October 31, 2024

"See, one, one of the weirdest things is if you are on the wrong side of their ideology, like if you are aligned with Trump, like RFK Jr is now all of a sudden."

"I've seen like people on the left that are trying to dismiss a lot of the things that he says about additives in food, about atrazine, fluoride in the water, all these different things. Because now they're connecting not having toxins in your food with a right wing idea.... It's so bananas. Like even being healthy fitness, fitness, they're connecting fitness with a right wing idea."

Said Joe Rogan, 48 minutes into his 3+ hour podcast with JD Vance. It's an excellent conversation, and I was particularly interested in what Joe said, because he's been cagey about which side he's on. You can hear that he's concerned that he's getting classified as right-wing.

Later, 2 hours and 7 minutes in, Joe says this about Kamala Harris: "It's just strange that everyone's accepting that this person who is the least popular vice president ever is now the solution to the problem and that the media machine in just a few days did this 180 and just sold her as the solution. And as long as they keep her from having these conversations where she's allowed to talk, they're able to pull this off. And the, the fact that it's happening with no primary should be really concerning to people... because that's never happened before.... they could have had a primary...."

Of course, when he says "these conversations where she's allowed to talk," he means, above all, the Joe Rogan Experience.

Here's the full video:

63 comments:

rhhardin said...

I sampled it and found every sample unsavory.

traditionalguy said...

Listening to JD talking with Joe all afternoon. And I learned that MAGA has itself a real winner waiting in the wings if Trump goes down for health reasons such as lead poisoning.

And frankly that’s the best news we’ve seen in years.

Ralph L said...

I don't connect fitness and health with pot smoking and mushroom snorting, or whatever they do with them.

Paul said...

Well.. I hear Hitler wasn't elected either (appointed) and since Kamala keeps talking about Hitler.. well... on the other hand Trump did go through the primary system... voters on the Republican side want him. I have no idea what the Democrats want.

Paul said...

So you are all in favor of assassination? Keep in mind though.. that can go both ways.

Dixcus said...

The fact that Harris participated in a coup should really concern people. She, Nanci Pelosi, Barack Obama and several other co-conspirators THREATENED a sitting President of the United States that they would remove him from office, when they know that he is very concerned about the prosecution of his only remaining alive son.

They threatened him. It is a CRIME to threaten a US President to get him to do ANYTHING. It's a FELONY.

That is what should concern people. They feel they can do this, that we can all know about what they're doing ... their conspiracy to topple a US government ... and they feel we will do NOTHING about that. That should concern people.

I don't like Joe Biden. I think he's a pedophile. But he's the President of the United States and we have laws protecting the President from the sort of threats that these people have engaged in.

If they get away with this, then we are all going to be very, very sorry for it. Our nation, our Union, will disintegrate into a vicious war that will make the Civil War look like a cakewalk.

Original Mike said...

"And as long as they keep her from having these conversations where she's allowed to talk, they're able to pull this off."

The "basement" campaign strategy won for them in 2020. Of course they're running it again. And it may win them the White House again, which would be an unfortunate development.

Dixcus said...

The Democrats want $7 trillion annually stolen from the American people fair and square. That's what they want.

Eric the Fruit Bat said...

I watched snippets of the video, randomly, back and forth, easily bored as I am. J.D. Vance seems like a pretty smart guy. Smarter than me, anyway. I kept wondering if Joe Rogan was on drugs, but then again, I was primed to suspect that so who knows?

RCOCEAN II said...

Rogan is concerned about being "labeled Rightwing" because he's NOT rightwing.

He's a pot smoking, social liberal, who voted for Biden in 2020, and refused to have Trump on his show in 2021 through 2023, because "he didn't want to give him a platform".

But he is in favor of free speech, and he's not willing to close his eyes and support the Liberal/left no matter what. Had he talked to Harris, his liberal/left side would've come out more. But Harris didn't want to talk to anyone who's not 100 percent in the tank for her.

RideSpaceMountain said...

"It's just strange..."

The appropriate word is "weird". Kamala is so weird!

RCOCEAN II said...

As the liberal/left has gotten more totalitarian, and more extreme, a lot of people who used to "reasonable liberals" are having doubts. Hopefully, enough will vote for Trump, so we can stop the Democrats from packing the SCOTUS, or ending free speech. Maybe, another loss to Trump, will bring them back from brink and back to sanity.

boatbuilder said...

I'm old enough to remember when raising concerns about fluoride in the water was actually right-wing.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

He's concerned because he's been labelled right-wing by his haters and he's always maintained he's more of an old-school liberal.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne aka Doug Emhoff's Pimp Hand said...

I hope I get a chance to listen to this tonight. I'm more interested in him having a conversation with JD than I am with his conversation with Trump.

Mason G said...

Rogan is concerned about being "labeled Rightwing"...

Maybe because people perceived as "rightwing" get cancelled, their businesses ruined or imprisoned for saying or doing things leftwing people are at no risk for doing.

Mason G said...

Perhaps, by "best news", he meant "that MAGA has itself a real winner waiting in the wings"?

Lawcruiter said...

I guess that all those commenting favorably should consider themselves as Irredeemably deplorable Nazi garbage?

What a crazy election. What a crazy time

gilbar said...

do YOU know, When this fluoridation stuff started? 1949 NINETEEN FOURTYNINE!
how's THAT fit into your postwar commie comspiracy?

have you EVER (EVER!) seen a russian drink a glass of water? NO WAY IN HELL
Vodka.. That's what your rusian commie drinks

Gerda Sprinchorn said...

The interview is a shock. Joe Rogan asks a question, and Vance just ... answers the question. No hesitation. No random sound bites. No brain lock. He just answers the questions.

Hassayamper said...

It is a CRIME to threaten a US President to get him to do ANYTHING. It's a FELONY.

You seem rather fixated on this idea. I think it greatly depends on the nature of the "threat". If you tell him you're going public with your concerns and will encourage big donors not to support his re-election, that's just politics. If you blackmail him with pictures from Epstein Island or threaten to have him offed by a rogue Secret Service agent, yeah, that becomes a crime.

Hassayamper said...

I bet Walz not only won't do this, he'd be as intrinsically incapable of doing it as Kamala herself. What a pair of doofuses.

tcrosse said...

JD's talents would be wasted presiding over the Senate, cutting ribbons, and attending funerals.

Ampersand said...

Rogan's concerns about being labeled "right wing" are well founded. Being right wing since 1950 has always meant membership in an odd coalition of traditionalists, libertarians, free marketers, and eccentrics. Since the Obama ascendancy, being right wing has also included anyone who refuses to wear the mandatory propaganda goggles being handed out by elite media.

hombre said...

Can you even imagine American politics without Trump dominated by the Cackler? I can and I'm looking at going back to New Zealand. It's not that NZ politicians aren't assholes. It's just that I don't care if they are.

hombre said...

Can you even imagine American politics without Trump dominated by the Cackler? I can and I'm looking at going back to New Zealand. It's not that NZ politicians aren't assholes. It's just that I don't care if they are.

John henry said...

I could never watch the Joe Rogan show. Interviews are just not interesting visually. I can't lose 3 hours watching one.

I can and do listen to 3 hour podcasts.

I download them to my phone using the "Podcast Addict" app.

I downloaded vance and will listen on the plane to Chicago Saturday.

Ditto Scott Adams. Watching him talk for an hour would bore me to tears. Listening is great.

Skeptical Voter said...

Kamala hasn't been exposed to any substantive interviews by real interviewers --period. She may be walking around, but the real Kamala (to the extent that there is a real person behind the Kackler exterior) has never gotten out of the basement.

tcrosse said...

The term "right wing" has been superseded. The current usage is "far right". This applies to anyone who is not a full Progressive.

Mason G said...

"What a pair of doofuses."

Doofii?

Achilles said...

Anyone who doesn't toe the line is transparent to a fascist.

The only person you seem unable to read is yourself.

Cameron said...

I agree John Henry. Alot of these YouTube shows are best just listened to. I listed to Scott Adams each night as I go to sleep as he starts midnight my local time. Rogan is similar. I have zero interest in watching it, but I can put it on to listen to while I do other things or travel. Youtube just becomes an easy method for mass distribution - these things don't really require video and personally I find it much harder to focus on them if you do have video.

MadisonMan said...

What a great discussion about the lack of forgiveness and redemption in the Woke "Religion".

Saint Croix said...

I'm not a druggie but I just wanted to jump in and beg people, please don't snort the mushrooms.

wildswan said...

One of the interesting things about their discussion is that you get an idea of what politics might be like if the far left were out of it. Joe Rogan is on the left but not the crazy left. You have to actually think about what he says because it isn't just crazy talk. For instance, I notice that he thinks that religion is just accepting what you are told. That's why he thinks that the trans movement is a religion - because, in it, people just accept what they are told. Rogan has no idea at all of a Creator who brought you from nothing for a purpose and of a connection to that Creator.

Aggie said...

Speeding up is your friend. 1.8x is no problem with total comprehension. That's 1:40, less than flight time to the island from Chicago, I'm betting.

Sebastian said...

"he's concerned that he's getting classified as right-wing" And as we all know, there's nothing worse than that. At least for people who give any credence to the people doing the classifying.

Leland said...

I don’t think Rogan has been cagey at all. He’s a liberal. He is pointing out, just as Jordan Peterson has, that liberal causes he grew up with are now being dismissed outright as extreme right wing by the party that originally made them an issue. Democrats are opposing free speech. Democrats insist the government can tell you what the government can inject in your body. Democrats want to tell you what to eat. Democrats want to make the blue collar workers pay for the elite college students. This would be heresy to a 1960’s Democrat. Now, it is called extreme right wing.

Original Mike said...

These guys hate wind turbines as much as I do.

n.n said...

Wind turbines or machetes in motion are sanctified as religious rites to climate progress with forward-looking "benefits".

Douger said...

I grew up conservative and then thought I was moderate in middle age. I wanted to be ‘middle of the road’ but now that I am older and I believe the left has lurched into the ditch. Eric Weinstein recently said the Democrat Party is no longer the party he once supported. All of the things he hated about Republicans years ago are now being lived out by the Democrats; censorship, big corporate ‘pharmacy’ corruption , Global war machine (Cheney’s now support Harris?). The science is settled except for boys are girls. Etc+. Today I saw a “Democrats for Trump” sign on my Road. There is hope .

Eva Marie said...

I listened to both the Trump/Rogan interview and the Vance/Rogan interview. Both were excellent. Much more informative than other interviews.
Rogan is the new (and improved) Barbara Walters of media.
Interesting side note: Rogan wore long sleeved shirts (no tattoos showing) for both interviews. Black for Trump. Gray for Vance.

Maynard said...

The term "right wing" has been superseded. The current usage is "far right".

Actually, the current usage is "White Supremacist". For Larry Elder it is "the Black face of White Supremacy" and so on for people of non-White color.

Eva Marie said...

Most interesting (for me) takeaway from the Trump interview:
Trump ‘s (implied) inspiration from people who excel at what they do. He observes and learns.
Most interesting (for me) takeaway from the Vance interview:
Vance made the observation that there’s no room for forgiveness in the secular liberal religions.

Jupiter said...

"they're connecting fitness with a right wing idea"
When the government is trying to help its rich friends to destroy your health, fitness is a right-wing idea.

who-knew said...

I knew nothing of J D Vance except that he'd written a book that made a splash and I hadn't read. I started hearing him talk when he got into politics and I've been impressed. The excerpts of his Rogan interview have been uniformly good and reinforce my high opinion of him. If he's the future of the GOP, I'm in.

Iman said...

Ouch.

effinayright said...

You keep saying this.

How many times do you have to be whacked on the snout with a rolled-up newspaper to be set straight:

You cannot name the "felony" you cite. A threat to take a legal action against a POTUS is NOT a "felony".

Can you employ your last working ganglia and neurons around those concepts?

Try this: The House threatens to impeach a POTUS. Is that a "threat"? Yes. Is it lawful? Yes.

Can the House threaten to remove funding for govt-owned presidential dachas like Camp David? Yes, it can.

Is threatening to invoke the 25th if Biden doesn't drop out as a a *candidate* for FUTURE office ----something not remotely a "presidential power" or perogative---legal? YES.

So cut the crap.


walter said...

Yeah.. Those moms for Trump are so misguided. Somehow they got the idea that the current Dem offerings won't truly benefit them or the country. It's "bananas". Sprezzy holding tight to the Dem narrative. He really wants to view himself as part of the good team...while he collects fancy cars.

Aggie said...

They have seen your 'basement' and raised you an 'unlikable candidate with no votes or even notable achievements'. Do you call?

Truly remarkable, when you think about it, that a Presidential Campaign is being conducted using a candidate that nobody chose except for the Presidential Candidate from last time.

Aggie said...

Rogan is like any businessman that uses a platform predicated on unregulated Free Speech. He can easily see that a change in the political environment could wreak devastation to his business, and he has, as proof, the attacks on other, similar institutions that stepped over a perceived line into an informally-declared forbidden area. The offers to Trump, Harris, and Vance and maybe even Tampon Tim - who knows? - are purely defensive. And maybe not a little bit based on patriotic principle....

Drago said...

LOL

Sprezzy is beginning to make the LLR-democratical Rich, the gaslighting Harry Sisson of Althouse blog, look like a truth-teller by comparison!

Drago said...

Dunning-Kruger on Full Parade.

bagoh20 said...

Rogan is still connected to the L.A. entertainment world by friendships, and that means his political opinion is not free. It comes with costs and risks. He could also be confused by the Trump and woke phenomena, which really erase that whole liberal/conservative landscape of the past. It's great to be alive watching such a sea change.

bagoh20 said...

TRUMP on Kamala: "There are some people who thrive under pressure, and there are some people who crack under pressure. She's a cracker." That's a CIC: Comedian In Chief.

bagoh20 said...

Trump is the first candidate I can remember who picked a VP better than himself. That's confidence.

bagoh20 said...

We already elected a president that can't talk or make sense. Are we dumb enough to do it twice in a row? Millions are.

Original Mike said...

Tat was excellent.

Original Mike said...

That

walter said...

Nice. You could house a lot of "migrants". Get on it.

Aggie said...

Just noting, this is the second time I've seen Rogan in a dress shirt.

walter said...

Where did our Sprezzy go?

glacial erratic said...

We now have been told that being on time, politeness, hiking, returning grocery carts, meritocracy, Western civilization, and not jaywalking are all racist.

Maybe we need to start keeping a list of all the things that are now "conservative".

I'll start. From just what I've heard in the last month, being conservative (or "far-right") means liking attractive women, being concerned above food additives, promoting fitness, and not liking video games with characters showing mastectomy scars (yes, that's a real thing).

Of course, a Venn diagram showing " racist" and "conservative", would probably have a pretty big overlap. At least, according to the NYT.