Althouse: Biden and Trump make their pitch to Hispanic voters.

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Biden and Trump make their pitch to Hispanic voters.

Biden:

Trump:

Trump's approach — unlike Biden's — is somewhat reminiscent of the 1996 Democratic Convention:

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Gusty Winds বলেছেন...: Oh God. Biden does the lean into the microphone and whisper thing. What a douchebag.
Also, Hispanics didn't put Biden in the White House. Absentee voter fraud did.

Trump doing his little arm wiggle dance is not nearly as cringe as Hillary and Dems doing the cliché Macarena. Trumps ad is in Spanish. That's smart. It shows respect to their culture. La Familia!!!

Then there's the fact that Trump actually cares about Hispanics. Democrats pretend to. Biden is more than likely appealing to illegal immigrants who 1) pad the electoral population in their districts, and 2) will soon be allowed to vote to keep Dems in power.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:০৮ AM
wildswan বলেছেন...: Nice contrast and makes a point. But it's no use trying to warn the Dims that they have Mumble Guy running against Let's Have Some Fun Guy. In my opinion, the Dims are counting on vote harvesting among welfare dependents and illegals. Or even among legals like the 30,000 PAROLES they are flying in every month who are getting driver's licenses (and are thereby automatically signed up as voters in many states) and Employment cards immediately and who are reporting their addresses so that a data bank exists for voter harvesting.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:১১ AM
Original Mike বলেছেন...: Biden: "I need you badly".

Why would anybody vote based on what Biden needs? Voters should vote their own needs.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:১২ AM
The Vault Dweller বলেছেন...: Biden should just send his wife out to tell them all they are delicious breakfast tacos again. While she is doing that she should make sure to use the term LatinX to be inclusive. Latinos love the term LatinX.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:১৩ AM
Jersey Fled বলেছেন...: Biden: Here’s all the free stuff we gave you.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:১৪ AM
Kakistocracy বলেছেন...: Trump's leadership PAC, Save America, spent more on legal expenses than it took in last month, a new FEC filing shows The PAC spent nearly $5.6 million on legal bills in February, exceeding it's total receipts ~ Politico
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/20/trump-leadership-pac-legal-bills-00148184

Well that's no way to run an airline. Keep sending him your insulin money, MAGA. He needs it for his $200,000 a day legal fees.

Billionaire John Paulson to hold megadonor fundraiser for Donald Trump ~ NY Post
"The fundraiser will benefit the Trump campaign, the Republican National Committee and Save America, a group that has shelled out more than $50mn for the former president’s legal bills."

Can’t wait to hear how the whole “Trump is the only politician that fights the establishment and cares about the little guy” crowd feel about this..; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:১৫ AM
Steve বলেছেন...: This might just be the saddest thing I have ever seen.

This is Gov of Nebraska tests his appeal in New Hampshire levels of political theater.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:৩৬ AM
MadisonMan বলেছেন...: Biden mumbles.
Biden: Low energy.
Trump: Not-so-low energy.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:৪৬ AM
tommyesq বলেছেন...: Ask not what i, or your country, can do for you; ask what you can do for ME!; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:৪৭ AM
JK Brown বলেছেন...: Showing a bunch of non-Hispanic people trying to do a popular pop song dance isn't the same as Trump's commercial

Although, within seconds of watching the Trump commercial at the Truth Social link, I got spam campaign texts. And those a-holes are getting a bit aggressive in language which for me is "no, I will not read or support or donate".; ২১/৩/২৪, ১১:৪৮ AM
tim maguire বলেছেন...: Trump's is a lot more fun. And while Biden listed actual Hispanics in his administration and actual things they've done, it's too blatant. It should be the stronger message, but it comes across as just pandering.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:০১ PM
Darkisland বলেছেন...: There are 3 groups that make up the so-called "hispanic" voters

Puerto Rican located in NE and Florida though they are really 2 groups

Cuban-Americans located mainly in Florida

They have virtually nothing in common with each other. The only common denominator is Spanish but even there Mexican Americans speak a very different Spanish from Puerto Ricans.

Ancestrys are very different as well.

Seems to me that the wise politician would be speaking to each group addressing each groups concerns.

We all recognize that saying "all blacks look alike" would be incredibly patronizing and demeaning.

This mindset of "they all speak Spanish, they are all the same" is no less patronizing and demeaning.

Stop it.

John Henry; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:১০ PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...: Wow. Quite a contrast. Biden mumbling about "Let's eat Trump" because that's all he can give his left wing audience (One Yelp user branded Biden "genocide Joe" after his visit to El Portal in Phoenix, Arizona) while Trump provides a positive vision for the future in Spanish, a future that we all remember as the actual things he did in his first term.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:১৩ PM
Begonia বলেছেন...: First of all, you're comparing a speech Biden made to (who?) presumably party operatives to a polished advertisement. So it's not apples to apples. I couldn't find any polished advertisements other than this one, featuring Harris:
on instagram.

It's an interesting contrast of music.

The music in that Trump ad (and also the flags that we saw people waving)--is specifically pandering to the Cuban-american vote with those tropical beats.

The music in the Biden instagram ad is the sound of more Mexican romantic popular music of the past. It's kind of like saying, "think of your parents and grandparents".; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:১৪ PM
Skeptical Voter বলেছেন...: Biden tells Hispanics "I need you". Hispanics tell Biden, "Adios muchacho".; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:১৮ PM
Darkisland বলেছেন...: Rich,

That is why I send cash, not checks, directly to our president emeritus in MarALago. Along with a cover letter stating it is a gift, not a campaign donation. Asking him to use it for whatever he wants suggesting lunch with Melania, legal fees, golf balls or a thing else that strikes his fancy.

I also send cash to mtg in Rome GA but that's a campaign contribution.

I do not send a penny to any of the various party scams ans especially not to win blue or actred.

John Henry; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:১৮ PM
Darkisland বলেছেন...: I also object when justice Sotomayor is identified as hispanic or latino.

She is, I guess, depending on what those words mean.

But she is really Puerto Rican (sort of. NYorican to be precise)

Why not identify her as such?

John Henry; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:২৩ PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...: Trump's leadership PAC...whine...blah blah...bleat...

Yeah if my candidate was a braindead pedophile pandering needily for votes, I'd--

Well nevermind. I actually wouldn't change the subject. I'd keep my stupid yap shut.

That's Rich!; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:৩৩ PM
Leland বলেছেন...: If that is all Biden can attract to a campaign stop, I bet he does need them badly. I enjoyed the mural in a "Mexican" restaurant showing PoC children playing basketball. That is how you do DEI.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:৪৩ PM
PM বলেছেন...: Jose should've gone full bullshit: "Te necesito mucho."; ২১/৩/২৪, ১২:৪৭ PM
Butkus51 বলেছেন...: As fiery as Hot Sauce Hillary; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:১০ PM
lonejustice বলেছেন...: The only thing missing from Trump's ad is a picture of him eating a taco bowl and saying "I love Hispanics!"; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:১১ PM
wendybar বলেছেন...: Free breakfast tacos for all!!!; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৩৭ PM
Hassayamper বলেছেন...: Keep sending him your insulin money, MAGA. He needs it for his $200,000 a day legal fees.... Can’t wait to hear how the whole “Trump is the only politician that fights the establishment and cares about the little guy” crowd feel about this..

It's certainly on brand for the Bill-of-Attainder Democrats to crow about how much lawfare they have inflicted on a political opponent via a conspiracy to hijack their government offices for partisan political purposes. I hope they pay a horrific price for corrupting our politics in this manner.

In answer to your question - I gave Trump nothing in 2016, when I supported Gary Johnson. I also gave him nothing in 2020, even though I certainly favored him. I've given him the hard-money max this year, not because I love him but because this blatant Stalinist lawlessness cannot go unpunished. I will certainly support his legal-defense fund too, if I can.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৩৭ PM
Rabel বলেছেন...: "That is why I send cash, not checks, directly to our president emeritus in MarALago. Along with a cover letter stating it is a gift, not a campaign donation."

I'll point this out to you once again. The campaigns are required by law to report your cash gifts as campaign contributions and you simply generate additional paperwork for them and create a risk of a campaign fiance violation if they do not properly account for your attempt to beat a system intentionally designed to prevent such workarounds.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৫২ PM
Aggie বলেছেন...: If Republicans want to win, the best thing to do is get a Press Card and start attending Joe's rallies, with the cameras rolling. Then put out the un-sanitized cinéma vérité version toward the end of the network/cable news cycle, putting both their coverage and their candidate into merciless contrast.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৫৪ PM
Mary Beth বলেছেন...: The only good thing about the Biden appeal is that the campaign signs behind him said, "Latinos" not "Latinx".; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৫৯ PM
Bart Hall (Kansas, USA) বলেছেন...: I could officially qualify as "Hispanic". My grandfather came from Argentina. I don't remember a time when I did not speak Spanish, and I learnt how to read in Spanish at age 3, more than a year before I could sort out English spelling. My great grandmother was a full-blood Mattaponi, so I could officially enroll in that tribe, and get money for it. A great grandfather grew up as the playmate of King Edward VII because his father was one of Queen Victoria's most important staff. I am still (officially) a subject of the Crown.

But I refuse to play the IDENTITY-politics game so beloved of Democrats. It's toxic. It's desperate. And it's all they have, apart from the self-appointed elite, who wish to do very well for themselves by pretending to do "good" for a dog's breakfast of identity groups.

But other than "show", who's actually accomplishing things for blacks? Lyndon Johnson, when signing the Welfare Reform Act back in 1967, "This'll keep those Niggers voting for us for 200 years." But after only 50 years, solid black men (of which there are a great many() really started to wise up and began voting Republican [25% in both Pennsylvania and Ohio]. Now the women folk are starting to see things the same way.

"Hispanics" are beginning to vote the way I always knew "we" -- or they, or whatever -- always would. Just like the previous group of Latin culture immigrants to arrive in huge numbers, the Italians.

The Democrats will soon discover the massive political error not understanding Italians -- family values and live conservatively -- and therefore not realising that "Hispanics" would probably react, and eventually VOTE the same way.; ২১/৩/২৪, ১:৫৯ PM
Iman বলেছেন...: Bite me, Biden.; ২১/৩/২৪, ২:০৪ PM
Howard বলেছেন...: Powerful, inspired and courageous.; ২১/৩/২৪, ২:০৯ PM
JaimeRoberto বলেছেন...: Does this mean Biden is going to get handsy with Eva Longoria again?; ২১/৩/২৪, ২:৪৫ PM
Butkus51 বলেছেন...: lol, courageous

right up there with Normandy; ২১/৩/২৪, ২:৪৭ PM
Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...: Correction from "eat" to word "beat":

Wow. Quite a contrast. Biden mumbling about "Let's beat Trump" because that's all he can give his left wing audience (One Yelp user branded Biden "genocide Joe" after his visit to El Portal in Phoenix, Arizona) while Trump provides a positive vision for the future in Spanish, a future that we all remember as the actual things he did in his first term.

[Original post at 12:13 will be deleted once this posts.]; ২১/৩/২৪, ২:৫০ PM
Bruce Hayden বলেছেন...: Trump’s was much better, even to him trying to kinda dance to their music. Wonder if Biden has ever really interfaced much with the Hispanics we have out west - mostly still Mexicans and Mexican Americans, but a growing number from Central and South America. FJB Probably has dealt most with Puerto Ricans. For the most part Mexicans and Mexican Americans are a joyful, entrepreneurial, and hard working people. Trump’s ad hit that. Biden’s didn’t. It’s easy to envision Trump joyfully joining in with a neighborhood block party. Not Biden. He’d fall over, if he tried to dance, then get mad, and try to pick a fight.

I first saw this about a half a century ago. I was working at a brick factory in Boulder, CO. Hard labor all day. So hard that the CU Alumni owners could get CU students to work there. Much of the workforce was Mexican. They would come up in spring, and go back to their families there in late fall, every year. Their families back in Mexico lived very well, including having servants. But they always enjoyed the hard work. At the pug mill, which produced the wet bricks, we had maybe 5 of us stacking them on kiln cars. And once or twice an hour, a couple of the young guys would get into a stacking race, and the rest of us could kick back and smoke a cigarette. Made the days fly by. Call it machismo, but everyone enjoyed themselves. And when we had a crew plumb and brick our back yard in Phoenix a couple years ago, it was the same thing. Our previous house there was in a subdivision that was roughly 50% Hispanic. We quickly knew everyone. Everyone was friendly. And when our garage door mysteriously went up, while we were at our house in MT, our next door neighbor called us, then worked with the police to make sure nothing had been stolen. By then, we knew all of their siblings, their spouses, parents, and kids (who mostly all lived a couple miles east of us).

My partner just calls them good God fearing Catholics. She had a French father, so, not surprisingly, had family, including his brother, intermarried with them. Pushing them to oppose Trump based on abortion restrictions is just not going to work. It might with 5th generation Irish Americans, or even fallen Italian Americans like Nancy (D’Allesandro) Pelosi, but not to church attending 1st and 2nd generation Mexican Americans.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৪:২৪ PM
Bruce Hayden বলেছেন...: From the Trump commercial:

Yo Voy a Votar (I’m going to vote)
¡Por Donald Trump!
La Bona Vida (the good life)
¡Por Trump!
La Economia (the economy)
Hazlo Por Tu Familia (do it for your family)
Latinos Latinas Por Donald Trump
Aye, Aye, Aye!
Yo Voy A Votar (I’m going to vote)
¡Por Donald Trump!

Sung, all to cheerful Hispanic music, with dancing, singing, and American flags waving.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৪:৪৮ PM
Yancey Ward বলেছেন...: I didn't watch either one, but I don't need to since the Biden supporters comments in this thread basically tell me which appeal was actually effective. Thems some sour grapes.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৫:৩২ PM
Craig Mc বলেছেন...: "I need you badly"

Ask not what I can do for you, ask what you can do for me.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৫:৩৩ PM
Craig Mc বলেছেন...: Also, I might be in the minority but 1996 Hillary was objectively hot.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৫:৩৪ PM
Maynard বলেছেন...: The Trump ad was rather joyful.

I liked it.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৬:২৬ PM
JAORE বলেছেন...: "If you don't vote for Joe, you ain't a taco."
- (Not that kind of) Doctor Jill Biden; ২১/৩/২৪, ৬:৪৩ PM
Rocco বলেছেন...: Craig Mc said...
“Also, I might be in the minority but 1996 Hillary was objectively hot.”

The first half of that statement is correct.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৯:০২ PM
Mikey NTH বলেছেন...: My siter in law is from Columbia. Try calling her a Mexican, I dare you. They fairly natioalistic about that in South America.

And it is pretty close-minded to think that people will behave the same way because they are "people of color". Those who come here voluntarily will have a different experience from those whose ancestors came involuntarily.; ২১/৩/২৪, ৯:২১ PM
Mr. Forward বলেছেন...: "Need someone's hand to lead me through the night
I need someone's arms to hold and squeeze me tight
Now, when the night begins, I'm at an end
Because I need your love so bad

I need some lips to feel next to mine
I need someone to stand up and tell me when I'm lyin'
And when the lights are low, and it's time to go
That's when I need your love so bad

So why don't you give it up, and bring it home to me
Or write it on a piece of paper, baby, so it can be read to me"

Fleetwood Mac; ২২/৩/২৪, ৭:২৪ AM
SweatBee বলেছেন...: The "Por Trump" example is recycled from the last election. How did he do with that demographic in 2020?

Por Trump Oct 2020; ২২/৩/২৪, ৩:০৯ PM