"... and allow the current leaders of the Justice Department to shutter them. He could continue to pursue the cases for the next two and a half months and essentially force Trump, or his appointees, to pull the plug. Or, with Garland’s blessing, he could release a comprehensive final report detailing the evidence against Trump.... Smith also has more deeply personal concerns to consider. Trump, who has vowed to use the presidency to seek retribution against his adversaries, has repeatedly accused Smith, without any basis, of criminality. Last month, Trump said Smith should be 'thrown out of the country.' And on Wednesday, Trump’s allies signaled quickly that Smith should prepare to face consequences. 'Dear Jack Smith: Lawyer up,' said Mike Davis, a bomb-throwing Trump ally considered to be in the mix to be a top legal adviser in the incoming administration...."
From "Trump’s biggest courtroom nemesis is looking for an exit strategy/The special counsel is expected to wind down the federal criminal cases he has spent the past two years building" (WaPo).
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114 comments:
Of all the people in this world who I will NOT be shedding tears for, Jack Smith is at the top of the list. He and Merrick Garland had both better be lawyering up.
Consider the huge amount of time and money this entire episode has consumed. And for what? To keep Trump out of the White House? Now he's back and he's pissed -- and hopefully, a whole lot wiser as to how the government really works.
Jack Smith was illegally appointed by Merrick Garland. Who should now be arrested for that crime along with Jack Smith.
They tried to MURDER Donald Trump and almost succeeded.
Watch how quick he pivots to "unity." Trump's biggest problem is that when push comes to shove, he won't put Hillary Clinton in jail, even though that's precisely where she belongs.
I’m a fan of prosecuting real crimes but I don’t know the recourse for radical politicized prosecutors who live in the lawless area between weasel words, novel legal theories, and the Supremes we’re fortunate to have. Banishment sounds right…
…and you don’t get to hang with Diddy’s friends in exile…
Impersonating a cop is a felony. So is impersonating a Prosecutor or any other type of government official.
Jack Smith was NEVER AUTHORIZED properly to conduct criminal investigations in the United States of America. What he has been doing is acting ILLEGALLY.
It's a negotiating strategy - the crazy Trump position to strike a deal everybody likes.
Trump must fire EVERYONE in the Justice Department that he is legally allowed to fire. On Day One. Including all US Attorneys who have been weaponized against him. Including the entire 7th Floor of the FBI (Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile protectors). Including the CIA that has current and former officials signing fake letters claiming Russia Collusion. FIRE. THEM. ALL.
There needs to be some deterrent consequence for what Garland and Smith and others have done wrt lawfare. Not sure what, but disbarment should be on the table. Same for Elias and others who concoct hoaxes and twist our laws on their head to gain power against the will of the People.
"repeatedly accused Smith, without any basis, of criminality"
Tampering with evidence seems like a basis to me..
Smith literally had FBI agents PLANT EVIDENCE at Mar-A-Lago during their illegal search of Donald Trump's wife's panty drawer.
All Trump has to do is sign an executive order and he can legally kill both of them. Just like Obama did to Americans he disliked as President.
The year was 1963. I was in high school and earned a letter swimming butterfly. One November day our principal to announce that President Kennedy had been shot. Later he came on again to tell us the President had died.
And the number 1 hit was “My Boyfriend’s Back,” which included the line ”if I were you I’d take a permanent vacation.” Jack Smith should think about that. Merrick Garland might want to rent the next chalet over.
Calling Jack Smith, “The Special Counsel”, is misinformation.
Well there is no more election to interfere in so they might as well pack it up. I am constantly surprised at the left's hopes that Trump will be magnanimous. Unless there is some retribution they will do it again.
I fully expect Biden to pardon Hunter to keep him above the fray. The prosecutors and dark money henchmen, they should be frightened right now. Garland has the same Contempt of Congress hanging over his head. How long did Bannon spend in federal prison?
There must be consequences. Serious consequences. Else how will the leftie femme beta cucks learn to work and play well with others?
- Krumhorn
The media is working EXTRA HARD to avoid mentioning that Kamala Harris got 13 MILLION fewer votes than Joe Biden somehow managed to get.
13 million Democrat voters - upon hearing that Literally Hitler is about to END Democracy in America - decided to stay home and not vote in the election.
That's what the media wants you to believe.
The 2020 election was STOLEN and if it were not for Nancy Pelosi performing an illegal coup, the THIEF would be our next President.
If you really want to witness a nightmare, watch Letitia James’ gorgon-headed furies rant against Trump in which she basically says she will pursue him with all the resources of her office.
Meanwhile, scores of murder, molestation, rape and assault cases are going up and unprosecuted under her offices.
What a sicko.
On July 15, Judge Aileen Cannon held that Attorney General Merrick Garland lacked statutory authority to appoint Jack Smith as a Special Counsel to investigate and prosecute federal criminal charges against former President Donald Trump. On the basis of that holding, Judge Cannon granted Trump’s motion to dismiss the indictment against him in the case involving documents retained at Mar-a-Lago. The Department of Justice appealed that ruling and a final decision has not been heard.
This is why Smith is quitting. They want to make the case moot.
I certainly wish there were a way to make Adam Schiftbird’s life miserable. But he is now likely out of reach.
- Krumhorn
Lock him up!
And on their own nickle! Give them the Giuliani treatment.
nickel
They do not have the IQ to actually try cases. That is why they plea bargain all of them.
The rest should be paid to attend their days in a rubber room where they have no responsibilties or access to government information, people, etc.
Oh, look, another troll runs away.
There was a chart out on x showing the votes in the last four Presidential elections. 2020 stands out like the proverbial red-headed bastard child!
Number of people who voted to achieve these goals so small.
And they have trained squirrels and raccoons to murder after raiding owners home for 6 hours....whilst millions of rats are taking over the city...(not to mention the violent illegal gangs)
I’m beginning to think Gadfly can no longer muster up the self-delusion to convince even himself of his own bullshit.
…they had to promote him to save him
Hit the road, Jack!
I think that for starters a good recourse would be a civil suit by Trump against Smith and Garland in Florida for malicious prosecution and/or abuse of process with no immunity or qualified immunity for Smith and Garland. Until these radical prosecutors feel some personal financial responsibility for their intentional, knowingly wrongful actions, they and/or the next ones in the position will keep doing it.
If he actually had anything, he wouldn't have needed to stage the fake photos and he could easily have made the case by now. If he had anything that justified the raid on a former president's home, he should have been able to explain it on a postcard.
Yes, disbarment and that Garland and Smith are personally liable for Trump’s attorneys fees (not the government).
What goals? End the lawfare against Trump? Well that got a majority of the popular vote.
Did gadfly just take his ball and go home? I hope that Althouse doesn't remove the deleted comments, as a souvenir of this time.
I like that…
Wasn't Jack Smith's tag line "No man is above the law?" What goes around comes around.
This reminds me of Rachael Maddow whining that Trump won't be able to work with the security agencies, the "Five Eyes," you know, just because they worked to undermine our democracy, and betrayed the elected leader of the United States with lies and out of context leaks of his presidential communications. I might subscribe to the New York Times just to go back to 2016 and look at the stories that came out based on the illegal intercepts of Trump's calls, intercepts based on what are now known to be lies to the FISA Court.
I liked Turkey’s “Flying Dutchman” metaphor for Smith’s status at this point. Doomed to wander for eternity , never reaching his destination.
Ah, he's flounced: "But I will restrict my comment to his summary, ending my further participation with the reprobates frequenting this blog." - gadfly on the open thread.
I especially like the touch about equality before the law. Remember how Joe Biden had classified documents to which he had no right, stored in a cardboard box in his garage where his son, an unregistered foreign agent, hand complete access to them.
Of special note was when he crackhead son wrote that remarkably cogent solicitation to Burisma offering his services, a letter which contained a great deal of insight into the internal politics of Ukraine, you know, the kind of stuff that is contained in classified State Department memos.
Equality before the law. Who f*cking believes that? Trump was fined a sum equal to all of his available wealth under a novel interpretation of a law that was a century old, for a victimless "crime."
Flounce away gadfly, flounce.
I am the Special Knox County Attorney and I was legally hired.
"Trump, who has vowed to use the presidency to seek retribution against his adversaries, has repeatedly accused Smith, without any basis, of criminality."
Without any basis? Jack Smith was not properly appointed, made up violations of law without any basis, and that's not criminal? Hello? Self-awareness?
Speaking of accountability for malicious prosecutions, Leticia James should be on that list. She actually ran for office with the expressed intent to prosecute Trump before she even had any crime in mind. Doesn't get more malicious than that.
I suggest he file a report that states Trump is an old man who couldn't be successfully prosecuted because of the favorable views a jury would have about him. It worked before.
Sure. But reading comments here that say end lawfare.
In the end, Jack Smith won't amount to "JACK SQUAT!!!"
Yes, let's not forget "judge" Engoron, who railroaded ridiculous financial judgments against Trump with absurd instructions to a NY kangaroo jury too.
I’m fine with him just paying back what was unlawfully appropriated, but for every million that he can’t return, a year in prison seems very lenient.
He should self-exile back to the Hague, where he came from.
Democrats made the case that Trump will go after his political opponents. They made that case while prosecuting their political opponents. I think Democrats made the mandate that Trump’s administration should hold Democrats to account for their official abuse of authority. They said he would if elected and he was elected.
Maybe Democrats should have spent more time on productive policies.
In related news, Fani Willis is suggesting her case against Trump will go on a 5 year recess. She can’t help but find ways to violate Trump’s rights.
I doubt Trump will pursue anything. Although he has every reason to seek justice against the injustices visited upon him, first and foremost he is a patriot. Whether right or wrong, being magnanimous is likely the better course.
This probably isn't a popular opinion, but winning back the presidency may be justice enough.
I find your Democrat party leadership to be pretty small. Petty, too.
This election, hopefully, will signal loud and clear what people think of lawfaring political rivals. This third world bullshit should never ever happen again.
Putin not rushing to congratulate Trump is from the same strategery thinking.
Trump will not waste his time going after Garland, Smith and the other fascists who have tried to jail and impoverish him.
He will spend his time figuring out how to partially dismantle the Deep State and reduce government bureaucracy.
In other words, I believe that Trump is fighting primarily for the American people, not for himself.
Meanwhile the Trump popular vote is converging on the 2020 outcome, around 74 million. It's almost like America delivered a slap and said 'No - This guy'
Game theory says he has to. He should have the trials in Oklahoma City, though. Just like game theory says that Iran has to go after Israeli leadership. You can't just let one side violate norms, like Israel's penchant for assassination, without responding in like manner, or you lose. It's a well known aspect of game theory.
Which leads to my question; Does qualified immunity protect you from malicious prosecution?
You've been waiting forever to use that haven't you?
It was clear from day one, Smith was not legally appointed. The new Justice Department should sue Smith to return all compensation he received from the illegal appointment.
My hope, still, is that Jack Smith and AG Garland are successfully sued for the cost of the prosecution, for spending money not appropriated by Congress. It appears to me that the Antideficiency Act (ADA) would be applicable. I had been hoping that the False Claims Act would be applicable, but AG Garland is too high of a ranking Officer for it to be effective against them (essentially knowledge of the expenditure is attributed to the US government for knowledge of such by top Executive Branch executives). It looks like the worst that be done to Garland and Smith are $5k fines. There are criminal provisions, under the ADA, but no one has ever been tried for them. But, then, no one had ever been tried for much of what Smith indicted Trump for, so maybe a little payback is appropriate.
Lock the bastard up! Make up some charges. Keep after him for a few years. Object lessons need to be learned
She did! What did the silly old libtard say?
I wish there was a way to make Smith and Garland accountable for lawfare. But like the FBI Cross Fire Hurricane BS there will be none.
I would draw the lines more narrowly, to those involved in political prosecutions of any sort. Some federal prosecutors are honest and ethical. Many are not. Most are protected by Civil Service. Even Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were found to have been wronged. To fire them then requires just cause. And that likely requires that their actions violated either DOJ rules and/or the US Constitution (or statutes). The J6 prosecutions, by and large, did both. Ditto for most of the LawFare practiced by the DOJ (notably, by violating the Due Process protections of the 5th Amdt), as well as the National Security spying on varying people.
Democrat Party criminals in government should be rounded up and sentenced to hard labor building the wall on our southern border. Then after the wall is finished, catapult them all right over it into Mexico.
Jack Smith would be wise to take any Trump threats serious. But Trump also positions himself so there is always a peaceful resolution possible. If Jack Smith withdraws from this fight, I don’t think he has much to worry about legally from Trump. Reputation-wise, he’ll be toast with Republicans and toasted by Democrats. But he should be legally safe. Now, if he chooses political violence on the way out the door - like Letitia James - he can rely on Trump to be neither gracious nor forgiving.
Trump is one of Jeffery Epstein's "pedophile protectors". I never understood the stupid conspiracy theory that Clinton had Epstein killed. Trump apparently also had reasons to want Epstein dead, and he was in a position to do something about it.
While it might be satisfying to go after Smith and Garland in a punitive way, there is a risk in doing even more politicization of the judiciary. The higher goal is to insure that the abuse of the system is deterred in the future. I am not exactly sure how that can work out, but aggressive prosecution of the other side at each change in leadership puts us further down the path of banana republic. Infamy is its own punishment. Though Hillary will probably never go to jail, her legacy is really bad, she has to endure that shame. Same can be done for Garland and Smith. Take the high road but put in protections to prevent this from occurring in the future.
Their analogy is wrong. Trump's election is the nemesis, coming hard upon Smith's. Garland's and Biden's hubris.
David - I think your situation, and that of Smith are very different. For one thing, Smith had the power of an Officer of the US, akin to that of a USA, without statutory authorization, as required by the Constitution. The Constitution does allow appointment of officers by some department heads, IF AUTHORIZED BY STATUTE. The AG was not provided that power by statute, so didn’t have it. Statutes provide for the AG, Deputy AG, maybe a dozen Assistant and Associate AGs, and 93-94 USAs (I think that it is Guam that shares a USA with Hawaii). Smith fit in none of those slots.
Smith should be charged with impersonating a special counsel.
What everyone is dancing around is that a good chunk of those 13 million excess votes were almost certainly fraudulent. Harris’ total is not far off from what you would expect in the trend, if you remove 2020. Their total jumped by 10 million or so votes in 2020, then dropped back towards the trend line this year. Add in the very obvious fraud documented in those 6 swing states, and it’s all but certain.
Trump, who has vowed to use the presidency to seek retribution against his adversaries...
Classic MSM ploy here - they make this assertion and include a link that they know few of their readers will look at as support. If you actually go to the link, it is a Politico article that states as a given (without any actual citation to any Trump quotes) that "Trump promised to get revenge" and spends the entirety of the article discussing who might be targeted.
First person to be fired should be Christopher Wray and his deputy. In fact, go through and fire every FBI lawyer and person at FBI HQ that can be fired. Then do the same to DOJ. And DHS. Find out who the whistle blowers were (if there were any and promote them).
BTW, we'll still have to go through that farce of the Leftwing NYC "Judge" sentencing Trump for his so-called "crimes". If you think that weird clown will back off now that Trump is President elect, you don't know Leftists.
Trump should also refuse to extend Executive privilage to the Biden Adminstration if any of them are questioned by Congress. What goes around comes around.
Of course the MSM (1) refuse to quote Trump or specify what he said and then (2) claim there is "no evidence" which is lie. Its the same, neverending game. MSM = DNC Propaganda.
I feel like Trump should sent the FBI to raid his house and seize all his papers and computers. They should arrest him and frog march him to jail. Make him do the perp walk and get photographed. And after about 48 hours of that shit, Trump should pardon him and put this evil shit behind us.
I sure wish something could be done in the name of deterrence, because this banana republic activity needs to be nipped in the bud.
Trump needs to pardon himself. He shouldn't listen to listen little Lord Fountleroys and Old Grannies who want to "trust them to the do right thing". The Left never forgives and never forgets. Assume after Trump leaves office, they will come after him AGAIN. And act accordingly. Take no chances.
Average Trump rally goer seems to get off on pettiness.
Now that the threat of personal cancellation is dimming, I'm expecting to see some tall-foreheaded genius publish an analysis of the 2020 vote, using high math to show that the result was not only abnormal, but mathematically impossible, within the laws of statistics and polling regulations.
Astronomers use higher math all the time to prove the existence of things they can't see or measure, directly. It's all a big 'water-under-the-bridge' event, it won't ever be proven by the conventional metrics. But it would be a good closure and a premise to reform voting in the US.
Bill Clinton (and Ronald Reagan) fired EVERY US Attorney when they became President. Trump should fire EVERY Democrat he is legally allowed to fire in the entire US government, including the State Department.
They will make him regret it if he does not do so.
Trump's biggest problem is that he doesn't have the stones to go after the Mafia.
Prove it Freder.
Said Readering without a hint of irony.
Make him spend all of his money on lawyers first.
The Democrats used free Federal Assets including hundreds of free lawyers in front of free Corrupt Judges to cause DJT to pay a billion in lawyer fees.
Thank God for Alina Habba who was the rare lawyer worth the mega fees they all charge.
Now it’s the corrupt bastards turn.
As to Jack Smith, I'd like to see him get what he has coming.
Some federal prosecutors are honest and ethical. Many are not. Most are protected by Civil Service That last part is a problem- protected by Civil Service. POTUS is the boss. Period. And should be able to fire anyone in the executive branch. They all work for him. Actually, civil service protections from presidential firing has never been tested in a court. And would likely be proved unconstitutional if it were.
The FBI has all of the Epstein files.
I know that Trump didn't do anything illegal with Epstein because the FBI would have arrested Trump if he had.
They made up crimes to get Trump. Nobody above 90 IQ thinks Trump did anything illegal with Epstein.
I look forward to General Flynn's investigations into the criminality in Washington DC.
As far as the DOJ, it’s such a mixed bag that one should proceed with caution as to firing everyone. I’ve got a dog in the hunt, admittedly, because my husband works for them. He is the most honorable upright experienced talented fair attorney you would ever want to have and is explicitly a-political.
Now that the threat of personal cancellation is dimming, I'm expecting to see some tall-foreheaded genius publish an analysis of the 2020 vote, using high math to show that the result was not only abnormal, but mathematically impossible, within the laws of statistics and polling regulations. That's already been done. Problem is- that's theory and not evidence. There's a reason Dems fought so hard to stop every possible line of audit. Or signature checking. Or address checking. And- why they unlawfully destroyed audit trails in some areas. Because a good look behind the scenes would prove chicanery.
This whole lawfare program smacks of denial of civil rights under the color of law. Right now, the Trump team should make a broad announcement to the DOJ and all their outreach connections to not delete emails or purge documents or wipe phones under potential criminal penalty for destruction of public records.
Trump could have legitimately put Hillary through the wringer for her crimes. He let her off and her thanks was to lie continually about him.
Vengeance via lawfare would be nice, but Trump is unfortunately too nice
Aggie (9:58 AM):
Let's hold off on the mathematical analysis of the 2020 election until after January 20th. I suspect there are at least a few Democrats wondering if they could announce that the 2020 election was in fact stolen, provide the damning evidence, and then conclude that Trump was therefore ineligible this year because he'd already been elected twice. It probably wouldn't work, but would certainly gum things up nicely.
Then again, maybe I shouldn't have written this. It's possible none of the Democrats is smart enough to think of this (what I would have thought obvious) ploy.
Maybe not any longer.
Does qualified immunity protect you from malicious prosecution?
It's my understanding that the government can waive qualified immunity for its employees if it sees fit. Cops like Derek Chauvin are thrown under the bus this way all the time, particularly by grandstanding Democrat politicians.
At higher levels of the civil service, this becomes less common, so as to avoid a mutiny that can derail a President's agenda. But in this case the mutiny has been ongoing since 2016, and I think the incoming President will not be inclined to have much regard for the hurt feelings of the Justice Department's senior permanent employees.
In fact, I hope and expect that this will be one of the tools in the bag that a blue-ribbon commission will use to put the Justice Department through the most invasive proctoscopic examination it has had since its founding. Trump should put the entire civil service on notice that violations of the law in service of partisan political gain will result in instant dismissal regardless of the Pendleton Act and subsequent reforms, will be vigorously prosecuted in criminal cases, and qualified immunity will be waived so that victims of these tyrannical government scumbags can file civil lawsuits and strip them of their homes and their childrens' college funds. Snitches and whistleblowers should be rewarded, and anyone hiding or destroying official records or committing perjury to protect themselves or others should spend decades in prison. Even if they ultimately lose these cases and the government scum get their jobs back, it will be a pleasure to watch them be bankrupted by legal fees.
We want vengeance and punishment for the lawless government filth that will be written into future history books, and serve to terrorize the rest of the worthless hired help into good behavior going forward.
Achilles: "I look forward to General Flynn's investigations into the criminality in Washington DC."
That would be gucking florious. He's an Intel guy, so used to reconstructing insurgent networks from all available evidence. Perfect man for the job. You, sir, are a genius!
RLTW
JSM
Trump should appoint Rudolph William Louis Giuliani as Attorney General.
'Dear Jack Smith: Lawyer up,' said Mike Davis, a bomb-throwing Trump ally considered to be in the mix to be a top legal adviser in the incoming administration...."
Exactly, this is why Trump is the most effective negotiator around. The mixed veiled threat bouncing between the personal and the professional.
Maynard: "Trump will not waste his time going after Garland, Smith and the other fascists who have tried to jail and impoverish him. He will spend his time figuring out how to partially dismantle the Deep State and reduce government bureaucracy."
The thing is, one is part and parcel of the other. You dismantle the Deep State in part by making public examples of their leaders. Then the next time a GS-15 is tempted to throw sand in the gears, she decides it's not worth it.
Trump should do the reverse of the usual conspiracy-prosecution strategy: instead of getting the little fish to roll on the Big Tuna, get the cowardly "leaders" to identify exactly who did what for them, so that the tendrils of this parasitical plant can be pulled out of the tree of liberty.
JSM
Trump should fire EVERY Democrat he is legally allowed to fire in the entire US government, including the State Department.
Agreed. Every single one. Don't give them the opportunity to submit a resignation. Bring them into an auditorium, announce that "Your services are no longer required, your passwords have been changed, your security clearances have been revoked, you are not to return to your office, and you will be escorted onto the sidewalk by US Marshals. Hand in your badge and gun on the way out the door."
If there's any way that they can be refused the privilege of carrying a gun as a retired law enforcement officer, that would be a nice cherry on top. The LEOSA law requires them to be "separated from service in good standing" before being allowed that privilege. Seems that if they got fired for cause we could strip them of that privilege, which I have always hated as a sort of "title of nobility" creating two classes of citizen.
They say that like it is a bad thing but have been cheerleading for the Biden administration lawfare against their adversaries.
Trump is one of Jeffery Epstein's "pedophile protectors"
No, he isn't. As soon as Epstein got handsy, Trump tossed him out on his ass at Mar-a-Lago. You've been told this countless times and you still continue to lie about it.
Stop lying, liar.
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