So reads a photo caption in "Tranq Dope: Animal Sedative Mixed With Fentanyl Brings Fresh Horror to U.S. Drug Zones/A veterinary tranquilizer called xylazine is infiltrating street drugs, deepening addiction, baffling law enforcement and causing wounds so severe that some result in amputation" by Jan Hoffman (NYT).
Xylazine causes wounds that erupt with a scaly dead tissue called eschar; untreated, they can lead to amputation. It induces a blackout stupor for hours, rendering users vulnerable to rape and robbery. When people come to, the high from the fentanyl has long since faded and they immediately crave more. Because xylazine is a sedative and not an opioid, it resists standard opioid overdose reversal treatments....
Doctors are perplexed by how xylazine causes wounds so extreme that they initially resemble chemical burns. They may not even appear at injection sites, but often on shins and forearms....
People who use drugs often feel too mortified by their wounds to come in from the shadows to get help at emergency rooms. That shame can be perpetuated by health care workers, who may dismiss these patients’ agonizing withdrawal as mere drug-seeking behavior. “Stigma is so deeply entrenched within hospital culture,” said Sara Wallace-Keeshen, a Prevention Point nurse who wears casual clothes rather than medical scrubs, hoping to appear nonjudgmental and welcoming.....
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And supposedly smart people continue to mock Nancy Reagan for her "Say No to Drugs" campaign.
Stop. Treating. These. People.
Unless that treatment is a body bag, you can't help them. Also ban narcan.
Tell me again, how drugs Aren't Bad?
Tell me again, how folks can just use them.. For Fun?
Supposedly smart people still mock Nancy Reagan for her "Say No to Drugs" campaign.
Liberals gave us this deadly drug culture and Joe Biden’s open borders just feeds this.
Where did hope go?
I suspect the Biden administration would tell us either that there's 'nothing to see here' or that 'the Republicans are not serious about doing something about it'.
Our country is tanking. It's right there in front of anyone who wants to call out the evidence before their own eyes. In San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, St. Louis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Detroit, and dozens or hundreds of smaller towns throughout every region of our country. It's also all around the President's own residence in Washington DC. Just a few blocks away from Obama's DC compound. All we have to do is look at it and acknowledge what we're seeing is bad and wrong and....do something about it.
Here's an idea. Close the damned border until we can figure out a way to control things.
But, Trans Rights!
I'm not so certain that street addicts who piss and shit in public on a daily basis are too 'ashamed' to seek help.
Too wasted maybe?
People who use drugs often feel too mortified by their wounds to come in from the shadows to get help at emergency rooms. That shame can be perpetuated by health care workers, who may dismiss these patients’ agonizing withdrawal as mere drug-seeking behavior.
In many cases "too strung out" might be more accurate.
Is it really NOT a good idea to stigmatize someone who uses a deadly combination of fentanyl and xylazine? Stigma worked to save millions of lives by getting people to stop smoking or--perhaps more important--to never start.
>she said. “It’s self-destruction at its finest.”<
'Nuff said. Anyway...
Because xylazine is a sedative and not an opioid, it resists standard opioid overdose reversal treatments....
Sorry, but ….good!
Ok. Not sorry.
- Krumhorn
There are many broken people in this world. There are no simple answers.
So I'm guessing this NYT reporter is working on a post-apocalyptic novel and this story is part of the draft?
Combine it with all the other good things we've gotten from China lately and it all makes a certain kind of sense.
As for the trankies, I am just about out of ideas to help them; also running short of charity. Sauve qui peut.
Darwinian selection in real time.
I had no idea there are so many ways to say........"The sky is falling!!"
OK, so insane addicts now also self-mutilate. And we allow this continue why?
She hopes to save her arm, although she reluctantly injects tranq in it.
What a bunch of bullshit!!
Pity woven with revulsion looking at this poor wheelchair bound woman with festering arm wounds and a plethora of tattoos. What exactly in the fuck was she thinking? Where did this begin? Did she dream as a kid of being a cool street person with cool tattoos?
You can't make this shit up. Unless you work for the NYT.
There is no saving people like the woman in this story, and it is a waste of resources trying to do so. Find more worthy targets for our charity.
Despite all the amputations
She could dance to a rock n’ roll station
And it was all right
The biggest and most fatal of current cultural diseases is pathological altruism and pathological kindness. You can see it in every problem we are currently dealing with from gender insanity, to immigration, our economy, sexual relationships between men and women...everything.
That we have been programmed or in many cases forced to be nice and helpful to a grotesquely illogical fault is killing us. Worse, that you're not allowed to even discuss the problem in the first place means suggesting the courses of action 'you're not supposed to suggest' isn't even thought of to begin with.
Sentimentality is viral poison. The entire country is sick with it.
One has to want to stop in order to stop. What is missing in this population?
BTW, How's that Fundamental Transformation going for you?
Just say no.
A drug so virulently addictive that addicts inject it and their limb rots off, yet they continue on, with a different limb. That's so dystopian and Kafkaesque that I can see it as a subplot in a RoboCop movie.
I have never heard of this drug, but I doubt that it is causing "wounds so extreme that they initially resemble chemical burns". My guess is that it's the sidewalk version of bedsores. It's not good to lie unconscious for hours upon hours, day after day.
These people should be held against their will on detox facilities and then in addiction hospitals. Only Marxist inspired post modernists would think it is better for them to “choose” this than to be helped against their will.
Mary Beth. Not even when cushioned by a pile feces?
Simple remedy folks... those caught with more than 1 milligram should be simply locked up for life. No if's and's or but's.
No parole, no good time, no nothing. Caught with it.. prison.
And if more prisons are needed to be built... BUILD THEM!!!
What Mary Beth said. They sound like pressure sores to me.
"Our country is tanking. It's right there in front of anyone who wants to call out the evidence before their own eyes. In San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, St. Louis, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Detroit, and dozens or hundreds of smaller towns throughout every region of our country."
I haven't bothered to check the other cities you name above other than NYC, but I did check New York as I lived there from 1981 through 2021. Crime has been rising in the last year or two, but NY remains significantly safer and freer from crime than 20 years ago." (In addition, NY years ago was signifcantly safer 20 years ago than when I moved there 20 years before that, in early 1981.) During all those years of much higher crime rates in NYC, I almost never felt apprehension when walking the streets or riding the subways at night. Given the size and population of NYC, even with those higher crime rates, the chance any particular individual would become a crime victim was low. (This was less true of those who lived in high crime areas.)
The point? Crime leads headlines and lead stories on local news stores because stories about criminal violence are sensational and they draw more readers or watchers, all to the good of the news provider's profits. Declarations of "CRIME OUT OF CONTROL!!" are also beloved by politicians and political parties, as creating public fear or panic and then pandering to that fear is a reliable vote getter, not to mention an easy ploy to push through more and stricter laws, and to valorize and further arm and militarize the police. All this leads to a stifling of our freedom and more and more police abuse and oppression of the public.
Yes, crime must always be dealt with, and finding and implementing effective means to reduce crime is a necessary task of governments from the smallest to the largest levels and areas of jurisdiction, (especially in specific high crime areas of any locale.) However, we cannot allow sensationalism and manufactured panics to sway us into surrendering our freedoms because of lies that our safety requires a police state.
But be sure to legalize the marijuana and then the hallucination mushrooms. If they move on up from there and die…they die.
Aggie said:
"A drug so virulently addictive that addicts inject it and their limb rots off, yet they continue on, with a different limb. That's so dystopian and Kafkaesque that I can see it as a subplot in a RoboCop movie."
You are framing that incorrectly. The drug isn't the problem. The addict is the problem.
What sane, functional human being tries this crap? Who is it that's out there, randomly shooting things into their veins? Is it the well-balanced functional types that get up and go to work every day, or is it the dysfunctional who drag everyone down with them?
You can see what that lifestyle has done to others. Why do these people feel driven to "try these things out", and then expect everyone else to nod along and blame anything at all, besides their own culpability?
I've run into all sorts of drug and alcohol related issues with people, all of my life. Not one of them had anyone beat them up in an alley somewhere and make them take the drugs or drink the drinks. They all did it of their own free will, most knowing what they were getting into. I know a guy who knowingly got himself hooked on heroin, 'cos it was "cool", and he "wanted to see what it was like", despite the fact that his own sister and friends destroyed their lives with the drug while he was watching, in his early teens.
Don't try to feed me that bullshit about the "poor, pitiful drug addict", because that crap ain't flying. These people are only barely human, after the things they've done to themselves of their own free will. And, that goes for the ones that use "prescription" medications as well; no matter what, it's a choice. I've been on narcotics for pain control, and I know what the beginnings of addiction feel like. The minute I realized what was going on, I stopped taking them and accepted the pain. I don't want to live my life enslaved to a chemical and its provider. If you give in to it, well... I have understanding, but limited pity.
If reading about this only inspires revulsion and contempt, then you are lacking both imagination and humanity. They are human beings. I agree that they are likely beyond any hope of saving, and that misguided tolerance had a role in creating the problem, but these are humans worthy of our compassion even if that is all we can offer.
Supposedly smart people still mock Nancy Reagan for her "Say No to Drugs" campaign.
I always assumed she meant "Say no to starting to do drugs," but apparently a lot of supposedly smart people thought she meant, "Though you're addicted, all you have to do is say no."
Or they willfully misread her that way, which is what I assumed at the time.
I was 17, and not at all firmly ensconced on the Right... but stuff like that hastened my decision, I think.
This combination sounds like a terrible scourge. But I also think legal cannabis, with its dialed-in range of potencies and fun gummy delivery system, is a scourge, so what do I know?
A..."nurse who wears casual clothes rather than medical scrubs, hoping to appear nonjudgmental and welcoming..." For the benefit of whom, exactly? Remove the stigma; yeah, that's what's needed. Indulge your desire for self-destructive behavior, there will always be someone around to prop you up.
"... she reluctantly injects tranq in it."
In NYT world their is no personal responsibility unless you are a Republican or Republican ally. In that case you are responsible for the impending demise of the "democracy."
So Robert Cook says:
a) he does NOT live in NYC anymore..
b) he doesn't use drugs, or hang around people that do drugs, or know anyone that does drugs..
c) he doesn't drink, or hang around people that drink, or know anyone that drinks
BUT!
D) he's SURE, that THERE'S NO PROBLEM, because Fentanyl use was MUCH HIGHER, back when he lived there
Robert Cook.. You are The Stupidest Liar* i have EVER known. You REALLY NEED to work on your act
Liar* gilbar's 1st rule of Lying: In order for a Lie to be believed; it Must Be BELIEVABLE
Jamie mentions...
legal cannabis, with its dialed-in range of potencies and fun gummy delivery system,
Here's a Fun Question:
What are the Fentanyl levels, in legal gummies? How about ILLEGAL gummies?
Same question with the 'super strength' smoking weeds?
If your answer is: "OMG! there ISN'T ANY Fentanyl in gummies!!"
My next question would be: "How do YOU know? Did YOU test them"
Is gilbar saying that MOST gummies are dosed with Fentanyl? I'm sure saying, i'd be curious to know
A couple of months in county jail and she will be cured. Whether she chooses to continue upon release is up to her.
For those unable to access article, photo shows the woman in a wheelchair.
Wheelchaired, no leg, on the street, and still able to afford and procure drugs.
Oh no! Anyway...
At least hominids like that can't generally afford cars, so they aren't driving around high all the time.
I got over compassion for addicts long ago. Assuming that we don't have total social breakdown for a few years I can see a move towards a sort of Heinleinesque Coventry--areas set aside for those unable or unwilling to live like civilized people, where anything goes.
Nozick wrote of a possible America as a Utopia of utopias; we may end with a Dystopia of dystopias.
One wonders occasionally what benefit has been gained by deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill and drug addicted. It was a nice theory, but in practice seems to have been disastrous for both the individuals and for society.
@ RideSpaceMountain:
"The biggest and most fatal of current cultural diseases is pathological altruism and pathological kindness. You can see it in every problem we are currently dealing with from gender insanity, to immigration, our economy, sexual relationships between men and women...everything."
You've hit the nail here. In a perfect world, with unlimited resources and time, then 'pathological altruism' and kindness may be possible. But we don't live in a perfect world, resources are NOT unlimited, and the demand for kindness has outstripped the supply, IMO.
We are supposed to be perpetually supporting of every dysfunction. I see the little old lady begging for money at the freeway off-ramp - and kept thinking about giving her a fiver - until the day I saw her 'end her shift' and get picked up by a guy in a late-model Caddy.
Since then - well, you ain't down your luck, you're wanting to support your lifestyle. My charitable impulses for the 'out of luck guy' have vanished.
As far as drugs go - I've sometimes thought that the 'kindest' thing that could be done for the hardcore addicts (as depicted in this article - they know the stuff's killing them but they do not want to stop) is to give them unlimited supplies of their pure poison, clean needles, and free funerals - AFTER they sign a waiver equivalent to a DNR order. Basically that's self-planned/directed euthanasia. With the absolutely idiotic number of people who are sucking down heroin and fentanyl looking to escape their lives - it just seems like that's the best thing that could be done for them.
And looking at the above - damn. When did I get so hard-hearted that I could think such a thing? But there's just so many people who insist we must do everything we possibly can for them, while they're not willing to do anything for themselves. There must be a balance point somewhere, but I'm not wise enough to figure out where it is. I just realize that we cannot beggar ourselves as a society providing endless resources to people who have no desire to take care of themselves.
George "Fentanyl" Floyd syndrome... Some, Select [Black] Lives Matter (SS BLM)
but these are humans worthy of our compassion even if that is all we can offer.
Sorry. No.
And if that means I lack 'humanity' by not offering compassion to people who've done nothing but destroy their own lives and those around them? So be it. There are far more worthy candidates.
"One wonders occasionally what benefit has been gained by deinstitutionalizing the mentally ill..."
The earliest triumph of libertarian ideals in the 1970s. But the politicians (of both parties) saw an opportunity to cut a growing budget item for states, and one with no large constituency. The notion was that all mental illness would be more cheaply controlled with drugs. (I suspect that the families forced to deal with formerly institutionalized psychotics saw through that pretty quickly.)
The irony now is that drugs (particularly meth) are creating more seriously mental ill Amerians than ever. Nothing can be done until they are caught committing crimes. The criminal justice complex (including prisons) is devouring a bigger percentage of state and local budgets than the insane asylums ever did. And this is libertarian paradise? What next, defund the prisons?
Drug-addled parasites getting some payback... what's not to like?
I think the NYT now has me on a list or some damn thing.
I used to get a few free articles at the beginning of the month!
Now I don't get any.
That's going to be really annoying if you improve your journalism and start writing shit I want to read.
What is that, capitalism? Building a wall? What the fuck do you call that, NYT?! What happened to my socialist paradise of free NYT articles? Where the fuck are my free NYT articles?!
If you actually dislike all the drug use, homelessness, and all-around-misery and want to end it, you need to do several things:
1) Recongnize that drug legalization (under whatever label) will result in weaker-willed members of society getting hooked, abusing them, and ending up on the streets.
2) Illegal and legal immigration is part of the problem. Right now, we're literally importing people who can't function in an advanced society.
3) Giving these people $2 and a smile, isn't accomplishing anything except making you feel better. These people need to be taken off the streets, housed somewhere and given medical and psychiatric care. Along with some sort of drug treatment program. Of course, that will cost $$, so we might need to buy fewer weapons for Mr. Zelensky and start fewer wars.
Will any of this happen? Of course not. The well-to-do are INSULATED from all this. To them, all this crime and homelessness might as well as happen on the moon. They will cry their hearts out IN PUBLIC, but its all just words.
What disturbs me is the conviction that Our Betters actually have some sort of solution to this problem in mind and are steering our collective mind in some hidden direction by the stories they choose for the NYT. Something is coming, something like: "We need to suspend Constitutional protections for the individual's own good and for that of society. And otherwise there's nothing we can do - or anyhow we will do nothing." And it seems very likely to me that any solution from Our Betters will be a solution like gun control. Gun control as law ignores criminals and tries to get guns away from citizens so as to impose a tyranny. Similarly, solutions ostensibly aimed at altering behavior in hopeless addicts will, in practice, end up being used to alter the behavior of those who disagree with Our Betters.
I'm sure the police could clean up the cities without bending the Constitution if Our Betters didn't want the cities dirty until the Constitution is taken away along with the dissenters.
Blogger Jim at said...
And if that means I lack 'humanity' by not offering compassion to people who've done nothing but destroy their own lives and those around them? So be it. There are far more worthy candidates.
Yes, there are many more worthy candidates. It is not a zero sum game. You can feel compassion for all the various suffering people. It costs you nothing. Denying their humanity and reveling in their pain and death (not saying specifically that this is what YOU are doing, but the sentiment seems to be prevalent here today) only diminishes you as a person. People make decisions that lead to their lives being like this, no doubt about that. But they don't decide that this is how they want to live. They are human, and weak, and this is the result.
I'm fully on board with people paying the inevitable price for their mistakes, and God knows they do pay, one way or the other. I just think it is mean spirited and small to feel nothing for them.
Christians and Sex
Kyrie eleison.
Ban Narcan and let nature take its course.
This topic seems to bring out the worst in so many people. It reminds me of Howard (haven't seen him recently...?) ranting about disgusting obese deplorables. The focus on obesity is so cruel and so revealing.
I happen to be lean and fit. This doesn't come easily. It takes effort. I am also not a drug addict. But these facts don't make me believe that I am better than others who are fat. People do not choose their weaknesses. My ability to run and lift and eat moderately do not make me a better person than someone else who fails at these things.
Try a bit of humility in your judgments. You are likely less than perfect in many ways.
"Blogger Lars Porsena said...
Ban Narcan and let nature take its course."
You seem nice. And very thoughtful.
but these are humans worthy of our compassion even if that is all we can offer.
To help them help themselves. Abort a fetus, help a baby. It is her choice.
Old and Slow rocking it at 6:37, you bitches listen or you will be reborn as a festering wound.
rcocean possessed by the holy spirit at 5:37
preach it, brother!
Satan got Lars at 8:18
pray for Lars, that fucking Satan got his heart
everybody help Lars
n is speaking in tongues at 7:26
I don't even know what language that is
will somebody pray for Quaestor, please, he's way too fucking happy
Jerry is righteous and a sinner
everybody on this thread is a sinner, including me
y'all need to cheer the fuck up!
I told my father that Penn Station has a rocking steak-and-cheese. "Would you like a bite of mine?" He said yes. I get a steak-and-cheese with extra steak. I'm trying to lose weight but man, I love this sandwich.
I'm at a stoplight, and the fucking meth girl is standing there with her sign.
"Son of a bitch," I say. I roll down my window and wave at her to get her ass over to my BMW. I open my wallet and I have no cash. "Motherfucker," I say. I have nothing to give her and I have already called her over to my car.
She does her fake hobble walk so everybody will feel sorry for her. The light turns green and cars are moving. She's still slow-walking. Method actress and annoying as shit. People are honking at me.
"Are you hungry?" I say.
"Yes sir," she says.
"Here's my sandwich," I say.
I give her my fucking sandwich. Everybody behind me is honking their horns, reading my pro-life bumper sticker, and vowing to follow Satan into the afterlife. I zip through the red traffic light, leaving everybody behind me stuck at the fucking light, unless they are willing to violate the traffic laws like me. I feel the hatred from the universe.
Later, at my parents' house, my father asks me what happened to my lunch. I don't want to lie to my father. And if I tell him the truth, I get no afterlife credit whatsoever. "I gave it to the stupid homeless lady." I wonder how much this liberal bragging on this world will cost me in the next. If you brag you get no credit whatsoever!
I'm hungry and my mom makes me a sandwich. Carolina kicks ass and wins the game.
OK, Saint. Everyone was yelling about Satan at you because you violated traffic laws? Bullshit. Then you could have caused an accident by intentionally driving through a red light at a busy interchange (I assume busy -- that's where panhandlers are), and your mommy was so proud of you for breaking the law and extending the period of time, even briefly, that a junkie can keep their high and suffer on the streets, that she made you a sandwich, and God let your football team win?
I hope you're kidding. But if you're really that high up on the holy pony, what needs to happen next is you ride it to the police station, report your traffic crime, pay the fine and watch your insurance rates go up, which is only fitting if you really are this grandiose and reckless behind the wheel.
"but these are humans worthy of our compassion even if that is all we can offer."
Of course they are. And they have my compassion. I've known more than a few addicts in my time. I also know, through painful experience, that they are the sole arbiter of their own trials. Any change must come from them, not us. I will hold their hand and weep at their death, but that is the road they chose.
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