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"[A] homegrown campaign to persuade Michiganders to vote 'uncommitted' will measure the resistance [Biden] faces among Arab Americans, young voters, progressives and other Democrats over his stance on the war in Gaza."

"A high number of 'uncommitted' votes would send a warning to his campaign nationally and set off alarms in Michigan, which he won in 2020 but where polls show weakness against former President Donald J. Trump. A low number, by contrast, would give Mr. Biden and his Democratic allies renewed faith that he can weather the tensions and focus on campaign priorities like the economy and abortion rights.... The leaders of the movement insist they do not want to hurt Mr. Biden in the general election, but hope to persuade him that his position on Israel will hurt him politically in time for him to correct himself...."

From "Biden Faces 'Uncommitted' Vote in Michigan’s Primary. Here’s What to Watch. A protest vote against President Biden’s policies on Israel will show the extent of Democratic divisions, while Donald Trump is favored to win again as Nikki Haley presses on" (NYT).

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Temujin বলেছেন...

They're staring at becoming the US Party of Hamas.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

And the NYTimes lowers expectations for Biden again.

Sebastian বলেছেন...

Besides Jews, what do gays and lesbians think about Dems siding with Hamas?

BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...

Meh.
Democrat voters can proudly tell their children that they've pissed away their kid's future well beyond recovery.
Because feelings.

Josephbleau বলেছেন...

The anti Israel groups in Michigan have adopted the same slash and burn single issue mentality of Hamas. If they are going to win, they don’t need to send “messages”. If they sit out the primary then half of them will sit out the general. What Democrats need to win Michigan is enthusiasm for Beiden, not the exercise of power to get Joe to kowtow to the anti Israelis.

That leverage strategy is working to a degree. Beiden is mouthing a more pro Hamas policy to get Michigan votes, but it is transparently hollow and won’t change what Israel does.

mikee বলেছেন...

Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters with the radical idea that Jihad, Dhimmitude, female subordination, and death to all nonbelievers is NOT an ideology compatible with modern life, and that they should try conservative principles of limited government and individual liberty, which are a successful means of living these days, instead?

Josephbleau বলেছেন...

“ Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters with the radical idea that Jihad, Dhimmitude, female subordination, and death to all nonbelievers is NOT an ideology compatible with modern life…”

Hopefully not, that would just get them to be more Democrat. Better to leave them alone and let them not vote for Beiden.

rehajm বলেছেন...

Once again letting the factions have their fun but come August they’ll fall in line with the rest of em

RCOCEAN II বলেছেন...

IOW, they'll vote for Biden no matter what. Typical D's. Biden will just ignore them, or throw them a few meaningless words and gestures. The Genocide will continue and the Arab-American vote will go to Biden in November.

Narayanan বলেছেন...

so Trump was just 40 miles away on

February 17, 2024

Former President Donald Trump returned to southeast Michigan Saturday evening, urging his supporters to “send a signal” in the swing state that's long played a key role in his political career.

Speaking from a packed and chilly jet hangar in Waterford Township, Trump was bullish about his chances to retake the White House in 2024 and unseat Democratic rival President Joe Biden.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...

CIA will cover for those pesky votes that don't line up behind crook husk-puppet.

Big Mike বলেছেন...

What defines "high" and what defines "low"? As of 9:00 EST and with 10% reporting Joe is at nearly 79% versus "uncommitted" at 16.2% I think the Muslim threat to Joe may have been overstated.

Meanwhile Trump is leading Haley by more than 2:1 and climbing. He probably won't get to 3:1 because Michigan is an open primary. Interestingly, Biden and Trump have collected a nearly equal number of votes, with Trump behind by about 700. Not that that means very much in a primary.

Rusty বলেছেন...

Trump has Mich. by 5.1 over Biden. At this point there isn't a lot Biden can do.

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

15% currently "uncommitted".

So is the Democrat position that "Jews don't matter anywhere, Muslim Jew haters matter in MI, so screw the Jews"?

Big Mike বলেছেন...

It's 10:10 EST and Trump is more than 40 points ahead of Haley. Plus he has more votes by himself than all of the votes cast in the Democrat primary put together. However if one were to add all of Haley's votes to the Democrats' total -- reasonable since most of her voters are NeverTrump plus Democrat crossovers -- then Trump is about 80,000 votes in arrears. This should be concerning for the Trump campaign.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"Michiganders".

Also known as "criminal foreign scum".

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"Foreign" = Foe-Reign = Enemy.

walter বলেছেন...

Chuck! better get to work on those potential Pedo Pete voters.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"what do gays and lesbians think"

Are you implying, that "gays" might think one thing, while "lesbians" thought another? That's not how it works, Bigot! LGBQTXDOFLWGDXSIT:::U people ALL think exactly the same thing. Or at least, they will, once HQ has had time to consider the matter. When you need to know, you will be told. Bigot!

Jupiter বলেছেন...

... "death to all nonbelievers is NOT an ideology compatible with modern life" ...

Has it crossed your mind, mikee, that "modern life", as you purpose to lead it, is NOT an ideology compatible with death to all non-believers?

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters with the radical idea that ...".

It has been said, I believe rightly, that war is politics, carried on by other means. But that does not imply that the tactics appropriate to politics are likely to be effective in war. The signal advantage of war is that once you kill your opponents, they don't get to vote any more. This is why war is not carried out using billboards and text messages.

Quaestor বলেছেন...

mikee writes, "Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters..."

No, because Islam rejects reason and logic. Futile appeals to Muslims are a sign of weakness. Prosecute and punish wife-beating, terrorism, jihad, forced marriage, genital mutilation, and the veil. Let them understand they are in the West and subject to its laws and social obligations. If they don't like it, they may leave us for more benighted climes.

Big Mike বলেছেন...

Quaestor said...
mikee writes, "Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters..."

No, because Islam rejects reason and logic.


@Quaestor, as does pretty much every other component of what we call the American Left. They fit right in!

Big Mike বলেছেন...

Quaestor said...
mikee writes, "Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters..."

No, because Islam rejects reason and logic.


@Quaestor, as does pretty much every other component of what we call the American Left. They fit right in!

Big Mike বলেছেন...

With pretty much all of the votes counted, Trump wins his primary by almost 42 points and Biden wins his by 68 points. If the Democrats who voted for “uncommitted” sitsy home in November (they might but most probably will vote for Joe) and a very large portion of the Haley voters vote for Joe (reasonable, as I commented upthread, because her voters are comprised of NeverTrump and Democrat crossovers) then Trump is in trouble in this state. I hope his campaign is working hard on GOTV.

John henry বলেছেন...

Michigan population @10,000,000

Michigan Muslim population @250,000

Or @2.5%

Even if they all vote and vote monolithically, is that enough to move the needle?

John Henry

NKP বলেছেন...

Has any Republican dared to approach the Michigan Muslim voters with the radical idea that Jihad, Dhimmitude, female subordination, and death to all nonbelievers is NOT an ideology compatible with modern life...

This is going to happen about the same time they declare diversity is not our strength and that people who insist on being celebrated, rewarded and seen to be what they are not, need to be told to get over themselves and that the free lunch program has been cancelled.

Greg the Class Traitor বলেছেন...

John henry said...
Michigan population @10,000,000
Michigan Muslim population @250,000
Or @2.5%
Even if they all vote and vote monolithically, is that enough to move the needle?


Biden "won" MI by less than 2.5% in 2020. If they just all stayed home instead of voting D, that would flip that election