"You know what he says he'll do? Terminate the Constitution United States. Let me remind folks: You know what's in the Constitution of United States? The Fourth Amendment, which protects you against unreasonable searches and seizures, the Fifth Amendment, the Sixth Amendment, the Fourteenth Amendment. And he's going to terminate the Constitution of the United States? Which in most of those amendments, one thing or another, was about a movement spurred by black people to ensure that we would be equally protected under the law. Come on."
The closest I can come to a basis for making this broad claim is his use of "termination" and "Constitution" in a narrow context, back in 2020:
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote [on Truth Social]. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 250 of 250She thinks black people are stupid.
It isn't just black people. Look no further than the leftists on this board.
If and when Joe Biden deploys the U.S Army and Marines to “police” the 2024 election, I would pray Americans would have constitutional objections instead of rolling over and saying ‘have your way.’
Tina, did I ask you to show me some special consideration because my son died? No. Do you expect me to base my comments and opinions based on your previous kindness? I didn’t expect or ask for it. If your kindness was based on anything but sincerity, please don’t speak to me of my son’s passing again and just be honest and say what’s on your mind. Don’t hold my son’s death and any sympathy you felt as some cudgel to keep me from expressing my opinions. Actually you bringing up my son several times now was disconcerting and unwelcome.
"Eisenhower was probably on stronger ground than GHWB since he was enforcing Federal Civil Rights laws."
They were on exactly the same ground, as the Insurrection Act authorizes the governor of a state to request that the President invoke it in order to quell unrest, and Pete Wilson did so.
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Ah yes, the never ending claims from leftists that everyone else is "lying." I think for a leftist, the definition of a lie is "disagreeing with me, a leftist."
After all, according to Cook and the rest of the left, truth is whatever leftists say it is. So disagreeing with that must, of course, be a lie.
The rest of us define truth something like "Things as they really were, things as they really are, and things as they really will be." It's absolutely not defined as "Whatever a leftist says is true!"
"What you are doing, Freder, is taking something he said generally and in the heat of the moment and applying to it whatever meaning you wish to apply."
This is what they do with their politicians- ignore what they say and instead, imagine that they will do whatever each individual idiot Democrat wants them to.
I had exactly the same response to Hillary Clinton’s and John Kerry’s wet dreams of suspending the First Amendment. You’re obviously not used to running into people with fixed principles.
"CNBC is reporting that Harris is proposing a $20 billion plan to give up to $20,000 in forgivable loans to 1 million black male entrepreneurs."
"Forgivable loans"? WTF are those? Anything like gifts? Or bribes?
Trump says that if Harris is elected, migrants will walk into your kitchen and slit your throat:
You mean like they're doing right now?
John. We'd be a pretty damn useless militia without weapons.
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“In the really, really old days the Masters would send out slave patrols to bring them back to the Plantation. Just a suggestion for Kamala.”
I’m sure her several times grandfather might have some tips.
Do you have a more recent quote - Fred?
Freder - known liars in the MSM are not good sources.
They hang people from bridges. In batches. They mutilate and behead those who resist. This is in Mexico.
The Mexicans are relatively civilized.
John Lott (and also Mary Rosh) is hardly a reputable source.
Instead of questioning the source, why don't you - oh, I don't know - actually look at the numbers? They've changed.
Didn’t watch the interview but read most of the comments on his website.
They were massively and overwhelmingly negative towards Harris.
When people threaten to make mischief with the Constitution: I believe them. But you do you.
If he believes the president has this power: don't you want to know precisely when and how he can exercise it? If he gets "convinced" the election is "stolen" can he unilaterally terminate the constitution to "correct" the errors?
This belief and the Cheseboro Memo are the reasons that I will never vote for Trump. I care less about "grab 'em by the pussy" I care deeply about "terminate the Constitution."
The Dems have no love for the Constitution. Trump is no better on this issue.
Kamala Harris up by 5 in new Marist national poll.
And this goes to show just how clueless you are about politics. The poll (D+7) is a disaster for Harris when you break it down. Go ahead. Look at the actual poll.
ChrisC said..."In TV ads in Georgia she is claiming - Trump wants a national sales tax - he doesn't. Trump was to end Social Security - he doesn't. Trump wants to ban abortion - he doesn't."
These ARE claims Harris has made, I've heard them myself. And they are whoppers. Please provide Trump lies of this magnitude, Robert. I'm betting you can't.
Lefties equate Harris lying about ending Social Security with Trump exaggerating his crowd size. They ain't the same thing.
Robert Cooke said…"I don't if that's true, but, if so, she'll have a hard time keeping up with Trump's unhinged free-association lying."
ChrisC said..."In TV ads in Georgia she is claiming - Trump wants a national sales tax - he doesn't. Trump was to end Social Security - he doesn't. Trump wants to ban abortion - he doesn't."
These ARE claims Harris has made, I've heard them myself. And they are whoppers. Please provide Trump lies of this magnitude, Robert. I'm betting you can't.
Lefties equate Harris lying about ending Social Security with Trump exaggerating his crowd size. They ain't the same thing.
They just realized the problem and made the offer for "all races" which means none.
Kamala Harris believes American history is just White mobs massacring Black people and Native Americans all the time and, very rarely, Asians and Latinos. That's it. Nothing else matters.
Let’s set aside these claims of fascism, dictatorship, dismantling the constitution. The constitution either lives in our individual hearts and minds or it doesn’t. As citizens it is our duty to trust but verify our politicians.
Let’s also assume that whether we’re Democrats or Republicans we will all make sure that no one’s rights get trampled on.
With that in mind, the question becomes who will make a better leader for our country.
My issue with Kamala Harris is this: We really won’t know who is making her decisions. If she isn’t doing press conferences while she’s asking for our vote, chances are nil that she will be doing them after she’s elected.
With Trump, we know that the buck really does stop with him.
This is why I’m voting for Trump:
1. Decrease in illegal immigration
2. Establishment of a coherent immigration policy
An additional advantage to Trump as President is a press that is interested in questioning everything he does, rather than a lap dog press that Kamala Harris would face.
There are of course many other reasons to vote Trump, but ask yourselves which candidate will put a priority on American interests vis a vis immigration policy.
For those of you whose most important issue is abortion rights, consider this. We women have enough votes to decide this issue in every state. Trump has taken himself out of the abortion equation.
Trump/Vance 2024
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote [on Truth Social]. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
He was talking about how the election FRAUD was terminating the 'rules, regulations...' not Trump terminating them... duh.
If we're looking for lies let's take a look at Rachel Maddow. Two nights ago she says Steve Bannon is trying to kill the US dollar. As evidence she sights a collection of pamphlets he co wrote under the umbrella 'The End of the Dollar'. If she or ANY of her staff bothered to read the material it's the EXACT OPPOSITE of what RM says. EXACT OPPOSITE. He's not rooting for the end of the dollar - what American would? He's saying how to fix it.
And a few months ago I recall Joe Scarborough saying Trump is mocking mothers who have lost their child or children to illegal drugs. MOCKING GRIEVING MOTHERS.
These two lies are quite distinctive in that NOBODY would actually say either of these things. Not Bannon, not Trump, not Biden, not Harris. NO POLITICIAN would say or imply this. And yet Maddow and Scarborough both think their viewers are too stupid to realize this. And on this I agree, as the lefties here have proven time and time again that they lack basic reasoning abilities.
I'm so old I remember when Trump wanted to eliminate p*rn.
About that Marist Poll:
Party Identification as percentage of likely voters polled:
Democrat 40%
Republican 33%
Independent 26%
Get that, they over sampled Democrats by 7% and show Harris with a 5% lead. That is a bit off from national trends. Then there is the data that Drago notes, in which Independent's overwhelmingly side with Trump (although I see +9).
It does have the effect of bumping up the national polling average for Harris. Which is great, because it will motivate the Trump voters to get out and vote.
First porn, now this? What's next, rounding up non-white people and putting them in cages?
I did a search to see if Rachel Maddow talked about Harris proposal to tax unrealized capital gains, I didn't see anything. If she's looking for someone who wants to destroy our economy, Maddow would be talking about this proposal.
The constitution is only as good as the men and women entrusted to uphold it.
I had to go back to the beginning of this thread. DO YOU REMEMBER ?
No. Trump did NOT say that he would terminate the Constitution.
We are ALL AMERICANS. Sometimes our elected leaders lead us into a swamp. Then, we look for new leaders out of the swamp.
Hasn't the Biden-Whats-Her_Name administration led us as far as we need to go into the swamp?
"He was talking about how the election FRAUD was terminating the 'rules, regulations...' not Trump terminating them... duh."
Democrats: "Only parse Trump's words when you can use the results to condemn him. Otherwise, just make up whatever shit you need to."
Wow that was a train wreck
if these comments are really about her shes toast with blacks.
Not an answer did Harris give. A true fustercluck.
It's fairly obvious what Trump meant: that fraudulent elections enable de facto abolition of the Constitution by the political faction that steals elections.
BTW, the only constitutional amendments connected with equal rights for blacks are the 13th, 14th, 15th, and 24th. That's 4 out of 27, not most, as Harris claims.
Rocco--you're not going to persuade anyone by playing Rush. Trust me on this. If you told me that I would never have to hear another Rush song ever again if I voted for Kamala....well, I probably wouldn't, but it would get serious consideration.
Oak Bluffs on the Vineyard is a lovely town that has been a "haven" for African-American "elites" for over a century.
But neither they nor the rest of the elites who 'summer' there wanted anything to do with the illegal immigrants they are quite happy to foist on those benighted redneck states along the border.
They’ll show you who they really are.
Next!
LOL
"This belief and the Cheseboro Memo are the reasons that I will never vote for Trump."
How Trump lost me and why I see no difference between him and marxists....
Too funny.
Who imagines that the Democrats need a factual basis for fearmongering? Every election, they tell the old ladies that the Republicans are going to blow up Social Security, the gays that they'll be shipped off to concentration camps in Utah, and unmarried women that their woohoo's will be superglued shut. And they're believed!
Yup.
Paul--that is certainly the reading that I took it as, although I didn't dig very deep, because it struck me mainly as Trump venting about what happened to him.
Has anyone asked Trump what he meant?
There is no joy in Mudville.
TRUMP "What I said was that when there is 'MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,' as has been irrefutably proven in the 2020 Presidential Election, steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG," Trump added. "Only FOOLS would disagree with that and accept STOLEN ELECTIONS. MAGA!"
"IRREFUTABLY PROVEN " WRONG HUMPTY not proven by 60 courts ,his own administration its all lies..
Christie's argument does not spell out the context of Trump's claim, and paraphrases the former president's words. Christie said Trump had said it is okay to suspend the Constitution.
Trump had raised the notion of "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution." Termination rather than suspension.
While Trump chose not to appear along Christie and his other 2024 candidates, saying his lead in the polls justified his absence, he did speak to former Fox News host Tucker Carlson in an interview posted on X, formerly Twitter, on Wednesday.
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True.
In December 2022, while continuing to push the false claim that he lost the 2020 election due to widespread voter fraud, Trump suggested the "termination of all rules...even those found in the Constitution" was merited.
Well, she did go on Fox, for 15 minutes, and had a major disaster.
Like how Dwight Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard and sent in the 101st Airborne to enforce a court order desegregating the Little Rock Schools? Because that was an awesome flex.
Well maybe Trump can sue Harris for libel.
I don't think Trump actually shot anybody on Fifth Avenue. It's foolish for him to shoot himself in the foot with the things he keeps saying, but his opponents also look foolish for seizing on his jests and taking them literally.
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