From "A male birth control gel is one step closer to reality, and that’s worth celebrating" (The Guardian).
ADDED: It bothers me to think of this stuff spread on men's shoulder blades. Is there to be no more hugging?
June 9, 2024
"The trial found that after 15 weeks of applying a teaspoon amount of the gel on their shoulder blades once a day, 86% of trial participants had sperm counts low enough to prevent pregnancy...."
"Why has it taken so long to get this far? Partly because male birth control is tricky from a biological point of view. Women produce one egg a month. Men, meanwhile, are constantly producing sperm at the rate of millions a day. There have been various attempts to make a male birth control option, but they’ve all hit roadblocks. In 2016, for example, a stage II trial of a hormonal birth control injection for men was halted because of the side-effects – which included acne, mood swings and depression. One man tried to commit suicide, which is what led to the study being cut short...."
From "A male birth control gel is one step closer to reality, and that’s worth celebrating" (The Guardian).
From "A male birth control gel is one step closer to reality, and that’s worth celebrating" (The Guardian).
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"which is what led to the study being cut short...."
Being cut short was another unsuccessful method.
86% effective doesn't sound like it would be a deal-closer to me. "Less than one chance in seven, come on, baby, no worries!"
And applying a gel to your shoulder blades once a day doesn't sound as easy-peasy as something like this would have to be to have any chance of working.
It's about RAW POWER. An invisible male contraceptive gives men REPRODUCTIVE and FINANCIAL freedom and prevents women from using their bodies to trap men into years of indentured servitude - otherwise known historically as SLAVERY. Women and Democrats do NOT want this.
Don't you get that, Ann?
15 weeks of massage foreplay. What could go wrong?
14% failure rate is not effective.
86%?
This is very much like when they redefined the definition of vaccine. Now they want to redefine contraceptive.
Men need to learn how to pull out. It is the only way to be sure.
And all of the hormonal adjustments have massive side effects. Wife is much happier and healthier without hormones and it is worth the inconvenience to me.
If this gel works, the side effects are not going to be worth it.
If the gel is slippery then it's just a matter of time until guys start whacking off with it.
Women are the ones who get pregnant. No sensible women would leave birth control up to a man. He can protect himself if he doesn't want to be a father. Side effects his problem.
86% ???
so, there's ONLY A FOURTEEN PERCENT CHANCE that you'll knock her up?
I'm seeing problems with this.
There is literally no market for this product- none.
>male birth control is tricky from a biological point of view. Women produce one egg a month. Men, meanwhile, are constantly producing sperm at the rate of millions a day.<
Hmm. Really? 'Cuz we've been told for decades by the usual suspects that sexism was the reason there is no male birth control. Just checkin'.
Good Lord. That woman's picture sets the tone for the whole 'aggrieved misanthropy' piece.
"“No pharmaceutical company is willing to put up money to develop a drug if there are not people who are going to take it”......“It’s very concerning and, frankly, testimony to the sexism present in the drug development that it has taken so long to still not have an FDA-approved drug for male birth control.”
Very Concerning, you unnerstand, creep ?
The question of whether men will be willing (or will remember) to use the gel every day if it eventually gets approved, of course, is key. (Honey....where's the remote?) A drug is obviously only effective if it’s actually used. Most women, one imagines, would not rely on a man using this gel as their sole birth control method. But that’s not really the point. The point is that we are one small but significant step closer to a world in which the burden for birth control can be more equally shared. Amid a landscape where women’s reproductive rights are under assault, this is news worth celebrating. Ugh.
How are we going to have abortions if nobody is getting pregnant? I mean goddamn.
Does the gel prevent flea infestation?
"Amid a landscape where women’s reproductive rights are under assault"
Women's rights to reproduce are under assault? Where?
Does it come with an applicator that looks like a back scratcher?
Add one more thing to worry about.
Peak sperm.
Does the gel prevent flea infestation?
LOL! I thought the same thing.
Since it's graduation season, I think a great graduation gift for young men is a free vasectomy.
Tell them it's an early retirement plan.
"sperm counts low enough to prevent pregnancy"
There's going to be that one sperm with the "Little Engine that Could" attitude who will find that egg.
From there will come the next Donald Trump.
BUY OUR NEW MALE BIRTH CONTROL GEL!! IT'S MODERATELY EFFECTIVE!!
you KNOW what will give you a BETTER than 14% chance of getting out of child support?
INSISTING ON A PATERNITY TEST
https://theconversation.com/what-are-the-chances-that-your-dad-isnt-your-father-24802
If you have read, heard or watched anything on this question, you will have encountered many estimates, from 9% to more than 30%.
The success rate of condoms in actual use is only 87%.
Condoms for the win.
One more step in the great emasculation journey of the left.
Just marry a liberal woman and get it over with...
a great graduation gift for young men is a free vasectomy.
If you lust for me, and empathize with the State, you'll neuter yourself.
trap men into years of indentured servitude - otherwise known historically as SLAVERY. Women and Democrats... want this.
#HerToo #DemocRats #HeeHaw
That said, judge a woman by her sex and sex-correlated gender attributes (e.g. sexual orientation), and the principles of her character.
"pulling out" is not that effective as birth control and certainly less enjoyable) as there is something called "pre-c*m" (essentially leakage when aroused).
I have had lots of unprotected sex in my lifetime and I attribute the one time I got a woman pregnant (just my second wife) to a low sperm count (theorized, not proven by a test) caused by working in hot kitchens most of my career, with the most heat coming at waist level.
Women are the ones who get pregnant. No sensible women would leave birth control up to a man.
Well, exactly. But apparently, something like a million US women and girls didn't use effective contraception last year despite its ready availability, so.
I don't really like hormonal contraception, but there's no doubt that - aside from actual, real abstinence, not "let's just mess around until just before the Moment of Truth," it's the most effective method. For many years I used an IUD that was impregnated(!) with hormones, which had basically 100% efficacy as it combined the mechanical (if poorly understood) method of poking the uterine wall with something plus the hormonal method of making the body believe it's already pregnant. But that device was only recommended for women who had already had all the children they intended to have, because of possible damaging or maybe even sterilizing side effects from the poking part, I gather.
So what does a young woman who wants children someday use? The Pill made me cranky as hell and puffy - I hated it. A diaphragm wasn't too much of a pain but only had about 90% efficacy, so we combined that with the only available male contraceptive at the time, and Bob was nobody's uncle until we decided we wanted to have a baby. All of that did require dedication, advance planning, and self discipline, though.
IF (big IF) this flea and tick gel (I also had that thought!) doesn't have bad short- or long-term effects, IF it doesn't ultimately result in permanently low sperm count or a heightened proportion of damaged sperm, for instance, then I'd totally use it if I were male. It seems to me that men need all the insurance they can get these days.
But that's a big IF.
"Women are the ones who get pregnant. No sensible women would leave birth control up to a man."
Beware the Puget Sound Dudes.
Jamie:
All of that did require dedication, advance planning, and self discipline, though.
Wait. I think we've found the crux.
Not a great success rate, but also…that’s if you use it every day for months.
Jamie:
"All of that did require dedication, advance planning, and self discipline, though.
Wait. I think we've found the crux.
Ya think?
I'll never forget the high school friend who had a pregnancy scare back in the '80s, when it wasn't trivial for a teenage girl to get the Pill (especially since we were living in England at the time as military dependents - so all our health care came from the military, with a parent present, and virtually no one could drive or had a car). I asked her if they were using condoms; she said, "No, he doesn't like the way it feels!"
I was flabbergasted. What difference did that make?! He, at 17, wants to have sex with his 17yo girlfriend who cannot acquire birth control, and he thinks a little muted sensation isn't worth it?
There's added efficacy when the spreader of the gel is another male.
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