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Work Requirements: Moral Judgements vs. Incentives
There are plenty of bad actors in politics, however, on balance, most don't go on vacations or develop long-term relationships with a child sex-trafficker who has been credibly involved in hundreds if not more than a thousand cases of abuse. The fact that the trafficker also had ties to at least one intelligence agency and was effectively protected for years by major political figures is another issue. This isn't like some politician steering a few million dollars to friends, families, and political supporters, or engaging in more routine acts of political patronage. When we talk about a violation of the public trust, there are degrees of difference that matter.
The reality is that sometimes conspiracies are also true and there are "hidden power networks". Anyone who even spends a little time looking at the Epstein case — seeing how things were reported not just in one moment — but over the course of decades has to wonder. Maybe it was just an incredibly coincidental turn of history that the person who was initially involved in overseeing the case -- Bill Barr — who was involved in a sleazy cover-up involving Iran-Contra, also happened to have a father who helped Epstein get his first job at the Dalton School forty years earlier (at a time when Epstein only had a high school degree). These are documented facts.
Epstein's association with Robert Maxwell's daughter -- another person with close ties to intelligence agencies — is another one of those "coincidences" that just seems way too rich to be a historical accident.
Do rich and powerful people engage in egregious misbehavior and then use their social networks to protect themselves? Is that a "conspiracy" or is it just a fact? In this particular instance, why were rich and powerful people around Epstein willing to put their names and reputations on the line to ensure that Epstein received incredibly lenient treatment? e.g. actions that the DOJ even flagged in its review of the Epstein case in 2020.
The child abuse aspects of this case are not in dispute either. Why did this one person receive such an absurd level of protection and such lenient treatment? Let's begin with that fact. Why were so many people involved in that lenient treatment rewarded with future political advancement, rather than having their careers absolutely destroyed, as would be the case in any other normal professional sphere?
It is pretty obvious why this case hits close to home for Trump. Bondi was Attorney General in Florida at a time when Epstein's activities were open and notorious, and she did nothing. In Trump's first term, he rewarded Alex Acosta with a cabinet position (Acosta was involved in the initial prosecution of Epstein when he was a U.S. Attorney and provided an agreement with incredibly favorable release terms for Epstein that was largely seen as a farce).
Only a fool would believe that Trump has any interest in "protecting the innocent". The same is true with other politicians who maintained a close relationship with Epstein through the years. I'm sure there are Trump supporters who will try to rationalize what is going on. But I suspect this is one of those cases where there are going to be many who start to see Trump with clearer eyes going forward. Trump has always been sleazy, which is one reason he was able to maintain a close relationship for years with Epstein. He and Bill Clinton probably maintained the same close relationship for years for the same reasons. Even if they didn't actively engage in the kind of abuse Epstein was involved in, they were almost certainly aware of what was going on. Trump even alluded to it as well in previous comments about how Epstein "liked them young”.
Your photos should be featured in a museum.
Donald Trump can't seem to figure out that he's the nation's top law enforcement officer. As the head of the executive branch, he is Pam Bondi's boss. So if Donald tells Pam not to release the Epstein list of billionaire pedophiles, she can't do that.
But he also keeps calling for Adam Schiff to be investigated for mortgage fraud. So apparently, he doesn't realize that he can just tell Pam Bondi to charge Schiff and have the FBI arrest him.
Trump is the nation's top cop. He shouldn't be "calling for" investigations. He should be "doing" investigations.
He's such a moron sometimes.
Dershowitz: Trump Isn't Hiding the Epstein Creeps; These Two People Are
The FBI's Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Had Nearly 3 Minutes Cut Out ~ Wired
/Metadata from the “raw” Epstein prison video shows approximately 2 minutes and 53 seconds were removed from one of two stitched-together clips. The cut starts right at the “missing minute.”/
There were over a dozen Bureau of Prison officials involved in the oversight of Epstein's case as well, and only two were discharged. I believe their supervisor was later promoted.
https://www.axios.com/2025/07/15/epstein-house-democrats-republicans-trump-doj
“House GOP blocks second Dem attempt to release Epstein files”
Stop talking about Epstein! GOP in lockstep…for now.
I can't wait to see Mamdani get elected. He is just a really stupid and utterly incompetent person.
The world needs this object lesson.
I think it's so sweet that Inga has found a reason to come back to us.
I am interested to see where the Epstein fiasco ends up. Bondi has fucked it up in every possible way and should just be fired.
Trump is learning that you can build a thousand bridges and they might call you a bridge builder. But if you suck one ...
On the other hand if he actually has an investigation of Crossfire Hurricane happening right now and shit starts happening in the near future Obama Brennan Comey Clapper Hillary Rice and such are much higher on the list than Epstein. If I had a choice I would have to choose the former group.
In another universe, the scales would now be falling from MAGA’s eyes, and Trump’s base would realize they’ve been misled for years.
Instead, Trump distracts with new DOJ investigations into Brennan and Comey over the “Russia hoax,” despite their clearance by Trump’s special counsel John Durham.
Trump is now betting on the gullibility of his MAGA base
@Achilles
Me too, I’m cashing out my crypto and investing in South Florida real estate.
Ann Selzer just came out with a poll that has Curtis Sliwa winning NYC mayoral race.
Fox News: "New details revealed about California pot farm owner's ties to Newsom"
"'Outnumbered' panelists discuss Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass introducing cash cards for migrants and a report claiming that Gov. Gavin Newsom received donations from a pot farm owner where ICE agents arrested hundreds of illegal immigrants."
Pam Bondi doesn’t do anything that Trump doesn't approve of.
Trump spent more time with Bill and Hillary than he did with Epstein. Obviously Trump is protecting Bill.
Release the files, if there are any.
Kakistocracy said...
In another universe, the scales would now be falling from MAGA’s eyes, and Trump’s base would realize they’ve been misled for years.
Instead, Trump distracts with new DOJ investigations into Brennan and Comey over the “Russia hoax,” despite their clearance by Trump’s special counsel John Durham.
Trump is now betting on the gullibility of his MAGA base
Your problem Rich is you are stupid. And part of your limitation is that you have no self awareness.
The average MAGA Trump voter has 10-20 more IQ than you. You are just too stupid to understand why Trump supporters are happy with almost everything he has done.
Long and interesting
I Called Everyone in Jeffrey Epstein’s Little Black Book
What I learned about rich people, conspiracy, “genius,” Ghislaine, stand-up comedy, and evil from 2,000 phone calls.
Leland NallyOctober 9, 2020
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"Ann Selzer just came out with a poll that has Curtis Sliwa winning NYC mayoral race."
I want to know what the NYT says. Cuz, you know, they curate their polls so only the high quality ones get reported.
The assassin who killed a state Senator in Minnesota says he did so in cahoots with Democrat Vice Presidential candidate and Minnesota governor Tim Walz as part of a plan for Walz to name himself to Amy Kobluchar's US Senate seat.
The plan was to also kill Kobluchar, who had dinner with the slain state Senator that night, the assassin says.
Amazingly, the press couldn't care less about these allegations, since they implicate the Democrat's Vice Presidential candidate.
Imagine if Adam Schiff was assassinated and the assassin fingered Donald Trump as the ring-leader? You think the press would ignore the story?
Trump fucked Melania first on Epstein's plane.
Wonder why the records haven't beem released?
Whatever,
I also can't believe that Newsome was stupid enough to defend child trafficking and child slave labor.
That is actually shocking.
"Obviously Trump is protecting Bill. Release the files, if there are any."
MAGA doesn't want files. We don't need lists. We know who's on the Epstein client lists. We know everyone who flew on his plane the Lolita Express to his island rape paradise.
MAGA wants arrests.
They can release all the lists they want and all the blacked out files they want. This ain't going away until there are perp walks of Democrat rapists.
Whatever.
After that attack on Iran, I would be vigilant looking for a 9/11 style retribution. Let's hope the people who's job it is to protect us are up to the task.
"Ann Selzer just came out with a poll that has Curtis Sliwa winning NYC mayoral race."
Ann Selzer of the Iowa poll! Isn’t Trump suing her? Hey, maybe she’ll be right about Sliwa winning NYC mayoral race.
“This ain't going away until there are perp walks of Democrat rapists.”
Republicans can do perp walk too! Maybe they can be cell mates. But realistically, Trump will continue to block any release of any kind and Trump cultists be good boys and gals and will move on to investigating the 2020 election…perpetually.
Our previous president has been documented sniffing women, getting weird with girls and has the familial nickname "Pedo Pete". No concern at all...though not even Inga would leave her grandkids alone with him.
So now DJT tells us that the evil Democrats wrote the Epstein file, hence there's no reason to look at it?
Could he possibly do anything more to make it look like he has something to hide re exposing the Epstein files?
The Leftist Russia Russia Hoax buyers are on the desperate prowl for a new Trump scandal. They will not rest!
from Full Moon's link:
"Some highlights and lowlights from my tour of Jeffrey Epstein’s little black book. Remember: An appearance in the address book is not evidence of any crime, or of complicity in any crime, or of knowledge of any crime.
Doug Band, longtime adviser to Bill Clinton: Called a number listed as his home number, which wound up being his childhood home. Spoke to his dad for five minutes. Seemed like a decent guy. “Doug hasn’t lived here for 30 years!” All right, man, take care!
Jimmy Cayne, former CEO of Bear Stearns: Wife answered the phone. When asked about Epstein and Cayne’s relationship, she said, “Yes, they were friends, but we have no comment.”"
I-nag the loyal Soviet-Democratic Cultist is desperate for a new Maddow Mueller Russia Adam Schitt scandal.
Is there a "client list"?
Looks like there is a huge phone book.
Minnesota Assassin's Confession Letter Released Following Federal Indictment
Pam Bondi doesn’t do anything that Trump doesn't approve of.
So Trump told her to get out front, run her mouth and make promises she couldn't keep? Does he also tell her to get on TV every night?
No. He delegates and lets people do the jobs they were hired for. She fucked up and now he's having to protect her.
Her actions during the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman mess should've been an automatic disqualifier.
The AG is arguably the most important appointment, and he screwed it up twice.
That needs to be corrected.
from link:
"Boelter then claimed that when he made that threat, Walz reportedly responded that Walz would "hurt my family if I didn't play ball." The accused killer claimed that after that, a meeting was set up with several people, before he wrote about how they "had some people trying to kill me," but added that he was "able to get away by God's mercy."
"I went back a short time later and shot several of them," Boelter's confession letter read. "You should note: I didn't fire a single round at any police officers, and boy, did I have plenty of opportunity."
"Ask for the report on how many weapons and how much ammunition I had with me, when cops pulled up right next to me in their vehicles," he added. "I had an AK pistol aimed right at their heads. I could have left a pile of cops dead — but I didn't shoot. You can ask them, I support law enforcement. I didn't want to see them hurt."
"But if they are hurting my wife and kids next time, I won't give them a pass," the letter continued. "If you think I am making this up, just get on the phone and tell Tim [Walz] you have a few questions for him. Then ask him if he knows me and see what he says. If he says he doesn't know me, go look at the files and you'll see that Tim Walz personally [recruited?] me to be on his Governor's Workforce board as one of the business representatives.
He also claimed that Walz was "probably" trying to destroy info, adding, "but it's public record.""
Peachy, your link isn't working for me. I get to RedState, but no info there.
It was wild that the cops showed up while Boelter was still there.
le Duodenum,
What stopped Pedpo Pete's (and admin from digging into all this Trump vulnerability? Dougie's babysitter banging episode?
Pushing Back Against the Big Medicaid Lie
Peachy, your updated link is working.
So, Tim hired this guy to kill Ds, and if this guy didn't kill Ds Tim ____ would go after his family, and this guy wants to make sure that we know D_T is not a bad guy, only ____ Walz is bad.
Nice disclosure of this document by the government. Now how about some Epstein disclosure?
FAFO...
Chicago teacher union grift finally come home to roost, now after years of extortion, CPS are now (fiscally, as well as ethically) bankrupt:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/07/11/chicago-public-schools-teacher-layoffs/
First step:
1) 30% percent tax on all government union dues collected in non right-to-work states nationwide. 20 % in all right-to-work.
2) Prosecute all teacher unions under RICO for racketeering, fraud, extortion, bribery, and corruption.
John Brennan (D) - Evil lying pile of Shit.
The run-down of his lies
BBC - known anti-Semite smear merchants and lairs:
(along with PBS news and the NYT)
BBC Admits It Failed With Gaza Documentary
The same Hamas toady plays a doctor, plays a dead guy, plays a grieving father... blah blah blah.. in Hamasian Pali-wood.
Perp walk rapists?
Let's go, but make sure they ALL walk.
Dersch along with Clinton and the rest
Peachy, so you like linking to tallies of flim flam?
Did ya know that DJT had more than thirty thousand related to just his first term?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump
THAT IS: 30,573. Does truth matter to you? Do you want the Epstein files released?
How long until the MAGA faithful start saying that it would be terrible to release the Epstein Files because those Epstein Files are all Democrat Lies? So the Epstein Files should never be released.
How long? It seems like Peachy is just about ready to make the switch in this thread. Who else is ready?
Duodenum can't digest the lack of Epstein attention during Pedo Pete's reign nor Kammy's sad campaign avoiding Dougie's 'sitter bangin'.
"What stopped Pedpo Pete's (and admin from digging into all this Trump vulnerability?"
The Ds did ignore that Biden was not sharp enough (and it wasn't new to ignore that he's long been creepy, (though he hasn't been found guilty of sexual abuse and felonies, not to mention he didn't run a bunch of businesses into the ground, and get rich by birth, and swindle normal people out of money; from contractors to Trump U folks)).
And I would agree that doing the babysitter isn't good, likewise it's not ideal for a gal to F an old, gross dude that happens to have a lot of political power. But adults do unwise stuff, like having sex with a porn star while your wife is at home with your newborn kid. That doesn't mean it is illegal. If the topless gals that made DJT shoot a load in his pants were underage, that would be a different--worse--level of bad. Wolff says he saw a picture of this. Do you wonder why DJT hasn't sued him if Wolff is lying? DJT sues folks all over the place, but he doesn't want to go after Wolff. What if that picture is in the Epstein Files? And other such stuff with DJT in the Epstein Files? If DJT sues Wolff his lawyers can probably get access to the Epstein Files. Maybe that's why DJT isn't going after Wolff.
My friend Duodenum surgically avoids the "Pedo Pete" nickname and all the weird instances of him making parents sick to their stomachs. If Wolff has the goods, why didn't team Dem(entia) release it as an October( December, January, February etc, etc) surprise?
@FullMoon Leland Nally's clumsy attempts to tie Trump to Epstein undercut his story, but that is Mother Jones for you. The rest was interesting, but Epstein wasn't. The open questions at the end were the best part.
Yes Walter, he sniffs hair, and gets to close for comfort to unfamiliar women in public, and kisses his grand daughter on the lips in public, and there is a Laptop From Hell statement that uses that nickname re him. My acknowledgment that he's creepy was meant to cover that sort of stuff. Now that I've spelled it out, did I miss anything that you feel needs to be added?
Oh, and why didn't the Ds leak the Epstein File info to hurt DJT? Because it would not be legal. The Ds hate Garland because he was such a straight shooter.
BTW, do folks here remember why DJT fired Comey?
The official reason DJT fired Comey was because Comey was too aggressive in his going after HRC.
You people are in a cult.
Duodenum doing himself in panicked defense. Glorious.
Okay Walter, so I've killed myself, according to you. Though you've had no dispute with anything I've stated. Hence, somehow, I've killed myself by proving that DJT is massively more a POS than Biden or Harris or Doug. And DJT is hiding the Epstein Files to protect himself. I sure did kill myself.
Carry on.
You certainly put me in my place...by completely avoiding my points.
Yes Walter, I did not respond to your points, as anyone could see for themselves it they look upthread.
Got it.
@Le dumbassaire
Trump is not protecting himself. The Biden DOJ and FBI held the Epstein case for 4 years. They made up sex crimes against Trump in a NYC department store to defame him, do you really think that if they had Trump on “the list” that they wouldn’t have used it, heavily redacted of course?
I believe one of two things, or both:
1). Trump doesn’t give a fig about the Dems and donors on “the list” but needs support from the Reps and donors on “the list” to advance his agenda.
2). The Epstein case is even larger than we know, and the facts are being gathered for a much larger case.
With Pedo Pete removed, a female nom in place, Dems (in charge of DOJ/Intel) avoided Trump's Epstein vulnerabilities out of kindness of their heart.
....................
Rt41R,
How does the photo Epstein had of DJT surrounded by topless young gals while DJT had a cum stain on his pants fit into your analysis? I'm referring to the picture that Epstein showed to Wolff. DJT has not sued Wolff for telling the public about this picture of a cum stain on DJT's pants with topless young Epstein provided gals around him.
Do you think this Epstein File picture should be made public?
Occam’s Razor is a bitch for le dumbassaire and Igna.
You will have to provide a believable link to such a picture, I’ve never seen or heard of it before. Again, if such a legitimate picture existed, it certainly would have been widely published by the MSM years ago, naughty bits blurred out of course. Occam’s Razor.
Please stop telling me about naughty Trump. Most of naughty Trump published by MSM has been proven to be false. You had 10 years to put it out. Occam’s Razor.
Geez, first Vance Boelter and now le Douanier. I suppose it is good to be reminded that there are crazy people out there.
le deudeu
Rt41R, DJT has provided the proof himself. DJT has not sued Wolff. And Wolff wants DJT to sue him. That way Wolff's lawyers can get access to the Epstein Files such that the public will eventually see the Epstein Files that DJT administration is hiding from the public.
The reason the Ds didn't release the Epstein Files is because the picture of cum soaked DJT with young topless gals surrounding him (and/or other such DJT related stuff in the Epstein Files) isn't legally pursuable....unless DJT lies about Wolff. Since Garland was/is a a very honest person, he prevented leaks of the Epstein Files that would harm DJT.
Do you support making the Epstein Files public, even though DJT doesn't want that to happen?
Another paid halfwit in le deudeu. The bottom of their barrel is being scraped.
Iman, do you support making the Epstein Files public? Or do you agree with DJT such that the Epstein Files should be kept secret?
"The reason the Ds didn't release the Epstein Files is because the picture of cum soaked DJT with young topless gals surrounding him (and/or other such DJT related stuff in the Epstein Files) isn't legally pursuable....unless DJT lies about Wolff. Since Garland was/is a a very honest person, he prevented leaks of the Epstein Files that would harm DJT.":
Fucking hell!
kak and le deudeu leave their steaming sickness around like angry dachshunds in a time of dysentery.
I fully support the release of all material related to Epstein, facts are facts, but if indictments and prosecution is imminent, there is good reason to withhold information at this point.
BTW Deuce, I did some searching for the photo you described, and I couldn’t find it. Safe search off. On Bing and Google. Occam’s Razor is a bitch.
Rt41Rebel: Is this the photo that you were looking to find? Trump has his hand on a 13 year old while she sits on Epstein's knee. Duck Duck Go found it right away, Occam's Razor be damned. Back then, the young lady must have been about the same age as Ivanka.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-claim-photo-100000520.html
Gadfly that image is AI created. Your link says so and shows the proof.
Find a better photo shop Gad...and where are all the topless girls Le Douche was yapping about??
How long until the MAGA faithful start saying that it would be terrible to release the Epstein Files because those Epstein Files are all Democrat Lies?
Listen - as I've consistently told other leftist shitheads like you on this board - we've always wanted the information released.
Always. From Day One.
Why do you think we're pissed off right now? Because we're Trump Cultists?
Pull your head out.
Wow, Botfly is now passing along AI fakes as evidence. I guess nothing has changed since 2016 when he passed along the Steele Dossier, except he doesn’t have to credit Steele.
@Achilles from 8:40pm
I highly suspect the Democrats and their flying monkey brigade baying like rabid hounds about Epstein after ignoring him for four plus years, as evidenced by this thread, is directly related to both the investigations into Crossfire Hurricane, and Bondi and Kash ejecting the worst partisan Democrats from the DOJ and FBI. Yes, Bondi has made some missteps but what evidence is available for public release is likely inconclusive. If one believes some of the more even handed observers like Dershowitz even a perfect rollout would have inevitably generated as many questions as answers. That Trump interacted with Epstein has been known for years, and my estimation is that they want more grain for the rumor mill to produce the dreck being posted by le douche, I-nag, and botfly in this thread.
Born rich? Envy is a sin. The Left doesn't love the poor, they hate the rich. Le D is another one masturbating as he posts.
le dou said: “ The Ds hate Garland because he was such a straight shooter.”
@ le dou, you had limited credibility going in. You went into negative territory with this one.
Every single Trump voter was fully aware of his connection to Epstein for years and promptly signaled their approval by casting their ballots for Trump. Why would they change their minds now?
Let Ghislaine Maxwell testify, that's why Trump won't pardon her.
Kak-a-phony said this with a straight face: “Every single Trump voter was fully aware of his connection to Epstein for years .. “
Oh please! You’re reaching for Adam Schiff level of credibility.
Progressives: The shooter in Minnesota is obviously MAGA because of his victims, so MAGA must be blame.
Reality: The shooter made a handwritten confession claiming he acted under orders on Tim Walz.
Progressives: MAGA is afraid to let Ghislaine Maxwell testify to Congress because she has evidence against Trump.
Reality: Ghislaine Maxwell was prosecuted by Garland’s DoJ that had a Special Prosecutor with free rein to bring any federal charges against Trump and nothing was mentioned about Trump. Likely because police records show Trump called the cops on Epstein decades ago for the type of behavior that resulted in Epstein’s imprisonment during Trump’s first administration.
Progressives: But we have AI generated porn.
Reality: Porn is bad for you, but you could at least try the real stuff than cartoons, you sick bastards.
Every single Trump voter was fully aware of his connection to Epstein for years and promptly signaled their approval by casting their ballots for Trump. Why would they change their minds now?
Yes, that connection is a police report in which Trump called the cops on Epstein. Your argument is the person reporting a crime must be in on it, which is absurd. However, this is you making the argument, and you have been wrong about everything you write.
Speaking of kak bich being wrong; TSLA still up 80 points (+33%) since April, and oil (WTIC) is fairly steady at $65/bbl. Diamondback Energy (FANG) down 23% since April when bich was quoting their CEO as the definitive expert on the Oil and Gas industry. The rest of the industry is down about 5% as the world retreats from the stupidity of the Green New Deal, that coincidentally heavily benefitted Russia and Iran.
Ugh, I've been trying to stay clear of this mess... but I don't understand why, if Trump is "all over" the Epstein files, if Trump is clearly implicated in Epstein's illicit activities, if Trump is the pedo so many appear to want him to be, he would surround himself with people who loudly proclaimed their intent to release the files.
I mean, did he, what, forget what he'd done, and what evidence might be out there about him?
It beggars belief.
The other possibility for those who want Trump to be a pedo is, I suppose, that he is so incredibly confident in his ability to hide the evidence of his own evil deeds, while allowing the evidence around everyone else to come out, that he had no qualms about surrounding himself with people who swore to release the files. Donald Trump, whose first administration was plagued by leaks and who, when confronted before his first inauguration with the Crossfire Hurricane "warning" that Putin might have something on him about prostitutes and pee and the Moscow Ritz Carlton, said (among other things ridiculing the suggestion) that he always assumes any room he's in is wired. That Donald Trump, knowing all the sins he's committed, believed no one around him would expose him.
That also beggars belief.
This is where I think it stands at the moment: the enemies of Trump believe with all their hearts that either he forgot his Epstein-related crimes and has only just been reminded of them, or else that, having been burned repeatedly by subordinates in his last go-round, he forgot that, and hired a bunch of people who would have the ability to expose him but just... wouldn't.
It's so much less convoluted to think that Epstein was an intelligence asset (not agent), and that there are people or events in the files that are still useful.
I've had that happen a couple times recently, Jamie. I'm sure your comment would have improved the quality of what is here.
gadfly said...
Rt41Rebel: Is this the photo that you were looking to find? Trump has his hand on a 13 year old while she sits on Epstein's knee. Duck Duck Go found it right away, Occam's Razor be damned. Back then, the young lady must have been about the same age as Ivanka.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-claim-photo-100000520.html
Gadfly is just a really stupid person.
He just can't even read.
Le Douche - another lying leftist dumb ass troll.
Botfly - and D-company - desperate to create a scandal.
You leftists deserve nothing but the bad karma coming your way.
Recall after Ryan Routh was found near Trump's golf course - with a gun. Turns out - Ryna Routh is a total leftist... Leftwing in every direction.
but that didn't stop the lying liars who lie from lying about him and calling him a MAGA.
Strange how so many Trump supporters want to kill him?
BotFly(D) - you are spreading a real cheap fake, a really bad Photoshop.
You have no credibility - a-hole.
Kak-A-Phony
You voted for Crook Joe and Idiot puppet Kamala.
Mob controlled.
Kakistocracy said...
Every single Trump voter was fully aware of his connection to Epstein for years and promptly signaled their approval by casting their ballots for Trump. Why would they change their minds now?
Let Ghislaine Maxwell testify, that's why Trump won't pardon her
This is how stupid you have to be to be a Democrat right now.
Rich simply can't understand how someone with more than 83 IQ can think about complex issues.
As Leland noted in his comment from yesterday — 15 year girls “seem attractive” …..
Kak-A-Phony.
You sound desperate.
From Full Moon's link
"Leslie Wexner, Epstein’s billionaire patron"
what? who is this person?
As Leland noted in his comment from yesterday — 15 year girls “seem attractive” …..
I like competent women. They make great employees. Maybe you should quit thinking about dating every women you meet.
Also, it was clearly a joke off the previous thread, but I expect you to not get the joke Kak.
⬆️🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡
Cult loyalty is blind until it isn’t.
“We will bring justice to the pedophiles!”
has been replaced by:
“Move along, nothing to see.”
Now they say it was fake news.
You do not need to be a conspiracy theorist to find something fishy about Trump’s special pleadings.
It might be a bit late for Trump to acquaint himself with the Chinese proverb: ‘if you ride the tiger, it is hard to get off’.
more from Mother Jones - that bastion of right winger!
"Epstein’s relationship with Wexner was transformative, if for no other reason than that he became incredibly rich because of it. Julie says a “huge, huge” change occurred in Epstein’s personality after his relationship with Wexner began to solidify, and particularly after he had started amassing his mysterious fortune. In fact, in her mind, three people were responsible for the changes she saw in her friend. There was Wexner. Less directly, there was Bill Clinton, who reportedly connected with Epstein through the Clinton Foundation. (“Seeing a powerful guy like Clinton get away with what he got away with,” said Julie, who never met Clinton, “I think it just emboldened him to think he could do whatever he wanted.”) And above all, there was Ghislaine Maxwell."
what?
Kak -a Phoney -
other that a fake photo and perhaps a name in Epstein's black book - what do you that is real?
You leftists are desperate and you also have no credibility. You run on lies and fumes. and one again - you sound desperate.
more from Mother Jones:
"In the course of my project I would come to realize the little black book was Maxwell’s as much as it was Epstein’s. Dozens of people I spoke to were surprised to hear they were listed in his book, sometimes alongside their parents’ or siblings’ numbers and home addresses, and just as many claimed they had never once met Epstein. But nearly all of these people did have some kind of relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell. A friend of Maxwell who had also seen the book told me, “This looks like her address book….I know several people [in here] who’ve never met him.” I would figure about a fourth of the people listed in the black book knew only Maxwell."
Kak only knows what he would have done if Epstein offered him a ride, and he assumes everyone thinks like him. As usual, people think the exact opposite.
So, liberals normalized queer sexual orientations (e.g. homosexuality, pedophilia) under the principle of political congruence ("="), then Democrats legalized it under the law. #NoJudgment #NoLabels etc. Progressives pushed women to the back of the bus, threw girls under the bus. How do we unwind this social Ouroboros without forcing catastrophic anthropogenic climate change? #HateLovesAbortion
The 15 year old — “She seems attractive.“ ~ Leland
As usual, Jamie is the voice of reason. Trump seems to have forgotten that he also needed the votes of morons in order to get elected (all politicians do), and now he wishes they would just shut up and go away. I also wish they would.
Mark@9:25PM--"Trump fucked Melania first on Epstein's plane."
I'll take your word for it.
Who fucked her second?
Kak - really?
Again - you sound desperate
up next in Kak's desperate BS - accusations of rape!
More from Full Moon's link:
"Months after Epstein’s death, I dialed up the last remaining listing in my book–a random number in the UK. It was disconnected. The media had mostly moved on from the case, and I was left to sift through the hours of interviews I’d done over the course of some 2,000 phone calls. One thing was abundantly clear: Epstein’s black book does not offer a portrait of a guy with many friends.
The book is the product of a systematized effort to collect human beings. A huge number of the relatively normal, professional-class people I spoke to were shocked their number was in the book at all. Either they said they had never met him or that they had had a single, superficial interaction with him. It’s as if Epstein had tried to reverse the usual dynamics of fame and power: He seemed to know more people than knew him. If Epstein had a talent, it was for knowing how much of his interest he needed to parcel out in order for people—scientists, stand-up comics, aspiring models—to feel flattered by the attention.
There were plenty of clues that Epstein was a poseur."
MAGA is a movement that was built on explicitly rejecting truth, evidence, logic to believe in hate filled conspiracies.
This works as long as MAGA is not in power. When they are in power, they need some validation of their conspiracies and their leader is struggling
My guess is, Pam Bondi is working over time to alter Epstein files and will release a list full of Trump enemies names. In the end, his base just wants some heads to guillotine. They never cared about truth and just process anyway.
Kak counters with own broad brush "hate filled conspiracy". The Richweed is flowing. Trying to sell the idea that the party of Bill clinton (painted in a dress) and Pedo Pete wouldn't be the first to tamper.
The party of Bill Clinton (painted in dress) and "Pedo Pete" would never manipulate the evidence? Interesting.
“MAGA is a movement that was built on explicitly rejecting truth, evidence, logic to believe in hate filled conspiracies.”
Clearly you have never met one Kak. You disrespect yourself.
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