Said Senator Ron Johnson (text and audio at Real Clear Politics), asked about the assassination attempt.
"And let's face it, I uncovered an awful lot. I know firsthand how corrupt the FBI's investigation was. I've been a target of their corruption - the recipient of unsolicited briefings where they talked about being a target of Russian disinformation to try and obviously sabotage the revelation of the Hunter Biden laptop. But it kind of worked because we didn't take possession that when it was first offered to us. We went to the FBI to find out what they knew about it. They wouldn't tell us for weeks until the computer shop guy turned it over to Rudy Giuliani's attorney. The rest is history. So, no, these guys know what they're doing. They pre-sabotaged the Hunter Biden laptop. They completely, it was a complete corruption of the Russian collusion hoax. And by the way, has the Washington Post, have these guys given back the Pulitzer Prizes they earned or won for a complete false story, the narrative they promoted that put America in political turmoil, that it's still present to this day. I mean, where's the mea culpas in the media? You'll never get it. Because they're active advocates for the left themselves. That's the problem. Trump is not up against Kamala Harris. He's up against the leftist media."
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All of that is the truth.
It is painfully obvious that the Secret Service allowed the assassination attempt to proceed. Whether they knew about it beforehand has yet to be determined, but they unquestioningly LET IT HAPPEN. Nobody can argue that point, so they aren't even trying.
The guy who now heads up the Secret Service is the same guy who did the advance work for this exact event. So he's now got his payoff, and is in charge of the investigation, which will undoubtedly uncover nothing and get nobody fired.
Donald Trump remains in grave, grave danger. And I reassert my prediction from earlier this year: He will be assassinated. They cannot allow him to become President. If they do, the people who tried to kill him are dead men.
We need to stop referring to the NYT and WAPO as "the media".
They are propaganda outlets and should be addressed as such.
The didn't fail to protect Trump. They failed to kill him.
Ron Johnson has been a treasure in the Senate. He and his Iowa colleague are the only GOP Senators getting anything useful done.
He ain't wrong.
"Politics ain't beanbag." ~ Someone
Just so you know, J6 was a setup. You can skip Ray Epps, he's old news, but page down a bit and read about the guys who removed the fences and signs, and Scaffold Commander. He still has not been identified, even though there is over an hour of video of him urging people to enter the Capitol from the media tower.
And the media is an arm of the Progressive machine that is covering up all of this bullshit....
I rather you rest when all plausible scenarios are exhausted rather than assuming something to turn over. Maybe if turning over met all data available to analyze which is far from the case for either Jan 6th or the attempt on Trump’s life.
The rest of it I fully agree, and if they withhold security on Jan 6th, then they’ll do it for a rally in Butler, PA. You don’t need to tell Crooks what to do if you know what he is planning and can just stay out of the way.
The Secret Service might be grossly incompetent and lax in their duty to protect presidential candidates not named Biden or Harris. Of course, they may be just as incompetent with Democratic candidates, but how would we know given that Democratic candidates rarely venture outside?
But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to. If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.
Kevin wrote: "We need to stop referring to the NYT and WAPO as 'the media'."
There are so many CIA/NSA/FBI embeds in the NYT, WaPo and WSJ that they are effectively the government. What you read in there is what the government wishes for you to read. And you will not read anything in there that the government does not want you to read.
This has been true for decades. There are many times in history where the government asked the media not to print something, and they agreed to not print it. Katheryn Graham was famous for agreeing to these "requests."
Shouldn't The Press be covering this? With a blanket, until it's DEAD?
tim maguire said...
If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.
yeah. What's your point? do you think.. FOR ONE MINUTE, that they cared about those agent's lives?
>tim maguire said...
If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.<
Yes, and...? The Deep State, which has manifestly tried everything else to eliminate Trump, now resolves to take the rather extreme course of assassinating him. So one or two junior agents as collateral damage matters to them? I don't think so.
Ron Johnson is an incredibly brave man. I am genuinely worried for the people around him, especially his wife.
Tim Maguirre, why in the world do you think they would care? (See the next post from the USSS Whistleblower.)
Tim McGuire asserted, without evidence: "But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to."
No, they didn't. They HELD Donald Trump on stage for 76 seconds after 8 shots had been fired, one hitting Trump in the head. One killing an innocent man in the stands and injuring 2 others.
Then they stood him up and held him ON STAGE, with the two front agents being women less than 5'-10" tall. Trump's head was in plain view the entire time (he is 6'-4"). Any potential second shooter (or the first, for that matter) had plenty of time to murder Donald Trump. The Secret Service actions ensured this.
The agents then walked very, very slowly to an SUV that then drove away at a grand total of 2 miles per hour from an assassination attempt, not even spinning in the dirt. If Kennedy's team had moved as slowly as Trump's team, they'd still be in Dealy Plaza today.
The agents then passed the nearby Veterans Hospital emergency room and instead took Donald Trump to a hospital 6 miles further down the road. But kept him in the SUV for several minutes instead of rushing him into the Emergency Room.
The Secret Service was trying to allow Donald Trump to be murdered and their actions prove it.
How long did Fartwell bang a Chinese agent and another drive DiFi before the FBI caught on? Do they still do any real counter-espionage?
Tim: "If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well."
To get Trump? Why not? That's the question, isn't it? Was it deliberate or incompetent? It does seem clear that the SS cutbacks were deliberate. Intent will never be proved, or disproved, depending on your perspective.
Makes me wonder if the FEDS still circulate WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE reward posters among their agents to let them know how much they get for killing a real President.
"tim maguire said...
But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to. If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well."
As other's have said, I don't think they would really cared about that. The shooting was over by the time the agents got to Trump, they weren't up on stage. And frankly Trump should have been dead by then.
Was it deliberate or incompetent?
I'll take deliberately incompetent for $500, Alex.
Ralph wondered: "Do (the FBI) still do any real counter-espionage?"
The FBI's idea of counter-espionage is espionage directed at the American people, particularly at School Board meetings and in NASCAR garages.
They know who the enemy is. And it's US.
So, was the FBI better or worse under J. Edgar Hoover? Maybe just different, but still not all that it was cracked up to be.
You can argue that its history of messing with internal politics is a disgrace. When headed by virtuous and honest people (William Webster) it can be OK. But it is just the USA version of the Gestapo or the Czarist secret police, isn't it? It only reports to politicians that it approves of. Peter Strzok? James Comey? James A. Baker? Where do they get these guys? Just Dem party functionaries running the secret police. And how about this character that has been propped up to be Cheatle's successor at the Secret Service? Dem functionary all the way. Former Capitol Hill aide. He doesn't care if Trump gets shot. Serves Trump right. Right? Right?
Great.
But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to.
Or here's another way of looking at it.
They dogpiled him as they were supposed to.
He was supposed to be hustled to the car without being seen.
He tragically banged his head as he went down. In a man that age, even a minimal thump could cause an embolism triggering a fatal stroke.
Medics tried to save him but tragically he died en route to the hospital.
You wouldn't need all the agents in on it. 1 would have been enough to ensure he was dead.
This scenario could have played out if the bullet had been non fatal as happened or had missed entirely. All that was needed was the dogpile response.
He foiled it by vigorously standing up and yelling fight.
John Henry
Ron Johnson is frequently denigrated by the other side. Means he's over the target.
The Fbi was founded as a political policing operation 116 years ago over objections and refusals by Congress.
It has never ceased to have that as it's main function
John Henry
Time to ask Putin to take charge of investigation of assassination attempts on his BF
The Bureau was for America under Hoover
If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.
Lots of good comments already discussing this topic, but I will add a little more.
1. Trump was supposed to be dead before the pile on, so no risk to the agents. They were clear of the line of sight for the shooter because they were never informed that a shooter existed. No risk to the agents
2. Shooter was killed before the dog pile. (I think. Could be wrong)
3. An agent getting hit would be great material to deflect any high level complicity. "Look, one (some) of our agents were shot. we did our jobs!" Plus the agents sacrificed would have not only helped to raise the stature of the USSS, they would have been hailed as heroes, so a great legacy for the sacrificed pawn.
"The Bureau was for America under Hoover."
The Bureau was for the mafia under Hoover.
"Was it deliberate or incompetent?"
Both. The couldn't have some hero mess things up.
For all the insane liberals in Madison and Milwaukee, WI... at least we have Ron Johnson.
But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to. If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.
And you find that hard to believe? I don't.
As oppoaed to the bratvas triads and cartels now
Jupiter said...
"The Bureau was for the mafia under Hoover.”
“The Mafia is just an idea.” (Or the 20th century equivalent of that)
- J Edgar Hoover, on several occasions.
Tim McGuire said: "But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to. If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well."
Timmy, stop arguing that strawman. No one is suggesting the individual agents close to Trump didn't act accordingly after the shot was fired (although it would have been better to have a 6'3" man covering him instead of a 5'2" female). The ongoing discussion relates to a setup by USSS leadership that allowed an assassination-minded individual to have a clear shot at Trump, and lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. The actions of the individual agents covering Trump happened after the bullet just missed him. The denial of resources, the inexplicable exclusion of the AGR roof from the security perimeter, and the multiple sightings of the shooter minutes and hours before Trump appeared on stage all contributed to the shots that hit Trump and killed an innocent bystander. Under those circumstances, do you sincerely believe USSS leadership gives a rat's ass about line agents? Try to stay focused on the big picture and avoid the temptation to chase another squirrel.
"But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to. If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well."
Don't you think deliberately shorting Trump on security personnel and equipment put those agents' lives in danger, Tim? If Cheatle/Mayorkas/Rowe really gave a flying fuck about the agents' lives, wouldn't they have made sure Trump had good enough security to preempt a random nutjob like Crooks?
Blogger Gusty Winds said...
For all the insane liberals in Madison and Milwaukee, WI... at least we have Ron Johnson.
Just think of what you could have had. Yikes !
But the agents assigned to protect Trump's person did their duty and threw themselves on him as they are supposed to.
From the ground, one of the victims could have seen Crooks running across the building and getting into the prone position with 20 seconds going by.
Supposedly, the Agents around Trump can listen into tactical communications about what might be happening, should have known there was something happening in that area, and could have seen what was happening if they looked.
None of those agents assigned to protect Trump's person maneuvered to put themselves between the suspicious events occurring and Trump, even with activity could be visibly seen.
They only acted after Trump was shot and kneeled to the ground, which also happened to be after the threat was eliminated. That's when the agents surrounded Trump. Trump asks to get his shoes on before moving, that is when one of the female agents tosses one of Trumps shoes off the stage.
The real question is "who was the agent in charge and what was the timeline of their orders to the other agents"? That person, whether through ineptitude, incompetence, confusion, or intention, didn't have agents moving fast enough to protect Trump or any of the attendees.
Pretty fucking mealy-mouthed polemic from Johnson, but it's a start, I guess. Republicans need to elect about 400 Preston Brooks, supply them with hickory sticks, and turn them loose on Capitol Hill.
If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well.
It has been alleged that a significant number of Trump’s SS squad that day were not his regulars, who had been pulled to provide gold plated protection to Jill Biden for a half-hour indoor meeting. They were scrubs from desk jobs and the uniformed security guards who man the inspection booths and metal detectors at the White House. Some of them supposedly weren’t even SS agents but random Homeland Security employees.
This could be easily refuted if anyone in government or media cared to inquire further but I’ve seen no sign of any such curioisity.
Without making any judgment on the likelihood of an intragovernmental conspiracy to kill the once and future President, surely it can be acknowledged that IF our civil service contained people who would not shrink from such a drastic action, they would not be overly concerned with how many blue-on-blue deaths there might be among their own people, let alone the civilian bystanders.
"they would not be overly concerned with how many blue-on-blue deaths there might be among their own people, let alone the civilian bystanders."
"Literally Hitler", after all.
"If you believe the SS was involved in an attempt to kill the president, you have to believe they were deliberately jeopardizing their own agents' lives as well."
Not deliberately. I'm not saying that this is what was "supposed to happen" but if I were playing Hollywood screenwriter, no agents were would have been in jeopardy if things went according to plan. I think Crooks was supposed to shoot Trump and (Step 1) was to give him a chance, and the second Trump dropped, (Step 2a) the counter sniper takes Crooks out. But if he missed the SS would go to (Step 2b) which was a second shooter (inside the AGR building) shoots Trump while the countersniper immediately takes out Crooks.
The first way is preferable because there are way fewer loose ends to tie up. Especially if your patsy is efficient and not a conspicuous dingus. But...again crackpot Hollywood loonytoon stuff...what if Crooks just wouldn't take the fucking shot. SS kept waiting and waiting and waiting. But, Crooks kept fiddlefucking and when the crowd started yelling someone had to make the call that the sniper in the AGR building had to shoot first. Three controlled shots. Bang. Bang. Bang.
Crooks doesn't know about the guy in the AGR building and panics and starts shooting wildly. Until he is taken out. But when? And what's the deal with the single gunshoot looooong after the rest of the shooting?
So anyways. If we are going the rabbit hole of considering that SS was in on the attempt, it's a fair assumption that they planned to keep SS agents out of harms way. It's also a fair assumption that whatever the plan was, it went FUBAR. They didn't mean to leave hours of video footage behind. I guarantee you that much.
* We know there were men with guns and badges in there but it is super foggy who.
"They didn't mean to leave hours of video footage behind. I guarantee you that much."
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Especially since they, at least so far, haven't offered security cam footage you might think would be available from at least a half dozen locations. Do they really not use such rudimentary tech to supplement agent's eyes and ears? I mean, go all out and set up some doorways with Ring cameras..
From the article:
"I've been a target of their corruption - the recipient of unsolicited briefings where they talked about being a target of Russian disinformation to try and obviously sabotage the revelation of the Hunter Biden laptop. But it kind of worked because we didn't take possession that when it was first offered to us. We went to the FBI to find out what they knew about it. They wouldn't tell us for weeks until the computer shop guy turned it over to Rudy Giuliani's attorney."
I fully believe that account. I heard a radio interview of the computer shop owner, who said he had contacted FBI agents several times, and was rebuffed each time as they claimed it had no value to them... until it was clear that it did.
Right. Mac wanted to extricate himself from that mess to protect himself. They left him with the hot potato.
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