From "'Dog Walking Is a Clear Crime': Iran’s Latest Morality Push/The government regards pet dogs as a sign of Western cultural influence. They are also considered impure, in Islam. Now there is a crackdown" (NYT).
Meanwhile, according to the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's fatwa, "Prayer is invalid with the presence of dog hair." We're told "A dog’s saliva or hair would render anything it touched — like a person, clothing or a surface — impure."
If you have a dog, you've always got at least one dog hair on you, I would think. All your prayers are invalidated. If things as puny as one dog hair invalidate a prayer, it's hard to imagine any prayers getting through.
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She walked her dog in a peaceful protest of the government.
Isn't God all-knowing? If so, then he already knows what I am going to be praying for and has already decided that he's not going to give it to me.
Why must we go through the motions? Let's just skip to the disappointment.
Maybe kinda like the P-Nut Revolution?
Is this really any of our business? Don't we have enough problems here at home? Sounds like they have found a modus vivendi. Or is this about justifying attacks on Iran with American bombers.
been seeing that term 'Morality' or 'moral imperative' a lot lately. whether it is from a government, or individuals, it always rings false for me.
It reminds me to re read Joan Didion's essay on morality.
has long tried to enforce an Islamic lifestyle and restrict citizens’ civil liberties....
That's a bit of an understatement, no? More like ...has long tried to interpret Islamic law to their own selfish ends and cut off the heads of anyone who disagrees....
As Ayatollah Khomeini famously said, “There is no fun in Islam.” Although you can have a good time gathering around to watch cars burn.
"Prayer is invalid with the presence of dog hair." One can only hope that the fall of this ridiculous set of tenants happens during our lifetime. It's hard to believe they haven't collapsed under the weight of their own ridiculousness already. Religions are ruined by the faithful, aren't they?
Comparable trends within Shiite Islam produced the great ideologue and eventual religio-political leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, following the retrograde “Islamic revolution” of 1978-79 which simply reestablished the pre-Pahlavi era norms of the Iranian Safavid and Qajar dynasty Shiite theocracies (of 1502-1724, and 1795-1925, respectively). KhomeinI was remarkably forthright and consistent in his calls for jihad to subjugate the infidel, dating back to at least this 1942 statement:
"Those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under Allah’s law (Sharia). … Islam says: “Kill [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter their armies.” Islam says: “Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors (jihadists)!” There are hundreds of other Koranic psalms and hadiths (sayings of the prophet) urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim. … Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless."
Khomeini reiterated these views upon assuming power:
The great prophet of Islam [Big Mo] carried in one hand the Koran and in the other a sword; the sword for crushing the traitors and the Koran for guidance. … Islam is a religion of blood for the infidels but a religion of guidance for other people. … We shall export our revolution to the whole world. Until the cry “There is no God but God” resounds over the whole world, there will be struggle.
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This is the same Khomeini who said, "There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
"If you have a dog, you've always got at least one dog hair on you, I would think."
One? I've tried to get my wife to rename her white furred pooch from Minnie to Snow Globe.
Iranian mullahs are losers.
What if you got a dog hair in on you without realizing it while you were cutting up some dog loving, infidel bitch for the jihad?
Seems like kind of a gyp.
If you blow yourself up for Allah and there’s a dog hair on you do you still get the virgins and stuff? Or was it all in vain?
Is this ruling retroactive?
More Hate propaganda from the NYT's. Iran has been defying the USA, so we get this story. OK - they don't like dogs. Do they like dogs in Saudi Arabia? Where's the story on that. Or what about Jordon or Pakistan.
Theory I heard was Big Mo hated dogs - when they were desert bandits the dogs alerted the camps they were raiding.
No dogs, no early warning.
There was a to-do a few years ago at the Twin Cities airport when Moslem cab drivers, of which there were many, refused fares with dogs. The airport commission told them, if you want to pick up fares at the airport, you have to take their dogs, too. Your call.
She's defying the authorities with a dog named Teddy. She's badass. I wish her well.
It's not only dog hair that blocks prayer. Believing in God blocks prayer.
Derrida on the Phenomenology of Prayer listen minutes 6 to about 28.
I have a great idea to force Iran into nuclear disarmament and to play nice in the public sandbox.... All we have to do it take drones and fly them over all the cities and disperse dog saliva and dog hairs. Do it day and night so that anyone stepping outside will become impure. Oh, and add bacon bits. Allah will turn his back on them and they will be forever without his blessing. If they get upset and try to go to war, they will have to do it without Allah's blessing. I did not read the Ayatollah's missive, so I don't know if it affects the number of virgin's they get.
Question for the Ayatollah: If you kill a Jew but there’s a dog hair on you, does that mean you don’t get any points toward Paradise?
I could be wrong about this but I remember Dick Gregory doing a comedy routine at Duke University when I was a student in the late sixties where he said that the Vietnam War would be over in three weeks if Nixon would just start drafting poodles.
“Son of a dog” is quite the insult in Islam. “Son of a swine” ratchets it up a bit. “Bastard son of a bitch dog mated with a boar hog” is hard to top.
Pooch-diddling Duroc!
Dog lover Rh, is not taking it well.
Dogs are impure because they eat shit. They'll eat anything. So this is s one thing Islam (and Judaism) gets right.
A stopped clock, etc.
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Remember, ladies, the Ayatollah doesn't want to see your schnauzer.
the Times reveals itself as an unserious publication exhibit 256
If things as puny as one dog hair invalidate a prayer, it's hard to imagine any prayers getting through.
With Trump on one side and the Ayatollah on the other, Iran doesn't have a prayer.
Yah, dogs and music are bad.
No wonder life among the Believers sucks so bad. If I had to put up with that, I might become murderously suicidal myself.
"A dog’s saliva or hair would render anything it touched — like a person, clothing or a surface — impure."
So, what I'm hearing is that everyone should mail dog hair to the Ayatollah.
didn't Persia use to be a real country?
before they tried to support Germany by changing their name to Iran?
I wonder if the Persian people LIKE living in Iran?
Iran's Islamic supremacists are only adored by western leftists.
many iranians don't, but they are suppressed by the MOIS and the Basij
Dog's got personality, personality goes a long way.
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More Hate propaganda from the NYT's. Iran has been defying the USA, so we get this story. OK - they don't like dogs. Do they like dogs in Saudi Arabia? Where's the story on that. Or what about Jordon or Pakistan.
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Are there crackdowns in those other Muslim countries?
pfft
Be nice if the unpopular Islamic Supremacist rulers of Iran could be liquidated by their own people.
Iran is a smart and educated nation, and modernization would be wonderful. Globalists and leftists like the power structure just as it is.. with The Supreme leaders using our money to fund Hamas.
In the history of Islam, I wonder how many converts were won based on an intolerable allergy to the pooches. In the worst cases, eliminating any chance of even an incidental exposure, is warranted.
Ayatollahs of Iran, Fauci/That democrat who ran a business torturing beagles - would make tasty soup.
“Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious. Islam does not allow swimming in the sea and is opposed to radio and television serials. Islam, however, allows marksmanship, horseback riding and competition.”
Ayatollah Khomeini
Iran has been known as “Iran” to the Iranians since the Sassanian Persian Empire of the 3rd century A.D. “Persia” was its Greek name.
Isn't God all-knowing?
He knows more than you or I do, that's for sure.
If so, then he already knows what I am going to be praying for and has already decided that he's not going to give it to me.
You're not praying to give God information. You're praying to communicate with him and build a relationship. And also to focus your mind and open your heart. And maybe to find out what's going on.
Jesus is notable for getting in fights with religious authorities. They had a lot of rules. And Jesus ignored their rules and challenged their rules. Any lawyer should study Christ and his fights with the Pharisees.
Khomeini via St Croix: " Islam, however, allows marksmanship, horseback riding and competition."
Ancient Persians via Jeff Cooper: "Ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth."
JSM
Fatwa be damned. Is there a more absurd religion? Aside from Mormonism that is. And Orthodox Judaism.
I've long considered the abhorrence of dogs to be a great weakness of Islam. Dogs were fundamental to human development. Divorcing ourselves from them is a betrayal to them--who adapted to life with humans and a betrayal of our human heritage.
Here is ChatGPT's summary of dog's significance:
1. Co-Evolution and Domestication
Dogs are likely the first domesticated animal, with genetic evidence pointing to domestication as early as 15,000 to 30,000 years ago.
Humans and dogs underwent coevolution: both species adapted to each other, with dogs evolving to better interpret human communication (e.g., pointing, facial expressions) — a trait not shared by even chimpanzees to the same degree.
Some anthropologists argue dogs helped shape human societies, particularly in early foraging and migratory cultures.
🏹 2. Hunting and Survival
Dogs improved the efficiency of hunting, especially in Ice Age and early agrarian societies.
This partnership may have increased caloric intake, which had downstream effects on survival, population growth, and expansion into harsher climates.
🛡️ 3. Protection and Early Settlement
Dogs acted as sentinels, warning of predators or intruders, which may have enabled more stable sleeping and gathering arrangements.
This protective role may have supported early sedentism, allowing humans to settle more safely in one place.
🧠 4. Social and Emotional Impact
Dogs likely played a role in social cohesion and emotional bonding, similar to how they do today.
The oxytocin feedback loop (the hormone tied to bonding and love) between dogs and humans mimics parent-infant relationships, suggesting that dogs tapped into human neurobiology in a unique way.
🏛️ 5. Cultural and Religious Significance
Dogs appear in ancient mythology, art, and burial practices, from Egyptian Anubis to Neolithic burial sites where dogs and humans are interred together.
This indicates they weren’t just tools or animals, but were emotionally and spiritually integrated into human life.
My investigations into the Islamic case against dogs, comes out modestly less critical of Islam than earlier:
Summary:
The Qur’an does not forbid dogs — and in some places, implies they are noble and useful.
Negative attitudes come from Hadith, not scripture, and interpretations vary.
In many Islamic cultures, dogs are respected for working roles (herding, guarding, therapy).
Keeping dogs as pets remains a culturally sensitive but not universally condemned practice in Islam.
If you have a dog, you've always got at least one dog hair on you, I would think.
Especially if you are The Shaggy D.A.
oh shit I got to buy that DVD
I recall the Taliban in Afghanistan in the 90s decreeing death to "short-legged dogs."
I already didn't like them (the Taliban, I love short-legged dogs) but that was the crowning act.
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