For what it's worth. From the NYT. Gift link, because I don't value spending my time on this.
The first bulletpoint is the one of most interest though not at all surprising, considering her interests: "Maxwell praised Trump and distanced him from Epstein."
ADDED: You can read or listen to all of the interviews at the Department of Justice website: here.
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…considering her interests, what would she say if Trump was actually distanced from Epstein instead of, implying- without evidence- what’s being implied?
Ah HAH! Proof that Trump WAS involved on Epstein Island! /s
I was just reading that. Maxwell was in a long relationship with Ted Waitt. Ted is from Sioux City, Iowa and founded Gateway Computers with his brother Norm.
She said something like, “When a girl turns 30 she starts to think about marriage and children.” And she thought Epstein might be the one!
Everyone knows that there is any evidence whatsoever in the Epstein files that showed Trump had anything to do with underage kids Joe Biden would’ve released it immediately.
Trump isn’t in the Epstein files because he never participated in any of these crimes.
All of the people Who pretend Trump was in these files in anyway are the same people who pretended that Trump clued with Russia, That protesters killed Brian Sicknick, And that Trump asking Ukraine to investigate Biden‘s corruption is an impeachable offense.
Virginia Giuffre claimed to have seen Clinton on the island in 2002.
Now she is dead.
Again - apparently there is no client list - Only a phone book.
Which is close to being a client list. Just because a name is in there, does not mean that person is a "client."
Well, if there is no client list, it's because the people investigating Maxwell chose not to create one. Presumably there were crimes involved, and people involved in those crimes other than the minors, and presumably, if Maxwell is guilty of something to the certain knowledge of the state, the state knows who these people are who made the acts criminal. So if there is any evidence against Maxwell, a list could be assembled by some junior researchers, if the powerful people controlling the list—cough cough, Mossad, CIA Operations—or the powerful people on the list, would simply allow such a list to be created.
We are run be a collection of gangsters. Michael's speech to Congress in the Godfather was prescient. If you ever watched the documentary "William Colby" you would have a pretty good idea that Godfather III had a lot of truth in it too.
The NY Times is still trying to tie Trump to Epstein, picking out the various breadcrumbs they leave behind to guide readers to the desired connection makes for fun reading.
I find that as Epstein becomes more ordinary in these tellings, the story of his success becomes more interesting. How did that schlub do so well? Maxwell, even if telling the truth as she sees it, is a biased source. I'd like to know more, not because I think the case is important, but because it is interesting. F. Scott Fitzgerald could write the story.
Of course she distanced Trump from Epstein. Unless Bill Gates runs for president this is her one and only chance at clemency. Trump should let that scum rot in prison and get as far away from that stain on humanity as he can.
"considering her interests, what would she say if Trump was actually distanced from Epstein instead of, implying- without evidence- what’s being implied?"
What are you implying, and what is your evidence?
We know that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar a Lago, which strongly suggests that Epstein had nothing on him, or it would have come out in a press which hates Trump, especially during the Biden Administration, when attempts were made to jail Trump.
So Ms. Maxwell, there is no list? None at all?
Nope, never made a list.
Well here's a pen and paper. If you every want to cut a deal I'd start writing.
Before the election, MAGA said its top priorities were ending inflation and releasing the Epstein files. Now, MAGA says its top priorities are defunding scientific research and prosecuting John Bolton.
It's funny how our resident lefties cling to suspicions based solely on their perceptions of a political enemy of theirs, and ignore the actual evidence that is out there.
The DoJ can walk and chew gum at the same time, Kak. Game theory says that tit for tat is the only really proven strategy for what Biden did to Trump in the famous panty raid.
It's a can of worms that your side opened. But does that paragraph that you wrote really hold together logically and coherently in your mind?
Apparently Trump’s personal attorney Todd Blanche forgot a jury of her peers heard evidence that Maxwell abused children and convicted her.
Convicted sex trafficker who taught young girls how to blow old men says sole person on earth who can pardon her did nothing wrong.
This is laughable coming from Maxwell.
The sex trafficker and perjurer exonerated the one man who can free her. I am totally persuaded.
When a girl turns 30 she starts to think about marriage and children, but when she turns 13, Jeffrey Epstein starts to think about her?
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The media pride themselves on Watergate. Unjustifiably. But it wasn't as though Nixon had a list of "co-conspirators" locked up in his safe. The media put a list together from what they knew. Mostly from what Mark Felt told them.
Anyway, most of the time, "the list" comes out out of the investigations. Or fabrications. It isn't something the malefactors keep squirreled away. Epstein knew what he had on Clinton or Richardson or what he could get out of them. He didn't need to put it in writing.
Kakis hit the nail on its head. Nothing left to say.
"The sex trafficker and perjurer exonerated the one man who can free her."
Joe Biden had the evidence and the power to imprison Trump and he passed on it, and went for a bunch of other weaker cases, but the fact that Trump won the election proves he's guilty in Kakis's mind.
No amount of evidence will convince the true morons like Kakabich and Inga among others. They didn't reason themselves into this belief and no amount of reason will get them out of it.
This really is one of those life IQ tests and these people failed it spectacularly. Even if I were the most vehement anti-Trump person, I would still understand that Trump wasn't incriminated in the DoJ files because I would know with 100% certainty that Joe Biden's people would have selectively released those facts between 2020 and 2024. You just gotta laugh at these morons because you really can't do anything else to help them.
Before the election, MAGA said its top priorities were ending inflation and releasing the Epstein files. Now, MAGA says its top priorities are defunding scientific research and prosecuting John Bolton.
It's gettin' tough out here for Kak, but he dutifully continues his gangland slayings of straw men.
Is Maxwell not gulty of a bunch of state crimes over which Trump has no pardon authority? I don't see her skating out of prison on a Trump pardon. And at this point, a pardon by Trump is a political impossibility, due to Maxwells's own testimony. Any pardon now would make Trump look guilty. So her testimony, as a strategic move to get a pardon makes zero sense.
"Before the election, MAGA said its top priorities were ending inflation and releasing the Epstein files." (emphasis added)
Bullshit.
Stay with me now: The absence of evidence is Proof !
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Repetition is all they have, it's the hammer in the propagandist's tool belt.
This comment thread shows that "your truth" is determined by the facts you believe, not the facts you can't allow yourself to believe. We're only what, seven months into this now?
It's early. There are a lot of facts remaining to be deployed to wear down the shield of belief. Where will his opposition be when Trump has had twenty months to sandblast that shield? How about forty months?
What do I want to see?
Call me Joe Friday.
Kakistocracy said...
Before the election, MAGA said...
Before Kaki, we had one less terminally butt-hurt lib on here to laugh at.
For what it's worth.
Not much.
From the NYT.
Makes it worth even less.
“It's gettin' tough out here for Kak, but he dutifully continues his gangland slayings of straw men.”
There are plenty of bad actors in politics, however, on balance, most don't go on vacations or develop long-term relationships with a child sex-trafficker who has been credibly involved in hundreds if not more than a thousand cases of abuse. The fact that the trafficker also had ties to at least one intelligence agency and was effectively protected for years by major political figures is another issue. This isn't like some politician steering a few million dollars to friends, families, and political supporters, or engaging in more routine acts of political patronage. When we talk about a violation of the public trust, there are degrees of difference that matter.
The reality is that sometimes conspiracies are also true and there are "hidden power networks". Anyone who even spends a little time looking at the Epstein case — seeing how things were reported not just in one moment — but over the course of decades has to wonder. Maybe it was just an incredibly coincidental turn of history that the person who was initially involved in overseeing the case - Bill Barr — who was involved in a sleazy cover-up involving Iran-Contra, also happened to have a father who helped Epstein get his first job at the Dalton School forty years earlier (at a time when Epstein only had a high school degree). These are documented facts.
Epstein's association with Robert Maxwell's daughter -- another person with close ties to intelligence agencies — is another one of those "coincidences" that just seems way too rich to be a historical accident.
Do rich and powerful people engage in egregious misbehavior and then use their social networks to protect themselves? Is that a "conspiracy" or is it just a fact? In this particular instance, why were rich and powerful people around Epstein willing to put their names and reputations on the line to ensure that Epstein received incredibly lenient treatment? e.g. actions that the DOJ even flagged in its review of the Epstein case in 2020.
The child abuse aspects of this case are not in dispute either. Why did this one person receive such an absurd level of protection and such lenient treatment? Let's begin with that fact. Why were so many people involved in that lenient treatment rewarded with future political advancement, rather than having their careers absolutely destroyed, as would be the case in any other normal professional sphere?
It is pretty obvious why this case hits close to home for Trump. Bondi was Attorney General in Florida at a time when Epstein's activities were open and notorious, and she did nothing. In Trump's first up term, he rewarded Alex Acosta with a cabinet position (Acosta was involved in the initial prosecution of Epstein when he was a U.S. Attorney and provided an agreement with incredibly favorable release terms for Epstein that was largely seen as a farce).
Only a fool would believe that Trump has any interest in "protecting the innocent". The same is true with other politicians who maintained a close relationship with Epstein through the years. I'm sure there are Trump supporters who will try to rationalize what is going on. But I suspect this is one of those cases where there are going to be many who start to see Trump with clearer eyes going forward. Trump has always been sleazy, which is one reason he was able to maintain a close relationship for years with Epstein. He and Bill Clinton probably maintained the same close relationship for years for the same reasons. Even if they didn't actively engage in the kind of abuse Epstein was involved in, they were almost certainly aware of what was going on. Trump even alluded to it as well in previous comments about how Epstein "liked them young”.
"It's funny how our resident lefties cling to suspicions based solely on their perceptions of a political enemy "
Yes. Since Trump is a Bad Person, he must be guilty of all Bad Things. Isn't that how things work?
"Everyone knows that there is any evidence whatsoever in the Epstein files that showed Trump had anything to do with underage kids Joe Biden would’ve released it immediately."
That is, of course, the Big Red Herring in all of this.
We know for a fact that the FBI has videotapes of Epstein and his buddies raping underage girls in Epstein's many houses and of course his private island. Thousands of video tapes, according to Pam Bondi.
Trump is not allowing any of these pedophiles to be prosecuted.
The question isn't whether Trump himself is implicated ... nobody thinks that because of course Biden would have released any info along those lines.
But that's a side quest.
We don't want lists.
We want ARRESTS of the pedophiles we know exist, including Bill Clinton if he's on tape. Including Republicans if they're on tape.
Trump isn't bringing these people to justice and this is marring his otherwise great Presidency.
I know releasing Grand Jury Testimony is off limits - but in this case, it is too bad.
it would be the cleanest information.
As we know - the mob-left will tinker.
Kak - you are the fool.... the tool,
kak said: "Only a fool would believe that Trump has any interest in "protecting the innocent"
What bullshit,. This from the Party of Biden, Kamala, Prtizker, Soros, Pelosi, Schitt, Hillary. A party that opened up the door to mass child sex trafficking.
FormerLawClerk said...
"Everyone knows that there is any evidence whatsoever in the Epstein files that showed Trump had anything to do with underage kids Joe Biden would’ve released it immediately."
That is, of course, the Big Red Herring in all of this.
We know for a fact that the FBI has videotapes of Epstein and his buddies raping underage girls in Epstein's many houses and of course his private island. Thousands of video tapes, according to Pam Bondi.
Trump is not allowing any of these pedophiles to be prosecuted.
I am quite sure that the Biden FBI deleted everything incriminating or hid it somewhere where the Trump FBI can't find it.
I am also quite sure a lot of money changed hands in this cleansing of the files.
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet - a lot.
Leftwing "fact" checkers say - Not True!
Kakistocracy said...
Apparently Trump’s personal attorney Todd Blanche forgot a jury of her peers heard evidence that Maxwell abused children and convicted her.
Convicted sex trafficker who taught young girls how to blow old men says sole person on earth who can pardon her did nothing wrong.
This is laughable coming from Maxwell.
The sex trafficker and perjurer exonerated the one man who can free her. I am totally persuaded.
It is quite valid to not trust Maxwell.
But you still can't deal with the fact that if there was anything in the files that Biden would have released it.
Biden didn't release it.
That means there is nothing there.
gadfly said...
Kakis hit the nail on its head. Nothing left to say.
You are just really stupid if you think your statement is true.
Nobody makes lists of people they know and saves them in their "files." That's a movie or TV series trope. It doesn't occur in real life. Have you ever made a list of people, for any reason, and carefully saved it for years? Yah, NOBODY actually does that. Forget this nonsense.
Achilles: “ I am quite sure that the Biden FBI deleted everything incriminating or hid it somewhere where the Trump FBI can't find it.”
Really? Don’t you think by now whistleblowers from both sides of the aisle would have leaked this?
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"We know for a fact that the FBI has videotapes of Epstein and his buddies raping underage girls in Epstein's many houses and of course his private island. Thousands of video tapes, according to Pam Bondi."
You have repeated this claim multiple times but that isn't what Bondi said- she explicitly said this was stuff Epstein downloaded from the internet and they surely know this because it is material the FBI has come across in other cases of child-porn rings. She has never once said the videos showed Epstein or his acquaintances engaging in these sexual acts. At least get this point correct in your comments, FLC.
Depose Clinton's S.S. detail under oath subrosa. Ask the right questions, just two, and Maxwell's testimony can be confirmed or discredited.
Once again, the Times offers five separate bylines for an extremely short article, and most of it is just text selected from someone else's interview. This time it's a handful of their most senior writers. Why would they do this? Does one person insert an opinion sentence, then the next sentence is another writer's opinion sentence, and so on? It's like watching the movie Rashomon, only everyone completely agrees on all the details and you never know who is doing the talking. This is why I can't stand to listen to Times podcasts either. Everyone pretends to have a slightly different perspective, but they are jabbering in complete unity. This behavior is a lot like an organizing tactic used by radical leftists to ensure that all participants are led into the fold and completely engulfed by the same beliefs and same emotions. They actually train leaders to get people worked up using repetitious chants and finger-snapping and constant engagement. I could easily see the Times' newsroom descend into that sort of collective action and finger-snapping.
The one and only chance she will ever have to be pardoned or have her sentence commuted is to say exactly what Trump and his administration want her to say.
“It is quite valid to not trust Maxwell.“
The issue isn’t that Maxwell lied throughout her entire proffer. She has been lying, deceiving and manipulating people her entire life. I expect it from her.
The issue is that the US Department of Justice gave her very tangible benefits already for those lies with more to come.
Maxwell says she is innocent.
Maxwell says Trump is innocent.
Maxwell says the victims are liars.
That is what you have to believe to accept her as credible. All of it.
One thing that didn't ring true to me was that Maxwell said she has no trust fund and received no money from her Dad's estate. She also said Epstein paid her $50k per year in the 90s to be the general manager of his properties. She also could use his plane.
But how did she afford her lifestyle with NY rent and fancy clothes?
And how is she paying her lawyers now?
Was there any in-depth coverage of Maxwell's trial? Another failure by the Fake News.
LOL, Lonejustice. Maxwell's best chance at getting out of jail was to implicate Trump 3 years ago. That you don't realize this just shows how retarded you are.
She's compromised, ann.
You're looking for a nugget of truth in a pile of steaming shit. Don't look there...
Kak (or some AI bot, a distinction without a difference) provides 628 words that don't address the point. SOP from this dork, I know, but the straw man argument isn't regarding whatever you believe about your bete noire, dumbass. The strawman argument is asserting what MAGA says. You remain a piñata filled with methane.
“Maxwell praised Trump and distanced him from Epstein." LOL. This script writes itself. There is NO way Maxwell would say anything bad about Trump while he is in office and has the power to pardon her - which he may likely do at some point. Though probably not before the midterms.
And I think, even today, Maxwell's best chance at getting out of jail is to implicate Trump. Her way out of prison is get the media on her side, something she didn't do with this interview.
Nobody makes lists of people they know and saves them in their "files." That's a movie or TV series trope. It doesn't occur in real life. Have you ever made a list of people, for any reason, and carefully saved it for years?
You've never heard of Christmas card lists? And if your security clearance requires you to update your SF-86 form every so many years then it's very beneficial to have a list like that on hand.
Why isn’t Comer putting Acosta under oath and interviewing him? Another question— what’s in the documents that they haven’t produced?
john mosby said...
Achilles: “ I am quite sure that the Biden FBI deleted everything incriminating or hid it somewhere where the Trump FBI can't find it.”
Really? Don’t you think by now whistleblowers from both sides of the aisle would have leaked this?
I think they knew who to take to the island when they cleaned it out. You can still keep secrets particularly when there are many billionaires involved.
I am assuming that there are a lot of "accidents" and arkancides that happened.
Kakistocracy said...
Why isn’t Comer putting Acosta under oath and interviewing him? Another question— what’s in the documents that they haven’t produced?
There will be nothing.
Biden would have released it if it implicated Trump and he would have destroyed it if it implicated anyone else.
Monica Lewinski had just turned 22 when 49 year old Bill Clinton raped her.
Only four years and a couple of months from being considered a minor child.
Common sense says there is no doubt whatsoever that Biden's handlers, in collusion with the Clinton's powerful friends, destroyed tapes of Bill Clinton with underaged children.
Trump will never pardon Maxwell- can you even imagine the outrage if he did? The only way she is getting a pardon is from a Democrat President and the soonest that can happen is 2029. Her best bet right now (assuming her appeal fails which likely) is to make a deal with an independent counsel to have her sentence reduced by a federal judge and there is only one plausible way for that to happen- implicate Trump.
> “When a girl turns 30 she starts
> to think about marriage and children.”
Leave out a whole decade of your best fertility as an adult? What a recipe for success!
This could serve as the epitaph for Western Civilization
The DOJ says there were over 1000 victims. What sort of person thinks Epstein was such a stud that he alone sexually abused these young women and underage girls? There’s a list all right, maybe no longer on paper, but in someone’s brain. Maxwell was paid by Epstein for “managing his properties” and was his good friend, yet she never saw any untoward or inappropriate conduct by any powerful people? How is it possible that adults here are so willing to suspend disbelief that Maxwell isn’t lying about almost everything?
I believe Maxwell knows full well that her life is in danger if she says one wrong thing that could implicate any powerful men in Epstein’s blackmailing schemes.
I see people on the left not willing to say Clinton wasn’t involved. Why is it that people on the right are still so adamant about Trump being innocent of sexual abuse? Have people on the right totally whitewashed their brains of Trump’s public history?
It’s not really surprising to see how Trump’s cult has bent their brains into pretzels to maintain their delusions about Trump. It must’ve been not too difficult for the cultists to forget all the comments Trump made over the years about underage girls, even his own daughter.
Uh oh, just read and listened.
She said she never WITNESSED bad behavior from Trump.
That obviously in not PROOF that it didn't happen.
Keep hope alive, we got him this time, for sure.
"All the Federales say
They could have had him any day
They only let him slip away
Out of kindness, I suppose."
FullMoon:
Point of order - - surely 18 was the age of majority in DC at the time Clinton encountered Lewinsky.
And not to defend Billy Jeff, but what's with the word "rape"? Other women have alleged non-consensual sexual contact, but wasn't Lewinsky fully on board with what they were doing?
“Why isn’t Comer putting Acosta under oath and interviewing him? Another question— what’s in the documents that they haven’t produced?”
I’ve always wondered why Trump nominated Acosta as Labor Secretary. Trump was aware of the sweetheart deal that Acosta gave Epstein in Florida. One might think that Trump approved of such a deal and the nomination was a nice thank you.
Unfortunately for Trump and Acosta this happened…
Acosta's resignation
Acosta resigned in July 2019 amid public criticism over his handling of a 2008 plea deal for financier Jeffrey Epstein while Acosta was a U.S. Attorney in Florida.
Google AI
“Trump will never pardon Maxwell- can you even imagine the outrage if he did?”
This from the same guy who said back at the beginning of Covid that no more than 40,000 would end up dying of Covid. Yes YancyBoy, you’re a real good and reliable prognosticator.
My Never Trumper friends and no doubt Adam Schiff insist that releasing all the Epstein documents will prove that Trump did something or other. They can't say what it is, but they "know" it's bad! Of course they also insist that the sky will fall if Trump stays in office.
"which he may likely do at some point."
He said without evidence.
Apparently Trump is guilty until proven innocent, just like Joe Biden was innocent even when caught on video in public squeezing the nipple of a twelve year old girl, even as tons of videos showing Biden being inappropriate with young girls kept appearing.
It's always projection with these people, always. The Bidens spread the stink of pedophilia all over Washington, some of the stuff on video on the laptop should have landed Hunter in prison for the rest of his life and caused his father to disown him, and that stink is there, Joe Biden took "inappropriate showers" with his own daughter, by her own claim, and that stink has to be pinned on someone besides the Democrats.
And I was wrong, Inga, and fully admitted I was wrong. But I was also right that the fatality rate was well under 1% when everyone like you claimed tens of millions of Americans would die if the country reopened for business in May of 2020. As for Epstein, what evidence do you have that Trump was involved in any illegal activities with him? I mean, evidence that isn't in your imagination?
This from the same guy who said back at the beginning of Covid that no more than 40,000 would end up dying of Covid.
In Yancey’s defense none of us Normies could imagine governors like Walz, Whitmer, and Cuomo — all Democrrats — deliberately put COVID patients into elderly nursing homes to run up the death toll on Trump’s administration. We knew that Democrats were (and are) loathsome, but we assumed there was some limit on how low you could go.
Hey, Inga, tell us about how you called the Mueller infestigation!
"No one knows what Mueller knows!" - Inga
Turns out that what Mueller knew, or should have known since the FBI and CIA knew it, was that the whole thing was made up by Hillary's lawyers, and she falsely claimed the expense for making up these lies as "legal expenses" even.
"Why is it that people on the right are still so adamant about Trump being innocent of sexual abuse? "
A little actual, you know, evidence, would be a nice start. We have one accusation which provided no actual evidence, from a woman who once said "rape is sexy," and who made millions from the accusation in a court system that she knew was stacked in her favor by juries full of Ingas.
Here’s what was not released:
The proffer agreement between Maxwell and Trump’s Department of Justice.
The agreement transferring Maxwell to a minimum security prison.
The paper trail showing who waived Maxwell’s sex offender status allowing her transfer and possible work assignments outside prison.
The Epstein files.
You won't get an apology out of Inga for her Russia Russia Russia / Trump was installed by Russia - fantasies.
Even though all roads to Russian money pocketing flow to The Clintons and their "foundation". A foundation that pays for the Clinton's lavish lifestyle.
’fly stands with kak-ah… film at 11pm
Imagine that Joe Biden, whose administration tried to imprison Trump in so many ways was sitting on the evidence that could have ended Trump's career all along. What a world! What a world!
"Iowa! Iowa! Iowa!"
(I imagine it as a fighter pilot augering in.)
Inga said...
It’s not really surprising to see how Trump’s cult has bent their brains into pretzels to maintain their delusions about Trump.
It is not really surprising to see Inga is so fucking stupid she believes Biden would sit on evidence Trump raped underage girls.
Big Mike said...
This from the same guy who said back at the beginning of Covid that no more than 40,000 would end up dying of Covid.
In Yancey’s defense none of us Normies could imagine governors like Walz, Whitmer, and Cuomo — all Democrrats — deliberately put COVID patients into elderly nursing homes to run up the death toll on Trump’s administration. We knew that Democrats were (and are) loathsome, but we assumed there was some limit on how low you could go.
8/23/25, 12:11 PM
I don’t know if “Normies” is a tribe name or what but it is indeed phenomenal of what you guys can imagine.
Speaking of unimaginable yet actually confirmed lows, wasn’t it leaked that the Trump administration wanted to withhold funds and resources from blue states in order to blame those death spikes on Democratic governors and mayors? Isn’t that along the lines of genocide or, a crime against humanity?
I heartily agree with Achilles. There's no better description of Inga than fucking stupid. She thinks evidence of wrongdoing, e.g. the data on Hunter Biden's MacBook Pro, is no evidence at all, and no evidence of wrongdoing is conclusive evidence.
Show us that I'm wrong, I dare you.
I know I commented about this yesterday in another thread but the truth is I don't give a crap about any of this Epstein BS. Time to move on.
My takeaway: She is really good at this.
" wasn’t it leaked that the Trump administration wanted to withhold funds"
I don't know, give us the link. As far as I can tell what you have here is the repeat of a smear whose only support is insinuation. Give us the exact wording of the policy, and why it was rejected.
Given how evil you guys are convinced that Trump is, it seems like there should be evidence everywhere of it. Yet all we seem to get is insinuation, and demands that he prove innocence against vague charges that are only based on suppositions spread by his political opponents. Surely a man that evil must have left some evidence somewhere.
The lack of new incriminating information, combined with Maxwell’s denials and selective memory, suggests the interview was more about managing public perception than uncovering significant new facts. Maxwell’s motives and the DOJ’s handling of the Epstein case are fairly obvious.
I’m guessing everybody will get their wish in the days
right before the 2026 or 2028 elections. Too late for the Democrats to pull their Resign, Memory-Hole, and Switch schtick.
This Administration is so much more politically astute than any previous Republican administration/campaign. They know the media, social media, and the Donk narrative machine, and they know you don’t deploy your weapons to no purpose.
Why did Todd Blanch rush to interview Maxwell before she could testify in front of Congress under oath and in public? No Trump supporters thought that strange? Now IF ever is made to testify in front of Congress and she lies to Congress what happens?
Google AI…
Deputy Attorney General (DAG) Todd Blanche quickly interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell in July 2025 in an effort by the Trump administration to get ahead of her scheduled congressional testimony and quell public criticism over its handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Following weeks of public pressure for more information on the Epstein investigation, the DOJ released a transcript of the interview the day before it was scheduled to send its files to Congress.
Controversial aspects of the interview
Blanche's past ties to Trump: As Trump's former personal lawyer, Blanche's unusual decision to conduct the interview as the nation's second-highest law enforcement official sparked criticism from opponents and some ethics experts.
Limited immunity: The DOJ gave Maxwell limited immunity for the interview, meaning her statements could not be used against her, but she could still be prosecuted for lying.
Maxwell's credibility: Prosecutors had long described Maxwell as a "serial liar" and had previously charged her with perjury. Her credibility was further questioned during the interview when she made statements that contradicted earlier evidence.
Timing of release: The release of the interview transcript on the same day the DOJ sent the first batch of Epstein files to Congress suggests the administration wanted to influence the public narrative before Congress could publicly review the documents.”
The biden's pocketed Money from Ukrainian energy company Burisma. (US Tax payer washed clean money) Prove me wrong.
In Trump's younger years - (he was not a politician!) he liked to be around beautiful women - Married a few... had a bunch of children who all adore him. Never showered with any of them. (*ahem)
There is zero evidence he liked under-age girls. Trump is not on the flight logs like Bill is.
Again - If Biden and his handlers had the goods on Trump here - they would have acted. Is there any doubt?
Also – the left prove they are not trust-worthy. They plant stuff… engage in treacherous deviant behavior ala Hillary/Schitt. Zero credibility.
Also -we all recall that during Trump's first term in 2016, the deep state was still well entrenched.
"Maxwell’s motives and the DOJ’s handling of the Epstein case are fairly obvious."
This is "evidence" of Trump's perfidy. The proof that he is guilty is that he got elected president, and was therefore in a position to pardon her. This is all the proof that anybody should need that Trump is a criminal pedophile who lives in fear of evidence—that Joe Biden sat on for four years—might come out.
And if you need more proof, they are happy to repeat the same baseless smears for you again. That's how it works, repetition is the hammer, and projection is the screwdriver.
Whether you think of Mr. Trump as saint or sinner is beside the point. Maxwell is a convicted perjurer and manipulator, and as far as testimony goes she’s a non-entity. Ann was right about the story. I think Maxwell is a waste of time.
You just know that if Maxwell had implicated Trump in any wrongdoing, she would be the fount of credibility. It’s always “heads we win, tails you lose” with the TDS-afflicted.
It’s notable that even Gavin Newsom has been baited into joining the baying. When the time comes to release the information, it will be easy for the Administration to disavow any hatchet jobbing. Hey, the Democrats insisted….
Inga- strange how you never cared about any of this before.
Now you are certain Trump is guilty of something.
Shocked.
Maxwell is a liar! so? She is also in jail. and???
“I think Maxwell is a waste of time.”
Apparently so. Time to get the victims to volunteer to testify in front of Congress and name names.
"in an effort by the Trump administration to get ahead of her scheduled congressional testimony and quell public criticism over its handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. "
Google AI can see Trump's motives! There could not be any other motive? For instance having to do with the fact that her father was an Israeli spy chief? Of course not! What Google is doing is regurgitating all of the smears against Trump that appeared in the Trump hating press, but now it's given an air of truthiness by coming out of AI.
It's hard to tell if what she says is true or not. She has a tremendous inscentive not to incriminate any rich or powerful people.
"It's hard to tell if what she says is true or not. She has a tremendous incentive not to incriminate any rich or powerful people."
Well, since we can infer that Trump is guilty no matter what she says on the matter, her testimony is highly valuable. In a truth table, her evidence goes under "don't care" in the it has no value in determining the truth. She can't exonerate Trump due to her lack of credibility, and that is enough evidence right there to prove that Trump is guilty. Q.E.D.
You guys must have aced Philosophy 115.
AI overview: “A moral panic is a widespread, intense, and often irrational fear that a particular person, group, or phenomenon poses a significant threat to the community's values, safety, and well-being. It involves mass hysteria that is usually amplified by sensational media coverage, fueling public anxiety and leading to calls for action from authorities.”
LOL - Inag has this all Maddow-mapped out. The problem is - in order to snag Trump - there are larger snags that have D's after their names.
Google owns youtube - and regularly - Youtube-Google removes content on youtube that is embarrassing to Democrats.
"On this episode of Get Trump..."
I will summarize below that actual known facts that Trump practiced pedophilia in Epstein's operations:
(1) Trump knew Epstein and was photographed with Epstein in public on a few occasions.
That's it- that is all the factual evidence Inga and Kakabich have. The rest of it hypothetical evidence that the DoJ has that Trump has somehow, someway hidden for the last 6 years even when Merrick Garland ran the DoJ.
There are possibly pictures of me with Epstein out there somewhere- I attended 5 events in NYC (all charity black-tie events that a former lady friend of mine helped organize in which I was her escort) from 2002-2006. Those events had dozens or wealthy New Yorkers every single time. I don't remember seeing Jeffrey Epstein there but the truth is that I didn't even know who he was at that time. If a photograph of me shows up with Epstein, then I must have been a client, right, Inga?
Of course, given Inga and Kakabich's logic system I have motive to deny knowing Jeffrey Epstein during those events, right? So I must be guilty.
Ok, a comment of mine was swallowed by Google that precedes the 2:09 comment that is necessary to understand the second one.
All she has to do is incriminate anti Trump judges and d.a.s and Biden's and Clintons and Newsome
Then Trump will pardon her
What is truly hilarious about this is that the libels being perpetrated here is one of the reasons that Epstein's contact lists aren't being released- those people who were perfectly innocent would have had their names and reputations dragged through the sewer by people just like Inga and Kakabich. It would be completely unethical to release such information precisely because of the behaviors of the Ingas of the world.
“This is "evidence" of Trump's perfidy.”
Donald Trump was friends with Jeffrey Epstein for 15 years. Trump acknowledged Epstein's preference for young women, stating that he "liked them young." One might question why someone with knowledge of such behavior would maintain a decades-long friendship with a known pedophile.
Kak-a-poodle.
Many people were pals with Epstein. and? Are you going to skip past Bill Clinton?
Bill Clinton invoted Epstein to the White House.
Funny how Maxwell called him, "Mr. Epstein." Should have been Jeffery Epstein or Mr. Jeffery Epstein.
Trump said that Epstein "liked them young" and Kakistocracy claims that makes him guilty of "friendship with a known pedophile". This is deeply dishonest. A middle-aged man who dates 20-somethings or even 18- and 19-year-olds certainly "likes them young" and is definitely guilty of poor taste and morally questionable behavior, but that is not in fact pedophilia, and not illegal. Many people remained friends with Epstein even after it was clear that he was a pedophile and therefore a criminal. Trump was not one of them.
the New York Times celebrated Epstein's efforts even after his conviction, as did a horde of media and other figures, some in high level posts like future CIA director William Burns, then a mere asst secretary of state,
how about the esteemed and honorable Yehud Barak, (ht is none of these) another fool who indulged the Oslo fallacy, and coordinates the color revolution against Israel
I don't believe Maxwell, either. But if the Trump Admin did NOT release her testimony, all the nutcase libs would claim that was "evidence of Trump's perfidy." Releasing them becomes "evidence" of lies about Trump to convince Trump to pardon her. Since it's clear that the nutcases will attack Trump no matter what he does or says, I'd like to see him tell them to fuck right off and then ignore them. I'm just sick and tired of all these rabid left-wing jackasses.
Maxwell is pretty smart. No reason to suicide her now. She’s destroyed her value as a witness to both sides. Now all her hopes rely on the gratefulness of powerful strangers to release her early. Then she can dig up her “files” and she’s back in business, baby.
"Jaq said...
Hey, Inga, tell us about how you called the Mueller infestigation!
"No one knows what Mueller knows!" - Inga"
Other favorite is
"Maybe I can't prove Trump colluded with Russia, but you can't prove he didn't" Inga.
,
"Other favorite is
"Maybe I can't prove Trump colluded with Russia, but you can't prove he didn't" Inga."
Awesome.
I know that by now some believe it goes without saying, but I must insist that it bears repeating: kak is wack.
The left in a nutshell.
"Maybe I can't prove Trump colluded with Russia, but you can't prove he didn't"
-Inga.
he floats so he clearly he's a warlock,
Leo DiCaprio likes them young but he is no pedo. Being a solid Leftist inoculates him from the charge.
The classic true story about old guys with young women -
When Hugh Hefner asked 18-year-old Barbi Benton out on a date:
Benton: “I’ve never dated anyone over 24.”
Hefner: “That’s all right, neither have I.”
Whoa. Ghislaine Maxwell’s fortune is estimated at 5 to 50 million dollars. The chick is loaded.
Sweet, she’s serving time in a minimum facility in Florida. Get a dog Ghislaine (in case she encounters a croc of the nonplastic variety - although useful against the plastic variety as well)
We’ll be able to estimate how much money she really has by how long it takes her to get out of jail. I’m betting out in 5 years.
well they raised hackles, because some considered she might raise pets that was an earlier thread
O yeah, they wouldn’t let her have a dog because she’s a sex offender. That was before she proved herself worthy of continued life.
On, no! Looks like the the loonies are correct, Maxwell is a liar.
She shot down claims that former President Bill Clinton had traveled to Epstein's infamous island in the U.S. Virgin Islands and said the Clintons were her friends, not Epstein's.
Am curious how she became friends with the Clintons.
Obviously lying about Clinton in order to save her life.
“ I don't value spending my time on this.”
Me too. Although, with 127 comments on this so far, we seem to be in a minority.
But, but, but Trump said Bill Clinton went to Epstein Island 28 times!
Well, chin up Trumpies, if Maxwell will lie about Clinton, she will lie about Trump too, lol.
“Am curious how she became friends with the Clintons.”
The Clintons can smell money from a continent away.
Google AI…
“According to a transcript of Ghislaine Maxwell's July 2025 interview with the Department of Justice, Maxwell claimed to be a friend of former President Bill Clinton, not Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell told investigators that Clinton "liked" her and that she helped their relationship. She even suggested Epstein's private plane for Clinton's philanthropic trips in the early 2000s.
Key aspects of the relationship, as described by Maxwell, include:
A "humanitarian side": Clinton's trips on Epstein's jet had a "humanitarian side," according to Maxwell, and she felt honored to be part of the work. Clinton's office previously stated he traveled with his charitable foundation staff and Secret Service agents.
Leveraged connections for charity: After Clinton left the White House in 2001, Maxwell spent time with him as he developed the Clinton Foundation and Clinton Global Initiative. Maxwell claimed to be "very central" in starting the CGI, helping Clinton by using connections from her travels.
Epstein was the "rich guy with the plane": Maxwell described Bill Clinton as seeing Epstein only as "a rich guy with the plane" and that she never saw any "warmth" between them.
Chelsea Clinton's wedding: Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010 with her then-boyfriend, computer entrepreneur Ted Waitt. Waitt was described as "very close" with Bill Clinton.
Family connections: Maxwell was a social acquaintance of the Clintons, visiting them "a few times" at their house in Chappaqua. Some sources suggest Maxwell became close with the family because she and Chelsea became close. However, a Clinton spokesperson disputed this.”
Per Inga’s research - did I nail it. No research involved.
Guys, guys…I know this involves tapes of underage girls. But if you don’t stop doing that, you’ll go blind.
My favorite story about Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s dad:
Some reporter came to see him. Upon hearing the reporter was newly married, Maxwell said:
“Do it the way I did it. 9 children, one wife”
Maxwell friend with Clinton. Maxwells father Israeli spy. Coincidence?
"Maxwell was a social acquaintance of the Clintons, visiting them "a few times" at their house in Chappaqua."
Did she bring young girls? She's lying to save her life if she says no.
"Other favorite is
"Maybe I can't prove Trump colluded with Russia, but you can't prove he didn't" Inga."
Well, she's an idiot, so...
“Supporters of President Donald Trump have cheered the comments made by Jeffery Epstein's imprisoned former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell in interviews with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche.
They shared sections from Maxwell's testimony where she says she never saw Trump engaged in any form of sexual behavior on social media after transcripts of the interviews were released by the Department of Justice on Friday.”
She also said Clinton was never on Epstein Island, despite Trump saying Clinton was there 28 times.
You people are idiots for believing anything Maxwell had to say.
Quote from Newsweek.
Maxwell spent days meeting with Trump's personal attorney Todd Blanche and didn’t implicate anyone, yet she was still transferred to a minimum-security prison. So, what exactly was she rewarded for? It seems obvious she was rewarded for “exonerating” Trump. You’d think they’d at least feel compelled to provide a more legitimate-sounding explanation for her preferential treatment.
Inga says:
She also said Clinton was never on Epstein Island, despite Trump saying Clinton was there 28 times.
"You people are idiots for believing anything Maxwell had to say."
So, you acknowledge she is lying about Clinton not visiting.
It's about time. Congratulations.
"So, you acknowledge she is lying about Clinton not visiting."
Well, she believes *that*.
“So, you acknowledge she is lying about Clinton not visiting.
It's about time. Congratulations.”
Since I never said Clinton was not involved with Epstein and Maxwell, I have no need to “acknowledge” anything.
You dummies on the other hand were ready and eager to believe her when you heard that she didn’t implicate Trump and were disappointed when you heard what she had to say about Bill Clinton.
As I said a few minutes ago…
You people are idiots for believing anything Maxwell had to say.
I read the entire transcript this afternoon- I don't think she is lying in any answer she gave that directly addressed the questions asked. There are answers where I think she feigned ignorance in order to minimize her culpability but those answers don't open her up to perjury charges. For example, I believe her description of the relationship she and Epstein had with Bill Clinton, however, I was also never a believer that Clinton was having sex with young ladies employed by Epstein and Maxwell and Maxwell's testimony here is just confirming what I already believed.
Let me ask you this, Inga, had Maxwell said that Trump was a client for sex would you be believe that? Or would you honestly stick with skepticism?
Was it Epstein, or was it Maxwell who introduced 20 year old Monica to 49 year old Bill?
“Let me ask you this, Inga, had Maxwell said that Trump was a client for sex would you be believe that? Or would you honestly stick with skepticism?”
I’ve said all along that she has every reason to lie. That she was “interviewed” by Todd Blanche so quickly before she even was made to testify in front of Congress is suspicious as hell.
"I’ve said all along that she has every reason to lie."
Arkancide Avoidance.
I think she should win her case on appeal.
"Eva Marie said...
I think she should win her case on appeal."
If that happens, it will generate a 300 comment thread lasting an entire day and night. Maybe even 2
“I think she should win her case on appeal.”
Google AI…
“Trump administration's Justice Department has formally opposed Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal request to the Supreme Court.
Here is a more detailed breakdown of the situation:
The Appeal: In July 2025, Maxwell's legal team asked the Supreme Court to review her case, arguing that she was unlawfully prosecuted. She claims that a 2007 non-prosecution agreement that federal prosecutors in Florida gave to Jeffrey Epstein should have also shielded her.
The DOJ's Opposition: In July 2025, the Justice Department, under President Trump, filed a brief urging the Supreme Court to reject Maxwell's petition. The department argued that Maxwell was not a party to Epstein's deal, which only involved him and Florida prosecutors.
A "Circuit Split": Maxwell's lawyers have pointed to a "circuit split," or a division among federal appeals courts on whether such non-prosecution agreements are nationally binding. They argue her case is a suitable vehicle to resolve this conflict.
Supreme Court Timeline: The Supreme Court is expected to consider her petition during its "long conference" in late September 2025. The court's justices will determine if they will hear her appeal.
Maxwell's Interviews: The Trump administration's DOJ released transcripts of interviews with Maxwell on August 22, 2025. In the interviews, conducted with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, Maxwell maintained her innocence. The DOJ's opposition to her appeal comes despite the administration conducting these interviews.
Contradiction to Trump: In her interviews, Maxwell also contradicted a claim by President Trump that former President Bill Clinton had visited Epstein's private island.”
It seems to be common knowledge that the Epstein properties were riddled with extensive and sophisticated networks of surveillance equipment, giving them the capability of taping virtually everywhere on these properties, including in the bedrooms.
After Epstein's arrest, the FBI swooped in and confiscated computers and boxes upon boxes of recorded data. This is known - it was observed and reported at the time, back when the press still had notions of professionalism rattling around in their heads.
It would seem that both sides pretty much view Ghislane Maxwell as eminently untrustworthy, with good reason. She has not been convicted of perjury, but has been charged - and these charges will apparently be dropped if she accepts her conviction. Saying she's a perjurer is a lie, then. I don't know why they want to question her, I can't even hazard a guess. These kinds of interviews are usually about wanting direction on where to start looking.
Now we have some saying they are skeptical and highly suspicious of the timing of her questioning. They think the Justice Department having interviews with convicted criminals to continue pursuing a case is highly suspicious ! That's just addle-pated. If you're not familiar with the investigation, with what issues they are getting to the bottom of, then making pronouncements from a position of guaranteed ignorance is.... well... pretty stupid at this stage.
There are those that would cut off their arm if it meant denying Trump an even break and a hand up, even as the evidence is mounting how terribly he's been undercut by the political class - looking at you Hillary, and Obama, and the minions supporting those cynical efforts. Cut away, fools. Cut away.
“Now we have some saying they are skeptical and highly suspicious of the timing of her questioning. They think the Justice Department having interviews with convicted criminals to continue pursuing a case is highly suspicious !”
What makes you think that the DOJ is looking to “continue” pursuing a case against Maxwell? The DOJ has formally opposed Maxwell’s appeal to the Supreme Court. I bet the last thing Trump’s administration wants is to have the her case go back to court. You know testifying under oath, that sort of thing…
Google AI…
“Trump administration's Justice Department has formally opposed Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal request to the Supreme Court.”
Under Democratic law, no discrimination for sexual orientation (e g. pedophilia)? #NoJudgment #NoLabels #LoveWins #AllsFairInLustAbortion
Achilles wrote: "But you still can't deal with the fact that if there was anything in the files that Biden would have released it."
If the Biden administration should have released the whole thing why shouldn't the Trump administration do the same?
Epstein trafficked teenage girls
Trump ran a beauty pageant for teenage girls
If you think that was a coincidence you're a fool.
“If the Biden administration should have released the whole thing why shouldn't the Trump administration do the same?“
No, that’s not what he said. He said if there was anything bad about Trump, Biden would have released that portion.
"...What makes you think that the DOJ is looking to “continue” pursuing a case against Maxwell? The DOJ has formally opposed Maxwell’s appeal to the Supreme Court. ....."
Because the DOJ is having structured interrogations with her, you dummy ! Of course they're opposed to an appeal, when they're the prosecution in this case. They'll be fighting it in court, not so? Honestly Inga, a few days ago you labeled Maxwell as a 'perjurer', which is wrong, because she's been charged, not tried, not convicted. And now here you are, saying Trump is somehow terrified because 'the perjurer' might be placed under oath again. You'll say anything, believe anything, as long as it feeds a complete, slobbering derangement. Get some help - you're a basket case.
As I thought, Inga, you think she lied because she didn't confirm what you think is the truth- a belief I again point out for which you have zero evidence beyond the two men knew each other- did every person Epstein know commit crimes, Inga? That is fucking hilarious- you are the true poster child for illogic.
Kak-a-poodle said:
"Epstein trafficked teenage girls
Trump ran a beauty pageant for teenage girls"
So all people who "run" beauty pageants are automatically guilty. Wow - what iron clad reasoning. Call in the judge.
"So all people who "run" beauty pageants are automatically guilty."
Not everybody. Just Trump.
So, Kak's position is that MAGA people's top priorities were bringing down inflation and releasing the Epstein files (I wonder what happened to illegal immigration, globalization versus the working class, and social issues such as the famous they/them anti-Harris ad that apparently tipped a lot of people over to voting for Trump) - and Trump, whom Kaka considers guilty of nefarious and immoral acts with Epstein, willingly surrounded himself, both before and since the election, with people who were loud and proud about doing just that. Why would he do that if he were guilty?
Why wouldn't Biden's handlers have leaked whatever was in those files about Trump in 2024, for maximum election year impact, if there were anything nefarious or immoral about Trump in there?
Why wouldn't Maxwell have cut a deal with the pardon-o-matic Biden administration, if she knew anything Trump had done that was nefarious or immoral?
And finally... we get to the Big Question: since proving innocence is impossible for anyone who ever crossed paths with Epstein, much less someone who was initially friendly with him (right up until the time Epstein made improper advances to a young girl at Mar-a-Lago, at which point he was instantly and forevermore persona non grata at all Trump properties, which is a hell of a lot more action against him than from, say, the Clintons), is there anything on God's green earth that would change the minds of our lefties? Biden('s people) didn't implicate him when it would have benefited Biden (and them). Maxwell didn't implicate him when it would have benefited her. His repudiation of Epstein has been known publicly for what, almost twenty years? Everyone in every major media outlet knows she would have gotten a Pulitzer for breaking the story, if there were one.
Come on, lefties. Occam's razor.
Jamie - Don't treat Kaka like he's sincere. He's not.
“What makes you think that the DOJ is looking to “continue” pursuing a case against Maxwell?"
“Because the DOJ is having structured interrogations with her, you dummy !”
You’re the dummy Aggie…
As of late August 2025, the Justice Department has interviewed Ghislaine Maxwell, but the interviews were not to pursue new charges against her. Conducted by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, the interviews took place in July 2025 and focused on her knowledge of the late Jeffrey Epstein's associates.
Purpose: The interviews were described as an effort by the Trump administration to appear transparent regarding the Epstein case amid mounting public and congressional pressure. They were not part of a cooperation agreement to reduce Maxwell's sentence.
Google AI
Justice Dept. Sent Congress Epstein Files That Were Already Public, Democrats Say ~ NYT
Trump and his legal team are seeking additional time to suppress or destroy parts of the Epstein Files they are determined to keep hidden. If a so-called "full release" of the files ever occurs, it’s likely that significant portions will already have been destroyed.
I think it's awesome that you desperate loyalist democratics are so obsessed with this.
Again - why didn't Biden release any info that points to Trump raping babies?
btw- Trump, in his younger days - was a good looking man, a wealthy man, a charming man - and women threw themselves at him. He married women - not young girls. He was never into young girls.
You leftists are desperate and mentally ill. Also - no one with a brain trusts you or your leaders or your Soviet media hacks. . You all lie. Your pathetic corrupt leaders cheat and lie, and you all have zero credibility.
Keep hope alive.
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