Tulsi Gabbard was responding to this short video put out by Kamala Harris: "Donald Trump has picked his new running mate: J.D. Vance. Trump looked for someone he knew would be a rubber stamp for his extreme agenda. Make no mistake: J.D. Vance will be loyal only to Trump, not to our country."Kamala Harris claims “JD Vance will be loyal only to Trump, not to our country.” @JDVance1 enlisted in the Marine Corps after 9/11 and deployed to Iraq in 2005, the same year I was there during the height of the war. He put his life on the line in service to our country.
— Tulsi Gabbard ðº (@TulsiGabbard) July 18, 2024
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July 18, 2024
"She's talking about J.D. Vance, someone who enlisted in the Marine Corps after... 9/11... putting his own life on the line in service to our country...."
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You'd think a former whore would at least be able to fake charm and intelligence, but no. I can't believe the BluAnoners think she's going to beat Vance at anything but servicing men.
She’s really kind of politically adrift isn’t she?
Tulsi understands.
"Make no mistake: J.D. Vance will be loyal only to Trump, not to our country."
Demonization of one man. That's their platform.
Can't imagine why somebody tried to kill him.
The Trump campaign could run Harris' video split screen with the Marine photo of Vance, which is right out of central casting. Thank her for her in kind contribution.
Goodness that's harsh. Gabbard has it right, though.
To be sure, he was an enlisted combat correspondent for a MC air unit for six months, and not involved in combat (kind of like Al Gore Jr.)
But he would be a better VP and Prez on his worst day than Harris on her best.
Tulsi destroyed Harris' campaign in the primary. Lots of mixed reviews on Tulsi here in Hawaii-but I think she is at the point of saying what she thinks, regardless of party loyalty. thats a good thing for her.
In other news, Elon Musk is speaking tonight, same night as Trump at the RNC. That should really make leftist heads explode.
All these people that rubber stamped "Biden is fit for service" 3 months ago, now pretend it is Trump that demands loyalty.
Why are Democrats still loyal to Kim Cheatle?
Kamala serviced powerful Democrat men to get to where she is.
She doesn't seem to realize the box canyon they are in.
I believe Kamala is going to be the sacrificial lamb in 2024. Everyone wants her gone. Someone has to take the L. Clears the deck for 2028.
2 birds with one stone.
Harris leans in with failing support. Look out for the knees!
@Leland: Why are Democrats still loyal to Kim Cheatle?
Cheatle has the face, clothes, mannerisms and doublespeak of a stereotypical career bureaucrat. This type of person is known for loyalty to the organization and -- often -- being promoted way beyond their potential and far away from their core skills. Promoted because of loyalty and seniority and a willingness to support those above. She's a team player, and one of the 10,000 bumblers who know that Biden is their best and only way to access and keep power/money.
On the other hand it is likely that democrats lose more seats in the house and senate if Harris is at the top of the ticket.
This could get interesting.
Leland HS a good point. What has Cheatle got on Biden ?
And which of Joe’s policies did Kamala push back on, putting the needs of the people of the United States above loyalty to her boss?
Kamala started on her knees and will end on her knees. We all know she was picked BECAUSE she is a black woman. PERIOD. She can sit right down and shut her overactive mouth. Sorry, not sorry, but these people are delusional, and it is time to call them out for it.
Enigma said...
@Leland: Why are Democrats still loyal to Kim Cheatle?
Cheatle has the face, clothes, mannerisms and doublespeak of a stereotypical career bureaucrat. This type of person is known for loyalty to the organization and -- often -- being promoted way beyond their potential and far away from their core skills. Promoted because of loyalty and seniority and a willingness to support those above. She's a team player, and one of the 10,000 bumblers who know that Biden is their best and only way to access and keep power/money.
+1.
This is the nature of a tribal spoils system.
Gabbard at Defense, her priorities straight.
If the candidate didn't serve in the military, then accuse him of being a chicken hawk. If he actually did serve in the military, then accuse him of being a militarist. (Militarism is a symptom of incipient Fascism and invariably leads to the person being worse than Hitler.)....If Vance turns out to be unquestionably loyal to Trump, he will have the distinction of being the first Trump appointee to be so.
Kamala Harris is protected by the Secret Service so she is kind of putting her life on the line in service to her country.
JD Vance was a combat correspondent in Iraq. So Pvt Joker then (from FMJ).
Comparative virtue 101. It's important in any political dispute.
Then there's the gotcha comparative virtue.
Neither has anything to do with virtue.
Brigade Commander Sally 327 is taking over the military role of Freder and will be our new goto source for all things military.
Thank you, Sally. What is your DD214?
Tulsi continues to destroy Kamala who richly deserves it. I must say that gray streak makes Tulsi, already an attractive woman, more attractive to me.
The extremist Soros Democratic Left are a threat to our nation.
Kamala is just another foot-solider and liar for the radical left.
Speaking of self serving… is Gabbard hoping to be appointed to a Trump cabinet? Harris stands in front of crowds of people and like Trump, there may be someone in the crowd that wants her dead, so yes she is putting her life on the line in service to her country as VP.
"Brigade Commander Sally 327 is taking over the military role of Freder and will be our new goto source for all things military.
Thank you, Sally. What is your DD214?"
That is funny. I know movies. Like..."what is your major malfunction numb nuts?" Keeping with the FMJ theme.
miss eight track tape, with the reel of community and time, good grief,
Gabbard trained with the Indonesian Special Forces, Kopassus so I know who I would have on my side
How about if Harris sticks to the issues rather than attack JD’s character?
Why should we vote for her - other than she’s not Trump.
they have both been to Iraq, if memory serves Gabbard and Vance, one in a reserve capacity, they figured out the leadership that included Milley didn't have a clue,
Teh Cacklin’ Grackle shit talks…
they've given her the border the AI portfolio, and Moloch high priestess, shes failed at least two of those,
"Harris stands in front of crowds of people and like Trump, there may be someone in the crowd that wants her dead, so yes she is putting her life on the line in service to her country as VP."
I bet she has real SS protection.
I must say that gray streak makes Tulsi, already an attractive woman, more attractive to me.
She was great as Alexandra in Josie and The Pussycats…
Succinct and beautiful in every way.
Michael K said...
Leland HS a good point. What has Cheatle got on Biden ?
She's BFF's with Jill.
FBI says SS knew there was a shooter on that roof for 10 minutes prior to shots ringing out.
Empathetic neutrality, neutralization returns us to the principles and issues of the matter.
Everything Kamala's saying is targeted at the Democrat base. They're trying to keep the rats from deserting the ship.
numbnuts happens to be one word, darling...
I get the feeling Tulsi Gabbard doesn't care much for Kamala Harris.
Igna @10:47: This is monumentally irrational, even for Igna. Tulsi vs. Kamala? Seriously? When Tulsi left the Democrats in Congress and changed her party she took with her the last shred of decency in the party.
Standing on a stage giving a speech is "serving the country" like going into combat in a foreign war? Democrats are lunatics whose values have become warped.
“ numbnuts happens to be one word, darling...”
Is that OED or just your personal experience?
Harris at the border, when the wail failed.
Tulsi is kinda the rock to Kamala's scissors. Though given how fake she comes off I think Kamala is more like paper so perhaps that makes Tulsi scissors? I wonder about the origin of this video?? Was this completely out of no where and Tulsi saw Kamala's attack on J.D. and felt prompted to respond? I'm guessing it is more likely she is actively working with the Trump campaign and someone from the campaign asked her to respond. If that is the case it shows a few things. The Trump campaign is much much better organized than it was previously. You don't want J.D. to respond to an attack like that, and as mentioned above I think Tulsi is the perfect one to respond to an attack by Kamala. Also, this suggests that Tulsi is hoping for a spot in a Trump administration. I wonder what she is hoping for? She has a military background, but I'm not certain she has the executive experience or ability to handle Sec-Def. Unlike other cabinet positions the Military is so large and Byzantine I feel it really demands someone with exceptional executive ability. I think I would trust her directionally with the military just not necessarily her ability to get things done and to monitor all that is going on. And after the Justice Department and FBI, the military is the top organization in government that needs to be cleaned up.
LOL, Inga- the only people wanting Harris dead are the Democrats. Same with Joe Shit For His Brains Biden- only Democrats want him dead. Republicans want to run against one of these two people for certain.
Tulsi Gabbard as Trump's National Security Advisor?
Can we please find something for Tulsi to do for us, in a substantive, real way? Damn, she's solid.
Yancey Ward said...
LOL, Inga- the only people wanting Harris dead are the Democrats. Same with Joe Shit For His Brains Biden- only Democrats want him dead. Republicans want to run against one of these two people for certain.
7/18/24, 11:17 AM
She-Wolf Inga of the BidenWaffe actually believes the propaganda. Sure, going to events with heavily armed bodyguards is exactly like risking your life in Iraq.
We’re 46 comments into a thread on Tulsi Gabbard and RideSpaceMountain hasn’t checked in yet?
Augustine is good on virtue. Think the best of people instead of the worst. That was the only meaning of charity back then. It was said to be soul-saving.
Jane Austen sort of made fun of it under the name "candid," meaning seeing the good (L white).
To be sure, he was an enlisted combat correspondent for a MC air unit for six months, and not involved in combat (kind of like Al Gore Jr.)
He enlisted out of high school, completely unlike Al Gore who having used up his deferments for college, got his father (a US Senator) to arrange the correspondent gig for him. Vance enlisted on his own and was assigned his job. He served four years as a correspondent, six months of which were in Iraq at the height of the war. He did not serve for only six months.
There is no similarity, other than basic job description, between JD Vance and the "Fortunate Son" about whom Creedence wrote a song with the line targeted right at Al Gore Jr., "I ain't no Senator's son, no." Anyone who enlisted after 9/11 should be held in honor, even if you don't hold their service in high esteem. None of us knew in the Fall of 2001 what a clusterfuck that war would be and we are fortunate for young people like JD who volunteered to fight for their country.
HEAR, HEAR!!! Mike (MJB Wolf)
Speaking of self serving… is Gabbard hoping to be appointed to a Trump cabinet? Harris stands in front of crowds of people and like Trump, there may be someone in the crowd that wants her dead, so yes she is putting her life on the line in service to her country as VP.
Depends on A) whether Cheatle gives her the A-team or the C-team detail and B) whether ANYONE things eliminating Harris from the Democrat ticket would be beneficial for their goals. Harris is hew own protection detail.
Was this completely out of no where and Tulsi saw Kamala's attack on J.D. and felt prompted to respond?
My guess is she has personal animus toward Kamala, as demonstrated in the defenestration she applied during the primary four years ago, when Tulsi was still a Democrat. Tulsi went at Kammy hard enough to force Kammy out of the race with less than 1% of ballots for her at that point.
And it never hurts to stay on Trump's good side, when you're a reach-across-the-aisle type pick.
Thank you, Wendybar.
JD Vance praises Alex Jones as a “truth teller”. Alex Jones, the guy who was excited at the idea of a Trump assassination.
Alex Jones and Ivan Raikland agreeing that killing Trump is the best case scenario
“ALEX JONES (HOST): I mean, folks, I was in a meeting with J.D. Vance a month ago. Rob Dew was right there. And, he's a great guy — he's defended me when I was being censored when he wasn't a senator, when he was a senator. And he told me, I said, ‘so I hear you probably got it.' He goes, ‘Yeah, I got it. I'm getting it. I'm the VP,' and he didn't say don't tell anybody. He just knew I knew don't say anything.”
That’s some lunacy right there.
Harris stands in front of crowds of people and like Trump, there may be someone in the crowd that wants her dead, so yes she is putting her life on the line in service to her country as VP.
A more cogent argument would have been that Harris is serving her country as VP, period. I have serious doubts about that, but as arguments go, it strikes me as better than "being a politician is just as dangerous as being a military member deployed in a war zone*."
As given, your argument sounds like the execrable Joy Reid's comparing Biden's COVID to Trump's brush with death by assassin's bullet. It's just silly.
* even if your job isn't infantry
Kamala - who likes to spring criminals out of jail - will be loyal to her corrupt deep state masters... and the corrupt big-money Soros machine.
Inga- you do know Alex Jones lies a lot. Sort of like ... Maddow.
ALEX JONES (HOST): I mean, folks, I was in a meeting with J.D. Vance a month ago. Rob Dew was right there. And, he's a great guy — he's defended me when I was being censored when he wasn't a senator, when he was a senator. And he told me, I said, ‘so I hear you probably got it.' He goes, ‘Yeah, I got it. I'm getting it. I'm the VP,' and he didn't say don't tell anybody. He just knew I knew don't say anything.”
I call BS. Prove it - or it didn't happen.
Kamala: “Make no mistake: J.D. Vance will be loyal only to Trump.”
Millions of Americans: “That’ll work.”
Inga buys hearsay - wholesale. Alex Jones BS is extra special hearsay.
Corporal J.D. Vance served in the Marine Corps as a Combat Correspondent from 2003 to 2007. He attained E4 (Corporal) rank while serving a four-year enlistment, including a six-month deployment to Iraq in late 2005 as a non-combatant. So risking his life likely involved dodging IEDs on the road.
Better ask about MOS, Rusty, not DD-214.
Mike (MJB Wolf), I didn't say he served only six months--that's how long he was in the war zone in his writing job.
I do honor his service, and that of everyone else who has served. In fact, there are people I have known whose honorable military service is the only respectable thing about them. (N.B. Vance is not in that category.)
Seriously, Althouse, can't you start a series of Tulsi pictures for your night cafes? They would go great along with your phallic fungus pictures. Would also take your blog stats through the roof on Google Analytics.
“Inga- you do know Alex Jones lies a lot. Sort of like ... Maddow.”
So why did JD Vance praise him as a “truth teller”?
Sally327 said: "“numbnuts happens to be one word, darling...”
Is that OED or just your personal experience?"
These nonsubstantive ripostes from Sally327 lead me to wonder whether "she" is a sock puppet of Rich?
THis is what i think is hilarious (not really) about the right. They demonize a woman who had a sexual relation, almost 40 years ago, with a powerful,local politician. She graduated from college (a good one), law school(a great one) and practiced law in the state of California and was the District Attorney for the city of San Francisco. Objectively one would consider her "accomplished". But they call her a "whore". Now, they deify a man who admitted that he grabbed pussy and (though he likes to deny it) had sex with a prostitute and pretty much (can't deny it) cheated on all of his wives. Double standard, hell no. Fear of accomplished women, absolutely.
Now i am not a big fan, never have been, of Kamala Harris. But the right's fear of her and all that she stands for is palpable.
Vicki from Pasadena
I can see it now. "Tulsi at 5:37," "Tulsi at 5:41," "Megacollybia at 5:43".
Character assassination in the woke of an assassin's bullet is unbecoming the VP.
gadfly said: "So [Vance] risking his life likely involved dodging IEDs on the road." So regale us with your combat experience, Mr. Keyboard Warrior. Not even a DD-214, much less in-theater experience with an IED? We thought so from your petty, vile and irrelevant post.
Gabbard dunks on the VP like Michael Jordan dunking on Patrick Ewing. Damn.
“I have serious doubts about that, but as arguments go, it strikes me as better than "being a politician is just as dangerous as being a military member deployed in a war zone*."
Except I didn’t say that, you have mischaracterized my comment. Also Vance served for 6 months in Iraq as a non combatant. My daughter was deployed with the Marines at Camp Leatherneck for an entire year in Afghanistan. In 2012 the Taliban cut through the perimeter fence and attacked Camp Leatherneck and Camp Bastion. My daughter WAS there in a combat zone when bullets were flying. I don’t equate being a VP, standing in front of a possible assassin and being in a war zone with bullets flying with the enemy trying to kill you (like my daughter was)but Harris’ life is put on the line every time she appears in a public setting in front of a crowd, look at what just happened to Trump for pity sake.
Thanks, Narr. That was clearer than your original statement. I still reject the Al Gore, Jr. comparison but YMMV.
Inga, your daughter for President on the Republican ticket 2028.
She is obviously not a true conservative or Republican, but I suspect there might be a spot in a Trump administration where she would fit in nicely.
“I call BS. Prove it - or it didn't happen.”
In Private Speech, J.D. Vance Said the “Devil Is Real” and Praised Alex Jones as a Truth-Teller
Vance gave the speech to the secretive Teneo Network. The GOP vice presidential nominee has been a member of the Leonard Leo-backed group, which seeks to cultivate conservative influence in business and culture.
@StandartenfÃŒhrer Sally327
OED.
Orthography is your friend.
THis is what i think is hilarious (not really) about the right. They demonize a woman who had a sexual relation, almost 40 years ago, with a powerful,local politician. She graduated from college (a good one), law school(a great one) and practiced law in the state of California and was the District Attorney for the city of San Francisco. Objectively one would consider her "accomplished". But they call her a "whore". Now, they deify a man who admitted that he grabbed pussy and (though he likes to deny it) had sex with a prostitute and pretty much (can't deny it) cheated on all of his wives. Double standard, hell no. Fear of accomplished women, absolutely.
Now i am not a big fan, never have been, of Kamala Harris. But the right's fear of her and all that she stands for is palpable.
Vicki from Pasadena
Tulsi was my choice for vp. Harris is way worse than what she says.
“Inga, your daughter for President on the Republican ticket 2028.”
Who knows what the future holds?! But it would be on the Democratic ticket, as she’s a Democrat.
From Inga's link:
"Sen. J.D. Vance, whom Donald Trump named as his vice presidential running mate Monday, told a group of influential young conservatives in a closed-door speech in 2021 that they should stand up for “nonconventional people” who speak truth, such as Infowars founder Alex Jones.
“If you listen to Rachel Maddow every night, the basic worldview that you have is that MAGA grandmas who have family dinners on Sunday and bake apple pies for their family are about to start a violent insurrection against this country,” Vance said. “But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country, that they hate our society, and oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too.”
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Vance went on, “Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that’s actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow’s view of society.”
He said that every person in attendance for his speech believed “something that’s a little crazy.” In his case, he said, “I believe the devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. That’s a crazy conspiracy theory to a lot of very well-educated people in this country right now.”
CONTEXT, Inga - something you loyal Maddow leftists like to scrub from everything.
That you leftists think that is a smoking gun - tells us how desperate you are.
Sally327 said...“Is that OED or just your personal experience?"
Regarding the Great Numbnuts Controversy of 2024 that has vexed Roger, Sally327, and Fairmarketvalue, the OED entry has "numbnuts" as a single word, though it includes variants like "numb nuts" and "numb-nuts" in its examples of historic use dating back to 1970.
For the record, OED (subscription required) defines "numbnuts" to mean "A fool, an idiot; a useless or inadequate person."
It appears Inga and Gadfly missed Joe’s “be nice” speech.
ProPublica's own description of the organization: "We use multiple methods to analyze sources. Learn how we rate media bias. ProPublica has a Lean Left bias. It's been accused by some conservative news outlets of harboring a liberal bias based on its acceptance of donations from progressives like George Soros."
Inga's sources are not reliable. But that's not news.
Inga writes, "But it would be on the Democratic ticket, as she’s a Democrat."
Does she approve of assassination as a means of settling American domestic politics like her mother?
Inga:
Biden and Harris can’t draw flies to their campaign events. Thirty members of the NEA is considered a good crowd for them. Is that the hazardoue duty you want to credit her with? Is that the best you can do?
Tulsi (she likes me to call her Tulsi) resigned from her seat in the Hawaiian State Assembly to join the Army National Guard. She served one deployment to Iraq and a second to Kuwait.
Do you really want to draw that comparison?
Inga! Inga! They stole your tagline!
Playbook: The walls close in around Biden
JD, thank you for your service.
Tulsi, thank you for your service.
Kamala, I'm sure others have already thanked you for yours.
It's got to be demoralizing for Harris that her own party has to debate whether she'd be a more effective candidate than a shambling zombie.
Leland said...
All these people that rubber stamped "Biden is fit for service" 3 months ago, now pretend it is Trump that demands loyalty.
Leland wins the thread early.
"Shambling Zombies" would be a good band name.
Kamala, I'm sure others have already thanked you for yours.
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happpy endings
It’s one thing to risk your life standing at a podium, it’s another to prove your physical courage after being shot at and hit.
From Inga's link:
Again -
"Sen. J.D. Vance, whom Donald Trump named as his vice presidential running mate Monday, told a group of influential young conservatives in a closed-door speech in 2021 that they should stand up for “nonconventional people” who speak truth, such as Infowars founder Alex Jones."
[ME: He never said that specifically. So - a lie from Pro-publica}
“If you listen to Rachel Maddow every night, the basic worldview that you have is that MAGA grandmas who have family dinners on Sunday and bake apple pies for their family are about to start a violent insurrection against this country,” Vance said. “But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country, that they hate our society, and oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too.”
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Vance went on, “Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that’s actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow’s view of society.”
He said that every person in attendance for his speech believed “something that’s a little crazy.” In his case, he said, “I believe the devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. That’s a crazy conspiracy theory to a lot of very well-educated people in this country right now.”
Again - CONTEXT. Lies from leftist sources.
Inga- JD Vance never said 'Infowars speaks truth'
That you are spreading leftwing lies - tells us all we need to know about you.
Russia Russia Inga.
n.n said...
“Harris at the border, when the wail failed.”
Kamala on the ocean. Kamala and Joe-lad at Tanagra. Kamala and Joe-lad at the convention.
Trump, his fist high.
Gadfly:
JD Vance joined the Marines as an 18 year old high school graduate. I’m guessing you’re not a veteran (my apologies if you were). What rank do you think someone attains in four years with that background?
Unless you father is a Senator from Tennessee that is. Or the VP of the U.S. Then you get an age waiver and a direct commission.
Anyone who approves of a murder is as morally depraved as the murderer himself.
Tulsi used to run as a Democrat too. Just sayin'.
Propublica funded by the sandlers
Teneo is as secret as the stone cutters isnt oaul ryan part of that
“Inga- JD Vance never said 'Infowars speaks truth”
“Vance went on, “Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that’s actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow’s view of society.”
So JD Vance is basically saying Alex Jones’ lunatic view of society has merit. For Vance to associate himself with Alex Jones is disturbing, or should be to thinking people.
Inga said...
“Inga- you do know Alex Jones lies a lot. Sort of like ... Maddow.”
So why did JD Vance praise him as a “truth teller”?
Vance never used the words you put in quotes. I have been looking around and I have read 3 articles including the one you linked but clearly couldn't read.
"truth teller" shows up in headlines. But I haven't found it in any actual quote of Vance or any of the videos they displayed.
You are just a disgusting evil dishonest stupid person.
Inga still believes in Russian Collusion and wants everyone to pretend that Alex Jones is a bad person compared to her.
Alex Jones is far more likely to be a trustworthy source than you Inga. Alex Jones is a much more honest and decent person than you are.
“Anyone who approves of a murder is as morally depraved as the murderer himself.”
Who here approves of a murder?
No Inga - JD merely stated his opinion that it was "closer to the truth". So what? and it was a specific sentence that he stated! Not something Alex Jones said/quoted. You liar.
He never said what proPublica accused him of saying.
Standing on a stage giving a speech is "serving the country" like going into combat in a foreign war? Democrats are lunatics whose values have become warped.
Well, left is equating Bidens covid with Trumps bullet to the head.
Inga - When you use the words "He is basically saying" -= you are being dishonest. Not that that ever bothers you.
Inga, for one.
Bottom line Inga - you leftists are so desperate for a gottcha.
JD Vance has every right to his opinion - and nothing in what he said is controversial.
All while Crook Joe and his family get away with millions in IL-gotten gains form their corrupt international pay to play schemes - using various shell companies to hide it all.
“Inga - When you use the words "He is basically saying" -= you are being dishonest. Not that that ever bothers you.”
Then what do YOU think he’s saying? For him to associate Alex Jones’ comments to be worthy of truth telling, then believing what Vance says becomes much more difficult.
“Anyone who approves of a murder is as morally depraved as the murderer himself.”
“Who here approves of a murder?”
“Inga, for one.”
So how did you come to such a conclusion? I’m glad you let your mask slip. You’re as much of a lunatic as Alex Jones and Achilles.
Over many years, Inga has spent her energies here promoting the worst possible (not to mention the worst logically impossible) rumors, half-truths, and outright filthy lies about Donald John Trump and his supporters. It's only moral reciprocity that she should endure the same treatment she delights in dishing out.
I want Tulsi to have a big role in Trump’s administration. She is a serious person and her measured tone demands your attention. She comes across as someone you can trust to tell the truth, an adult in the room.
Inga writes, "I’m glad you let your mask slip."
That was me wearing my Inga mask. Did you like it? I'd say it was the spitting image of you.
Again Inga - you are twisting wast he said into something very different. Re-read your own link. If you cannot figure it out - it just falls in line with everything else we know about you.
Trump is a Russian Spy!
“ Kamala, I'm sure others have already thanked you for yours.”
Pro tip: never say thankyou to girls after sex, for some reason it really pisses them off.
I want Tulsi to have a big role in Trump’s administration.
How about Chief of Staff? She'd be the first woman to hold that position, and she would be a stark contrast to the typical Democrat CoS, a shadowy Washington lawyer and cloakroom influencer like Ron Klain.
“That was me wearing my Inga mask.”
No, that was your true self showing and it’s as ugly as Drago, Achilles, doctrev and a few others who drool at the thought of civil war and bloodshed.
It says a lot about you, Inga, that you seem to really believe those commenters are wishing for civil war.
Let's put it to a vote. Was my accusation more Inga-like or Quaestor-like?
“Let's put it to a vote. Was my accusation more Inga-like or Quaestor-like?”
Haha,Quaestor is running through the thread with a pitchfork and a torch yelling, burn the heretic, who is with me?!
Inga - he said what he said:
which is this:
“If you listen to Rachel Maddow every night, the basic worldview that you have is that MAGA grandmas who have family dinners on Sunday and bake apple pies for their family are about to start a violent insurrection against this country,” Vance said. “But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country, that they hate our society, and oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too.”
Vance went on, “Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that’s actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow’s view of society.”
He said that every person in attendance for his speech believed “something that’s a little crazy.” In his case, he said, “I believe the devil is real and that he works terrible things in our society. That’s a crazy conspiracy theory to a lot of very well-educated people in this country right now.”
Wow - you ProPublica-Maddow folks got him now!
He isn't saying it IS True, just truer than anything Rachel Maddow says. Which is a low bar.
AND SO WHAT? There are sex perverts on the left. A transnational financial elite controls things?
Like Soros? yeah - maybe so! but the left don't agree. Happy to take Soros money - but shhhhh mums the word.
So Inga this is all a nothing burger - puffed up by liars at leftwing INVESTIGATIONS! pRO-pUBLICA.
Al Gore Jr, IIRC, never sought a commission and did his turn as an enlisted man, and FWIW the only veteran in CCR was John Fogarty, who did a few years stateside NTTAWWT.
IANAV but my understanding is that the DD-214 is essentially your 'permanent record' issued at time of separation--like a resume' of your service including special training and qualifications, deployments, awards and decorations, etc.
The MOS is just an alphanumeric code for particular specialties, whether cook or sniper.
Blogger gadfly said...
Corporal J.D. Vance served in the Marine Corps as a Combat Correspondent from 2003 to 2007. He attained E4 (Corporal) rank while serving a four-year enlistment, including a six-month deployment to Iraq in late 2005 as a non-combatant. So risking his life likely involved dodging IEDs on the road
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gadfly, I served for 6 years US Army. Outside of training schools,I was always stationed in Germany. After MP school, I was assigned to duty at US Army Europe Headquarters. My job was to protect the CINCUSAREUR - the 4-star general in charge of all US Army forces in Europe. Sounds pretty sweet, eh?
My first day on the job came suddenly; just as I arrived at my duty station, a huge bomb went off, killing 3 from my barracks and destroying a vital communications center. Without any buffer time to adjust or even a basic orientation, I was packed up with full combat gear, a .45 and an M-16 and spent the next 14 hours guarding the bombsite and communication center. When I arrived on scene, there was a lower torso with legs still attached hanging in the branches of a tree... the rest of the torso had left a 40ft skidmark on a parking lot and sat there for hours as CID performed their forensic tasks. Another body had been atomized and was just a mist that had been sprayed on the side of a building. It was like a grotesque Jackson Pollock work. That wasn't a combat zone until it was.
When you put on a uniform, you become a target. I denigrate no one's honorable service.
MfG
Goetz von Berlichingen
P.S. It was the work of the Baader-Meinhof gang, btw. My unit then was the 529th MP Company.
Army awarded us as the best MP unit in the entire Army while I was there. Deuce Nine!
Narr: Du hast Recht! MOS= Military Occupational Specialty
DD-214 = permanent record.
Goetz von Berlichingen
Kamala [raises right hand] can visualize what can be (her being competent) unburdened [lowers left hand] by what has been (an unbroken record of mediocrity).
"To be sure, he was an enlisted combat correspondent for a MC air unit for six months, and not involved in combat (kind of like Al Gore Jr.)"
There was no "Daddy's boy" associated with Vance's role in the military. The Marines made that call.
I intended no criticism of Vance's actual service, so cool your jets.
wow
I love her!
She's the anti-Kamala.
"... a man who admitted that he grabbed pussy and (though he likes to deny it)" If you heard the actual tape, or read the actual transcript you know this is a lie.
He "had sex with a prostitute" you claim definitively. A statement based on nothing except for a debunked myth.
Bet you buy the "good guys on both sides" crap. Never let the truth get in your way. It's the D way.
You are as trustworthy as anything preceding "My word as a Biden".
kamala thought was an actually an argument, which isn't surprising, but gabbard cut her off at the knees
it was under obama's minstrels votevets, that general shinseki was turfed out, at the Va, brandon friedman and co,
this was back when they called the Islamic State, let loose by Austin, as the jay vee team,
These nonsubstantive ripostes from Sally327 lead me to wonder whether "she" is a sock puppet of Rich?
"Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box." (Cool Hand Luke)
Tulsi Gabbard taking on Kamala Harris? It ain't fair! Tulsi scorched Kamala in the 2020 debates (and Kamala then promptly withdrew). This little video by Tulsi scorches Kamala again. it ain't fair.
"This little video by Tulsi scorches Kamala again. it ain't fair."
Catfight?
I can appreciate Tulsi coming to his defense.
But I'll never trust her.
Her gun grabbery is a bridge too far.
Next.
She should be Trump's pick for Secretary For Veterans Affairs.
Right now Tulsi’s job is bringin’ the nasty to Kamala in case there’s a floor fight…
Inga makes a good point about her daughter. What she doesn't tell us is what her MOS was. Like Vance's assignment (MOS) that's really not that important. My experience is that regardless of MOS ( I was artillery -0802 MOS) once you are in a combat zone you become a target for the other guys. Given the current range of artillery and the deployment of armed drones I think it is probably true that there are even fewer places to hide on or near the battlefield than ever. Remember that there have been plenty of times when clerk/typists ( real echelon pogues) have been required to man the lines and there have been plenty of times in "safe" rear areas where an artillery round has landed in somebody's back pocket. Vance volunteered. The Green Machine could
as easily made him a grunt (03) as a correspondent. Luck of the draw.
Regardless of how light Vance's duty might have been, he still had to go through Marine boot camp, a place where candy-asses do not flourish.
Marcus, good call!
I looked into that accusation that JD Vance thinks Alex Jones is a truth teller. I listened to Vance's speech at a private group and he stated very clearly that he thought a lot of what Jones says is nuts but some people can be 60% nuts, iow most of the time, and 40% of the time very insightful. It's worth listening to that 40%. Vance was saying we shouldn't reject people entirely because they have been labeled as nuts but the majority opinion. Vance goes on to say that he has some beliefs which some people might consider "crazy." For instance, he believes the devil is a real force in society, and of course lots of people would consider that crazy.
The argument Inga made about Harris and the VP position requiring bravery would of course also apply to Vance since he is volunteering to put himself in the same position. I don't know how Inga doesn't see that.
Maybe Inga didn't make that argument about the relative dangers of being in the military and serving as VP. If not, sorry Inga.
This thread is a bit wacky and I don't want to trace it back.
Tulsi can get a bit macho. She wasn't really making a rational argument, it was more an emotional response to a very stupid statement by our VP Harris. There is something strange about Harris because I've seen her speak rationally and she's actually held important jobs, but most of the time she's totally "effed" up. Who knows? Maybe she's on cocaine? I had a supervisor once who was unqualified for her job and she was on cocaine and eventually had a mental breakdown. That's who our VP reminds me of...LOL
I've really been noticing how men in politics can be juvenile and dickish and it's hard for a woman to even function in that environment.
Kamala Harris always reminds me of the perfume ladies at Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus, dolled-up and dressed in that overly-feminine palette of pastel colors, coy insincere small pasted on her painted face, ready to spritz you with some strong perfume.
She has ZERO gravitas. In four years of public speaking to a national audience, she still hasn't learned how to comport herself in a dignified manner appropriate to her title. Her video here, slandering Vance, is one example. Worth watching her speech at the annual convention of her black women's sorority this year. The women sitting on the dais behind look unimpressed, frankly hostile, as Kamala babbles on.
A person would need to be hard-core do-or-die democrat to think Kamala is viable presidential material. She make Julia Dreyfuss' VP character seem like Winston Churchill in comparison.
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...
"[Vance] isn't saying [what Jones says] IS True, just truer than anything Rachel Maddow says. Which is a low bar."
It never ceases to amaze me how many people do not understand (or at least choose to not comprehend) the comparative and superlative forms of adjectives - the comparative especially.
Yeah , but was JD Vance willing to suck a dick for our country?
But the right's fear of her and all that she stands for is palpable.
Laughter isn't fear. There is absolutely nothing to fear about Harris, though there is plenty to laugh about.
“Inga makes a good point about her daughter. What she doesn't tell us is what her MOS was.”
My daughter was a FMF (Fleet Marine Force) Hospital Corpsman, who are the medics for the Marines.
"was J D Vance willing to suck a dick for our country?"
Nah, Buttigieg had that covered.
Vicki said,
"Now i am not a big fan, never have been, of Kamala Harris. But the right's fear of her and all that she stands for is palpable."
Nobody on this planet is afraid of Kamala Harris. Quite the opposite.
Harris was placed in various positions by Willie Brown, a very smart politician, because She was sucking his dick at the time. Somebody said she graduated from "a top law school." Really? Howard ?
To be sure, he was an enlisted combat correspondent for a MC air unit for six months, and not involved in combat (kind of like Al Gore Jr.)
Dig deeper, my friend. First of all, Gore was "in the army/vietnam" for the sole puurpose of political resume enhancement. He was in-country less than half the length of a normal tour of duty. His occupational specialty was irrelevant as he probably did no work of any kind.
Some public affairs people make coffee, some write press releases, some assist news media and some imbed with combat operators in the same manner as war correspondents. Injury and death is not unknown.
For instance: You might be familiar with the name Dale Dye (he was the military technical advisor for Band of Brothers, The Pacific, Masters of the Air and Platoon.
Dale is a retired USMC Captain. He spent his first 13 years in the Corps as an enlisted man, mainly in public affairs. During multiple tours in Vietnam, Dale was awarded the Bronze Star (V) and three Purple Hearts (not "John Kerry Purple Hearts"). He is also "mentioned in dispatches" (described while under fire in Hue, by Phil Caputo in "A Rumor of War").
Not saying Vance's experience was anything like Dale Dye's but it sure as hell was nothing like Al Gore's. Marines, regardless of occupational specialty, are first and foremost, Marines.
Michael K
she got a BA from Howard. Was an affirmative Action (through its Legal Education Opportunity Program (LEOP)) admit to Hastings
A good (USNWR 82# and 72% Bar pass, versus 12# and 95.5% pass for CAL Law(Boalt)) but not great school. UCLA, UCD, and UCI beat it as well
Inga Meant to answer last night. Good for your daughter. Corpsmen are generally not sissies. They go unarmed into combat and expose themselves to all the dangers. They have my utmost respect. Semper Fi.
minnesota farm guy said...
Inga Meant to answer last night. Good for your daughter. Corpsmen are generally not sissies. They go unarmed into combat and expose themselves to all the dangers
the unarmed part is a historic approach, but only useful if the other side honors the concept. I know for a fact that SF Medics went armed in Nam, and I know that Army nurses went armed in A-Stan.
wiki:
Combat medics of the United States military may put themselves at greater risk than many other roles on the battlefield. In recent conflicts, the enemies faced by a professional army (often insurgents) may not have respect for the laws of war and may actively target combat medics for the significant value they have in keeping the unit combat-effective. Since the non-combatant status granted to medics may not always be respected, modern combat medics carry weapons for personal defense and in most Western armies are virtually indistinguishable from regular infantrymen.
I knew the broad outlines of Dale Dye's career, NKP, but had no idea he was in Public Affairs. And I would expect someone who served multiple tours in VN to accumulate some impressive awards and decorations.
Be that as it may, I get a strong whiff of Republican PA guy on a short-term fool's errand good, Democrat PA guy on a short-term fool's errand bad.
Just so you know, I'm not calling Dye, Gore, or Vance fools--only the politicians and generals who got them into those messes.
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