the left’s lie on what Trump said at Charlottesville.
And what about the examples I gave, Freder?
How could you leave off that they both died on the 4th of July? Or that's what the history books say. Maybe Adams heard that Jefferson died on the 4th and said "Hold my beer!"
Yes, what Biden supposedly said is terrible.
Remember when Biden had his masked storm troopers stuff people in vans without any process?
What a fascist piece of shit. His followers have no bottom for cheering that on.
Remember "Dark Brandon" where he posted two US Marines in full uniform behind him while he gave his speech from a podium, and with lighting and set design that was plainly reminiscent of the Nazi "Reichsadler." What the hell was that about?
Peter Baker : "Can someone rid me of this troublesome republican"
Hag, Are you suggesting that we eliminate all immigration laws or we are far. right nazis? Talk about inflammatory rhetoric! If we try to enforce the laws duly passed by Congress, we are nazis? I guess that assassination is too good for us, then, is that what you are implying?
Tell me again how”unity” should be our goal. Don’t we chose between two candidates who have different views of where we are and where we need to go?
Obama et al affirmatively divided Americans. Trump rhetorically divided, and actively united Americans. Automatons decode and present prevailing handmade tales for consumption by Anthropogenic Intelligence (AI). It's like an episode of The Outer Limits set in The Matrix.
Yes, anything short of rounding people up and disapearing them with no process is not enforcing immigration laws.
Tell me again how”unity” should be our goal.
It's not. The claim is we live in a democracy. Perhaps they are correct.
”Funny. No mention of Biden calling half the country a threat to democracy.”
One must keep in mind the criteria Althouse provided to the AI engine. ChatGPT never mentioned Biden because it operates on the assumption that Joe Biden was never POTUS.
Except they are going through a process. That is why the Florida Alcatraz existed. It was holding until processing could be completed and extradition occurred. You know about it, so it isn’t “disappearing” them either.
Not satisfied to live in a democracy, with progress, a DEImocracy that entertains abortive ideation to protect its selfie virtue, special and peculiar interests, and other purposes.
History reverberates in a catastrophic cacophony.
I find it fascinating that Adams's quote is as accurate today as it was 227 years ago. Dude was a visionary.
Our goal should not be unity under ethical principles, but reconciliation under moral principles. It should not be democracy, but a representative republic under a Constitution that mitigates authoritarian, Diversity, congruent, redistributive progress.
FLC. -Trump gets his talking points from you? That explains so much. Thanks!
"anything short of rounding people up and disapearing them with no process"
So they are being deported "unless they claim asylum and pass an interview with a U.S. asylum officer" per CBS News, and this is claimed to be "without due process." And yet of the hundreds of thousands of undocumented Democrats, err, I mean deportees, only seven are known to have turned out to be US citizens, oh wait, not deported, but detained. Lot's of people not proven guilty of crimes get detained on suspicion of this or that, but that doesn't seem like a huge number.
So I guess you are saying that unless this process can achieve absolution perfection, we should abolish immigration laws.
Ok, that’s irrefutable logic. I know where Auschwitz is, therefore nothing horrible or morally reprehensible happened there.
So you area calling the people enforcing Congress's immigration laws Nazis and comparing sending them home to sending them to Auschwitz, but not calling for the measures that, were these things you say are true would be called for, such as violent resistance.
Got it.
Utah Governor Spencer Cox has been a valuable public voice, addressing the situation with clarity and composure, aiming to promote reconciliation. This stands in stark contrast to Trump's approach.
/Cox said that social media has played a “direct role” in fueling political violence in the US, as the country grapples with the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at a college in the state last week.
“I believe that social media has played a direct role in every single assassination and assassination attempt that we have seen over the last five, six years,” Cox said on Sunday.
Cox, a Republican, has spoken out strongly against social media companies in the wake of the killing and has likened the addictive nature of their algorithms to drugs. “It took us a decade to realise how evil these algorithms are,” he said./ ~ FT
Lincoln 1858
"A house divided against itself cannot stand. ...This nation connot continue to exist half slave and half free."
Based on these quotes, I think Lincoln was the most divisive President ever while he is also the President who held the Union together even as he resolved the slavery issue.
I think we now have a dispute about whether socialism can or cannot achieve economic justice in a society if it is allowed a completely free hand. Those who have observed the actual effects of socialism since 1917 are clear that socialism is government of the people, by the grifters, for the grifters and that it always involves murder, torture, arrest and banning of free speakers. We see it behaving in its familiar way. On the other hand, those young chuckleheads who move phone in hand through a digital dream imagine that 21st century socialism will be like an Amazon series; that they'll just watch as the evil are detected, outsmarted and punished and then the series gets a million likes and send out for pizza. Older grifters circle about these tourists of their own time abducting sons and daughters and forming them into armies of the enslaved, human robo-killers, zombie teachers, mutilated men and women who show off their mutilations as if they were diamonds, armies of the petty who spend their short human lives on spite and malice and applause for any murders committed on any lefty pretext.
How will it all end? A Great Awakening?
Unity to the left = bow to them.
The Adams quote has the look of an AI hallucination. He did not have a reputation for the sort of verbal incompetence which could produce such a botchery as "deluged with the floodgates of immorality".
To be clear, I’m calling masked men detaining brown people and jettisoning them off to random nations to which they have no affiliation to be acting in an authoritarian and cruel manner and yes, it’s fascism.
I’m calling the people who cheer it on, MAGAts.
When someone reads this a loud to you, I hope you understand.
In fact, very few presidents wanted to transcend partisanship. The rhetoric was part of their goal of getting what they wanted.
Paul @ 2:23. Indeed you're right.</a
Why would Trump feel any hostility toward the left? They’ve done nothing to him other than infiltrate his first term with informants, impeach him twice, engage in endless spurious lawfare against him, defame him, shoot him and file over 350 actions in front of corrupt judges to thwart his administration.
I agree that both the left and the right have a violent fringe. The trans movement, however, has a sane fringe. The lunatics run that asylum. There might be some trans people who are moderate and mature in their judgment, but you seldom hear from them.......I give Trump credit for not being a hypocrite. Complaints about his rhetoric are sometimes justified. I've never read any liberal criticize the hypocrisy of the leading Dems and it's rank.
The sign off of the letter Bush 41 left in his desk for Bill Clinton (who, remember, took away Bush's second term):
Your success now is our country's success. I am rooting hard for you.
Good luck - George
The only reason they are being sent to nations "to which they have no affiliation" is because they were allowed the process to proclaim asylum from their home country, and a judge agreed that they could not be sent back to their home country. So once again, you are entirely mispresenting events, and it seems you are working yourself into a rationale for hatred of people based on that misrepresentation.
So blather, blather blather,…….yes they were disappeared to random nations but it was because …….blather blather blather blather.
And the campers at Treblinka were just taking showers.
I don’t fully buy the social media angle. Social media may be the fire, but the calumniating leftmediaswine are the fuel. A sweet, Christian neighbor of our described Charlie as a divisive bigot to another little old lady from assisted living who never heard of him. Asked if she had heard him speak, “No,” but she had read about him. The papers on her stoop every day, NYT and LA Times.
loudogblog said...
File this article under: It's only bad when Trump does it.
Plus, I would have included Obama's famous, "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun" quote.
This one was far worse:
You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
wtf would ‘unity’ look like? Trump granting citizenship to 10-15 million illegals then locking himself up?
If you take a country that is divided 50/50 and convert it to one that is 80/20, haven't you massively REDUCED the division?
Not according to the Left.
See, when the Left and Right disagree on something, it's the Right - and only the Right - who gets labeled as divisive.
If we simply agreed with every, damn thing the Left wants? No more division.
Nothing false in Obama’s statement but it was hurtful to Christonationalist, ammo sexuals to hear it said aloud. Like Hilary’s deplorable comment.
Leland: “So once again, you are entirely mispresenting events, and it seems you are working yourself into a rationale for hatred of people based on that misrepresentation.”
“Working yourself into?” TBH’s lying notwithstanding, you are missing the main point. There is no “working into.” The misrepresentation flows from the hatred. It’s who they are. Worse, they believe both are justified. That’s why Kirk is dead and Trump lives in danger.
The collective democratic left are all liars.
this is who they are.
Amadeus said:
"Dems say If you agree with us, we have met halfway in the great traditions of our country. If you don't agree with us you are haters and racists and fascists of the worst sort and, frankly, worse than Hitler."
100%
Obama repeatedly calling his white grandmother racist on the campaign trail because she once said she feared the black thugs who threatened her at the bus stop from where she went to work long hours every day to send Obama to private school, keep his CIA mommy in new husbands as she spent 20 years writing a dissertation, paying for Obama's universities, his worldwide travel to the plantations of his rich, coke-snorting, Paki, slave-owning college pals, and paying the downpayment for his and Michelle's first mansion.
His grandparents had a car, but his pervy, unemployed, fetishistic grandfather used it to bring Obama to visit black, gay, communist pornographer Frank Marshall Davis to radicalize -- and in my opinion, based on Obama's college poetry, possibly abuse him.
TeaBagHag said...
"To be clear, I’m calling masked men detaining brown people and jettisoning them off to random nations to which they have no affiliation to be acting in an authoritarian and cruel manner and yes, it’s fascism.
I’m calling the people who cheer it on, MAGAts.
When someone reads this a loud to you, I hope you understand."
You seem to unclear on the meaning of ,"illegal". If you wish to discuss this idea I'm sure there are others here open to discussion.
Helpful tip; If you want to honestly want to engage us it's helpful that you don't referr to us with slurs. We will respond in kind.
Chat GPT is obviously idiotic. Next time you're looking for such wisdom, buy a pint for a homeless person.
TeaBagHag said...
To be clear, I’m calling masked men detaining brown people and jettisoning them off to random nations to which they have no affiliation to be acting in an authoritarian and cruel manner and yes, it’s fascism.
I’m calling the people who cheer it on, MAGAts.
When someone reads this a loud to you, I hope you understand.
Good. Don't be a coward and do it out in the open.
We fully understand you want us shot and killed. Prepare for us to respond in a rational manner.
mpersand said...
As a litigator, I have dealt with conflict for almost five decades. Usually, conflicts have features that lend themselves to negotiation and, thus, compromise. Conflict that is non-negotiable typically involves a dispute that goes to the core of each side's identity. People can't compromise because doing so would negate their essential selves. I worry that we collectively have found ourselves in a non-negotiable dispute.
It's hard to be President of all the people when 40% or more of the population has been persuaded by their leaders that you deserve the Bolsonaro treatment. Thanks Ed Markey et al.
This +1
Dems - spy on Catholics
R's - we want to root out your democratic Antifa Terrorist network
Dems - call everyone a racist.
White on black crime - data proven - is almost non-existent.
Dems - Restorative Justice = let the bad guys go free to roam to harm and murder at will.
Normals: Lock up the bad guys.
"disappeared"
You've really had an appalling education.
Traditionally "disappeared" has meant killed. These people, ( ICE recently deported some Koreans and Chinese here illegally), not only have these people not been killed we know exactly where they are.
If you want to hang around and discuss stuff you're going to have to do better.
The cowardly left built a hate-machine - then denied they built it. Democratics in power inspired and built the antifa-jihadi network of hate and assassination.
The left's terrorist inspiring words:
"Trump is an existential threat to democracy"
"Trump is Hitler"
"Trump is a fascist"
"Trump is a King"
"Trump's supporters are fascists"
"Trump is a Nazi"
“Trump's supporters are Nazis"
"Trump is a dictator and he will end our democracy"
“Trump is an existential threat to democracy”
“Trump’s supporters are an existential threat to democracy”
“We're in a war right now to save this country. And so you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary in order to save the country." – Senator Chris Murphy(D)
“This fascist administration didn’t come from anywhere... We’re gonna fight, fight, FIGHT!” –AOC
"Charlie Kirk wasn’t a fascist. They don’t kill you for being fascist. They call you a fascist so they can kill you."
Nancy Pelosi OKed the Charlie Kirk Murder.
TeaBagHag said...
Nothing false in Obama’s statement but it was hurtful to Christonationalist, ammo sexuals to hear it said aloud. Like Hilary’s deplorable comment.
I agree.
There is also nothing false in describing globalist shitheads who send all manufacturing to China to make more money and import a foreign workforce to depress wages as enemies of the working class.
Also important to note that the first thing that fascists and socialists always do before committing mass murder in countries they control is to disarm the people and that we can easily see that you want to kill us and make sure we can't fight back.
We also notice that you are atheists and you hate the religion this country was founded on and that atheists like Mao, Stalin, and Hitler have a certain track record.
I have known you wanted us dead for a long time. Now you killed Charlie and the rest of the country is on board with me.
Charlie was one of the nicest people in the country. He was always polite and civil. You killed him and you dance on his grave.
I just find it too bad Charlie had to die for the rest of the non-progressive left to understand just exactly what you people are.
They built a terror network - but demand we be nice ot them.
FUCK THE NEW YORK TIMES.
Among the major failures of both Presidents Bush was their failure to realize that a large part of the left is not willing to negotiate in good faith. Trump has taken the lessons learned.
Biden repeatedly accused Republicans of "extremism" that was "a fundamental threat to American democracy" but apparently is apparently so unmemorable no one can come up with a quote.
The illiberal left is at it again
New Bill Would Allow Rubio to Strip US Citizens’ Passports Over Political Speech ~ The Intercept
'The legislation would allow the Secretary of State to strip anyone’s US passport with no legal due process.'
While the violent Democratic left blow a hole in your jugular - they would like you to remain calm and lower the temperature.
Nancy Pelosi is still out their enraging and igniting her Antifa-Jihadists - saying Trump is a fascist.
it's ok to kill all the fascists - huh leftists?
Keep scrolling on James Woods' X feed - you can see clearly the difference between the left and the Right.
Obama would always say we need unity instead of division.. and then 10 seconds later say how bad the Republicans are and they need to be jailed....
TeaBagHag said...
Ok, that’s irrefutable logic. I know where Auschwitz is, therefore nothing horrible or morally reprehensible happened there.
Got it.
Everyone who wants immigration law enforced is a NAZI and you want them killed.
We hear you loud and clear.
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Kakistocracy said...
The illiberal left is at it again
New Bill Would Allow Rubio to Strip US Citizens’ Passports Over Political Speech ~ The Intercept
'The legislation would allow the Secretary of State to strip anyone’s US passport with no legal due process.'
No links. No quotes. No actual statements by anyone.
First off we get it. You think we are evil fascists and you want us killed.
Second you are lying. Nobody even knows what you are talking about. But with near 100% certainty based off your history here we know you are a dishonest piece of shit that lies about what we want and uses those lies to justify killing us.
It's illegal and against the law to enter The US illegally.
Lying is the backbone of the corrupt and evil Democratic Party and the Democratic Party's super-allegiant adherents.
TeaBagHag said...
Yes, anything short of rounding people up and disapearing them with no process is not enforcing immigration laws.
Dishonest and evil. We know you want us all dead. We get it.
To unite with what the left has become would be like the turtle agreeing to ferry the scorpion across the river.
Our Soviet-Democratic media did not cover the heinous and cruel murder of a Ukrainian woman - because of the left's cruel Restorative justice... and inept yet loyal to Soros - Democratic Mayor.
The left stand shoulder to shoulder with violent criminals.
BUT - if that same girl was murdered by a white man - Soviet-Democratic media hacks would be all over it.
Illegal aliens do not fall under Due process rules.
The Right
The LEFT
THE LEFT
Obama's son. Obama's "burden" of evidence and advocacy for the fourth choice or Pro-Choice religion.
"When will this rhetoric end?
I guess when you kill us all.
Most divisive Obama statement: “The Cambridge Police acted stupidly,” in the Skip Gates incident. This set the pattern that no police action on blacks is ever justified. Which led to BLM and a lot of cops (some of them black!) in prison for doing their jobs. Which led to Defund the Police and a reversal of the progress so many cities had made in the 90s and ought. CC, JSM
Oughts, ie 2000-2010. Damn autocorrect. CC, JSM
Kak sez, "New Bill Would Allow Rubio to Strip US Citizens’ Passports Over Political Speech ~ The Intercept"
I'd rather have my passport cancelled than be shot in the neck.
Rubio already has the authority to revoke or deny a passport for many reasons, including delinquent taxes and unpaid child support. Given the political motivations behind many existing revocation criteria, why get agitated over another criterion regarding incitement to murder… Oh, wait, I get it… if your only political tactic boils down to incitement to murder, then you might resent having your documents revoked.
Obama's gun and knife reference and recommendation were forward-looking. Why not both.
TeaBagHag said...
"To be clear, I’m calling masked men detaining brown people and jettisoning them off to random nations to which they have no affiliation to be acting in an authoritarian and cruel manner and yes, it’s fascism.I’m calling the people who cheer it on, MAGAts.
When someone reads this a loud to you, I hope you understand."
***************
That's "clear" all right; it's clearly ignorant bullshit. If 95% of illegals are hispanic, it's just incidental to them being illegal aliens. It's not illegal or invidious "discrimination". Justice Kavenaugh stressed that in a decision just the other day.
The "random nations" claim is simply wrong. Most illegals are returned to their home countries. The guy sent to Africa claimed he would be persecuted if he were sent to **twenty-two** other nations he was given a choice of. So he pissed in his own Cuervo Gold.
You're left to complain about rigorous enforcement of federal laws passed years ago by both houses of Congress, all of them with bipartisan majorities.
"The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) -passed in 1996"
"This set of laws expanded the list of crimes for which both legal and undocumented immigrants could be subject to mandatory detention and deportation. IIRIRA defined a greatly expanded range of criminal convictions – including relatively minor, nonviolent ones – for which legal permanent residents could be automatically deported. IIRIRA also made it much more difficult for people fleeing persecution to apply for asylum.
"The legislation passed with strong bipartisan support, particularly in the final conference report vote where the House margin was overwhelming at 370-37."
Wow. Dems and Republicans almost unanimously passed that legislation. And notorious fascist (!!) Bill Clinton signed it into law.
Apparently we've been a fascist nation for almost 30 years!
Howdy, bb and narciso… :)
Anyone who owns
Rachel Maddow's Book (A manual to promote leftist antifa terrorism) should be labeled a would-be terrorist. They should be red-flagged, marked with caution and not allowed go near or own any type of firearm.
PuhLEEZE! Congress can't simply carve out exceptions to 14th amendment "due process" rights, PARTICULARLY when addressing other Constitutional rights such as the First Amendment.
I hate to use that famously right wing group NPR but there does seem to be more than one teacher without a soul:
"NPR has compiled a list from news reports of 33 people who have lost their jobs or are under investigations over their posts as of Friday. Most were public school teachers, with at least 21 educators in school districts across the country fired, put on administrative leave or placed under investigation by their employers."
- NPR
blather, blather blather = actual facts that fly in the face of your lies.
Got it.
Tea Bag shit-for-brains- Terrorist/ Antifa
Read- effenayright's post @ 4:19
When you try to assault an ICE officer - you are disobeying the law.
Nothing false in Obama’s statement but it was hurtful to Christonationalist, ammo sexuals to hear it said aloud.
Nothing false in Trump's statement, either. Which is why you changed the subject to illegal immigration.
Cloward Piven /millions of illegal criminal aliens allowed in under a criminal regime. Joe Biden - Mafia Puppet.
The Antifa left demand due process for all of them.
That is NOT the law.
“I’m calling the people who cheer it on, MAGAts.
When someone reads this a loud to you, I hope you understand.”
And I’m calling the evil pieces of excrement that share TB Haggis’s way of “thinking” malevolent assholes. Nothing more, nothing less.
maga has the supreme court, the house, the senate, the presidency with zero resistance. They can enforce any laws, pass any bills, dismantle anything they don't like, gain a stake in Intel, keep out immigrants, they can do whatever they want. But I have never seen such a bunch of people wallowing in self-pitying, with the commander in chief also being the bellyacher, grouser, griper, winer in chief with the first words always "It's the liberals fault!"
Just rule the nation for goodness sake. I'm sick of the self-pity and everyone is out to get me attitude. You have all the levers of power, use them and quit complaining about how the liberals are out to get you.
Right-thinking folks need to rejoice at the love and respect for Charlie Kirk being expressed around our world and forget the insane hatred spewed by the Douchebag Left.
But never forget what they’ve done and are still doing. They have unleashed the whirlwind and they will ultimately pay the price.
I assume you all know that Tea Bag Hag is a demented gay man who wants to be a woman and puts men's ball sacs in his mouth.
Why would anyone want to respond to such a creature?
Maynard, a temporary action done in respect of Charlie.
Peachy said...
Illegal aliens do not fall under Due process rules.
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Yes, they do. the 14th amendment language protects "persons", including illegal aliens, not just citizens. The Supremes have said so. See Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982)
But the nature of "due process" for such individuals is not the same as that available to citizens and legal entrants:
"...Due process rights vary based on an individual's connection to the United States. Expedited removal can now be applied to anyone in the country who has been present for less than two years without being lawfully admitted , but people with longer presence or stronger ties have greater due process protections.
So the law creates a tiered system: minimal review for recent border crossers under Section 235, but more robust due process rights (including the ability to challenge government actions in court) for those with deeper U.S. connections, even if they're undocumented." AI Claude
So they do - but they don't - is what you are saying.
effeneyright - OK -thanks. Once again - the point of flooding millions of illegal in - is to cloward-piven and overwhelm our legal system.
The law you point out - cannot realistically support millions and millions of illegals. It's impossible. Why the corrupt left did it.
"You have all the levers of power, use them and quit complaining about how the liberals are out to get you."
These guys are just trying to radicalize us with this kind of rhetoric.
I just noticed that I never used to say "we" and "us" until this murder.
Effineyright-
the best idea i heard was to force illegal immigrants to return to their home county while they wait for their "court date"
bonrici - - #1 - not liberals.
#2 = the left are radical progressive democratic terrorists - and they are out to get us. They created the hate and rage that killed Charlie.
#3 - Trump and the imperfect GOP are making progress on many fronts. Your team D tosses grenades.
Peachy said...
effeneyright - OK -thanks. Once again - the point of flooding millions of illegal in - is to cloward-piven and overwhelm our legal system.
The law you point out - cannot realistically support millions and millions of illegals. It's impossible. Why the corrupt left did it.
**************
I agree with you. If the GOP trounces the Dems in the 2026 mid-terms I hope it and Trump will pass laws imposing stiff penalties (and enforcing them!) on state governments supporting and businesses hiring illegals.
No BS about them doing the work Americans won't do---we had fruits and veggies before the illegal invasion.
The higher prices we might pay for them is dwarfed by the multi-billions of dollars taxpayers will be forced to pony up annually to provide for the goverrnment and private goods, services and welfare they will demand.
But a continuing gridlock in Congress will mean Cloward-Piven has worked.
effeneyright - This is the guy FormerLawClerk is talking about.
You OK with that rhetoric? He's a school teacher.
I never know who’s trolling. Peachy, do you really believe there should be a list of books that whoever reads them can’t own a gun. So you admit that you don’t believe in the 1st and 2nd amendment. Well maybe you should move somewhere where they share your views rather than try to dismantle our republic.
Just to point out that good ol' Kak quoted from Utah Governor Cox's news conference today about the evils of social media... but, very curiously, did not quote Governor Cox pointing out that Kirk's assassin was steeped in far left ideology and was dating a man who was "transitioning."
I wonder how Kak just forgot to mention that Kirk was assassinated by a leftist holding the same views as Kak and TeaBag and inga? Must have slipped Kak's mind or something.....
Reddit is a cesspool of radical leftist mental illness.
Jim5301
NO - Just the Rachel Maddow book found here
It lines up with the left's non-stop hatred and lies used to radicalize their base.
I'm not saying the book should be banned - but that if anyone owns it - they could be a potential Tyler Robinson.... and proper reg flag alerts could be warranted.
The book builds rage and inspired assassination.
Similar to most of what comes out of MSNBC... and elite democratics in power.
like this:
List of The left's terrorist inspiring words:
"Trump is an existential threat to democracy"
"Trump is Hitler"
"Trump is a fascist"
"Trump is a King"
"Trump's supporters are fascists"
"Trump is a Nazi"
“Trump's supporters are Nazis"
"Trump is a dictator and he will end our democracy"
“Trump is an existential threat to democracy”
“Trump’s supporters are an existential threat to democracy”
“We're in a war right now to save this country. And so you have to be willing to do whatever is necessary in order to save the country." – Senator Chris Murphy(D)
“This fascist administration didn’t come from anywhere... We’re gonna fight, fight, FIGHT!” –AOC
Remember - leftists: "Charlie Kirk wasn’t a fascist. They don’t kill you for being fascist. They call you a fascist so they can kill you."
Reality check: Trump 1 was in many ways a Democrat. he certainly would have been happy to cut all sorts of deals with the Dems
But they completely and utterly refused to work with him.
He broke their hearts by winning, and they refused to accept that they weren't going to get everything.
Then when they got him out of office, they tried to destroy his life, and murder him.
No shit he's not interested in "uniting" with them, only an idiot would pretend that's even possible
Peachy said...
effeneyright - This is the guy FormerLawClerk is talking about.
You OK with that rhetoric? He's a school teacher.
************
Not at all! But FLC is talking about another civil war, or worse. Same idea, essentially. Samples:
"They're one inch from an actual hot firing Revolution in the United States and they're all going to be burned at the stake, and they know it."
FormerLawClerk said...
"Trump should carpet bomb all of the cities that aren’t gnashing their teeth and sobbing loud enough in their mourning of Charlie Kirk."
No, he should use a neutron bomb. Such a bomb kills the people, but leaves the infrastructure for plundering....
We've had this technology since 1960 and spent a lot of US taxpayer dollars creating the bomb.
Trump just needs to dust some off. He could unite the country by eliminating the bad half and leaving all their houses and stuff for the rest of us to use."
*********
You OK with that "thinking"?
First Ammendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Nothing about stopping the building of terrorism and assassins.
Effeneyright - Yeah - close to the edge.. some of that. yes.
But we are really pissed that a pile of shit zit faced MSNBC-Reddit- probably-Maddow furry-fool was able to kill a nice guy who liked to talk to people.
Left thinking folks need to rejoice at all the love and respect being shown to Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark.around the world and forget the hatred being spewed by MAGAts.
But never forget what they’ve done and are still doing.
They have unleashed the whirlwind and they will ultimately pay the price.
Well well well
Looks like a group of transtifa-jihadi radicalized leftist democratics...
Until now I never noticed that re Althouse tags: 'Bush' is re the second Bush that was the president of the US. And the 'Bush I' tag references the first Bush that was POTUS.
This seems like a nomenclature error. The evolution should go none, one, two, etc. Or one, two, three, etc. But how can you go zero and then one?
After the First World War, we didn't call the Second World War, 'The World War."
Logic is tricky.
Don't ever forget how Charlie's wife feels. She was robbed of a husband and father to her children - just because many in the homosexual and trans community are filled with mentally ill rage...
Never forget how Mellisa and Mark Hortman’s children feel. They were robbed of their loving parents a just because many in the Christo fascist, ammo sexual community are filled with impotent rage.
jim5301 said...
"I never know who’s trolling. Peachy, do you really believe there should be a list of books that whoever reads them can’t own a gun. So you admit that you don’t believe in the 1st and 2nd amendment. Well maybe you should move somewhere where they share your views rather than try to dismantle our republic."
Ya gotta admit. You guys can't seem to control yourselves around firearms. Even after all the laws you passed to prevent people like you from owning firearms.
TeaBagHag said...
Left thinking folks need to rejoice at all the love and respect being shown to Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark.around the world and forget the hatred being spewed by MAGAts.
"all the hatred" being "spewed" by the people the Hag calls "maggots".
Yeah, Hag, I think when it comes to "spewing hatred", no one beats you.
She was the tie breaking vote, with all the Republicans in the MN State house, in order to stop MN taxpayers paying for health care for adult illegal aliens. There were no Republicans calling for her death before she was kill, and none celebrating it afterwords.
Which is entirely different from the Left's actual political violence.
Isn't it amusing that all the Lefties focus on this one killing, that was done by, at worst, a nut, as the only actual example of "Republican political violence"?
Tells you that there really isn't any Republican / Right wing political violence in America, it's pretty much only a pathology of the Left.
Because otherwise the Hags of this world would have some actual examples
Gun to a knife fight.
Left thinking folks need to rejoice at all the love and respect being shown to Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark.
Yes they should have. Instead, many on the left blamed her for casting a vote against providing illegals healthcare.
TeaBagHag said...
Never forget how Mellisa and Mark Hortman’s children feel. They were robbed of their loving parents a just because
A nutcase who was appointed by Tim Walz, D governor and former D VP candidate, to some boards, and who apparently
"decided" that he should kill some Democrats to make it easier for Walz to run for the US Senate.
This is "Republicans fault" because otherwise there's no actual political violence for TBH to "blame" on Republicans.
It's like the lying dirtbags who tried to pin Lochner shooting Giffords on Sarah Palin. Just as dishonest
"Don't ever forget how Charlie's wife feels. She was robbed of a husband and father to her children - just because many in the homosexual and trans community are filled with mentally ill rage"
Okay I won't forget that one murder. But don't we also have way more than ten thousand people that are murdered every year?
How often have you typed out support for all of those way more than ten thousand (per year) victims? Did you forget them?
Since you don't fuss about most of these murdered folks, is it logical for us to call you a bad/evil/disgusting/heinous person because you gave exactly zero Fs re way more than ten thousand murdered folks per year? If you want to say murder is only important when you care about the victims political views, you are a POS.
IMHO.
Le D - this one was a poiltical assassination. oh and fuck you.
Much of the high murder and crime rates are due to democratic Soros light-on crime laws. POS - Le D.
I’m sorry peachy. Didn’t realize that you only are concerned about 1 books. I wrongly assumed there might be other books you found equally distasteful
In no sane world should one be deemed a terrorist for saying that Trump is an existential threat to democracy. I have little doubt that you said the same about Obama and Biden and others. That doesn’t make you a terrorist.
jim5301
Charlie Kirk is dead because of Democratic party -over the top invective and hatred.
Kirk's assassination was a way for leftists to tell us to shut up.
Well 2 can plat that game, Rachel Mddow(D) is a terrorist builder.
Gun to a knife fight.
A scalpel to perform a human rite.
A "burden" is a "burden" is a "burden". h/t Obama
"Le D - this one was a poiltical assassination. oh and fuck you."
You are a POS when you say you don't care about families that suffer a family member being murdered unless the murder is related to politics that you support.
"Much of the high murder and crime rates are due to democratic Soros light-on crime laws. POS - Le D."
There are a ton of murders in Texas. In your bigoted mind, are Texas murders because of Soros and other Jews or libtards the other stuff that you hate such that your brain is focused on caring about murder as long as the victims agrees with your politics?
Sicko.
Never said anything about Obama.
Biden's actions prompted truth telling. And that did nothing to you leftists but create more liars out of you all.
Again -
"Charlie Kirk wasn’t a fascist. They don’t kill you for being fascist. They call you a fascist so they can kill you."
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