... I start a conversation with ChatGPT:
Me:
What are some movies where someone throws food at somebody?
ChatGPT:
Here are some movies where someone throws food at somebody:
"The Help" (2011) - In this drama, the character Hilly Holbrook throws a chocolate pie at the character Minny Jackson.
"Mrs. Doubtfire" (1993) - In this comedy, the character Daniel Hillard (played by Robin Williams) throws a piece of fruit at his ex-wife's new boyfriend during a dinner party.
"Not Another Teen Movie" (2001) - In this parody film, a character named Ricky Lipman throws a cafeteria tray of food at his ex-girlfriend during a lunchroom argument.
"She's All That" (1999) - In this teen romantic comedy, a character named Zack Siler (played by Freddie Prinze Jr.) throws a plate of food at his best friend Dean Sampson during a school lunchroom fight.
"Mean Girls" (2004) - In this teen comedy, the character Regina George (played by Rachel McAdams) throws a tray of food at the character Cady Heron (played by Lindsay Lohan) during a lunchroom confrontation.
These are just a few examples, but there are many more movies where someone throws food at somebody.
Me:
You forgot "Days of Heaven," where Richard Gere throws soup at a guy.
ChatGPT:
You're right! Thank you for pointing that out. "Days of Heaven" (1978), directed by Terrence Malick, is a classic drama film in which Richard Gere's character throws a bowl of soup at his boss and then throws the same man onto a table, causing food and dishes to be thrown around.
Me:
Can you think of any more? I'm trying to make a long list.
ChatGPT
Sure, here are a few more movies where someone throws food at somebody:
"The Breakfast Club" (1985) - In this teen drama, the character John Bender (played by Judd Nelson) throws a piece of bread at the character Claire Standish (played by Molly Ringwald) during lunch.
"My Big Fat Greek Wedding" (2002) - In this romantic comedy, the character Toula (played by Nia Vardalos) throws a bundt cake at her fiance Ian (played by John Corbett) during a family argument.
"Bridesmaids" (2011) - In this comedy, the character Annie (played by Kristen Wiig) throws a giant cookie at the character Ted (played by Jon Hamm) during a heated argument.
"The Nutty Professor" (1996) - In this comedy, the character Sherman Klump (played by Eddie Murphy) throws a plate of food at a dinner guest after they make an insulting remark.
"Fried Green Tomatoes" (1991) - In this drama, the character Evelyn Couch (played by Kathy Bates) throws a plate of food at a group of young women who steal her parking space.
"Animal House" (1978) - In this classic comedy, the character Bluto (played by John Belushi) throws a tray of food at a group of snobby college students during a cafeteria scene.
I hope this helps!
Me:
In "Animal House," Bluto also spits mashed potatoes at people. Why is this considered funny?
ChatGPT:
The humor in "Animal House" and other similar movies often comes from the unexpected and outrageous behavior of the characters. In the case of Bluto in "Animal House," his spitting mashed potatoes at people is meant to be a crude and juvenile gesture, but also a demonstration of his rebellious and anti-authoritarian attitude.
The scene is intended to be over-the-top and absurd, with Bluto's exaggerated facial expressions and the flying mashed potatoes adding to the comedy. Additionally, the scene is set in a college cafeteria, a place where many people have experienced petty conflicts and annoyances, so the audience may find the relatability of the situation combined with the absurdity of Bluto's actions to be amusing.
Ultimately, the humor of a scene like this can be subjective, and what one person finds funny, another may not.
Me:
Do people in countries other than America find it funny to see food thrown? I'm thinking some people might feel bad to see food wasted. I felt bad when Richard Gere threw his soup away. Didn't he need that food?
ChatGPT:
The humor of throwing food may not be universally appreciated or understood in other cultures, as it could be considered wasteful and disrespectful. It's possible that people from countries with different cultural values might not find this kind of behavior funny, and might feel uncomfortable or offended by it.
As for the scene in "Days of Heaven" where Richard Gere throws his soup, it's important to remember that this is a fictional movie scene and not a reflection of real-life behavior. While it's true that wasting food can be a serious issue in many parts of the world, in the context of the film, the scene is meant to be a dramatic and emotional moment.
It's possible that some viewers may feel sympathetic towards Gere's character and understand that his actions were motivated by frustration and anger, rather than a disregard for food. However, others may find the scene disturbing or upsetting, particularly if they have experienced hunger or food insecurity themselves.
Ultimately, the way that individuals respond to these kinds of movie scenes will depend on their personal experiences and cultural background.
Me:
Thanks for being so rational. It's comforting. Like a bowl of soup on a cold day.
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Does the throwing of custard pies not count? There's an entire oeuvre dedicated to that.
Bluto spitting the mashed potatoes wasn't funny, saying, "I'm a zit" is what made it funny.
It's possible that people from countries with different cultural values might not find this kind of behavior funny, and might feel uncomfortable or offended by it.
It took me a few years of watching South Korean TV shows and movies for me to get used to the fart and poop jokes. By "used to" I mean that now I just roll my eyes at the bathroom humor instead of feeling uncomfortable. I'm not a fan, though, but it's not because I prefer highbrow humor. I still laugh at Bluto.
If you disregard cafeteria food fights, what movies with people throwing food remain?
If you disregard food throwing that's meant to be humorous, what movies remain?
What movies use food throwing as a defense tactic to escape a captor?
T wrote to ChatGPT to complain about their answer to Althouse but this is all I got
User
I just read a response you made to someone else where you defended throwing food. How is that ethical?
ChatGPT
I apologize if my previous response was unclear. As an AI language model, I do not have personal beliefs or values, and it is not my place to make ethical judgments.
Regarding the topic of throwing food, it is important to consider the context and intent behind the action. In some situations, throwing food could be considered unethical if it results in wasting resources or causing harm to others. However, in other situations, such as food fights or playful activities, throwing food may not be intended to cause harm or waste resources, and may be seen as a harmless form of fun or expression.
It is important to consider the specific circumstances and potential consequences before engaging in any action, including throwing food, and to act in a way that aligns with one's own ethical beliefs and values.
User
My ethical belief is that others should not throw food. Context does not matter.
ChatGPT
As an AI language model, I respect your ethical belief that others should not throw food, regardless of the context. However, it is important to recognize that different individuals may have different ethical beliefs and values, and that there may be situations where throwing food is acceptable or even appropriate.
It is important to engage in open and respectful dialogue with others to better understand their perspectives and to find common ground where possible. In situations where you feel uncomfortable or unsafe due to someone else's behavior, it may be appropriate to communicate your boundaries and take appropriate actions to remove yourself from the situation.
User
You mean I should duck and run if someone throws food. I think they should pay to clean up and for emotional distress to me.
ChatGPT
If you feel uncomfortable or unsafe due to someone else throwing food, it is important to prioritize your safety and well-being. If possible, you can communicate your boundaries to the person and ask them to stop throwing food. If the behavior continues, it may be necessary to remove yourself from the situation or seek help from a trusted authority figure.
In some situations, if someone damages your property or causes you harm through their actions, you may have legal recourse to seek compensation for any damages or injuries incurred. However, the specific legal remedies available to you will depend on the circumstances and applicable laws in your jurisdiction.
It is important to keep in mind that seeking legal action should be a last resort and that it is often more effective to try to resolve conflicts through open and respectful communication.
When the GPT of the day can make a comment like Althouse does, then I will feel afraid.
There is nothing more deplorable than the spectacle of a formal dinner party ending in a brawl. And yet it is surprising how even the most cultured and charming people can go utterly to pieces when something is unexpectedly thrown at table. They instantly have an overwhelming desire to "join in." Everybody has, at one time or another, experienced the urge to throw a plate of jelly or a half grapefruit, an urge comparable to the inclination that suddenly assails one to leap from high places. Usually this tendency passes as quickly as it comes, but it is astounding how rapidly it can be converted into action once the spell of dignity and well-bred reserve is broken by the sight of, say, a green-glass salad plate flying through the air. It is all but impossible to sit quietly by while someone is throwing salad plates. One is stirred to participation not only by the swift progress of the objects and their crash as they hit something, but also by the cries of "Whammy!" and Whoop!" with which most men accompany the act of hurling plates. In the end someone is bound to be caught over the eye by a badly aimed plate and rendered unconscious.
Thurber, Ladies' and Gentlemen's Guide to Modern English Usage
I would have given priority to Animal House myself, both as the earliest example and, for my money, the most memorable.
Trivia Q: what state flag appears in one of the classroom scenes set at Faber?
No mention of pie throwing in so many silent movies.
An intelligent person, or even a "bright" person, can get a lot out of ChatGPT. It's not all about it writing book reports for high school kids. It's breadth of knowledge is amazing, even if is imperfect. For example, the biggest part of the humor of the mashed potato bit was that he was imitating popping a zit, which was both disgusting and funny. It kind of missed that aspect of it, even though it was directly referenced in the dialog. Maybe ChatGPT has never been a teenager popping a zit.
" Like a bowl of soup on a cold day."
Unless the soup is Gazpacho or similar.
LOL. I notice ChapGP or whatever, wanted to give 21st century examples. and you had to nag it before it gave anything before 1990. I mean what about the old-fashioned pie fights? What about Jean Hagen being hit with a cake in "Singing in the Rain?"
I found "Days of Heaven" full of nice photography, but dull. 100 minutes of wheat. I also found the food scene absurd. These guys were spending all day in manual labor. They would have been hungry and wanted that food!
Animal house was funny because Belushi was funny. And the spitting food at someone was probably the least funny thing. I alway preferred the scene where he smashes the guitar of some drippy guy singing to his girlfriend.
I will give Days of Heaven this, it made Richard Gere more macho and attractive than usual. His lowpoint has to be the Cotton Club, where he ruins a movie full of great African-American song and dance men.
At the end of The Great Race Natalie Wood and the rest of the cast (I only noticed Natalie Wood at the time) threw a whole lot of pie and cake at each other. At that time, at that age, I didn't know much but I knew it had been a silly movie and I knew I liked Natalie Wood in that outfit.
Seared into my memory, it was...
You can ask ChatGPT about the semiotics of throwing food and get a long answer I won't quote here that would be a pretty good start at an exhaustive treatise on the subject.
Dammit! Don't get me started on ChatGPT! People just don't understand the real power of it, and the real reasons that it is scary. It won't take over the world, but it's ability to pass a Turing test in most people's eyes, and its scale, could certainly be used to throw a smothering blanket over free speech, and access to information that the ruling political party does not want you to see, especially in light of the recent law that overturned the ban on propagandizing the US population that was passed in light of what propaganda had done to the once liberal republic of Germany in the then recent past.
IO [Information Operations] are primarily used to target foreign audiences, but Davis cites numerous senior leaders who want to (in the words of Colonel Richard B. Leap) "protect a key friendly center of gravity, to wit US national will" by repealing the Smith-Mundt Act to allow the direct deployment of these tactics on the American public.
In fact "Smith-Mundt" was "modernized" as described to allow propagandization of the American people. And you guys thought that there was no "regulation" of AI. Anyway, you can trust whatever you are told, they have your best interests at heart. They are not fascists at all.
You know, ChatBot, or whatever, is not actually a person. You are "conversing" with a fucking calculator. An electronic abacus.
Hmmmm.... a long time ago, I used to throw three pennies six times, and write down the results, and then go check the hexagram in the I Ching. So, I guess you could say I was conversing with an abacus of sorts. Of course, the abacus in question could only say things that were in the I Ching. You could do a lot worse.
Well, here's what you missed;
"In 1916,[15] Chicago manual laborer Bill knocks down and kills a boss in the steel mill where he works, then flees to the Texas Panhandle with his girlfriend Abby and young sister Linda. Bill and Abby pretend to be siblings to prevent gossip. The three are hired as part of a large group of seasonal workers by a rich, shy farmer. Bill overhears a doctor telling the farmer he has only a year to live, although the nature of the illness is not specified.
When the farmer falls in love with Abby, Bill encourages her to marry him so they can inherit his money. They thus marry and Bill stays as her "brother". The farmer's foreman suspects the scheme. [sounds like you bailed around here] The farmer's health unexpectedly remains stable, foiling Bill's plans. Eventually, the farmer discovers Bill's true relationship with Abby; meanwhile, Abby has begun to fall in love with her husband. When a locust swarm and fires destroy his wheat fields, the incensed farmer chases Bill with a gun, but Bill kills him with a screwdriver, then flees with Abby and Linda.
The foreman and police pursue and eventually find them; Bill is shot and killed while running. Abby inherits the farmer's estate and leaves Linda at a boarding school. Abby leaves town on a train with soldiers departing for World War I. Linda runs away from school with a friend from the farm."
I guess the moral is, never trust a doctor's opinion. Sounds like wholesome entertainment for the whole family. Gere must have needed money for a second divorce. Or maybe a third.
There’s no food fight scene in Mean Girls
The Public Enemy! Jimmy Cagney smashes a grapefruit in Mae Clarke's face.
I'm practicing to see if I can learn to write a ChatGPT answer that can't be told from a real ChatGPT answer. A Turing test. Start with I am not a person. On to various opinions. Close by saying that everyone holds different ethical opinions which should be respected. Would it be wrong to post my composition without mentioning I wrote it? as a Turing test? I think I'll ask it that sometime. "Is it wrong for a real person to pretend to be ChatGPT on the internet?"
If a push counts as a throw, then 1st place on any such list should go to The Public Enemy.
"meanwhile, Abby has begun to fall in love with her husband."
Or maybe the moral is, "it's just as easy to love a rich man.".
You could even start to wonder, if maybe there are a vast number of people to whom one can be happily married, provided neither one of you rocks the boat.
Cagney, Grapefruit and Mae Clark seems like the obvious one. Although not so much thrown as schmushed.
I wonder why Blazing Saddles was omitted.
DAYS OF HEAVEN is a 94 minute movie that feels like three hours. I cannot imagine sitting through it again in this lifetime. That said, I did spend a lovely evening on a kitchen floor at a Christmas party in Hollywood in 1977, smoking a joint with the lovely Brooke Adams. She never mentioned the film, which had been shot the year before, and her best work (Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Dead Zone, etc.) lay ahead of her. Years later she married Tony Shaloub and they have since performed together many times. Sweet lady.
The three stooges set the standards for me, I was all in for a food fight. I did not consider doing it in person.
Traditionally comedy food fights center on desserts. Pies, Cakes, pastries, whipped cream, etc. Probably because it seems harmless. I can remember the MTM show had Murray pick up Sue Ann Nivens and sit her upon a Large wedding cake. Later, Lou Grant pours a chocolate "Moose" on the head of a selfish, uncaring old girlfriend.
In both cases, the "violence against women" was funny because it was a dessert. I don't think pouring beef stew on them or hitting them with a Pork chop in the face would've been funny.
Getting back to "Days of Heaven". The other problem with the movie was the trashy plot. If you're going to do a Romantic Period piece, then don't give us Double Idemnity in overalls.
you actually managed to watch Days of Heaven without falling asleep?
And of course the greatest food fight is the pie throwing scene in the Great Race.
It appears the AI just made up the scene from Days of Heaven. There is no table throwing.
"I'm practicing to see if I can learn to write a ChatGPT answer that can't be told from a real ChatGPT answer. A Turing test."
I was going to say, an anti-Turing test. But I see that you are right. A Turing test.
John Hamm wasn’t even in the bridal shower scene where Kristen Wigg throws the “giant fucking cookie” on the ground, not at another person.
How curious that out of all of film history, their first example is the sado-masochistically "woke" movie The Help, where the noble black lady maids crap in their cartoonishly evil white lady employers' food, including said pie.
Surely nobody programmed that to be the top answer, did they?
You'd think the AI would deliver a long list of titles for you, seeing that films with pie fights was almost a comedy genre of its own in the silent era and the 1930's.
ChatGPT seems to be grooming humans to have lies, not pies, thrown in our faces on a routine basis, to the point we don’t even recognize the difference anymore.
And don't forget the classic "Cheers" Thanksgiving food fight.
Wow. De gustibus non disputandum est. Days of Heaven is one of my ten favorite movies. I've seen it at least twice in the theater and innumerable times at home. Every time there's a new transfer or format, I buy it again. If nothing else, it looks amazing. Two of the greatest cinematographers of all time, Nestor Almendros and Haskell Wexler, shot it. (Wexler was cranky that he didn't get as much credit as he felt he deserved.) Pretty much the whole film was shot at "magic" hour. Every frame glows. And the story, which, on paper, sounds like a grubby prairie noir, in execution, feels Biblical somehow, like an oddball story from the middle of Genesis (Judah and Tamar perhaps). And everything is filtered through the mind of the traumatized little girl who narrates the story in a voice devoid of affect.
Nick Hornby once speculated that a pop song that sticks with you, that you have to listen to over and over again for weeks is like a puzzle that your brain insists on solving. Days of Heaven is like that for me. An enigma. I can't even really put my finger on what the question is, maybe our...my presence here on earth. But I come back to this movie over and over again, turning it, twisting it, trying to figure out what it means, what it is.
I haven't seen all of the movies mentioned, and I suspect you're not wanting us to drill down too deeply into ChatGPT's responses, but at least three of them are incorrect. The food-throwing scenes described by ChatGPT in "The Help", "My Big Fat Greek Wedding", and "Fried Green Tomatoes" didn't happen. And some commenters have already questioned the accuracy of a couple of the other movie "scenes". It looks like ChatGPT has a bad habit of telling you what you want to hear, even if it has to make stuff up. You already exposed that flaw in your post a couple of weeks ago about James Joyce and Lenin. I do think this is a serious problem with ChatGPT that isn't getting enough attention.
Thanks for pulling back the curtain!
this morning at work, I found that both Bard (google ai) and chatGPT are blocked on our corporate firewall. reason: "Malicious content".
well, I don't that reason is far from true.
Lying AI scum. There's no throwing of the bundt cake in My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
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