১৭ অক্টোবর, ২০২৪

"Obama is the last Democrat who won Wisconsin with more than 50 percent of the vote...."

"It’s Obama who has the potential to persuade Wisconsin voters.... Obama gets Wisconsin. He has always maintained a strategic sense about how to campaign in the state.... In 2008 and 2012, he did the usual outreach to urban voters in Milwaukee and Madison. But he also paid attention to smaller cities, such as Green Bay, Racine, Kenosha, Janesville, Wausau, La Crosse, and Eau Claire, where he showed up and spoke, a lot, about renewing manufacturing and increasing support for rural regions of the state. He also talked about the cost of bloated military budgets and unnecessary wars.... [I]t would be wise for [Kamala Harris] to recognize that a stronger stance in favor of a ceasefire in Gaza—and for restrictions on US military aid to Israel—would attract far more support in Wisconsin than an appearance with a neoconservative militarist like Liz Cheney....."

Writes John Nichols, in "Recipe for a Harris Win: More Obama, Less Cheney/Embracing right-wing Republicans won’t excite undecided voters. Associating with a popular Democrat who understands battleground states like Wisconsin will" (The Nation).

ADDED: Here's something Obama put up 45 minutes ago, making his pitch for Kamala Harris:

ADDED: I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself." Democrats say it over and over, but I don't see it at all. 

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Michael Fitzgerald বলেছেন...

Still trying to win the male vote by parading Democrat Party paragons of masculinity Tampon Tim, Bitch-Slapper Emhoff, and macho man Moobs Obama.

rehajm বলেছেন...

They’re gonna cook Wisconsin so dun matter…and as I mentioned, since when is Obama anything but a campaign cooler? Not that long ago candidates told him to stay away?

rehajm বলেছেন...

Black guys aren’t going to vote Kamala because Obama shows up…

Dixcus বলেছেন...

"Kamala has spent her life fighting on behalf of people who need a voice and a chance ..."

LOLOLOLO

Kamala Harris spent half her life putting black men in jail for smoking weed when she wasn't sucking Willie Brown's cock.

The balls on this broad.

Dixcus বলেছেন...

If Donald Trump only cared about himself, on January 6, he would have publiclly burned his US passport and announced that he was leaving the corrupt United States for another country ... leaving us all behind to deal with this wreckage of a country.

He's a billionaire. He could be laying around on a beach with his wife all the time watching the country burn to the ground if he didn't care about America and Americans.

The guy I just described is named Joe Biden and I cannot wait to piss on his grave.

Peachy বলেছেন...

He's wearing the same funeral suit and tie.

Dixcus বলেছেন...

Have you noticed that a dead body washed up on Barack Obama's lawn and not a single investigation was begun of that death. Only a local cover-up along the lines of when Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne?

loudogblog বলেছেন...
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Dixcus বলেছেন...

He should keep that pressed. He's going to be spending a LOT of time at funerals in the next few years.

Big Mike বলেছেন...

I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself."

i understand it perfectly well -- it's a bare-faced lie.

loudogblog বলেছেন...

"a neoconservative militarist like Liz Cheney"

He's right on this point. The Democrats have become the new neocons who are in favor of endless wars because it powers the economic machine that provides support to their party. (The industrial military complex)

He's wrong about everything else. Obama is obviously not in the Harris camp and he never will be. Harris can never be Obama. She just isn't skilled enough.

The American people don't want far-left candidates now. (And most Americans support what Israel is currently doing to Hamas.) Most Americans want economic stability, low inflation, low crime, zero illegal immigration, an emphasis on personal responsibility and far-left extremism (and public expressions of personal sexual fetishes) out of their faces.

donald বলেছেন...

That is 1000 percent correct.

Dixcus বলেছেন...

A very astute comment. Obama is in the Chicago Mafia wing of the Democrat Party ... Harris is in the California wing with Pelosi/Newsome. Biden represents the old New England Mafia and was brought in to represent Southern racists when Obama was put at the top of the ticket. His usefullness is over and he's been cast aside by the California wing and only endorsed Harris because, after all, he's a Ku Klux Klan style racist and opposes ANYTHING Obama does.

Narayanan বলেছেন...

will ''watering burial plot'' be satisfactory?

Dixcus বলেছেন...

There are about 3 black guys who live in Wisconsin and they're going to be made very busy on election day.

donald বলেছেন...

I’m in Salem Oregontoday looking at a job. I just met up with my Navy buddy Stan who looks like Bigfoot, is a good musician, and ended up with a psychopath pink pussy hatted shrew. We have spoken for four years till today. I walked in his house and he was celebrating the assassination of sinwar. Like he is joyous about it. I kinda pointed out I wasn’t into the global war thing.

Mary Beth বলেছেন...

he showed up and spoke, a lot, about renewing manufacturing and increasing support for rural regions of the state.

Did he do anything about it other than talk?

loudogblog বলেছেন...

About the clip you added with Obama: This has all the crackle of Confederate money. People don't want "passion and connecting" from a presidential candidate, they want a competent leader who will create economic stability and make intelligent choices. Obama is basically telling all the intelligent people not to vote for Harris.

Duke Dan বলেছেন...

Not the only thing democrats lie about.

Original Mike বলেছেন...

" I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself." Democrats say it over and over, but I don't see it at all. "

They think if they keep saying it, it will become impressed upon people's brains.
They use this tactic a lot.

It's demonstrably bullshit. Why in the world would he leave a cushy life, and have haters trying to murder him, if all he cared about is himself? His love of country is palpable.

BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...

No words about his mother or grandparents who lifted him out of the Madrassa? He's trying to unite the AWFULS? Self serving? He wrote the book!

BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...

Always be sincere Barry, whether you mean it or not.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne বলেছেন...

If he only cared about himself he'd have declared himself King Donald I of America back in 2016.

Mason G বলেছেন...

Israelis killing one of the leaders of the organization who attacked them is not really a global war thing, is it?

Tina Trent বলেছেন...

Yeah. I remember when my brother was in hospice. Some 30 scumbag Venezuelans, obviously illegal, making gang signs, with tattoos and a dying grandmother, stripped the hospice of the coffee machines, teabags, coffee, and anything else than wasn't nailed down for the comfort of the client families.

This is our fucking future. Ask Kamala about that. Inga, was that like the death of your son?

I locked myself in my brother's room to avoid being robbed as he died. I couldn't even get a cup of tea. You Democrats are the scum of the earth. You deserve to experience what I experienced, and soon I hope you will.

Rabel বলেছেন...

"only cares about himself"

"Everything's about him."

From Barack Obama. It's just too much.

rhhardin বলেছেন...

Only caring about yourself is the alternative to universal empathy.

Butkus51 বলেছেন...

We used to vacation in Wisconsin often. Obama is not Wisconsin.

rhhardin বলেছেন...

Trump is in the hospitality industry. When you're in the room with him, you're the most important person in the room.

Lawrence Person বলেছেন...

Are we suppose to believe that there are a mass of non-voters in Wisconsin that hate Jews who haven't already joined the Democratic Party that will magically show up at the polls due to cutting off aid to Israel?

PB বলেছেন...

I lost my plan, lost my doctor and my premiums sky rocketed along with my deductible. So GFY Barry.

TaeJohnDo বলেছেন...

Every time I see a man shilling for kamala, I can't help but wonder if she sucked him off to get him to speak good of her. Of course, in this case, she would have had tampon tim to do it for her...

Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

If he only cared about himself, he wouldn't still be in it. I mean, I knew they would try to stop him, but I never imagined how hard.

Sebastian বলেছেন...

"I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself.""

Why? I mean, the partciular claim is absurd, but no more than any of their other claims. This one vilifies him by portraying him as a self-serving narcissist. OK. So how is that different, from the autocrat, destroyer of democracy, etc. etc?

"Democrats say it over and over, but I don't see it at all."

Which is good. But repetition has its uses and many people see what they've been told. Dems are better at the propaganda game, and of course have far more outlets to spread the word.

rehajm বলেছেন...

How can we just let you eat your waffle if you won’t go away?

narciso বলেছেন...

https://x.com/atensnut/status/1847054604585914857

Wa St Blogger বলেছেন...

I can say with strong certainty that the people going for the brass ring are in it for themselves. They want the title, the prestige, and the lucrative remuneration that comes after. Almost no one dopes it for the good of the country. Does not mean they don't want something good for the country, but they make compromise after compromise to get to the top, which means that their ethics are crap. It's an elite club that almost requires narcissism to run the gauntlet to win. Don't give me any crap about a self-sacrifice and altruism. Might have been true many years ago, but not today.

With Trump, at least he's not in it for the money.

mccullough বলেছেন...

Men don’t like Obama.

mccullough বলেছেন...

Men don’t like Obama.

rhhardin বলেছেন...

"I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself.""

You're not a female 18-34yo.
Jordan Peterson - What Divides Us Is Deeper Than Politics

credits TicTok

rhhardin বলেছেন...

From 2008 every Obama rally was identified as taking place in an estrogen cloud.

Iman বলেছেন...

Barcky “Momjeans” Obama… flailing about as he sees his 4th term chances dissipating in a noxious cloud of testy - but fiery - bullshit.

Prof. M. Drout বলেছেন...

The "...only cares about himself" meme is a leftover from 2016 that didn't really resonate then but at least played on people's fears: Was this carnival barker just running for President for the attention? Was it all an elaborate scam? Did Trump have a behind-the-scenes deal with Hilary Clinton?
A lot of people--myself included--were very skeptical of Trump at the beginning for exactly this reason. We thought he might pull the rug out from under his supporters like Ross Perot did.
But Trump's winning in 2016 and his subsequent actions show that he actually wasn't out for his own enrichment. Quite the opposite: he has lost lots of money compared to what he could have had by playing golf, not to mention the threats to his freedom and, now, the attempts on his life.

I continue to be amazed by the rhetorical ineptitude of the anti-Trump people. They keep replaying the same memes that didn't work in 2016: just the other night a friend on FB was going crazy about the "made fun of disabled reporter," "called troops suckers," and "fine people on both sides" tropes. Setting aside the the third of these is definitely false, and the other two are more than questionable, if Trump is the most fascistic fascist who ever fasced, why can't anyone come up with a couple objectively horrible things he did in office?* Or why doesn't anybody make a case against some specific policies? Why is it always the same few purely emotional (and probably fake) things from 6-8 years ago?

I don't believe it is because Trump has been perfect since then (no human could be), but I don't know what the explanation for this bizarre behavior is, either. If it didn't work then, why would it work now?

*I guess January 6 is one thing more recent--though that was still almost 4 years ago. Maybe that resonates with some people: it's impossible to know, though, because it's impossible to know who actually believes that Reichstag Fire event was an actual attempt to overthrow the government and who is just pretending that they believe it was an actual attempt to overthrow the government in order to score rhetorical points ("Hey guys! Let's overthrow the government with no weapons! That'll work!")

Mason G বলেছেন...
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Michael Fitzgerald বলেছেন...

Dixcus
"Have you noticed that a dead body washed up on Barack Obama's lawn and not a single investigation was begun of that death. Only a local cover-up along the lines of when Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechne?"
Yeah, brother, it's good to be in the mob when the mob owns the press and police.

Iconochasm বলেছেন...

" I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself." Democrats say it over and over, but I don't see it at all. "

Because the Democrat pitch is that they care. They care so much. Their hearts bleed with the caring. Don't ask them how to translate that caring into tangible benefits to the subjects of the caring, and certainly don't ask about how their plans have worked in the past. Just trust that they care, not like those bad other people in the outgroup, who do not care.

Michael Fitzgerald বলেছেন...

Wow, the place is packed! Must be 150 people there.

boatbuilder বলেছেন...

Comfort and safety is the explanation, Prof. It takes them to their safe place.
The alternative is to admit that they were and are wrong, on a fundamental level. That is a very hard thing to do-- especially hard when the in-group keeps repeating that the other side is evil and bad, and you are on the side of good.

Aggie বলেছেন...

The 'Hail Mary' video makes the best sense if Obama stands to lose something, and lose big.

He has personal investments in the election that only pay out if Kamala wins. He's heavily vested into his fourth term.

Where is Valerie Jarrett?
Where is Samantha Powers?
Who else from his White House administrative staff still has a position in the current administration?
What do the visitor logs show?

Tortillapete বলেছেন...

Real men don't, but Tampon Tim adores him...

Lazarus বলেছেন...

Some recipe. Obama had over 4 years to haunt the highways and byways Wisconsin. Harris only had 4 months -- one month now -- to make those connections. Obama could craft a presidency that didn't antagonize Middle America more than he thought necessary. Harris is saddled with Biden's disastrous policies. Harris may still carry Wisconsin, but she's not going to be able to follow Obama's example. Obama himself isn't the Wonder Boy he was a decade ago.

Harris isn't going to pick up many votes calling for restrictions on US aid to Israel. The support she takes away from Stein and West, she loses among other voters. Few votes are going to depend on a candidate's stance on Gaza or Ukraine. Few voters will believe Harris if she talks about revitalizing rural America and bringing jobs back. Biden did little to help them and Harris's pitch isn't to farmers and small-town Americans. But hey, didn't Obama himself say that he had no magic wand to bring jobs back? I'm not sure that he really did tailor his message to rural or working-class audiences. I'm also not sure that he talked that much about peace. I suspect he spoke in the same generalities that he used in other parts of the country.
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Trump likes to talk in terms of winners and losers. Democrats take that to mean that he shows no pity for the "losers," but he's been rather generous with his time and money and seems able to reach out to all kinds of people. The winners and losers talk isn't something unique to Donald Trump by any means and it doesn't mean he's contemptuous of people who are going through hard times.

Dr.Bunkypotatohead বলেছেন...

Modern democrats don't argue policy with their opponents, they hurl insults. Trump is a racist, a fascist, an authoritarian. "He only cares about himself" is just the latest insult.

wendybar বলেছেন...

Old girly boy Barry needs to take a good long look in the mirror.

Breezy বলেছেন...

“I have never understood the argument that Trump "only cares about himself."”

Recently Mark Cuban followed this up with the reasoning, something like you can buddy up with Trump, do things for him but when you ask for something he’ll not do things for you. He gave no further details. So it sounds like people may have personal history that make them say this. They never give an actual example of why they think this or when he’s behaved that way toward us, the everyday people. I agree with others, no one who is only out for themselves would put themselves in such jeopardy for his country.

Tina Trent বলেছেন...

After college, Obama became an ACORN like I did (I for one day before I realized they were Maoist recruiters) and tried to "organize" and "help" the Chicago steel industry. What did he actually do? Get laughed at by steelworkers who had shat their own pot with outrageous union demands, shoddy work, and relentless absentees and no-show padding. Typical union bullshit. After five minutes of that, he spent the rest of his time making useful political contacts with the elite commies of Chicago. Of course he lies about this. That's the sum total he knows about the trades class. He did work with that connected pedophile Father Phleger at that time.

Rocco বলেছেন...

Maybe Kamala is just not Obama. Joe Biden once called Obama an “articulate, bright, clean African American guy”. Kamala?

Articulate - No, as countless unburdened examples show.
Bright - Nope, she always appears to have screen saver face.
Clean - It Depends upon what Joe meant by this. If he meant what I’m guessing, this could apply to most mainstream politicians of any race.
African American Guy - no.

Rocco বলেছেন...
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Tina Trent বলেছেন...

And like PB, Obamacare made my health insurance premiums quadruple in the first two years, raised my deductible to 9K, and I lost my GP of 25 years, who, ironically, I guess, if I actually cared, was Mexican and gay. Best doctor I ever had. But we self-employed workplace drones aren't human to them. They/you literally want us dead.

Though chronically ill, I had to drop insurance for Medishare, a cost-sharing plan grandfathered in, but not really insurance. I have to admit it was so cheap that, most years, with cash rates, stand-alone testing centers, and negotiated costs, brought me about even, at great personal stress. But not all years, and after a lifetime of always having insurance at great cost, and being responsible, I deprive myself of needed care regularly and live in terror of losing everything.

All of you whose cushy public employee, medicaid and medicare programs we subsidize but can't access -- and we do subsidize them ( the average medicare recipient burns through everything they contributed, adjusted for inflation, in five years) are literal vampires personally responsible for grabbing our lifeboats. Obama can't appeal to us, and you're too stupid and lazy and immoral to sit down and figure out what you did to us. Boomers.

michaele বলেছেন...

Did Obama always do the hand gestures at upper chest level or is he emulating Kamala as a subtle reinforcer..."see, she's not weird, I do it, too". At least he didn't make his voice nasal and laugh inanely.

Danno বলেছেন...

Dixcus, Milwaukee is almost 39 percent black. Therefore, quite a number of this cohort would be voting age men. That's a tad more than 3

Lazarus বলেছেন...

If Harris wants a recipe to win in Wisconsin, she's not going to find it in the Nation.

Some of this "Trump only cares about himself" idea goes back to the USFL in the 80s. Donald Trump did seem more concerned with saving his investment (and getting his team into the NFL if he could) than with saving the league. Politicians, for all their faults, do have to cooperate with each other more than that, but if we were all judged by who we were 40 years ago and what we said and did back then who would escape whipping?

Curious George বলেছেন...

Madison Wisconsin is.

who-knew বলেছেন...

"They want the title, the prestige, and the lucrative remuneration that comes after ...they make compromise after compromise to get to the top" I'm not sure any of this applies to Trump. He didn't rise to the top of politics the usual way and always had enough money and prestige of his own. He may have compromsed too much as President but there wasn't much of it on his way to the top.

Mason G বলেছেন...

From National Archives:

"On July 30, 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Medicare and Medicaid Act, also known as the Social Security Amendments of 1965, into law. It established Medicare, a health insurance program for the elderly, and Medicaid, a health insurance program for people with limited income."

The first year boomers were eligible to vote was 1967.

Just sayin'.

PM বলেছেন...

Well, part of her life in SF was trying to put her current target market in jail, so there's that.

Joanne Jacobs বলেছেন...

Tim Walz said his 90-year-old mother has to wait to make sure her Social Security is in her account before she buys food, and Donald Trump doesn't know what that's like. Most of the response is: Why aren't you helping your mother pay the bills? We regular folks help our elderly mothers.