CNN's Tapper: Trump Has Reformed the GOP with More Working Class People, Including Voters of Color, Men Primarily
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"He has remade the party in his image. There are still some Republicans who are trying to take it away — like, take it back. That's over. There's no back."
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They keep focusing on education when it's really economic class, but it sounds a lot better to say that "these new Republican voters are stupid fascists," rather than, "these new Republican voters are being screwed by Bidenomics."
I am pretty affluent, I admit it, so I often find myself surrounded by affluent people, and to be honest with you, Bidenomics is working out pretty well for me, personally, but my problem is that I came from a poor working class neighborhood, eating government powdered eggs and canned chicken, the stuff they gave out before Food Stamps, growing up. Anyway, I was eating dinner last night in a fine Asian fusion restaurant and I overheard a guy defending Biden saying "Have you looked at the stock market?"
Well, our national debt is rising by about a trillion dollars every quarter, we have a multi trillion dollar deficit, whether they admit it or not, and yeah, much of that devalued currency finds its way into the stock market, not organically, through increased production and profits, drawing prudent investors, but it's parachuted into the stock market, seeking shelter, and driving up stock prices. Bonds are so risky due to the threat of higher interest rates, that stocks are the safest bet, stocks and real estate. We have had bank failures recently from regional banks being too heavily invested in US Treasuries, for one thing, so stocks it is, because investing in real estate is almost like having a job, it doesn't just sit there in the memory bank of some computer, like stocks do.
Joe Robinette Biden reminds me of two quotes from French Kings, maybe the same one, "L'etat? C'est moi!" (I am the state!) and "Aprés moi, le deluge!" (After me, the flood! as in Noah's flood.). Trump is far from perfect, but perfect is not on offer this time around.
Tapper ate at Rasika with feed Phil on Phil’s show. Jake! the crowd at Rasika must have exclaimed like extras on Cheers! Anyways, over not so small plates Jake confided he’s not optimistic they will be able to ‘save Democracy’. Perhaps he wanted to curl up in a ball over last night but I suspect he knows the fix is in…
This was evident to anyone not delusional since 2016.
I’m looking at you, Mitt Romney and Liz Cheney.
This isn't accurate. Trump 2016 was the mainstream version of Pat Buchanan a generation prior. Buchanan similarly railed against the global economy, military interventionism, and the decline of the American working class. The Reagan to G. W. Bush era Republican nominees were all globalists, yes, but there was always a Trump-like undercurrent.
My how times change, from 2002 to 2011 Pat had a show on MSNBC!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan
"He has remade the party in his image."
According to legend, Veronica wiped the sweat from [his] brow with her veil as he carried the cross to Calvary and, miraculously, an image of [his] face became emblazoned on the cloth.
Trump's got a few "super powers". One is driving his "enemies" so crazy they out themselves while also beclowning themselves. His "kryptonite" is he suffers from thin-skin which results in him making unforced errors.
He remade the Republican party by actually caring about the country and the middle-class and showing it by words AND deeds. Most political Republicans care more for the club and DC than their constituents and the country. Trump exposed all that, the "deep state", and the media fails to such an extent that it is not longer an "open secret", it has been fully exposed to the world.
The "rubes" are fed up and tired of being treated worse than illegal immigrants and criminals.
They have the causation arrow pointed the wrong direction.
Several early comments have got it and I would point even farther back to looking at John McCain, too, and how his campaign (mis)treated Sarah Palin. Trump was willing to step in front of the parade of people exiting the Democrat Party but he wasn't responsible for starting it. The Democrats have been quite vocal for going on three decades that white working class folks, and now working class to middle class of all ethnicities, are not welcome in their party.
This battle in the GOP has been going on for years. Back in the day when my mom and dad were staffing the GOP table at our county fair it was the Republican grassroots vs the Rockefeller Republicans. The division could be papered over when economic globalism was part of our overall Cold War defense policy. The attempts by GHWB and Clinton to redirect globalism into a policy to contain China was torpedoed by the Chinese themselves but the economic benefit to the one percent was too great for the Uniparty to give up. The GWOT was a partial revival of the old Cold War positioning but it was only a matter of time before the inconclusive nature of that conflict reopened the divisions.
Jim McLaughlin, Trump’s longtime pollster said: “The Republicans are united. They are behind Donald Trump.”
Er…saying it doesn’t make it so. That a significant minority of them voted for somebody who cannot win should set off alarm bells.
The unemployment rate is at a 70-year low. Oil and gas production is at an all-time high. Crime is decreasing. Deportation rates are higher than they've ever been. If Trump was running for reelection right now we'd never hear the end of how great things are.
Another good way to demarcate the differences is that the people whose wages are being forced down and whose monthly rents are being forced up by this massive immigration flow, support Trump, and those who own apartment buildings like the higher rents, and like that there are millions of workers now in the US who will not only work cheaper than Americans, but drive down the wages of the Americans that they do hire.
BTW, Trump was right about McCain.
“He has remade the party in his image…… take it back. There is no back. It’s over.”
“There is no Dana. Only Zuul.” - Ghostbusters
Many modern Democrats have picked up the philosophy of the old establishment Republicans: "I upped my income. Up yours." They're quite in favor of policies that enrich themselves while hurting people who actually work for a living. Establishment Republicans have long been the party of business owners. For decades, Democrats claimed to be the "party of the working man", but today, that only applies if someone is employed by the government.
"Trump's image" is working class minorities? I'm not sure they've really thought through what they're arguing.
Democrats appeal to Beta Boys with degrees in their back pockets, and women who have been told their entire life that they are more than they are and therefore, expect things to come for them, as if they deserve it just for being. These are women who claim to be independent, but typically follow whatever the current movement might be, in an almost clone-like manner. Like wearing pussy hats by the millions on the street.
Republicans today appeal more to Alpha Men with or without degrees in their back pockets, but more 'how to' ability in life. And women who are their own women: independent and strong.
The question becomes, are there more Beta Boys than Alpha Men and are there more Clone-women or Strong, independent women? I don't honestly know.
Also- there are women who think they are liberals, who spent their entire life as liberals who voted Democrat, but now have more in common with many views of the right than the left. They could be the determining factor. Some like to call them 'independents', but I think they're just older liberals who, out of habit, see themselves as 'on the left' and resist leaving the liberal tent because they've been told the right is all white supremacists for so long, it's stuck in their heads. It's their inner struggle between what they feel and what they think.
I can’t help but smile at this article. I have a cousin in academia who teaches at a private academy in New York and he is a registered Republican. However, ever since 2016 he’s had his panties in a knot over Trump. I listen to complaints from him - and by extension people like him - and I find myself wondering if they realize how tone deaf they are when they bitch about Trump, specifically how the Republican party got to this point. They don’t believe in fighting for anything, other than the next tax cut. We have family in the Adirondacks who sixty years ago lived in the middle of the leather industry (Gloversville, Johnstown) and policies he supports helped ship that industry overseas, putting tens of thousands of people out of work and reducing once prosperous areas into ghost towns.
If you try to explain to him his short-sightedness and how his support for policies from the globalist wing of the party, ignoring the working - class brought Trump to office. It’s akin to throwing a vampire out into the sunlight. He recoils in horror at the mere mention of it. His biggest problem and this also goes for the never Trumpers, the Lincoln Project and all of these “think” tanks, they’re simply enraged at the fact no one is listening to them anymore. My cousin is also a big one for “Why don’t we just send troops to settle the problem” types and then he gets uncomfortable when I point out that unlike him, I will be the one who puts on the uniform and gets sent there. If remaking the party means shutting these people out of the process, so much the better.
Trump owns the Republican party because all other reasonable options were eliminated by by both parties.
"In his image"...such bullshit. Like God creating Adam. As if we are mindless worshipers.
The vilified Tea Party started before Trump entered the scene. Trump filled the leadership void of a movement that had already started.
CNN and the libtard media also claims Trump, "convinced his voters that Biden was not legitimately elected in 2020." Bullshit. We all saw the absentee ballot fraud being implemented throughout 2020/COVID. We watched on election night when the counting stopped. We watched the slow roll covered window counting over the next two weeks.
We saw it for ourselves. Trump didn't have to convince us.
Irony is the new "highly educated" elite Democrats are nothing but mindless sheeple. The follow the same lockstep bullshit. And it's mostly women. Go figure. Wo-unto-man.
I'd rather hang out with the fishermen and lepers, that the Pharisees and Sadducees any day.
As others have said, the change was happening before Trump. He stepped in front of an evolving parade.
He spoke for the deplorables. He exposed the deep state. He did some good things while in office.
But his remaking of the GOP also carried costs. His approach to Covid was foolish. He lost in 2018, 2020, and 2022, weakening the party. He made politics about him, not policy--galvanizing the base, turning off moderates. While he did not succumb to the deep state, they distracted him endlessly and he failed to drain the swamp. Judges aside, any gains he made in office were easily undone. Remaking the GOP by jettisoning any thought of smaller government is all well and good as electoral strategy, but the problems of big government and massive debt remain--what, if anything, does Trump want to do about that? There's a chance Trump II, if he miraculously gets elected, will really reverse the invasion, but it's a small chance. Without a supportive Congress, Trump II won't be able to do too much in any case; it's not clear he has any clue or is making any effort to get his coalition together--the supposedly remade party is not really a functioning organization. As a manager in office, Trump was inept, not least by picking people out to stab him in the back--has he learned anything, and does he even think there was anything to learn?
Trump or no Trump, the remaking of the party is in a way inevitable. I doubt it can remake the country.
"He remade the Republican party by actually caring about the country and the middle-class and showing it by words AND deeds."
This is your mythology but none of it was true. Actually, he worked hard to steal land from the working class to give it to rich Taiwanese conmen.
https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/business/2023/11/10/what-happened-to-foxconn-in-wisconsin-a-timeline/71535498007/
Trump is a champion "of the working class" until some rich Asian man wants to take his house. 😂🤣😂
I'm shocked that CNN is admitting that a political realignment is happening and that the Republican party is becoming the party of the working and middle-class. And that they are gaining minority support.
I've said this before, I'm old enough to remember when most of Trump's policies were mainstream leftist dogma. NAFTA was just a way for manufactures to evade environmental and labor laws while exploiting cheap labor cost in Mexico. Which reminds me, I was talking to a friend from Mexico last night and he told me that until recently a doctor in Mexico made about the same amount of money as someone working a McDonalds in the US. Remember the fight over saving the steel industry? Concerns about the dangers of being reliant on other countries for such a basic commodity were dismissed. Same with computer chips. If we went to war with China today we would lose. China would simply out produce us. And activate the numerous sleeper cells they have most certainly planted in the US to sabotage infrastructure such as power stations, railroads, water supplies, etc.
I just don't see a single Democrat candidate talking about real things anymore. They've become so caught up with their narratives and their niche interests, and their partisan attack machine, while they studiously ignore things that cannot be ignored by sane people with any sense of self-preservation. Like thousands of unknown foreigners streaming over our border every day, uncontrolled and un-checked, or a metastasizing national debt, or runaway inflation, of out-of-reach healthcare.
Increasingly, the Republican Party has become the party of people that are paying attention. And working class people, whether it's blue or white-collar, are not left with many choices when it comes to paying attention, for the purposes of survival and raising a family. And that seems to be what the Democrats want to offer: The luxury of pretending you don't have to. But you know: You can ignore reality for a while, but you can never ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
@D.D. Driver
I don't see anything about it in the article you linked to, but I'm guessing somebody's property was taken using eminent domain? In order to bring manufacturing jobs to the US. Wow, what a gotcha.
The GOPe has been irrelevant for some time and it is now officially dead with the announced retirement of Mitch McConnell. Consequently, Jake Tapper's opinion is also a sky-is-blue irrelevancy. What's interesting is the future course of organized labor. If Donald Trump owns the working class, what happens to the AFL-CIO and the billions of union dues they lavish on any Democrat no matter how corrupt, incompetent, or treasonous? Will the Trump-aligned rank and file recapture their unions from the slimebucket professional organizers who haven't represented their interests in decades? Can they succeed given the dilution of their bargaining power in the face of millions of illegals seeking to replace them?
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel?
Did you get Crayons with that?
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel?
Did you get Crayons with that?
Let it be absolutely clear: the voters of the Republican party were offered a broadly reasonable candidate who could probably have won over a lot of undecided or middle of the road voters from the Democrats, but even when presented with such an option, they still chose the craziness of Trump.
Trump was a choice, not an inevitable candidate.
Trump owns his people. True, you can't rape those that willingly bend over.
The election of 2012 is the key one to look at- Obama won re-election with 8% unemployment. When the GOP showed they couldn't win an election in that environment, it was clear something had to change or the GOP would never win another election in my lifetime, and if it weren't for Donald Trump, that is exactly what was going to happen. Show me a single GOP candidate outside of Donald Trump that can win the support of working class people?
"Trump's image" is working class minorities?
The media's focus on his orange skin makes him a person of color.
Voters of Color? Orange? Rainbow as in albinophobia? African-American as in Musk et al? Perhaps 1-2 Americans in Democratic legacy.
All this is just absurd CNN blather. Trump attracts more working class people of all kinds. That includes blacks and other minorities. This is the 3rd time he's done it. That's because Trump pushes policies that will help them. All people like Jeb do is spell their name "Yeb" or show off their wife, or like Haley talk about how much they love minorities.
That a significant minority of them voted for somebody who cannot win should set off alarm bells.
Trump is winning primaries by a factor of 2 to 3 over Haley (VT weirdos notwithstanding). If it was anyone else, this would be evidence of their incredible, overwhelming popularity! As a reminder, Trump won only 44% of the primary votes in the 2016 campaign, yet won the Presidency. In the 2020 campaign, Biden won only 51.6% of the primary votes (and in fact won a much lower percentage until most other candidates dropped out, winning more than 50% of the votes from any one state only twice by this point), yet "won" the Presidency.
Working class people are being raped alright, by inflation, wage competition from criminal aliens, and high rents, and it’s Biden doing the raping? I am highly amused to see Democrats arguing for trickle down economics and the domino theory in foreign policy.
It’s touching though, to hear Howard’s concern for the working class. It probably feels genuine to him.
Though wealthy, Trump has always been a man of the people.
That's what happens when your business depends on blue collar labor.
And also when you're a fairly centrist guy at heart.
Lower illegal immigration protects American labor.
'True, you can't rape those that willingly bend over.'
I don't think 'Fingers Joe' had Tara Reade bend over...
"I don't see anything about it in the article you linked to, but I'm guessing somebody's property was taken using eminent domain? In order to bring manufacturing jobs to the US. Wow, what a gotcha."
You don't see the picture of Taiwan Don with a shovel scooping up the dirt that used to belong to the working class?
Question: how many "job" did Taiwan Don create by stealing the land of working class.
Over-compensating Non-combat "vet" Howitzer Howard: "Trump owns his people. True, you can't rape those that willingly bend over."
At least you tried.
Trump was not really an early version of Buchanan at all, despite some inevitable policy prescription overlaps.
Here's Trump in 1986:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wVsAir5fDbs&pp=ygUZVHJ1bXAgbGV0dGVybWFuIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D
Here's Trump in 1992:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv-BaDbGHuE&pp=ygUZVHJ1bXAgbGV0dGVybWFuIGludGVydmlldw%3D%3D
So from now on, every GOP presidential candidate needs to be an obnoxious asshole who alienates the very people he needs to persuade? And GOP voters are now all basically a Jerry Springer Show audience?
Ayn Rand used first-hander and second-hander to distinguish between
producers who confront and rearrange physical world to support human life and
parasites dreaming of power to control such producers.
I find That so clarifying.
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Tapper ate at Rasika with feed Phil on Phil’s show. Jake! the crowd at Rasika must have exclaimed like extras on Cheers! Anyways, over not so small plates Jake confided he’s not optimistic they will be able to ‘save Democracy’. Perhaps he wanted to curl up in a ball over last night but I suspect he knows the fix is in…
More people will see Jake on Phil's show than will likely ever see him on CNN.
I'm shocked that CNN is admitting that a political realignment is happening and that the Republican party is becoming the party of the working and middle-class.
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I read that CNN is exploring change to their business model -
will their new awareness factor in?
“What's interesting is the future course of organized labor. If Donald Trump owns the working class, what happens to the AFL-CIO and the billions of union dues they lavish on any Democrat no matter how corrupt, incompetent, or treasonous? Will the Trump-aligned rank and file recapture their unions from the slimebucket professional organizers who haven't represented their interests in decades? Can they succeed given the dilution of their bargaining power in the face of millions of illegals seeking to replace them?”
The unions provided two things to the Dems: money and manpower. They really don’t provide that much money anymore, esp as compared to other funding sources, esp billionaires and centa-millionaires. They still probably need Jewish money, but how much longer is a question… And outside government unions, they no longer provide much manpower to the Dems. We are starting to see the private sector unions moving towards the Republicans, which means, most importantly, their organized manpower. AFL-CIO itself isn’t going to swing towards the Republicans anytime soon, because union growth is in govt. unions, who benefit from Dem policies.
The self-proclaimed "highly-educated" ivory tower liberal elite have zero interest in the lives of the working class. They absolutely do not want to give up any power to the working class.
This is especially true in our liberal, female dominated education system. If the working class gains power college students, their families, and tax payers might have to be treated like customers, instead of peasants who should feel privileged to pay to to be in the presence of a PHD.
Public Schools and liberal school boards might have to listen to local tax paying parents who don't want blow job instruction books in the 5th grade library.
It's not much different than the Catholic Church freaking out when Martin Luther translated The Bible into German. They didn't want peasants actually reading The Bible.
It's a never ending battle for the ages.
The ”Babylon Bee” identifies the collateral damage to Haley’s dropping out:
”A somber mood fell over one of the nation's foremost defense contractors this morning, as Raytheon lowered its flags to half-staff after Nikki Haley announced she was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race.
The aerospace technology corporation, which had been holding out hope that the world would enter a new era of highly profitable war, destruction, and death with the onset of World War III, was devastated by this morning's news that Haley had suspended her campaign.“
Notice all the media have to talk about is Jan 6th - and how Trump thinks he won the 2020 election.
(mind crime!)
over
and
over
and
over...
that's all the media(D) have. over and over.
Jan 6th was a Riot. Not an insurrection.
Trump and millions of people still think the left cheated.
Get over it - Soviet mind-crime leftists.
So the "Rethuglican" party is becoming the party of the grubby proletariat? As Howard Cosell might have said, "Who knew? I've got to know!"
Well the Dim's loss of the grubby proletariat is what happens when you seek to rise above your raising. The Democrat party has abandoned its former base, leaving only sneering condescension behind.
Another poster: "He remade the Republican party by actually caring about the country and the middle-class and showing it by words AND deeds." This is your mythology but none of it was true."
The poster is right for a lot of reasons - Mythology indeed. MAGA ignores the fact that Trump reduced revenue (through tax cuts that favored businesses and high income earners) without the same cuts to government spending. That made everyone happy in the short term – more money in your paychecks, good 401Ks, no cuts to benefits like social security, VA, etc.
But in the long term, Trump added $8.4 trillion to our national debt, with a debt to GDP ratio at its highest since WWII. Dude spent money he didn't have like there was no tomorrow, and MAGA loved it because their retirement accounts looked good and he talked their language.
Populism has a way of dumbing the senses. There are a lot of populist fools today, who will wonder in 5-10 years how they got things so wrong...
Trump does best in places with lower levels of college education and income. Trump trended slightly worse among younger voters compared to their older counterparts.
The Democrats should be able to run stronger with less educated voters because they have more need for effective social democracy and in particular government programs that make their lives less economically precarious. The plutocratic reactionaries that actually control Trump economic policies increase precariousness and leave the less educated and less skilled to the vagaries of market fundamentalism —the plutocracy's god.
The Democrats should also run stronger with older voters because they are highly dependent on the existing social democracy programs of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid (the funder of old age nursing home care) which House Republicans have been waging a relentless and not-too-hidden campaign against in the current Congress. (Hitting on these vulnerabilities should be more effective than the endless chanting about 92 felony counts.)
Undoubtedly there are many Democratic campaign advisers who are going to advise caution on confronting Republican perfidy on policy. However, the hoped for criminal trials are unlikely to happen — so that out is now looking like a closed exit. The Democrats are going to have to run on appealing to the people's basic best economic interests — they used to be pretty good at this. And it is going to have to be more than just one aging 81-year-old incumbent blowing on the trumpet. An all-party effort is required.
Working people were thrown out of the Democrat coalition during the Obama years. They needed somewhere to go, and Trump provided it. Corporations and country club Republicans might object, but they’ve been caught sending their campaign contributions to the Democrats anyway, so it’s not as though they’ll be missed.
This year Jews have found themselves being told to coexist in the Democrat Party with people who yell out “Death to Jews,” or they can damned well leave. Orthodox Jews have started to move into the Republican Party, though somehow I have trouble seeing secular Jews following them.
Ayn Rand used first-hander and second-hander to distinguish between
producers who confront and rearrange physical world to support human life and
parasites dreaming of power to control such producers.
I find That so clarifying.
Me too. Great metaphor.
There's some overlap with the "Atoms vs Electrons" dichotomy, but not exactly. A programmer writing process-control or robotics software for factory automation, or a radiologist reading mammograms on a high-resolution computer monitor, may never touch the atoms himself but is certainly a first-hander.
There are few if any jobs where the arrow points in the other direction. Ditch diggers and horse wranglers get more respect from me than second-hander government workers and politicians. I suppose I can summon grudging recognition for, say, a forest ranger who may fight fires and build trails in his day to day work, but is in government service primarily to keep a lid on the unruly public and their misuse and destruction of natural resources. Even those guys move into the air-conditioned office and start sending emails all day and building their little bureaucratic empires just as soon as they can....
I don't see anything about it in the article you linked to, but I'm guessing somebody's property was taken using eminent domain? In order to bring manufacturing jobs to the US. Wow, what a gotcha.
If so, shame on everyone involved. That's usually Democrats scratching the backs of their cronies and donors, but Republicans are not above it either. I would have thought better of Trump, but maybe that's the usual New York modus operandi, and he doesn't realize how much it is hated by ordinary people.
LLR-democratical Rich: "The Democrats should be able to run stronger with less educated voters because they have more need for effective social democracy and in particular government programs that make their lives less economically precarious. The plutocratic reactionaries that actually control Trump economic policies increase precariousness and leave the less educated and less skilled to the vagaries of market fundamentalism —the plutocracy's god."
LOL
i'm betting you didn't even blush when you hit "publish" on this moronic pap!
I cant really blame you for burying your BS under increasing piles of crap. What else can you do?
VA Lawyer Mark: "So from now on, every GOP presidential candidate needs to be an obnoxious asshole who alienates the very people he needs to persuade? And GOP voters are now all basically a Jerry Springer Show audience?"
You seem to have a very delicate nature and believe politics is beanbag and perhaps you've been asleep for the past 60 years while the left/LLR-left/New Soviets take us over the cliffs while spouting marxist rhetoric.
I wish the best for you.
"You don't see the picture of Taiwan Don with a shovel scooping up the dirt that used to belong to the working class?"
I see a photograph of Donald Trump participating in a ground breaking ceremony. What I don't see in the article is any indication of how the land was acquired and from who. Perhaps the land was obtained using eminent domain and the land owner felt he was under compensated, perhaps the owner(s) were working class. The article doesn't say. Perhaps the owner was a multi-national corporation that made a tidy profit on the sale. Or a working class guy who was glad to sell it for the money offered. Or a multi-millionaire plastic surgeon who likes to dabble in real estate. I don't know because the article doesn't give any facts concerning the property. It discusses a company that made promises concerning the number of jobs that were going to be created if they opened a factory and how they ended up creating fewer jobs than anticipated, which can happen for any number of reasons.
"The plutocratic reactionaries that actually control Trump economic policies increase precariousness and leave the less educated and less skilled to the vagaries of market fundamentalism —the plutocracy's god."
Actually, Trump is not about market fundamentalism. If he were, then the plutocracy would not be trying to destroy him. Bringing manufacturing back to the US, creating energy independence, and securing the border is about opposing globalism, raising wages for the middle and working classes, and reducing inflation. Your analysis of of Trump is informed by a incorrect understanding of the current situation. Or your just a shill.
The Left champions lowest common denominator culture, behaviors that devastate lives and total dependence of the individual on the State. It funds minimum wage, disingenuous, empty-headed, amateur punditry (hi, Rich!).
Rogering the USA is their main objective.
" they have more need for effective social democracy and in particular government programs that make their lives less economically precarious"
Or maybe just stop flooding the oucntry with cheap labor, and let them earn decent wages could be a thing. Republicans are never going to out handout the Democrats, and that's not the point.
"The Democrats should also run stronger with older voters because they are highly dependent on the existing social democracy programs of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid"
Once again, you have no idea. It makes me wonder if "you" = ChatGPT
"Trump reduced revenue (through tax cuts that favored businesses and high income earners)"
A well-documented lie. You can repeat it as often as you like, it still won't be true.
Maybe working class people are tired of sending their sons off to fight endless wars, that's possible too. And felt deeply betrayed by Biden's feckless exit from Afghanistan, basically nullifying the sacrifices our sons had made their for two decades.
Of course Blinken made the comment that we were planning a war with Russia, not in so many words, and we had to get them out of harm's way, as it would have been child's play for Putin to actually arm up the Taliban, which is why they lied about Russian bounties. Generally a real fear, however paranoid, is behind a particular Democrat lie. For instance, they knew that they had sent Navalny to run in Russian presidential elections, so why couldn't Putin do the same thing, and who is this Trump guy, anyway?
Yeah, let's talk about January 6
The files also raise questions about whether the FBI pursued a larger, secret effort to encourage political violence in the run-up to the 2020 election. At least one undercover FBI agent and two informants in the Michigan case were also involved in stings centering on plots to assassinate the governor of Virginia and the attorney general of Colorado.
The FBI refused to answer a list of questions. “Unfortunately, due to ongoing litigation, we are unable to comment,” said Gabrielle Szlenkier, a spokesperson for the FBI in Michigan. Robeson, through his lawyer, also declined to comment. - The Intercept
The unemployment rate is at a 70-year low. Oil and gas production is at an all-time high. Crime is decreasing. Deportation rates are higher than they've ever been.
/shakes head and walks away
How can one even start a conversation with someone who actually believes these things?
This is your mythology but none of it was true. Actually, he worked hard to steal land from the working class to give it to rich Taiwanese conmen.
Instead of focusing on one item - and ignoring everything else - maybe you could point out just what the Democratic Party's been doing for the working class.
Let's compare and contrast.
Trump has put backbone into the Republican Party and sent the RINOs off to NeverLand, where they can play at being me-too Democrats. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Nikki will never be Trump's VP. She's a RINO.
Keynesian Econ has been adored by big spending governments. Spend a bunch and get 2 times back in multiplayer growth.
Yet now we spend a trillion and get back 200 MM in growth. Then the king dem says “ hurrah we are growing the economy.
A negative multiplier indicates reality does not match theory, probably because government spending makes lawmaker’s children rich, like the first flake, Hunter. Government provides high income low ability jobs for the skanks of the rich pols.
Stop the stealing, vote for Trump. Vote Beiden, why choose the lesser of the two evils.
Transparent prosecutorial attack is just the Democrats way of telling you that the voters love you.
Mark said...
"So from now on, every GOP presidential candidate needs to be an obnoxious asshole who alienates the very people he needs to persuade? And GOP voters are now all basically a Jerry Springer Show audience?"
As usual you're looking through the big end of the telescope. He's only obnoxious because he's holding you up to ridicule. He doesn't alienate anybody except those of you who aren't going to vote for him anyway. No. GOP voters are on to your con.
What I've always admired about people like Althouse and Murry etc. is their ability to flip the accepted wisdom and question it from a rational point of view. None of you progressives here can do that. When your accepted wisdom is questioned your first response isn't, "Maybe they have a point. Let's examine it from that direction." No. Your first instinct is to ridicule.
Mark said...
"So from now on, every GOP presidential candidate needs to be an obnoxious asshole who alienates the very people he needs to persuade? And GOP voters are now all basically a Jerry Springer Show audience?"
As usual you're looking through the big end of the telescope. He's only obnoxious because he's holding you up to ridicule. He doesn't alienate anybody except those of you who aren't going to vote for him anyway. No. GOP voters are on to your con.
What I've always admired about people like Althouse and Murry etc. is their ability to flip the accepted wisdom and question it from a rational point of view. None of you progressives here can do that. When your accepted wisdom is questioned your first response isn't, "Maybe they have a point. Let's examine it from that direction." No. Your first instinct is to ridicule.
Iman said...
"The Left champions lowest common denominator culture, behaviors that devastate lives and total dependence of the individual on the State. It funds minimum wage, disingenuous, empty-headed, amateur punditry (hi, Rich!).
Rogering the USA is their main objective."
They're cultural biggots that's for sure. It's like they don't know their own history. They never question the accepted wisdom. In Rich's case the sun comes up in the morning and history starts when he opens his eyes it ends every night when he shuts them.
“Forget it, Jake… it’s tapped out town.”
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