Althouse: "It’s not politically correct to use the term, 'Regime Change,' but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

22 జూన్, 2025

"It’s not politically correct to use the term, 'Regime Change,' but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!"

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Jaq చెప్పారు...: Definitely the people who go out on the streets in support of the countries that just bombed them and assassinated so many of their leaders, going back months, if not years, BTW, will not be viewed as quislings.

This is probably why Musk is on the outs, that USAID money is how you pay mobs to mill in the streets for weeks and months, astroturf ain't cheap. Trump is coming around to the whole neocon project. They are already working on Belarus, again, after failing there once.; 22-06-25 7:05 PM
Disparity of Cult చెప్పారు...: When you wish upon a Star(link)...; 22-06-25 7:08 PM
Aggie చెప్పారు...: I wonder if Trump is already all done with the mullahs. They had their chance and thought they could stonewall and bluster. Their allies are either gone or busy elsewhere. Watch the people.; 22-06-25 7:16 PM
doctrev చెప్పారు...: Hah. Say what you want, but it's considerably more nuanced than "Assad must go." Maybe President Trump will come to a peaceful solution, maybe not. It's hard when you're dealing with mullahs keeping religious zealots in line. One thing is for sure, if he asked Congress for an AUMF, he'd get it. The donor class would choke the Rats back into line -very- quickly if they delayed.; 22-06-25 7:17 PM
lonejustice చెప్పారు...: TJaq said. "Trump is coming around to the whole neocon project." Exactly. Who would have ever believed that the biggest neocon politician was Trump.; 22-06-25 7:17 PM
rhhardin చెప్పారు...: Trump is running a NK ploy on Iran. Make them realize that he's not the person they're assuming he is, in particular not a natural enemy.; 22-06-25 7:24 PM
rhhardin చెప్పారు...: When you wish upon a tsar.; 22-06-25 7:24 PM
Peachy చెప్పారు...: US/Israel didn't bomb cities and populations centers in Iran.
sheesh.; 22-06-25 7:27 PM
Readering చెప్పారు...: As I commented in the prior post, Trump's impatience and short attention span are already causing him to post about regime change when he originally claimed, and had others claim, a more limited goal.; 22-06-25 7:29 PM
Goldenpause చెప్పారు...: Reading,
What makes you think that Trump isn’t being intentionally obtuse? Keeping the Mullahs and their enablers off balance and guessing looks like a strategy and not merely impatience or a short attention span. Someone with a short attention span would not have survived the left’s lawfare.; 22-06-25 7:39 PM
Goldenpause చెప్పారు...: Reading,
What makes you think that Trump isn’t being intentionally obtuse? Keeping the Mullahs and their enablers off balance and guessing looks like a strategy and not merely impatience or a short attention span. Someone with a short attention span would not have survived the left’s lawfare.; 22-06-25 7:39 PM
Kakistocracy చెప్పారు...: MAGA -- endless wars are great, actually.; 22-06-25 7:41 PM
Peachy చెప్పారు...: X

"So, Iran admits it’s a sponsor of terrorists and uses them as its proxy- exactly why all this started."
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BREAKING: Iran sent a message to Trump threatening to activate 'sleeper-cell terror inside the United States if it were attacked', according to NBC News report."; 22-06-25 7:57 PM
Peachy చెప్పారు...: Good thing the US had an illegal open border under Crook Puppet Joe for 4 years.; 22-06-25 7:58 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: I fear we are really going to pay for the democrat voter-importation project.; 22-06-25 8:02 PM
William చెప్పారు...: I don't know if Trump did the right thing, but, for the sake of argument, say he did the wrong thing. The downside for Trump and the USA will not be catastrophic. I think the mullahs should mull things over. The downside for their wrong move will be catastrophic for them and possibly for their country.....The Iraq/Iran war lasted years and caused a million casualties. The mullahs kept the Iranians in that war for several years after Saddam offered to settle. They're extremely pig headed which is ironic for such devout believers.....I don't see what the upside is for Iran in continuing the war. Maybe they can close the Strait for a day or two or even launch a terror attack here, but that just increases the odds of Trump giving them the full Gaza......Law of averages. Maybe someday someone will make a rational decision. There are some young people who might live to see it.; 22-06-25 8:07 PM
Humperdink చెప్పారు...: Trump’s unpredictability is his greatest asset. The mullahs don’t know what to expect next. (Which is why the commie-pinko left has been off balance for 5 months.); 22-06-25 8:18 PM
n.n చెప్పారు...: Mullah Spring?; 22-06-25 8:21 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: "They're extremely pig headed which is ironic for such devout believers....."

Um…; 22-06-25 8:22 PM
Kakistocracy చెప్పారు...: MAGA Friday: No new wars!

MAGA Saturday: Okay bombings but no regime change!

MAGA Sunday: There’s really no other solution than regime change.; 22-06-25 8:27 PM
MartyH చెప్పారు...: Iran has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz. This is strategically way more important to Saudi Arabia than us. Do they get involved in keeping the Strait open?; 22-06-25 8:42 PM
doctrev చెప్పారు...: MartyH said...
Iran has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz. This is strategically way more important to Saudi Arabia than us. Do they get involved in keeping the Strait open?

6/22/25, 8:42 PM

Getting involved is pretty much going to be a phone call from MBS.

"Donnie, we pay America petrodollars to make sure this kind of thing never happens... Inshallah! Do I look like a San Francisco femboy? I don't care a fig if you nuke the Iranians, just fix this."; 22-06-25 8:49 PM
Aggie చెప్పారు...: The Straits of Hormuz are about 20 miles wide at their narrowest, and require about a 130° heading change to navigate through them, around the corner. Not fast, in other words, for supertankers. I've read that the shipping lanes, where there's a deep enough channel, are about 2 miles wide, for each direction. And the channels are in U.A.E. and Oman territorial waters, not Iran. Anything can happen with Islamic zealots, and the Irani Parliament has 'OK'd' it, leaving the final decision to the leadership.; 22-06-25 8:57 PM
Humperdink చెప్పారు...: “We are not at war with Iran.”

Funny, Iran has been war with the US since 1979.; 22-06-25 9:00 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: "Getting involved is pretty much going to be a phone call from MBS.

"Donnie, we pay America petrodollars to make sure this kind of thing never happens... Inshallah! Do I look like a San Francisco femboy? I don't care a fig if you nuke the Iranians, just fix this.""

I think that's right. I hope Trump drives a better deal than MBS's opening gambit.; 22-06-25 9:03 PM
Gerda Sprinchorn చెప్పారు...: I'm going to wait to see how things turn out. Then I will have witheringly insightful criticisms of Trump's policy decisions ... he was too hot-headed, he was too wimpy, he acted too soon, he acted too late, he should have listened to Israel more, he was in the pocket of Israel too much, he was too slow to abandon his previous rhetoric, he should have stuck with what got him elected.

You just wait a few months, and you'll see how blindingly obvious Trump's mistakes are/were.; 22-06-25 9:06 PM
RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...: Closing the straits would have a massive negative impact on oil prices and the world economy . BTW, Saudi Arabia condemned the attack on Iran, and wasn't happy about it. Not only is there minimal love for Israel, closing the straits is something they don't like. At all.

Here's the thing, the Iranians don't have to "Close the straits" they can just let off the odd missile now and then and damage/destroy a few oil tankers. Chaos will ensue. Just like they can keep taking potshots at Israel every week.; 22-06-25 9:15 PM
RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...: One of the most curious things about Iran is even though israelis have assassinated about 100 scientists and Iraninan Politicians over the years, the Iranians have rarely responded in kind. I'm sure they working overtime to change that.; 22-06-25 9:17 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: "I've read that the shipping lanes, where there's a deep enough channel, are about 2 miles wide, for each direction."

Small works both ways. Can't we just park a few battleships there for the duration?; 22-06-25 9:18 PM
MartyH చెప్పారు...: Doc-

Keeping the Strait of Hormuz open is first and foremost the problem of the oil exporting and importing nations whose product runs through there. We should be their backstop, just like we attacked Iran's nuclear facilities than Israel couldn't reach.

With the ability to rapidly ramp up production through fracking, we are somewhat insulated from supply shocks.

I wonder how much groundwork Trump laid for this scenario when he was in the Middle East a few weeks ago.; 22-06-25 9:22 PM
Maynard చెప్పారు...: The shite that the lefties here are full of seems to be particularly pungent tonight.

Must be that diet of watching the propaganda news networks.; 22-06-25 9:22 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: "Can't we just park a few battleships there for the duration?"

We can send China the bill.; 22-06-25 9:26 PM
Aggie చెప్పారు...: If Iran starts hassling tanker traffic, they incur the wrath of their neighbors, who may not be allies, but are also not belligerents - yet. Also, some huge percentage of GDP for Iran is from oil exports. Further, Iran's defenses are being ground up like corn meal every day, and their refining infrastructure is increasingly undefended. Blowing up refineries will make their problems infinitely worse, starting to manifest trouble in things like electricity and transportation. Meaning civil unrest.

We're in nuance territory now, and nobody here has any meaningful access to the intelligence required to provide nuance. No doubt there is outrage there, in the streets, that they've been attacked - even if the targets were strictly strategic and casualties, minimal. I haven't seen any proof that Iranians are ready to overthrow the mullahs, or that the Republican Guard is out of play.; 22-06-25 9:35 PM
doctrev చెప్పారు...: MartyH said...
Doc-

Keeping the Strait of Hormuz open is first and foremost the problem of the oil exporting and importing nations whose product runs through there. We should be their backstop, just like we attacked Iran's nuclear facilities than Israel couldn't reach.

With the ability to rapidly ramp up production through fracking, we are somewhat insulated from supply shocks.

I wonder how much groundwork Trump laid for this scenario when he was in the Middle East a few weeks ago.

6/22/25, 9:22 PM

President Trump and the Gulf States have an excellent understanding. Guaranteed.; 22-06-25 9:40 PM
Achilles చెప్పారు...: Kakistocracy said...
MAGA -- endless wars are great, actually.

To be fair, Rich has trouble counting past 9 days. 9 is a big number for someone that limited.

When you have to forget how many times you were stupidly wrong 9 days seems like forever.

Rich has to completely dump everything he has said or predicted once every week or so for years.

Also the US has run exactly 1 mission and it lasted less than 24 hours here so it hasn't even been 9 days.

But when you are as stupid as Rich that's all you got.; 22-06-25 9:45 PM
D.D. Driver చెప్పారు...: This just made Liz Cheney squirt.; 22-06-25 9:45 PM
Iman చెప్పారు...: ఈ కామెంట్‌ను రచయిత తీసివేశారు.; 22-06-25 9:46 PM
Achilles చెప్పారు...: Aggie said...
If Iran starts hassling tanker traffic, they incur the wrath of their neighbors, who may not be allies, but are also not belligerents - yet.

Actually it is pretty clear from the congratulations and silence that everyone in the Middle East is behind what Israel and the US are doing right now.; 22-06-25 9:47 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: NATO summit this coming week.; 22-06-25 9:58 PM
Yancey Ward చెప్పారు...: You can literally smell the fear coming off the lefties right now- they are desperate to see Trump fail here and fear that he hasn't. I have no real idea whether or not the bombings were effective and I suspect we won't know for several weeks or months. I think the chances of the U.S. getting dragged into a land conflict here are small- there might well be more air strikes over the coming weeks. I also think people are badly misreading Trump's tweet here- all he seems to be doing here is suggesting to the Iranian people themselves to get rid of their government- a policy that is a long-standing one for the U.S. by the way. This isn't going to be Iraq part II. It could well turn into Libya II or Syria II should the Iranian people act to remove the mullahs but this isn't a ground conflict.; 22-06-25 10:09 PM
Howard చెప్పారు...: MIGA is another pressure point, less dramatic, a high ceiling and low probability of bearing fruit.; 22-06-25 10:15 PM
Howard చెప్పారు...: I can't imagine Iran wants to go toe to toe with the US Navy, but that's always a possibility.; 22-06-25 10:18 PM
Original Mike చెప్పారు...: "I can't imagine Iran wants to go toe to toe with the US Navy, but that's always a possibility."

They, and their proxies, have been harassing the US Navy. I suspect the gloves are off.; 22-06-25 10:21 PM
Iman చెప్పారు...: https://x.com/RealMattCouch/status/1936768892921078228?s=19; 22-06-25 10:54 PM
Jim at చెప్పారు...: they are desperate to see Trump fail here and fear that he hasn't.

It says a lot about the left (as well as those life-long 'republican' voters) that they'd rather the world's worst supporter of state-sponsored terrorism succeed if it means Trump loses.

I, for one, am glad the masks are finally coming off. Make no mistake who and what they are.; 22-06-25 10:54 PM
Jupiter చెప్పారు...: "The donor class would choke the Rats back into line -very- quickly if they delayed."
Yes indeed. Thank God for the "donor class".
Well. I guess we should thank YAHWEH. Pardon my indiscretion.; 22-06-25 11:11 PM
Jupiter చెప్పారు...: But yeah, if your last name is "Adelson", you can buy a war. Where would you like this war to take place, Mrs. Adelson?; 22-06-25 11:12 PM
wildswan చెప్పారు...: Shoot some of those precision missiles through guardhouses of the main prisons and through the gates. Once the families get their loved ones back they won't let the regime get them again. see Syria.; 22-06-25 11:30 PM
Achilles చెప్పారు...: Howard said...
I can't imagine Iran wants to go toe to toe with the US Navy, but that's always a possibility.

Iran doesn't.

The insane Mullahs that run the country on the other hand...

I don't think you are going to get much of a response if you ask the military to fight right now. I would be burying my IRGC uniform somewhere at this moment and there is no way I would be on any kind of boat with an Iranian flag right now.

The first boat that gets destroyed is going to be an object lesson.; 22-06-25 11:47 PM
Achilles చెప్పారు...: People do not seem to understand how things are different now.

This will not be a forever war for one reason: Trump needs it to be over and wants it to be over.

Do not fool yourselves about Iran's ability to hold out in any real conflict with our armed forces. We could have killed every person in the Taliban in a month. We knew exactly where they were. We caught them multiple times. We were just held back.

Our armed forces will not be held back this time. If we want Iran to surrender Iran will surrender. And it will be shockingly abrupt.; 22-06-25 11:52 PM
doctrev చెప్పారు...: That boat might be an American one. Drones are a very good answer to General Van Riper and his Millennium Challenge. But drones and hypersonic missles also make things very dangerous for American ships. Iron Dome can't block every missile, and carrier escorts aren't likely to.; 23-06-25 1:31 AM
gadfly చెప్పారు...: When was Iran ever great? Perhaps in 1991, when the United States recognized that Iran possesses programs to develop weapons of biological, and chemical nature. These weapons were used against military and civilian targets in the 1990-1991 confrontation with Iraq and these weapons likely continue to be stockpiled.

Or perhaps it was when the Iran hostage crisis began on November 4, 1979, when Iranian students seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, taking 66 Americans hostage during a period of political upheaval following the Iranian Revolution.
Ayatollah Khomeini was an Iranian cleric and revolutionary leader who played a crucial role in the 1979 Iranian Revolution, which overthrew the Shah and established the Islamic Republic of Iran. There never was a republic in Iran ran by Shia Muslims.

But Trump is unaware of Iranian history during his lifetime. Else he would not blabber about MIGA.; 23-06-25 2:55 AM
Jim at చెప్పారు...: @ gadfly
Why don't you link to what you're plagiarizing?

For all her faults, even Inga doesn't pretend.; 23-06-25 4:35 AM
Bob B చెప్పారు...: I’m surprised nobody has suggested Trump follow the policies used by previous Democrat administration to deal with Iran — give them billions of dollars to finance terrorism and their nuclear weapon development.; 23-06-25 6:06 AM
Rusty చెప్పారు...: RCOCEAN II said... @ 9:15

You're acting as if Iran has the flex to accomplish this to a serious degree. They don't. Granted. The Straights of Hormuz is a good chess piece. But without the rooks, pawns, and knights it's an empty gesture. You have to keep in mind that their ability to make and import their favorite weapon, missiles, has been severely curtailed. While the powers that are arrayed against them have an infinite supply. No. It's bluster. Even if it isn't and they manage a few attacks on shipping, soon they will have no navy. What will the mullahs call down upon The Great Satan then?; 23-06-25 7:09 AM
Rocco చెప్పారు...: “Small works both ways. Can't we just park a few battleships [in the Strait of Hormuz] for the duration?”

The rise of naval air power and the aircraft carrier meant the fall of the battleship. The US Navy has no active battleships in service, although about 8 are still around as museum ships.

The Navy does have 3 classes of ships that can fire guided missles: the Ticonderoga class cruisers, the smaller Arleigh Burke class destroyers, and the Zumwalt class stealth “mega” destroyers.

Cruisers are the biggest, with destroyers being smaller. The old battleships were much bigger. The Ticonderogas are 567 feet long, compared to 860 feet for the old WWII Iowa class battleships that had to (barely) fit inside the Panama Canal locks.; 23-06-25 8:15 AM
Rocco చెప్పారు...: Howard said...
“I can't imagine Iran wants to go toe to toe with the US Navy, but that's always a possibility.”

The last time the Iranians “touched our boats”, we destroyed half their navy in 8 hours. Our Navy was in much better shape back then, though.

It’s the Fat Electrician, so language warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5v6hlRyeHE; 23-06-25 8:23 AM
RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...: Rusty - the claim is Iran doesn't have the missiles. I don't know if thats true. Can I trust the NYT's and the MSM? No. Iran had lots of missiles, and they know how to make them. In some ways they're even more advanced than Russia - and the Russians some missiles.

If we destroyed their production facilities, they will rebuild. Look at WWII - how many times did we bomb the German Synthetic oil plants? Yet, the Germans still kept them going.; 23-06-25 8:45 AM
RCOCEAN II చెప్పారు...: As for parking ships in the straits. With hypersonic missiles, every ship is now a sitting duck. The day of the cruiser/battleship is over. A/C carriers can only function if the situation is right, and that means being far enough offshore, and being surrounded by protecting missle cruisers and destroyers.; 23-06-25 8:47 AM
Leland చెప్పారు...: To be fair Rocco, Iran was never great. I do agree that Persia on the other hand was great, and one of the largest empires that has been on this planet. There is much Persians can be proud of, but not Iranians. Then again, I'm not sure I want another Persian empire.; 23-06-25 8:57 AM
Rusty చెప్పారు...: RCOCEAN II said...

My, aren't we optimistic. It's very difficult to destroy with missiles when there are no missiles. Do you think building guided missiles is easy? And no. Iran has no hypersonic missiles. They would have used them if they had them. So what Iran has the option of is unguided missiles.
You keep thinking that Iran has chips to play. Their best move right now is to fold.; 23-06-25 9:33 AM
Michael McNeil చెప్పారు...: Iran is just the modern name for Persia.

On the contrary, Iran is the Iranian name for Iran—and has been for several millennia. Persia is the Greek name for the country.; 23-06-25 10:18 AM
Rocco చెప్పారు...: Michael McNeil said...
“Iran is the Iranian name for Iran—and has been for several millennia. Persia is the Greek name for the country.”

Those danged Hellenes. Serves them right being called Greeks by the Romans. As a Deutschamerikaner, I can relate, though.; 23-06-25 11:59 AM
JAORE చెప్పారు...: "Trump’s unpredictability is his greatest asset. The mullahs don’t know what to expect next."
That is right in Trump's wheel house. Keep 'em guessing. Let them fear the worst and hope for the best.
The left has learned nothing from watching Trump over the years.; 23-06-25 12:04 PM

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