From The Editorial Board of the New York Times, "Antisemitism Is an Urgent Problem. Too Many People Are Making Excuses."
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"But as Conor Cruise O’Brien, an Irish writer and politician, noted, 'Antisemitism is a light sleeper.' It tends to re-emerge..."
"... when societies become polarized and people go looking for somebody to blame. This pattern helps explain why antisemitism began rising, first in Europe and then in the United States, in the 2010s, around the same time that politics coarsened.... The political right, including President Trump, deserves substantial blame.... Mr. Trump himself praised as 'very fine people' the attendees of a 2017 march in Charlottesville, Va., that featured the chant 'Jews will not replace us.' On Jan. 6, 2021, at least one rioter attacking the Capitol screamed that he was looking for 'the big Jew,' referring to Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, Mr. Schumer has said.... Joe Rogan, the podcaster who endorsed Mr. Trump last year, has hosted Holocaust conspiracy theorists on his show. Mr. Rogan once said of Jews, 'They run everything.'... [Antisemitism also] has a home on the progressive left.... They have failed to denounce antisemitism in the unequivocal ways that they properly denounce other bigotry.... Americans should be able to recognize the nuanced nature of many political debates while also recognizing that antisemitism has become an urgent problem. It is a different problem — and in many ways, a narrower one — than racism. Antisemitism has not produced shocking gaps in income, wealth and life expectancy in today’s America. Yet the new antisemitism has left Jewish Americans at a greater risk of being victimized by a hate crime than any other group.... No political arguments or ideological context can justify that bigotry...."
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NYT, still spreading the "fine people" hoax. Never change, NYT.
For NYT to once again retell and endorse the "very fine people on both sides" hoax shows how coarse our politics has become.
And once more NYT promulgates the easily debunked and foul "very fine people" lie. This time to deflect the iniquitous behavior of the left onto the American right, the innocent defender of the Jews.
the Times who hosted stringers, who wanted to bake jews in an oven, really now, thats so far over their skies, but they have whitewashed Arafat, the nephew of Haj Amin, Ahmadinejad,
Khomeini, what have you,
I'm always amused when Ann posts something so deranged, she doesn't feel any need to comment.
The Fine people on both sides - Trump was referring to the debate about statue removal. Even Snopes(D) has that one figured out.
Hack-D NYT are unable to get their facts right?
I don't get it? Jews are quick to claim that support from AIPAC leads to a 100% election win strategy.
But then if you criticize the governmemnt, or claim that Israel has outsized influence in Washington, DC ... all of a sudden you're anti-Semetic.
You can't have it both ways, Jews.
If you want to run the world, prepare to be criticized for how you do it.
no you don't get it, no surprise, we have seen millions of people baying for jews blood, in every capitol for years on end,
Of course, a lot of the NYT's fellow travellers don't think antisemitism has become an urgent problem...in fact, they think antisemitism is a just cause. This editorial reads like the "both sides" efforts of the student newspaper at the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople.
So the political right hated Jews and the progressive left merely hasn't spoken forcefully enough in condemning the political right? Also, we are being lectured on antisemitism by someone from Ireland, whose recent antisemitic track record ain't so hot?
Maybe the problem is really the importation of millions of people whi have been openly advocating for the extermination of Jews since 2010 or so by virtually all western nations?
Powerline has an excellent article this morning on anti-Semitism on the conservative/right. It's not as bad as it is on the political left, but it is there, and its proponents have millions of followers.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/06/the-online-rights-israel-foes.php
Notice that the NYT has tweaked its version of the "fine people hoax" so that it's not as vulnerable to the criticism that it's a "hoax": "Mr. Trump himself praised as 'very fine people' the attendees of a 2017 march in Charlottesville, Va., that featured the chant 'Jews will not replace us.' "
There are "attendees" who may have been VFP according to Trump and the "march" "featured the chant."
It's still a problem because the march with the chant was a lesser included part of the overall event that drew people to Charlottesville.
Antisemitism is rooted in the fact that around 4000 years ago God made promises to a man named Abraham. A man found to be just in Gods eyes. You may certainly disagree that such an encounter ever took place. Whether or not it happened is immaterial, only that significant portion of the world believes it happened. To point to the business acumen of one people group for such a length of time yields only 2 possibilities:
They actually are Gods chosen people, or they are world class crooks. Either possibility can bring nothing but contempt from a majority of the world’s population.
That the world hates the Jews is not in question. The world which hates them is forced to forever dance around the truth, but never actually acknowledge it.
That’s the future.
And on Jan 6, "at least one" person called Schumer "the big Jew." Well that settles it! They are ALL Nazis!
That NYT includes an anecdote about the rants of one deranged person on Jan 6 regarding Sen. Schumer as evidence of anything is stunning. You know, what NYT really needs is some good editors that would keep stupidity like this off their pages.
Imagine a world run by the editorial board and publishers of the NYT. I think I just found my next psycho thriller horror film to pitch to Blumhouse. The audience will shit themselves.
- Krumhorn
"Mr. Trump had made it normal to hate, by using bigoted language about a range of groups, including immigrants, women and trans Americans" Among progs, TDS is an even lighter sleeper. The guy whose daughter married a Jew and converted, and the guy who is standing by Israel, and the guy who is going after campus dens of antisemitism somehow still has to be invoked in a critique of antisemitism.
Most of the anti-Israel/ Jew hate is on the left - certainly there is also some on the right. But most of it is leftist.
The New York Times and the left should probably try a little introspection here.
those are the editors, the ones that allowed the 'targeting' hoax re Tucson, who still whitewashed the Pulse shooter,
the UN operates by Times rules, with the usual hypocrisy,
Althouse--I noticed the tweak of VFP and I appreciate your careful parsing of it, but NYT knows exactly what happened on that day and they are playing on the ignorance of many of their readers. The NYT wins the mendacity sweepstakes with this pile of stupidity and misdirection. None of those chanting at various universities for the obliteration of Israel are guided by the inanities of various fringe characters on the right. They are guided by the thoughts and hatreds of their professors. That is what NYT should be discussing.
yes I don't like Dave Smith, but compare with alaswani, the Egyptian dentist and novelist, who was an actual Times stringe,
Notes from the asylum. The ignorance of news and history at the NY Times is stunning, but expected.
NYT: "The political right, including President Trump, deserves substantial blame..."
Nonsense. Who are the ones wearing keffiyehs? Who are the ones blocking Jewish students at universities? Who are the ones supporting the unsupportable actions of Hamas?
This post deserves the "civility bullshit" tag.
Amadeus - exactly correct.
The NYT skips past the radical Palestinian keffiyeh
wearing campus Jew-haters - who openly threatened the Jewish population. radicals who chanted "from the river to the sea."
too much is made of the Azovs and it's founders, but they are a factor, as is the Svoboda faction much reduced since Poroshenko,
fabulists like Richard Falk, who started misreading the Ayatollah, in the first place, and of course he was promoted to the UN Human Rights instrument,
"For NYT to once again retell and endorse the "very fine people on both sides" hoax shows how coarse our politics has become."
Maybe... but...
To me it means they expect their readers to NEVER look beyond the leftist fog of lies AND/or they know a large percentage of their readers are morons.
You have to be steve austin, to make such leaps of logic,
I submitted a comment on that article. It was not published. It began " The NY Times is still buying in to the fine people hoax"? With a link to snopes.
The art of the smear.
Evidently it's unenlightened to scapegoat the Jews when instead you can scapegoat Trump.
The Zionists always want to change the subject from reality - i.e. what is Israel doing - to Antisemitism. Bibi is a war criminal and should be in prison. Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and needs to stop. And the USA needs to stop supporting attacks on Iran and make it clear we are not going to send American boys to fight Iran.
The Zionists don't want to address Israel's criminal behavior in the last 2-3 years. Or their insane level of control over our scumbag DC politicians. Instead, its lets derail to "Why do people hate the Jews?"
"Notice that the NYT has tweaked its version of the "fine people hoax ..."
I also note that the NY Times still has a Pulitzer Prize for its Trump/Russia Collusion Hoax.
"Zionist" is the buzzword used by F-heads.
"anti-Semitism on the conservative/right. It's not as bad as it is on the political left, but it is there ..."
I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the son of God himself.
Nahhh, can't be related. That happened thousands of years ago.
As for calling Trump a "Nazi" and that usual liberal/left lies. They lie about everything! The 2020 election, mostly peaceful protests, Trump collusion with Russia, J6 insurrection, Biden has never been healthier, etc. etc. etc.
I tried to read a hard copy of the NYT's yesterday, and it was simply unreadable. Almost no hard news, just opinion, and Liberal/left propaganda.
Schumer likes to tell that story to his guests while he cooks cheeseburgers on his backyard grill.
The most amazing thing about Democrats and the MSM, isnt that they lie, its that they rarely tell the truth. What can you do with them? Completely amoral.
It's getting harder and harder not to think of the NYT as one of those commenters that you no longer read, because you're not going to learn anything of interest. And it's a bad sign when a newspaper is reduced to re-printing long-discredited things for the benefit of trying to reassure and preserve a shrinking reader's base of True Believers. It's like Sears, selling off their commercial real estate, property-by-property, to try to keep the company afloat with the cash flow. Pretty soon, the ship is down to its last plank.
Charlottesville, again. Where the Mayor ordered the police to force the opposing sides of the protest to march past each other on the same street. And Trump, of all people, to be accused of fomenting antisemitism, considering his immediate family, the Abraham Accords, his promise of re-locating the embassy to Jerusalem, his attacks on prestigious universities - explicitly for their antisemitism. The NYT's feet must be getting wet by now.
as a general rule, every pulitzer, the Times has won in recent Times, has been fraudulent , did Sydney Schamberg win one
again if the Jews and the Romans had not played their part,
the Covenant would not have been fulfilled,
Jesus counted on the pigheadedness of the Pharisees and the Saducees, and they didn't dissapoint,
1. The left isn't anti-Semetic.
2. The left might be a little anti-Semetic, but everyone is.
3. This anti-Semetism is all Trump's fault.
4. The left's is only anti-Semetic because Jews like Trump.
5. The left is anti-Semetic, and here's why that makes them better!
We are on Step 2 of the New York Times' well-worn playbook.
yes i put the pulitzer in lower case,
on a bigger stage, all of the strife not just between Jews and Christians, but that of Catholics and Protestants and Orthodox has been the Devils' work,
meanwhile the Egyptians told the next convoy 'khalas' that means enough, in Arabic,
"I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our ..."
I've been reliably informed in a book I read that He forgave them for their sins from the cross. There are a few other helpful behavioral hints offered up there, too.
hamas's war cry, is khaybar il ullah, thats 'the river to the sea'
This anti-Romanticism nonsense has to stop.
He forgave them for their sins from the cross
Actually, he begged God to forgive them, claiming they knew not what they were doing.
Mind you, this is the same God who murdered every human being on the planet except Noah, 2 sons and a few chicks.
Somehow, I don't think God forgave the Jews for murdering his kid.
Smear. Slander. Promote suspicion, mistrust, fear, hate and division. Quote out of context. Emotionally manipulate. Lie. Destroy.
The men and women of the New York Times doing meaningful work and changing the world.
Jesus spoke of how all the Prophets had been ignored or persecuted, from the beginning,
he started his preaching out of Isiah, which foretold exactly what would happen to him,
pontius pilate, was the worst sort, see what he did to the Samaritans, but as an officious Roman bureaucrat, he didn't want trouble,
the mendacity and ignorance, of the Times is kind of a thing of wonder, it's the gellman syndrome, wet streets cause rain,
the Washington Post is nearly catching up in mendacity, specially since Bezos bought it,
“The New York Times and the left should probably try a little introspection here”
We’re past that, Fred. The NYT and the left (BIRM) can go fuck themselves.
in the Angel spinoff, the Devil had a lead lawfirm, Wolf Ram and Hart, it's not too far to say, the Times is the leading mouthpiece,
Former Law Clerk: “ I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the son of God himself.”
Mysteriously you forgot to add “enabled by the gentile government in power.“
How many NYTers took part in the antisemitic agitation over the past couple years? Inquiring minds…
it's part of their orientation process,
Your newspaper of choice, Ann. Like the Kitty Genovese case, there is just enough -- not much, but just enough -- to get the gullible to buy in. Trump da-da-da, all those who voted for Trump ya-ya-ya, hoo boy so bad. But also, on the other hand, you know, the "progressive" Left has enabled anti-semitism too! Gasp. Yes, by failing to condemn those anti-semites on the right. LOL. Keep shape-shifting, liberals. What a painful squirm it appears to have become.
Former Law Clerk: Your hatred of the Jews is worldly, secular, and anti-Christ. You do not pray, which means you are not speaking to God. You are not speaking for God, either. Go to a Bible study if you actually want to follow Christ. Why do you speak for Christ when you don’t know him, and you have no faith in his words?
Again with the 'very fine people' tack?
We all know this was taken completely out of context, right? We all know this. Everyone knows this. Yet...the left recites it as if it was an offering in a daily prayer, as part of a dogma to recite on a regular basis.
And to lay antisemitism at the feet of the right these days is inaccurate, but not completely wrong. There's plenty to go around and the good thing for people like me is that since October 7, it's become clear who is who. I make no mistakes about it, now we all know where we all stand.
But over the last couple of decades, there can be no doubt that the left has been the home of antisemitism- birthed on our college campuses, nurtured, grown, and thriving. To be a Jew on a major college campus these days is to be very low profile or expect to be attacked.
The marriage of Marxism with antisemitism was to be expected. It just took a bit of time here in the US. But it's in full bloom now.
As for the right...well...I've heard enough from the Dave Smiths and Tucker Carlsons to last me forever. Theirs is more insidious because they do the kind of thing the best manipulators do: Mix a lot of truth in with a bit of some key bullshit or lies. So you grab your listener with some truths, some things you know they want to believe anyway, then you add in that extra layer of...manipulated hate. And for those already predisposed to those leanings, well...Gotcha!
As for guys like Former Law Clerk, well...you're getting it all off your chest today, eh? The only thing you've left off (but it's still early) is me drinking my daily glass of Christian blood.
Jesus was a Jew. I'll leave you to explain yourself to Him when you get there. As for AIPAC, I don't pay a whit of attention to it. And if you're shocked that there's a lobbying group representing a specific ethnic group or nation or interest, well...get out more. See the world more. Expand on what you read or see or hear. FYI- AIPAC is not the only one playing that game and fighting for their interests. EVERYONE is doing this.
We can discuss if its right or wrong, but to use that as your excuse for the hate you were taught as a kid, well...that's pretty much bullshit. Your hate is on you. Or your parents. Take it up with them. I grew up surrounded by guys like you. They never did seem very Christian to me.
I don’t recall Trump being much of a political figure around 2010. Even if they meant late 2010s, I think they used 2010, because we all know the racial division in our country started earlier. That brings us to today, because it isn’t the political right protesting against Israel or killing Jews in the streets in the US. How does one explain Kamala Harris avoiding Josh Shapiro in a must win Pennsylvania and opting for definitely not a manly figure Tampon Tim Walz in solid blue Minnesota? It was clear she thought a Jew on her ticket would hurt her more than a supporter of the Chinese Communist Party.
Leftists live in the never ending Jan 6th loop. They were able to jail people without due process - using North Korean authoritarianism. Every mask wearing instigator in the crowd was a fed. Every single ONE.
Leftists are still obsessed with the "Trump told everyone to drink bleach" lie. I still hear that a ton in leftist group think circles.
The funny thing about the left's Russia Russia Maddow lies - is that the left got Trump elected.
Thank you Mueller Maddow!
look at how Al Sharpton, a low jive talker and fantasist, who I think Tom Wolfe, underplayed, his deception, but he couldn't have imagined how far he would rise, after talk of diamond merchants and Freddie's Fashion Mart should have driven him out of politics,
as it was with the mau mauer's on the West Coast, and the Panther apologists in New York, their grand kids fell for the so called BLM fraud,
as for Tucker, I think largely the secular jews alliance with the left, and the Islamist rights, probably shapes some of his perspective,
there is a litttle too much facile talk about neocons, the foolishness of Irving Kristol and a few others, make it too easy to pigeonhole everyone, on that side,
what we know is the long expeditions into Afghanistan and Iraq, have earned us no advantage and has burdened many,
yet they embraced andrew cuomo whose quack doctor, actually injected her with a bleach solution, and yet after this angel of death's 15-30,000 excess deaths he has a good chance of becoming mayor of Gotham, if Hamas boy Mamdani doesn't displace him, Scylla or Charybdis,
Christians don’t hate the Jews. Our Bible is filled with Jews. Jesus was Jewish. People who hate the Jews, hate Christ, and his family, and his people.
The big question Peter (the first Pope) had to decide was not whether Jews could get to heaven, but whether non-Jews could. Jew hatred is measured by how Islamic a culture is, or how secular. I am not surprised that a left who has abandoned God, is so willing to abandon the Jews, too.
"I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the son of God himself.
Nahhh, can't be related. That happened thousands of years ago."
That's correct, it happened two thousand years ago. Holding anyone living today responsible is insane. And, as a Christian, I'm going to point out that Christ's sacrifice was essential for our salvation and forgiveness is a central Christian concept.
Temujin said...
"Again with the 'very fine people' tack?
We all know this was taken completely out of context, right? We all know this. Everyone knows this. Yet...the left recites it as if it was an offering in a daily prayer, as part of a dogma to recite on a regular basis."
It's an article of faith in the cult, among many other articles of faith
Every leftist protest or training/struggle session I've infiltrated in the last two years has been taken over entirely by the Palestinian/Hamas groups and morphed into hours of screeching "From the River to the Sea," ie. exterminate Jews. Whether it's anti-cop, radical environmentalist, anti-Trump, anti-ICE, it always ends up with the Palestinians running the whole show. Funny as it is to see aging Code Pink ladies dressed as giant morning-after pills being shoved off the sidewalk by angry women wearing full burkas and pushing baby strollers; or perplexed gay activists suddenly realizing they're not the subject of their own march; or the DSA/CPUSA traitors carefully shutting up for once; or ANTIFA brats chased away by actually scary-looking, muscular and bearded Middle Eastern men, the Jew-hatred these people have been carefully insinuating into the leftist protest bunch is in full bloom -- and full control. To be on the Left is to want to exterminate Jews now and until these other leftist activists completely separate themselves from the PIJ, Hamas, River to the Sea messaging.
Which they won't. I've listened to them scream it for hours on end, working themselves up into frenzies. It's scary.
So anti-semitism rose in Europe at the same time it was being flooded with Muzzies? Weird. Anyway….Trump!
I think we all need to pray for God to heal FormerLawClerk's heart.
Tim Walz is so clearly a chi-com agent that his annointment scared me one hell of a lot more than Kamala.
The Left has spent decades getting American Jews focused on looking strictly to their right for signs of anti-semitism. Then when those Jews get hit on the back of their heads (e.g., antisemitic anarchists at Columbia and Harvard), Leftists proceed to persuade them that some dirty right-wingers managed to sneak around behind them.
And, of course, good Jews have to prove how good a Jew they are by ritually hating Donald Trump. He has three Jewish grandchildren, whom he loves, and they are Orthodox, living in a family that keeps kosher, not “ham and cheese sandwiches” Reform Jews.
Trump supports Israel and fights antisemitism, and he does so despite knowing in advance that he will get no credit for it. If any hard core Jews could pull their heads out of their ass long enough to look, they’d realize that Trump is a mensch.
Also the NYT: "We must have unlimited immigration from cultures where Jew-hatred is practically the national pastime."
Nope, no contradiction there.
To follow along O'Brien's metaphor, it's like a dry river bed. When the dams burst or the storms come, that's where the water flows.......For all that, when the floods come, I 'd rather have the Jews on my side than not......I don't like Schumer, but Pocohantas gets further up my nose. I suppose my misogyny is worse than my anti-Semitism.
A lot of the early Bolsheviks were Jews. Kamenev and Zinoviev thought that the ideal leader to stamp out religious bigotry in the Soviet Union was Stalin. I don't know if far left Jews are all that prescient in their awareness of bigotry......It's for sure that Nixon didn't like Jews, but he was a better friend to Israel and Jews here than the Black Panther Party.
Mr. Trump himself praised as 'very fine people' the attendees of a 2017 march in Charlottesville, Va.,
Whatever this is you can stop reading it right there. Nothing following is worth anything.
So true Big Mike.
I’m one of many Jews that’s much more concerned about lunatic leftist antisemitism than anything emanating from the Right (I voted for Trump three times). The NYT is forever on the prowl looking for white hooded white supremacists-maybe they should run an ad on Craig’s List.
I’m one of many Jews that’s much more concerned about lunatic leftist antisemitism than anything emanating from the Right (I voted for Trump three times). The NYT is forever on the prowl looking for white hooded white supremacists-maybe they should run an ad on Craig’s List.
The dark night of antisemitism is always rising on the right, but somehow always ends up being acted out by the left. It's a mystery...
This is beyond the pale even for the NYT. The revival of the Charlottesville hoax, the implication (or pretext) that the outrageously vitriolic antisemitism visible on campuses and the streets of NYC and the alarming rise of antisemitic incidents nationwide relate to Trump are absurd. The most visible and aggressive antisemites in America are the pond scum of the left largely fomented by the anti-Israel media.
In late September of 2021 Dennis Prager wrote an article titled “Who Would Hide a Jew if Nazis Took Over America?” My initial reaction was that Jews would turn to their fellow lefties and the lefty goyim would turn them in to the authorities in a heartbeat. I had been alarmed to see — foresee — the rise of antisemitism among the American left all the way back during the Obama administration, and I quietly let a Jewish friend know that if things got too bad we’d let him and his family move into our house and do what we could to protect them. Since I was at that time a competitive shooter, I imagine I could go a lot to protect them.
And he laughed in my face. He was well-connected in Democrat politics and imagined that nothing could ever happen to him because of his Jewishness.
My friend died (of cancer) during COVID so was not around to see Jewish students walking in fear on college campuses. I wonder if he’d laugh now?
Opposition to state policies of ethnic cleansing, terrorism, assassinations on foreign soil, and the prosecution of undeclared wars is not "antisemitism." If it is, there are lot of Jewish antisemites.
Who needs to declare war? How is tiny Israel, or the United States, for that matter, with our thousands of miles of porous borders, going to defend against truck bombs, drone attacks, container bombs in ports, assassinations, all of which have now been given the official imprimatur of the political leadership of the West? Who can say that trained soldiers would have a difficult time entering the US with malign intent?
Former law clerk shows us an ugly side today. Too bad, but RCOCEAN is thrilled. You know OCEAN, the person accusing Israel of genocide evidently not understanding that if Israel intended genocide she would have ended the “Gaza War” by October 8, 2023.
Meanwhile, Former, the majority of the Body of Christ in the US prays continuously for the safety of Israel.
In the US, Jews are the most prominent group of whites who still identify by ethnicity. You still got your micks, polacks, krauts, and dagoes but their ethnic identity is more muted nowadays. The WASPs are still around but moribund, though they still fund a lot of the elite institutions. The old money WASPs generally hate the Jews. Always have.
"Yet the new antisemitism has left Jewish Americans at a greater risk of being victimized by a hate crime than any other group."
Well, yeah. If attacking you is a hate crime, and attacking me is just a plain ol' vanilla crime, or maybe not even a crime, then, for sure, you are more likely than me to be the victim of a hate crime.
Tucker Carlson always has been a wannabe WASP.
The very "fine people" hoax is well established with all who have simply googled the Trump press conference after Charlottesville. But somehow the "Jews will not replace us" hoax has not. I watched the tiki-torch march on the UVa campus on live Charlottesville TV. I heard their chant as "You will not replace us" as it was originally understood and reported. As national media moved in on the story it began to change and that is now how it is now generally believed. But this is absurd in the context that was the specific point of the demonstration: the removal of Lee's statue. There was no Jewish issue even remotely connected to it. This was about Southern culture and history being erased. "Replaced."
""Zionist" is the buzzword used by F-heads."
Huh? What? I'm not entirely sure who the "F-heads" are, but Zionism was a political movement among Jews seeking to found a Jewish homeland. They chose the name. And they were very successful. Thus far, anyway.
Here's an interesting film about Netanyahu. I gather it was produced by some rather liberal Israelis. Their thesis is that Bibi's personal corruption (and especially his wife's) got him into political trouble, and when his allies decided to throw him under the bus, he found new allies on the extreme Zionist right. It cost $10 to watch, but I'd say it was worth it. They present a lot of interesting leaked video from police interrogations of various Israeli political figures. I'm not sure they're right, but they make a strong case. If nothing else, it provides an insight into Israel's internal politics.
“Former Law Clerk,
I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the son of God himself.
Nahhh, can't be related. That happened thousands of years ago.”
You’re not an antisemite. You are just holding a 2000-year-old grudge.
If you believe that Jews were able to kill the son of God, then maybe you should be more circumspect in your criticism.
Of course, the Romans had nothing to do with it. They were just following orders. If that were the case, why did the Romans destroy the Second Temple, raze the city of Jerusalem, kill a large percentage of the Jews, and exile the rest?
I thought that a fundamental principal of Christianity is that Jesus Christ died for your sins. If that had not occurred, what would happen to your religion?
I heard their chant as "You will not replace us" as it was originally understood and reported.
@Lurker, me too. In fact the first time I saw I saw the Tiki-Torch chant mis-transcribed as “Jews will not replace us” it took me back to the scene in “Annie Hall” where nebbish Woody Allen complains that people aren’t saying “would you,” they’re saying “would Jew.”
Remember when Israel destroyed the infrastructure of government in Syria and turned the state over to the head choppers? The new leader of Syria had a $10 million dollar price on his head, but now he's A-OK!
Remember when we destroyed civil government in Afghanistan, Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor admitted this, BTW, and no we have handed over the government of that country to the head choppers?
Remember when we overthrew Qaddafi and handed Libya over to the head choppers?
Why wasn't it a big story a month ago when Pakistan's defense minister said that it had stained its national honor by helping the US by supporting jihadi terrorism? I thought that 9-11 was a huge deal, but when a story like this comes out, that Pakistan, which was sheltering bin Laden when we killed him, was supporting terrorism at our request, this seems like kind of a big deal. But nah! Snooze.
Remember when a former Israeli government official said that ISIS had apologized to Israel for killing an IDF soldier? Yeah, the same ISIS that carried out that bloody attack in Moscow, and that seems to only attack enemies of the West? Nobody cares.
What do you think the plan is in Iran? Do you think that once the infrastructure is destroyed, it won't fall into the hands of head chopper warlords? Will slave markets open up where women are sold to the highest bidder like Libya? They will probably start wearing the hijabs voluntarily once the head choppers are put in place by the West to terrorize them, as has happened in so many other countries that have come to our attention.
But yeah, to criticize any of it is "antisemitism," the accusation of which is always sleeping lightly, and awakens whenever criticism of Western policies need to be silenced.
"I heard their chant as "You will not replace us" as it was originally understood and reported."
The guy who organized the Charlottesville protests was a Hillary supporter, who had posted his blog admiration for and the need to engage in agent provocateur tactics. Charlottesville was a psy-op, and the cool thing about psy-ops, is that it is so easy to accuse anybody who points it out as being "crazy'," no matter the evidence. Same with J-6, a psy-op, a direct copy of the Reichstag Fire, and undertaken for the same kinds of reasons.
Normal people have a hard time believing that sociopaths and psychopaths exist, and sociopaths learn from a young age how to manipulate people with normal human emotional responses. Sociopaths are drawn to power and are extremely good at the kind of machiavellian manipulations required to attain it.
Both sides lie relentlessly and their supporters here repeat the official versions without skepticism, so it's natural that people now want to disengage from the Middle East.
The generation of Moshe Dayan understood that force had much to do with the creation of Israel and that force would sustain and preserve it. That's something to bear in mind before signing on to Douglas Murray's Great War for Civilization.
Do old line WASPs really hate the Jews? Are there really any old line WASPs left? Once Jews and WASPs were bitter rivals and the WASPs felt that rivalry. Nowadays, intermarriage seems to be quite common among secular Jews and secular WASPs.
Mr. Trump himself praised as 'very fine people' the attendees of a 2017 march in Charlottesville, Va.,
And again, we have another piece of shit opinion I declined to finish. I don't know why I even bother to start anymore.
It's nothing but lies.
It's not as bad as it is on the political left, but it is there, and its proponents have millions of followers.
Bullshit. It's a few cranks on the fringe.
it was about survival, from the time that Wingate trained what would become the Palmach, against Haj Amins rebels, through the wars from 47 to 73
“I wonder if that's tied to the fact that the Jews brutally tortured and murdered our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the son of God himself.
Nahhh, can't be related. That happened thousands of years ago.“
So law clerk has outed herself as a Chuck Kak afilliate. There is no more cover.
“ Bullshit. It's a few cranks on the fringe.”. Jim at, copyright that, the idea that a small percentage of extremists exist far away from the mean is revolutionary.
Much was justified in the name of survival that wasn't strictly necessary for survival. When every war is defined as a fight for one's life anything will be justified.
"I don't get it? Jews are quick to claim that support from AIPAC leads to a 100% election win strategy.
But then if you criticize the governmemnt, or claim that Israel has outsized influence in Washington, DC ... all of a sudden you're anti-Semetic." [sic]
AIPAC spending vs. Other Major PACs and Super PACs (ChatGPT):
While AIPAC as an organization historically did not contribute directly to candidates (since it’s a 501(c)(4)), in 2021 it launched a Super PAC, United Democracy Project (UDP), and a PAC, AIPAC PAC, marking a major shift in strategy. These now spend heavily to influence primary and general election outcomes.
In terms of financial influence:
United Democracy Project (UDP) spent over $41 million in the 2022 midterm elections, making it one of the highest-spending Super PACs in Democratic primaries, particularly targeting progressive candidates critical of Israel.
For comparison, other top Super PACs in 2022 included:
Senate Leadership Fund (Republican) – over $205 million
House Majority PAC (Democratic) – over $130 million
Club for Growth Action (Republican/Libertarian) – over $80 million
EMILY’s List (Democratic, pro-choice women) – tens of millions annually
Yes — in raw dollar terms, AIPAC’s Super PAC (United Democracy Project) spends less than half of what the very largest Super PACs do in total federal election spending.
Yet regardless of the amount some people will claim that Jews/Israel control the government -- that kind of delusional thinking is indicative of antisemitism.
PS -- We know these "progressive Democrats who target Israel" are also definitely anti-MAGA and anti-USA. It's strange how things have developed on the Left such that if you are anti-USA you are also anti-Israel, but least they are consistent in their rhetoric. On the Right the anti-semitic Conservatives are actually nuttier. Both forms of hatred are disturbing.
I whave to say, that Connor Curse Obrian is the grandest most lordly Irish thing that could happen.
People at the ADL and some of the more extreme Zionist organizations don't really understand WASPs. Or Right-wingers. They just want to worship Jews. They just want Jews to say "Hey Goy, we appreciate your support - and thanks". And maybe ask for a blow job.
But the ADL and the hardcore Zionists cant help themselves. They just look at some Southern Evangelicals and old-timey philosemtic WASPs and they see Hitler 2.O. Its like when all these dumb Southern Evangelicals go to Israel to worship jews, and some Orthodox Jew spits on them.
It'd be funny - if it wasn't so sad. Its like the Pope cucking for the Jews, and the Jews still saying "Hey, that's not good enough".
Ooh, top of the mornin' its your most Orish Irish man ever, Connor O'conner O'Dublin O'brian and i'd like to say : "love the jews, doncha know". And thank yee. 'cause the ADL gave me a few shekels.
The American "newspaper of record" - really the Daily Catechism of the governing class - has at least two factual errors - about Trump's praising white supremacists - the "both sides" fake news that won't die, and the quote about Joe Rogan claiming that "Jews run everything...", I've never heard this before and just went to look on the net for the source it... is anyone aware of when Rogan might have said this. (I'm not a fan of either Trump or Rogan, albeit for different reasons).
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