October 10, 2024

"I talk to anybody. I always call it my poll. People jokingly tell me you know that Trump will speak with anybody. And I do."

"I speak to the construction workers and the cabdrivers, and those are the people I get along with best anyway in many respects. I speak to everybody.... You’ve got to know your audience, and by the way, for some people, be a killer, for some people, be all candy. For some people, different. For some people, both."

Said Donald Trump in 1989, talking to Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, in "A lost Trump interview comes back to life/The yet-to-be-president holds forth on strength, friendship, dealmaking, public service and building violations" (WaPo)(free-access link, so you can read it all and click on the recordings).

Woodward — who's pushing his new book from which this is an excerpt — exclaims "What a remarkable time capsule, a full psychological study of a man, then a 42-year-old Manhattan real estate king."

I think Trump comes across very positively, so thanks to The Washington Post for making this available.

Here's one more Trump quote, short and sweet: "I believe in having great friends and great enemies."

Great enemies. That's so funny — makes me think of Batman, James Bond — and Trump does have great enemies. Putin. Pelosi. Who else? The big categories: establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats. But who are the individuals? Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris really aren't that great, as enemies... or even opponents. He needs someone he can really go big with.

Putin is big, and yet he can't go big with Putin. He has to be trickier, tricky enough that people would say Putin is his great friend, not his great enemy. But there's the idea: "for some people, be a killer, for some people, be all candy.... For some people, both."

Here's the commission-earned link for Woodward's book: "War."

83 comments:

Michael K said...

I leave Woodward alone so the lefties can exult at his words.

Kate said...

Hillary was a great enemy.

Kamala, bless her heart, needs to up her game.

Iman said...

Woodward is well past his sell-by date.

Ann Althouse said...

(Thanks for the typo alert. Fixed. Alert deleted.)

Aggie said...

Woodward only thinks he's great.

mccullough said...

Trump doesn’t have any friends or any enemies except for the faceless Deep State.

gilbar said...

Woodward — who's pushing his new book

really.. All you need to know

Political Junkie said...

Nice quotes by Trump. I was in Italy in Spring 1988 on a high basketball "all star" trip. 2 books I had with me were Art of the Deal and A Fool and His Money. Enjoyed them both.

n.n said...

Trump is the dark knight...

Freder Frederson said...

Trump does have great enemies. Putin.

Putin?! Are you serious? What has Trump done or said about Putin that makes you believe he is Trump's enemy?

Freder Frederson said...

So when do you think the last time Trump actually took a taxi? All this quote proves is that Trump was spewing bullshit even back then.

Mikey NTH said...

I have said that Donald Trump would talk to a fire hydrant if that was all that was available. Good to see that assessment confirmed.

n.n said...

Trump is the People's man.

Hassayamper said...

George Soros will do just fine for a Bond-villain antagonist. I pray for Trump to destroy him like Rome destroyed Carthage.

NC William said...
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NC William said...

He put sanctions on Russia and killed all his troops in Syria.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne said...

I speak to the construction workers and the cabdrivers, and those are the people I get along with best anyway in many respects. I speak to everybody....

That's one of the reasons the left hates him so much. None of them can do that. Trump is an old-school elite, he's a wealthy man who actually employs people and didn't get his elite status via credentialism or politics. Elon Musk is very much the same.

Bruce Hayden said...

Trump really does talk to anyone and everyone. Last month, he had campaign events in Las Vegas, and, of course, stayed at his hotel there. For us, it was a zoo, with a lot of Secret Service, LVMPD, and hotel security everywhere. Couple days later, was talking to a woman who worked in the Trump Store (where you can buy anything Trump you might want). Apparently, that night that he was in town, he wandered into the store about closing time, and talked with her for better than a half hour. That’s just what he does.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Digging up a quote from 35 years ago to try to make Trump seem as lightweight and deceitful as Kackala. The Good Guys are getting desperate.

Biff said...

It really is amazing how Trump's popularity has been memory-holed. I lived in Manhattan in 1989. It is no exaggeration to say that Trump was a beloved public figure in NYC back then.

Ralph L said...

BoJo would never lie to you:
Johnson on Trump and Putin

Yancey Ward said...

Trump the Gregarian.

Yancey Ward said...

I would wager he has taken a taxi in the last 20 years but not in the last 9 (security issues).

Yancey Ward said...

Cue up Freder who will ask for proof that this actually happened and will call it bullshit.

Michael said...

Trump's greatest enemies are domestic, not foreign. Pelosi for sure. Add in Clapper and Brennan as the faces of the Intel community. No one in the media, as they took Trump on and are now weaker than in '16.

Christopher B said...

The quote is from 1989, before you and your ilk have spent over a decade demonizing him. It also predates his TV shows. Before that he was just another, though quite wealthy, guy. There are plenty of those in Manhattan.

Lazarus said...

American presidents don't come clean about how tense their relationships can be with allies and how cordial they may be with tyrants or enemies.

Hillary Clinton never really came clean about how much her quarrel with Putin was related to national concerns and how much was personal. Trump was not softer on Putin than Biden or Obama or Bush were, but he lacked the personal animus that HRC had and didn't unnecessarily poke the bear.

cubanbob said...

If Boris Johnson had Trump's policies and executed them well, he would PM today. If Trump spoke like Boris Johnson he would be president today. I only hope the American electorate votes wisely from the top of the ballot to the bottom. To reverse the course of our decline, the Democrats need to be so badly defeated that they get rid of the Woke/Progressive/Communist elements of their party. Not that long ago, Trump's policies were Democrat policies. Ponder that. The UK Tories are as left as our Democrats. Johnson governed left by our standards. The British Labor party is where our Democrat party wants to reach in it's march to left. Then regroup and set sail even further left.

Earnest Prole said...

Early Trump is simply a different person than Late Trump — soft-spoken, thoughtful, even self-deprecating at times. If you have an evening to kill, dial up his earliest interviews on youtube.

Michael K said...

Field Marshal Freder still believes in the Russia Hoax. Amazing !

Michael K said...

Yup. I could just see Freder's spittle flying as he typed that rant.

Michael K said...

He is not that different now but 8 years of abuse and getting shot at will change opinions.

Aggie said...

The first thing you have to do when listening to Trump, is to understand who his audience is. His conversation is tailored to whomever he is speaking to. His rally message is different from his 'Serious interview' message. There are some permanent antagonistas that will claim this as proof that he is two-faced, so: When you're talking to your plumber, do you discuss stock investments? When you're talking to your dentist, do you discuss auto repair? You might, if you're friends already, but not if this is purely professional. You discuss what is relevant to the interaction. This is what Trump is good at, and this is why he's attacked for it. He is a master at communicating, using direct and indirect methods.

TJ said...

Absolutely true Michael K. Name a person that would not respond in-kind after all of the abuse they have sent Trump's way. Good grief, just look at how Biden responds when anyone dares to simply question him.

Jaq said...

During a football game on Sunday, a Harris ad came out that said that "Trump doesn't care about people like us." I know it's in the playbook, but it just doesn't wash.

Jaq said...

He doesn't actually believe it, he's modeling belief in it, in the hopes of sucking people in by his "example."

Inga said...

Putin, a Trump enemy? More like a Trump buddy.

sestamibi said...

The secret of Trump's success is that he keeps his friends close and his enemies closer.

rehajm said...

...that's what I recall, too. Left and right. As popular as other major NYC tourist attractions...

rehajm said...

...any of the titled Democrats, really. Do any of them act accountable when challenged?

Freder Frederson said...

Yancey, I'll take that bet. His dad might have forced him to take taxis. But once Trump's father died and Trump got the $400 million from his dad's estate, he rarely if ever took a cab, and I would willing to bet he hasn't taken a cab since the early 'eighties. Problem is, how do we prove it? His memory of that time is suspect, since he can't even remember raping a woman, and that was in the 'nineties

Earnest Prole said...

I’ve watched Trump’s interviews on talk shows for the past forty years. His affect changed well before the 2016 election; his politics have remained remarkably consistent, abortion excluded.

Rusty said...

My half brother lives in Manhatten. He says. Sometimes it's easier to get a taxi than to wait for the town car.

Rusty said...

When was the last time Freder talked to a brick layer. A carpenter. An EMT.?
Last week somebody committed suicide by commuter rail.

Jaq said...

How many Medicare dollars do we have to send to the other side of the world over a spat between Slavs? We are up to 400 billion already. Money well spent? Seems like it hasn't accomplished anything.

Jim at said...

So when do you think the last time Trump actually took a taxi?

Maybe it was when he wandered into Bergdorf Goodman - completely unnoticed - and engaged in some sexual escapades in a dressing room?

Jaq said...

Or do you still believe that Putin stole the election from Hillary. Go on, admit it, we could all use a good laugh today!

Mason G said...

"I talk to anybody."

As opposed to Kamala, who can't talk to anybody and can only talk at people who are carefully vetted beforehand.

Kakistocracy said...

Trump announces he would make car loan interest deductible, end double tax on foreign income
https://nypost.com/2024/10/10/us-news/trump-announces-he-would-make-car-loan-interest-deductible-end-double-tax-on-foreign-income/

Last minute pandering nonsense.

I said by the end of the campaign — Trump
would promise that nobody would pay any taxes. We are almost there. At least it shows he and his campaign are well aware of how tight this race is.

Narayanan said...

S-Corp stock loan interest is deductible = so why not car loans?

Narayanan said...

between Trump and Koch who was more popular?

The Godfather said...

Can we all agree that "Jim at" wins the thread?

The Godfather said...

Trump's boast seems correct with respect to his being able to talk to male "everybodys". It doesn't seem that he does that well talking with women.

The Godfather said...

Bruce, you resolved my query to the previous comment. Thanks!

Michael K said...

The dullard, never leaving her suburban white woman bubble, continues her delusion from 2016. No point in responding.

Michael K said...

bich is spouting more nonsense.

boatbuilder said...

I think Trump is disappointed with the quality of his enemies.

Old and slow said...

RalphL, thanks for that X link. I have had mixed feelings about Boris Johnson recently. I was a huge supporter of his going into Brexit, but his performance during Covid was unimpressive. I suppose I admire his approach to a work/life balance... When I hear him speak I am always impressed, especially when he recites poetry in Greek from memory. So much goes on that we are not privy to that it is nearly impossible to form meaningful opinions about the minutia of policy.

boatbuilder said...

Freder--He probably had to take a taxi to get to that Russian hotel where he paid the hookers to pee on the bed.

boatbuilder said...

Yup.

boatbuilder said...

Well, it's true--he doesn't care about people like Kamala Harris.

Kakistocracy said...

I do get a kick out of the Ultra-MAGA's wearing $4k of Trump merch and complaining about the cost of eggs. The stupidest people on the planet are stuck in the orbit around Trump.

Josephbleau said...

Hillary worked for Putin to sell US Uranium interests to Russian Companies. It’s all a multinational whorehouse. Trump is not a client of that whorehouse, so they need to destroy him. They can’t have a world leader who is not on the take. like in Argentina.

Josephbleau said...

Hillary worked for Putin to sell US Uranium interests to Russian Companies. It’s all a multinational whorehouse. Trump is not a client of that whorehouse, so they need to destroy him. They can’t have a world leader who is not on the take. like in Argentina.

Kakistocracy said...

I do get a kick out of the Ultra-MAGA's wearing $4k of Trump merch and complaining about the cost of eggs. No presidential candidate has ever so closely linked his election with personal for-profit enterprises, selling items from shoes, coins, bibles, crypto and pieces of his suit.

Kakistocracy said...

@Narayanan -- The idea has been around for a while with limited bipartisan support, but never been taken up by Congress. I don't believe Trump can get Congress to agree. This goes into the "concepts of a plan" bucket.

Trump was President for four years, during two of which his Republicans had the majority in both the House and Senate, and during which period his most significant/only policy accomplishment was in fact a tax reform bill. And yet he did nothing on this tax issue then, either for lack of interest or effort. So what accounts for his sudden conversion -- or in the current vernacular, his change of position -- now? And why should voters believe Trump will now accomplish something on an issue he neglected to address during his four years as president?

Trump’s statements are newsworthy, but so are the facts that his desperate campaign statements are often utter fabrications and/or new positions on issues he resolutely ignored for the four years of his presidency.

Gospace said...

Not only that Freder, but the woman can't even remember the date (or day of the week) or month or year that she was raped! Remarkable, isn't it? Was it snowing out? Or sunny and 90 degrees? She doesn't know.

Joe Bar said...

Have you seen or listened to Trump on Andrew Schultz's podcast? He's a natural born funny guy. Love it.

Michael K said...

Freder knows all and sees all. His word is good enough for me. I assume he went everywhere in a limousine. Even construction sites.

Michael K said...

Far be it from me that I argue with a Trump obsessive. Watched 'em all did you ?

Michael K said...

bich ignores the fact that the GOPe Congress was committed to their donors. He got little cooperation aside from the tax cut.

Mason G said...

"He's a natural born funny guy."

Unpossible. He's literally Hitler. All right-thinking people say so.

Kakistocracy said...

I’m surprised Trump hasn’t promised to eliminate the Federal Income Tax, or all taxes of every kind. If he’s going to be fiscally irresponsible he might as well go all in.

Seems pretty basic in business that costs cannot outpace revenues for too long without catastrophic consequences.

So in proposing another tax cut/reducing revenues, where does Trump propose to make up that shortfall? Any cuts to offset?

It's too bad that, while at Wharton, he didn't pass the introductory Economics course.

Alec Rawls said...

Obama remains the main and now largely hidden enemy of America, and hence of Trump and his Make America Great Again movement. The mass illegal immigration to "fundamentally transform" the country, that's Obama.

Democrats always wanted mass migration to gain a permanent electoral majority. Obama targeted it to most effectively destroy America, focusing on mass orthodox Muslim immigration and mass socialist and communist immigration and mass criminal-element immigration.

Unplugging our energy, Obama. Racializing everything, Obama. Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, al Qaeda, ISIS at every turn, Obama. Defunding the police and starting BLM, Barack "if I had a son" Obama.

JoeDeVito said...

They're not just bad enemies. Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris are awful as friends, too!

Alec Rawls said...

Most importantly, Obama's best friends were Hugo Chavez and Turkey's Erdogon, both of whom embraced the adage that "democracy is a train that you get off when it reaches your station."

Obama is the driving force behind the mass election stealing efforts of today's now fully communist Democratic Party.

Nobody ever hated America as much as Obama. He is the leader of the world historic evil that Trump is fighting.

Yes he is himself largely a puppet of the Chicago Communists who orchestrated his rise to power (the Ayers family, and others), but having attained the presidency, he gained the power for himself, and directs it to his own particular hatreds.

The Ayers' were also Islamophiles. Bill apparently converted in the early seventies when gave his son Zayd a Muslim name and started calling himself "Abu Zayd" (father of Zayd in Arabic).

But Obama is an actual member of the Muslim Brotherhood (according to MB itself). 

Christopher B said...

Deductions for mortgage and student loans exist, and I'm old enough to remember when personal loan interest was still deductible (IIRC that went out with the 1986 tax act), and deductions just reduce the amount of income which is taxed. They don't reduce tax liability so unless Congress sets tax rates to 0 there's no way to avoid paying some taxes.

Christopher B said...

Compared to the one who claims she can pay for things by "making the rich pay their fair share", I know which one sounds more responsible.

Rob Crawford said...

Woodward claimed to have interviewed a man in a coma, and published quotes from a discussion two men had in an elevator, alone -- which they deny ever saying. He's a fraud.

Rob Crawford said...

Meanwhile Kamala can't form a coherent sentence.

bobby said...

"Trump was President for four years, during two of which his Republicans had the majority . . . "

IIRC, "his" Republicans were mostly hostile to him. Trump never had a Congress that backed his presidency.

Kakistocracy said...

No one talking about Donald Trump says he really was able to show us detailed policy depth on what he was talking about. It's the exact opposite. Whatever Donald Trump says something, everybody else has to explain for him what he said.

mikee said...

Re Hillary, Biden and Kamala as not great enemies: enough mongrels nipping at your heels can bring you down just as surely as a single lion.