Writes Jill Filipovic, in "Hamline University’s Controversial Firing Is a Warning/Insistence that others follow one’s strict religion is authoritarian and illiberal no matter what the religion is" (Slate). She's talking about a statement written by Hamlin University President Dr. Fayneese S. Miller.
Filipovic continues:
[Miller] writes that “when we harm, we should listen rather than debate the merits of or extent of that harm” and that “the classroom incident is only one of several instances in which their religious beliefs have been challenged.” (God forbid a college student have their beliefs challenged.) But this is where it goes really off the rails:
As a caring community, there are times when a healthy examination of expression is not only prudent, but necessary. This is particularly the case when we know that our expression has potential to cause harm. When that happens, we must care enough to find other ways to make our voices and viewpoints heard. Perspectives should be informed, mindful and critical, as befits an education steeped in the tenets of a liberal arts education. We believe in academic freedom, but it should not and cannot be used to excuse away behavior that harms others.
I realize I sound like a crotchety old conservative here, but college classrooms should not be “safe spaces.” They can’t be safe spaces. They should be respectful spaces, and professors and students alike should treat each other with consideration, but “cause no emotional harm” is not, in fact, a value to which academic institutions should aspire, or an ideal they can ever realistically reach—especially when “this is harmful” has become an easy cudgel to use in order to get one’s way.
Much more at the link. It's interesting to see a person who wants to maintain her status as a left-winger struggle with all of this:
This incident is making headlines because conservatives have latched onto it as another example of left-wing “cancel culture.” But how a conservative interpretation of Islam that gets a sensitive and thoughtful art history lecturer fired is “left-wing” is beyond me.
I've bold-faced what is the second-to-last sentence. The light bulb comes on!
But there's one more sentence. It's not a snapping off of the light — more of an adjustment of the dimmer switch:
It is true, though, that many people on the left have stayed quiet about this one, because, well, one doesn’t want to aid a perceived enemy, and perhaps because we want to be sensitive to Muslims who are undeniably often mistreated in the United States.
We'll see where Filopovic goes from here. I said I found it interesting when someone who wants to be left wing struggles with issues conservatives care about, but that's an understatement. It is the strongest interest that has powered my blogging over the years.
I'm sure I had some dispute with Filipovic long ago, but I can't remember what it was, and I think at the time she was a law student while I was a law professor. Anyway, she graduated from law school in 2008, and she's turning 40 this year (the same year my younger son turns 40), so there's no reason to shrink from challenging her, and apparently she's in favor of the intellectual challenge.
So I'll go ahead and wonder out loud whether Filipovic intended to be so transgressive as to compare a black woman — Hamlin University President Dr. Fayneese S. Miller — to naive teenager — "a teenage Tumblr user who [has just] come into contact with some new and exciting ideas about social justice."
I'm not saying that's racist or sexist, but I think a typical left-winger would say it is. I think it's anti-racist to apply the same vigorous criticism to a black woman that you'd apply to a white man.
But that's another one of these ideas that seem like something a "crotchety old conservative" would say.
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Let's suppose that one White student at Hamlin University feels offended by a class about Critical Race Theory.
Would Hamlin President Fayneese S. Miller therefore cancel that class?
You always know how these struggles are going to come out in the end--the hard questions, if asked at all, will be papered over and the end result will be no real insights, no enlightenment, but instead a return to the warm comforting embrace of "liberals good/conservatives bad."
If someone is acting like a naïve teenager, they should be called out for acting like a naïve teenager. As you rightly point out, it's absurd to pretend that it's racist/sexist/generally demeaning to hold that it's ok to call out some people but not others for the same behavior simply because of their tribal group.
I got into a similar dispute with the Deans at both Creighton and Nebraska Law. The Corn Dean wrote that I was too aggressive in criticizing a law review article by one of his instructors. The article argued that former men should be allowed to compete athletically against real women.
Free Speech is dead on campus.
so, serious question...
These people who fired the prof, for offending Islam.. How would THEY feel, about a prof that offended Christians?
That would be Okay, right?
"I think it's anti-racist to apply the same vigorous criticism to a black woman that you'd apply to a white man."
I agree. But that quaint version of equality died a long time ago in our universities.
perhaps because we want to be sensitive to Muslims who are undeniably often mistreated in the United States.
I was always taught that when a writer uses terms like "undeniably," "unquestionably," "obviously," or "clearly" before a statement of purported fact, it indicates that the writer in fact had no evidence to support the statement of purported fact. Someone show me where Muslims are "undeniably often mistreated in the United States" - it seems more like the country bends over backwards to be accomodating.
Colleges are basically filled with self centered, aged naïve teenagers "teaching" younger naïve teenagers. I've come to expect nothing less that immature closed minded shit like this.
I clicked the link for .. Slate context.
A giant smear of all conservatives using lies and half-truths.
We believe in academic freedom, but it should not and cannot be used to excuse away behavior that harms others.
Zionism has a religious basis in Judaism. How many instructors have been even disciplined, much less fired, for anti-Israel, or even anti-Semitic, statements in the classroom?
If there's a silver lining to this cloud of teenage college sophomore angst it's that there are very few Zoomers in their demographic cohort.
Colleges will soon find lots of empty desks with no one there to fill them. Fewer and fewer males are attending - particularly Zoomer males. When I audit interesting history classes at one of the local university's as a senior citizen each year shows less students. Maybe it's the subject matter. The next ten years for colleges and University's will be telling.
The leftwing religion is to muddy the waters, gaslight, lie, twist, and hate...
We believe in academic freedom, but it should not and cannot be used to excuse away behavior that harms others.
They're so cavalier about the term "harm," aren't they?
I used to love the discussions of post-modernism on Jeff Goldstein's Protein Wisdom. Once you reject the idea of any absolute on any level, anything goes! Everything is 100% defined and interpreted by the person who takes in the sight, the speech, the action - the intent of the speaker, artist, or actor is irrelevant.
But here we are, what, fifteen years past the demise of Protein Wisdom, and the idea is now that not everyone gets to define and interpret for herself; instead, one side of the cultural debate (though still not the speaker, artist, or actor) will define and interpret for everyone, and STFU, rubes. So we went from a cloud of worthless meaninglessness to Soviet-style rigidity in half a generation.
Nature abhors a vacuum, I guess.
There is no discourse to be had anymore on this Q. Afterall, these same people defend a crucifix suspended in urine as "high art." The edgiest you are allowed to be with regard to Mohammad is slyly suggest that you aren't going to offend Mohammad because something bad might happen if you do. The juxtaposition of what is tolerated as "satire" between Christ and Mohammad reveals the cowardliness and treason of the ruling classes for what it is.
Until western nations are free to mock Mohammad as they please within their own lands, I don't care to listen to academics quibble over technicalities.
My friends, good. My enemies, bad. Simple as.
Of course The Reality IS: Very Few Christians will bomb campuses if you 'offend' Christianity.
This is the difference between Islam and Christianity. No Wonder the College was worried
@tommyesq
True. I taught refugee and immigrant teenagers for several decades, predominately from the Yugoslavian and Balkan wars of the 1990's. We bent wayyyyy over backward for these Europeanized people of the Muslim faith. And I'm glad we did. They made good cirizens - most of them now mid 40's. The real conflict was not between them and the Christian refugees (usually Coptic or Meronite) but between liberal westernized Muslims and conservative Arabic/North African Muslims.
“I'm sure I had some dispute with Filipovic long ago, but I can't remember what it was, and I think at the time she was a law student while I was a law professor.”
Boobgate.
We’re suffering from harm categorization hesitancy.
Its all bullshit to conceal the fact that they are afraid of radical Muslims. There are plenty of reasonable Muslims who can engage in debate, but nobody is worried about them. Its the fanatics you have to worry about.
"We believe in academic freedom, BUT..."
We don't believe in academic freedom.
"...On the class syllabus, she noted that the course would include images of religious figures, including Buddha and Muhammad, and that students could reach out if they had concerns—none did. Before showing the image, she told students that she was going to show it, and gave them the option to opt out—none did."
What a nice outrage piece. What the story didn't do: Name the accountable party, the authority within the faceless, anonymous, autocratic 'Administration' that was responsible for the firing. Not the spokesperson, not the students - the person in charge. When that starts happening, then this kind of thing will stop happening.
"Muslims are often mistreated in the US" Really, what factual basis is this rooted in? The immediate years after 9/11?
We are one of the few countries in the world where you can practice whatever brand of Islam you choose to practice. There is no official state version of it here.
"Don't say gay" = the entire collective left. The big lie.
Legislation that protect 1st-3rd graders from sex-talk - where the word "gay" not in the legislation - and the the entire nazi leftiwng lie machine (media and otherwise) stand in lockstep brownshirt unison and scream 'don't say gay".
If we treat potential harm like we would a clear and present danger we end up increasing the likelihood that a clear and present dangerous situation will emerge. Some people say that is exactly what some other people want.
For a visual exercise of what I’m talking about see the elaborate ejection of NFLs Odell Beckham Jr from an airplane .
After Roe v Wade was over-turned and given back to the states - a leftist group fire-bombed a Longmont pregnancy center. Even though in CO - abortion is legal up to birth.
yay leftwing tolerance!
Samuel Paty would like a word.
Althouse writes, "I think it's anti-racist to apply the same vigorous criticism to a black woman that you'd apply to a white man."
Althouse has a too-kindly understanding of the term. Anti-racism is like antimatter, which is just like matter, but reversed.
Compare and contrast academia's treatment of Christianity, to Muslim.
Christianity is thoroughly gutted and ridiculed in classes from Astronomy, to Zoology, and everything in between, an a daily basis
Muslim, is HONORED and academics strictly adhere to any small complaint that touches even tangentially on Muslim
Academic courses on Christianity often are lead by professors that are avowed atheists, I doubt Muslim studies are treated the same way.
It might have something to do with the fact that the Religion of Peace, often separate detractors heads from their bodies, and blow up bus loads of children.
Why would you write "excuse away" instead of "excuse"?
When I google "excuse away," I just keep getting the Smashing Pumpkins lyric:
Humor me before I have to go
Deep in thought I forgive everyone
As the cluttered streets greet me once again
I know I can't be late, supper's waiting on the table
Tomorrow's just an excuse away
The song is "Thirty-Three."
"I clicked the link for .. Slate context."
I take the trouble to name the publication along with my link. Maybe I should just save my time.
the fact that you sound like a "crotchety old conservative" is the #1 reason I come here every day.
Ann Althouse said...
Why would you write "excuse away" instead of "excuse"?
"Well, excuuuse me!"
hawkeyedjb said...
"We believe in academic freedom, BUT..."
We don't believe in academic freedom.
There's always a 'but'.
"I believe in freedom of speech. . .but. . ."
"But how a conservative interpretation of Islam that gets a sensitive and thoughtful art history lecturer fired is “left-wing” is beyond me."
This is the lefty bubble effect.
Althouse: "It's not a snapping off of the light — more of an adjustment of the dimmer switch"
Excellent line. Is any prog capable of more than that adjustment?
Not Althouse: "perhaps because we want to be sensitive to Muslims who are undeniably often mistreated in the United States"
Now do all the people who are mistreated by Muslims. We'll wait.
Althouse: "someone who wants to be left wing struggles with issues conservatives care about"
"struggles"? Not sure I'm seeing that.
"I'm not saying that's racist or sexist, but I think a typical left-winger would say it is. I think it's anti-racist to apply the same vigorous criticism to a black woman that you'd apply to a white man."
Fair enough. But how many progs will call out a black woman spouting illiberal BS? How many progs will challenge the logic of safetyism used to control non-prog discourse and shield "marginalized" groups from even the mildest challenge? And how many progs will refrain from labeling a prog doing so "conservative" simply for deviating from the party line?
Dr. Miller throws around the word "harm" to freely. Being insulted or offended is not being harmed. It isn't even emotional harm.
Filipovic was only roused to write that weak essay because that "sensitive, thoughtful art history lecturer" was a nice lefty in otherwise good standing. Had that lecturer, in the exact same circumstances, been a known conservative, Filipovic would have either been silent or would have written to support the firing, and done so vigorously.
And had this same lecturer faced a complaint for insensitivity to Christianity, he would not have been fired, and the complaintant would probably have been penalized by the school in some fashion.
Basically, I think Filipovic can go fuck herself sideways. She helped create this world with her silence up to this point, and speaking up now, and in this particular case, just looks like ass-covering embarrassment.
Looks like there may be a racial angle. At a press conference, the student who filed the complaint and all the people on stage with her are black.
We believe in academic freedom, but … [my emphasis]
Always that “but.” Meaning that they don’t believe in academic freedom at all.
"I'm not saying that's racist or sexist, but I think a typical left-winger would say it is."
Are we to surmise that you are therefor, an A-typical left-winger?
(I'll just sit back now and wait for the skewer...)
Filopovich is either very lazy or a liar.
Or both. The new trustees are not, and have in no way announced, that they are going to turn New College into a religious school. One potential trustee is an alum and esteemed attorney. Three are academicians in the liberal tradition -- the one New College was actually founded on, which is based on traditional study of the Great Books as the one required course, spanning two years, along with individualized, British-modeled tutorial work with individual professors.
It was once a great education. It's now a joke illustrating every toxic academic trend, writ large. They can't attract enough students to fill their goals; they have nosedived in the standings; their status as a school that gets alums jobs is so poor that even the local leftists papers have run very negative reports on them.
They have S&M clubs and lots of other gender garbage, and an almost uniquely bad drugs problem. For many years, sickos like Timothy Leary were brought to campus to participate in fake "experiments" on underaged college students who were fed experimental types of psychedelics. Some never regained sanity.
One of the new trustee academicians is from Hillsdale. So what? Hillsdale is in fact an estimable liberal arts school (and the first in America, I believe, to desegregate). They are Christian but have no plans to make New College Christian. It's illegal. They aren't idiots. Listen to Larry Arnn's interview about education with Jordan Peterson. It's really amazing. Another potential trustee, whom I know, is barely even a conservative, but he is an extraordinary scholar with a long track record of teaching and writing and also a skilled curriculum reformer.
Mark Rufo is a brilliant writer. He IS the closest thing to being an ideologue they have promoted, but if you actually read his writing, you'll see that he is no religious evangelical. To say the least.
The "turning academia into Christianity/Taliban" meme is out of control. It bears no resemblance to reality. The Novo Collogeans should do their homework and welcome the help.
They need it. The school is currently a vanity project for a few radical professors who don't give a damn about how much they have abandoned scholarly standards and are failing their students utterly.
Authoritarian, and liberal (i.e. divergent) from the American centrist, but conformist with left-wing ideology.
Diversity [dogma] (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry), Inequity, Exclusion (DIE). Lose your ethical religion.
"Prior to her appointment as president, Dr. Miller was the dean of the College of Education and Social Services and Professor of Leadership and Developmental Sciences at the University of Vermont. From 1985 to 2005, she was a professor of education at Brown University, served as Director of the Center for the Study of Race and Ethnicity in America, and was the founding chairman of Ethnic Studies."
So basically, she's Dr. Jill in blackface.
"It is true, though, that many people on the left have stayed quiet about this one, because, well, one doesn’t want to aid a perceived enemy..."
She said the quiet part out loud. Conservatives are the (perceived) enemy.
And what do you do with an enemy? Destroy them. Literally.
Quaestor ...
Anti-racism is like antimatter, which is just like matter, but reversed.
That is soooo good. Thanks!
It is also a serious mistake to take the most extreme versions of any given Islamic belief as the "real" ones (which many people--on both ends of the political spectrum--do regularly). The problem is that people who AREN'T cultural historians get their knowledge of what Islam, Christianity, and other religions "believe" from shallow stories in the New York Times. Example: In the mid-2000s there was suddenly a move by a few dim-witted administrators to stop faculty from bringing their dogs to campus. This was motivated by one administrator going to a conference and hearing a story about a big judgment after a dog bit a student. Since there had not been a dog-biting incident in 173 years on our campus, said administrator didn't frame his proposed policy that way, but instead by planting a story that "Dogs are unclean in Islam, so our Muslim students are made uncomfortable if they are on campus." Well, it just so happened that one of our Muslim students had taken a few of my classes. How did I know she was Muslim? Because she was one of two students on campus who wore hijab. So I asked her about this issue. Her answer: "My family has two yellow labs." The point being that "Muslims don't like dogs" is the kind of thing you believe when you don't actually know much, kind of like "Gas stoves are toxic to children." What is the common thread? People believing what they read in sources like The New York Times.
You have the statement: Diversity is good for universities; exclusion is bad for societies. You have the way in which diversity and inclusion are being enacted by DIE administrators in universities and society. Suppose a man is drowning and a man who can't swim jumps in "to save him" and clutches onto the drowning man and starts pulling him under and ... the two are impartially saved saved by Fire/Rescue. Out of a blank mind, the cloud condenses into speech.
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Ah yes Jill Filipovic...
Who on slate and vox claimed that Jackie was telling the truth (or that it didnt matter) when she lied about being raped and Rolling Stone lied too.
Who slandered and libeled the Duke Lacrosee players over at her Feministing blog.
Her concerning trolling and gaslighting here is neither welcomed nor required.
I should have offered some context: in the Filipio article cited, she also says the newly a appointed trustees at New College of Florida are "reactionary anti-intellectual nut jobs."
Who have long, stellar backgrounds in academia, law, and journalism. So no, I don't think she would have even written the article if the cancel victim were not a minority. She proves her rolling of the bias dice with ignorant crap like this.
Happily, New Collegians may just find themselves extricated from the ignorant swamp of preening identity politics activism, angry ignorance of Western Civilization, narcissistic gender nonsense, and hard drug use, into the light of day where they have to do their homework instead.
All political appointments are political. This one also happens to be a Nalaxone shot to the collective brain.
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