[CORRECTION: I'm rewriting the post from this point onward, because I mixed up Facebook and Twitter, and what I had was confusing. I'm trying to retain the idea worth discussing while correcting the factual error.]
Here's a tweet from Libs of TikTok about how it was suspended from Facebook, told it was a final decision, but then reactivated. I don't know if that had to do with recent posts relaying video Boston Children's Hospital put out to promote its own program. I don't think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group.
Repeating speech and sending it out to a bigger, more diverse set of people should be basic freedom of speech on social media. Facebook and Twitter ought to adhere to viewpoint neutrality. They do need to censor direct threats to individuals, but I don't think Libs of TikTok made any threats. It only passed along the hospital's speech, and that speech was so controversial that it made other people generate "a large volume of hostile internet activity, phone calls, and harassing emails including threats of violence." If the reaction of other people counts against the sharer of speech, it would mean that the most outrageous speakers have a privilege not to be shared by anyone who has an audience who might become outraged. An illusion of agreement would be created around the worst ideas.
I see that Libs of TikTok — just 4 hours ago — passed along video labeled "Yale Pediatric Gender Program director says she treats kids as young as THREE on their 'gender journey' including medical intervention." So it seems they are back in action, inviting everyone to absorb the message and think for themselves. There's nothing in the text of the tweet that can be characterized as misinformation (unless you're going to expand that term to include encouraging people to think their own thoughts instead of passively receiving the speech the way the speaker hoped you would receive it).
Is that what was different about the Boston Children's Hospital tweet? Did it contain a factual misstatement about the treatment?
And here's something Libs of TikTok retweeted 10 hours ago — Joe Rogan talking with Seth Dillon (of the Babylon Bee) about the censorship of Libs of TikTok:
Rogan is right that it’s possible to cherry-pick videos to try and misrepresent a group. But you can’t argue that Libs of TikTok has misrepresented anyone when the Left consistently and aggressively defends the behavior she’s highlighted. https://t.co/jeK2E2dica
— Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) August 18, 2022
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Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?
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Yes, they do.
Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?
this is, The Definition of Hate Speech!
repeating someone's speech; is EXACTLY like telling you parents about what your teacher has told you about transitioning. ONLY BY KEEPING THESE SECRETS can little children be turned into weirded out freaks, with mutilated bodies.
Any one that reveals these secrets, is an ENEMY of the Cause.. And MUST BE stamped OUT!
Child sexual abuse was discovered as a public problem in the 70s and was found to have a huge ratings value in the 80s. Ratings value governs online public problems.
The biggest problem with Libs if TikTok is they claim to only post somebody else’s words. This is untrue. They often editorial like when tweeting content and sometimes they are inaccurate in what they say. Libs of TT should shut up and let the content of others they post speak for itself.
Boston Children’s Hospital scrubbed its site after publicity from Libs of TikTok. Here’s the story: https://pjmedia.com/columns/paula-bolyard/2022/08/17/well-thats-odd-boston-childrens-stealth-edited-its-website-after-libs-of-tiktok-outed-their-teen-trans-surgery-policy-n1621610
Libs of TikTok would be better off sticking strictly to their business model and doing ONLY retweets. There's plenty of material and it's very easy to defend. Don't confuse your audience. Every post should be a lib beclowning herself.
Boston Children's Hospital is STILL saying that they'll perform mastectomies on 15 year olds
To be eligible for chest reconstruction surgery at Boston Children's Hospital, you must be at least 15 years old
So, at age ?? they'll put you on puberty blockers
If you're on puberty blockers, they will put you on hormone treatment
Once you're 15 (and on hormones), they'll slice off your breast
At this point, you're sterile, and look like a freak; so once you're 18 they'll make a "penis" out of some of your skin.
They no longer say out loud whether they Do or Don't do Hysterectomies on Anyone
(hint they DO! come around the back, and we'll talk about this)
Gender-affirming care? Inflation Reduction Act? The names tell you everything.
Giving puberty blockers to minors needs to be made illegal. Arkansas is one of the few states that has passed a law. Nebraska will pass one soon.
The fact that hospitals in Boston and CT are advertising and promoting this service proves that this is a morally bankrupt and craven money-making activity. In that regard, just like the Green New Deal. The Left doesn’t care if Chinese slaves make their solar panels.
Five to ten years ago, this didn’t really exist in the US.
The Left used to advocate to protect children. Today they encourage lunatics to perform permanent physical changes on them.
The Left never considers: What if they are wrong?
The Left is also ignoring the evidence from the UK that many mistakes were made and many victims regret what happened to them.
"while treatments like puberty blockers typically start at the onset of puberty and certain affirming surgery, while sometimes performed on teens, typically takes place in adulthood."
So, the denial is BS: they are engaging in child abuse.
"It seemed to be about its tweeting videos that the Boston Children's Hospital put out to promote its own program."
LoTT's MO. Progs triggered by prog insanity when exposed.
"passed along video labeled "Yale Pediatric Gender Program director says she treats kids as young as THREE on their 'gender journey' including medical intervention.""
The whole LoTT kerfuffle is a subset of the righties-pounce genre. They say! They post! They falsely accuse! But in this case, progs cannot be so sure their transvaluation will work, since transgenderism also triggers their usual audience of nice women, who still think child mutiliation is not so nice.
Its incredible, there’s nothing but the original tweets retweeted- no twisted headline or commentary…simply curating damning leftie speech in one place…
All societies eventually collapse. I thought ours would wait until at least a century after I died. I think I was wrong.
Boston's Children's Hospital ran a video, since edited, promoting "top surgery" (breast removal) on children as young as 15. If link does not work, it's on Insty.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1560010150051778561
Perusing articles on Gender Dysphoria/ Gender Euphoria (huh??), I discovered that I am a AMAB, an Assigned Male At Birth. Who assigned this to me? The doctor? My mother? The neighbor? How about God.
These people are nuts .... and I am not referring to the patients. OTOH, it could be all about the money.
..apparently gathering the propaganda and displaying it together alters the intent and we can’t have that…
This is textbook echo chamber politics. Gender treatment was aggressively promoted by zealous activists on the inside, the official content was created by insiders, and the release was vetted by insiders in power. They were all on the same team.
Only when released was there a critical multi-viewpoint examination. Then the insiders employed the primal defense mechanisms of denial and projection of their own flaws onto their opponents. The lack of listening to opponents, the lack of allowing comics to say the emperor has no clothes, and over-eager support for blind activism results in primitive and primal life strategies.
Jordan Peterson called this out as a huge error in great detail circa 2016 to 2017. It seems the left shot the messenger because (probably) Trump happened in the same period. And the same dynamic may have allowed Josef Mengele to happen in the Nazi concentration camps too.
In a startling coincidence at about the same time Facebook got em too…
I believe Libs of TikTok before I would EVER believe anything Politifact, twitter, or Teen Vogue ever had to say because of them have lied to us over and over and over again. And we KNOW Progressives want to mutilate little kids. It's all they talk about. SOMEBODY is mutilating them. Admit it.
Trans/neogender conversion, grooming, phobic projections, diversity (e.g. racism, sexism, ageism), and corruption progresses in darkness.
From the LOT feed, “ Q: Are doctors doing gender surgeries on minors?
A: Yes, one hospital in Boston did 65 double mastectomies on minors between 2017-2020
https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9000168/pdf/jcm-11-01943.pdf”
This is completely shocking.
As to the threats directing at the Boston hospital, I don’t believe them. I didn’t believe Jessie Smullett either.
Oh, there will be a Reckoning, all right. Be careful what you encourage people to wish for.
The desire to make the world transform to internal human fantasy rather than humans conforming to the world as presented will end in tragedy, if done as fecklessly as this. Reality will only respond to negotiation to a limited extent.
The wounded survivors will be making their thoughts heard soon enough. They will bring lawyers. History will ask, "how could this have ever happened?"
Millennial times bring waves of mass delusion.
The Left has descended into pure evil. Censoring the truth is proof that they know they are wrong and can’t handle the truth.
The left doesn't like anyone who disagrees with them and want them silenced, even if what was said was true. It's a totalitarian mindset. What amazes me is how quickly certain words and phrases are distributed among the faithful and completely adopted. It's a hive mind.
Oh, Teen Vogue reports, quoting none other than Taylor Lorenz so it must be reporting at an unimpeachable level. It's funny the claim that The Boston Children's Hospital only added the disclaimer that the procedures are available for patients 18 or older after Libs of TikTok had posted the video.
https://pjmedia.com/columns/paula-bolyard/2022/08/17/well-thats-odd-boston-childrens-stealth-edited-its-website-after-libs-of-tiktok-outed-their-teen-trans-surgery-policy-n1621610
Facebook was in on the game this time too, but that ban didn’t last.
Gone is the concern of using abortion to get a perfect child. Now you just have them undergo life altering surgery before puberty.
This is just disparate impact analysis applied to social media. The rules are different, depending on how they affect Democrats.
"Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech?"
Everyone knows the answer to this question already. The answer is yes. Twitter is not in the information business, it is in the perception business. It's funny to because Dorsey doesn't even look like Goebbels.
Simply incredible how libs of tic toc has been harassed for retweeting what the other side says and presents themselves. The establishment reaction says loud and clear that they can offer no rational argument for their policies and actions. The truth of their positions is based on coerced assent alone. Therefore, if airing their positions generates controversy and rejection, it must be because they were misrepresented. The teller is the fault, not their own words and actions. Amazing but true.
“ Libs of TikTok was, by its own report, suspended from Twitter and told it was a final decision, but now — as you can see at that link — it is back.”
Emily Litella Althouse, your link goes to a Tweet about Libs of Tik Tok being suspended from Facebook not Twitter.
Don't believe your lying eyes. progressives NEVER lie to get what they want. https://twitter.com/buttonslives/status/1557490888531648512?s=20&t=pNHBpwPawohtFO0M31LB6A
While it's possible to quote exactly what someone says but dishonestly omit part of it that's exculpatory, the people who do that are on on the left or anti-Trump fake conservatives, like Liz Cheney. She quoted Trump on 1/6 but omitted the "Go peacefully" part. So she's a hero to the MSM. Once again the left/MSM accuses conservatives of doing what they themselves are guilty of.
There is plenty of evidence that teachers and doctors, as intellectuals or pseudo-intellectuals keeping up with the times, have a strong interest in encouraging children not only to think there are genders other than male or female (don't bully those "different" kids) but that you personally are possibly or probably some gender that might be unique to you. Dress up and make up. Don't just identify with "weird" kids, go weird yourself--the weirder the better. Tell your parents you're contemplating suicide, the real you needs to get out.
What surprises me the most is that professionals are trying to get children to accept changes, including medications, without parental consent. It's hard to believe surgeries can be done that way, unless surgery is sold to parents as necessary for health, while it is sold to the kids as self-affirming. Anyway, there is clearly a large movement behind all this, the outcroppings of crazy that LOTT has identified are not outliers being judged unfairly, but in fact fairly typical.
Wokeism suggests that identity and respect determine success and failure more than anything else, so things like hard work or natural attributes relevant to things like math are less important. As long as there are constant affirmations that all identities are equal, reinforced by apparently mainstream people coming out as some unusual identity, this seems to achieve justice even if very little is done about the old left-wing issues, like poverty and homelessness. You don't have to be left-wing or right-wing to worry about open borders, drugs, and endless wars, but these things are all part of the Bidenista package. "You can't criticize us, we're the ones achieving a much greater diversity of true or authentic identities."
did you catch this?
" like haircuts and name and pronoun changes, can happen at any age, while treatments like puberty blockers typically start at the onset of puberty and certain affirming surgery, while sometimes performed on teens, typically takes place in adulthood."
"Certain affirming surgery!" ... "Can happen at any age."
Doesn't' politifact need to update to reflect the truth?
Libs of TikTok was doxxed by Taylor Lorenz. She briefly went into hiding. She’s a brave woman bringing attention to this butchery.
BCH has a history of superseding the rights of parents in treatment of their minor children. See: https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/parents-accuse-mass-hospital-locking-daughter-psych-ward-article-1.1609998
And yes, they published a peer-reviewed paper on their performance of gender reassignment surgeries on 65 child patients, and the paper is accessible at: https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9000168/pdf/jcm-11-01943.pdf
I'm not shocked; they have been a law unto themselves for a long time.
Let’s face it: the whole gender affirming surgery on anyone under 25 (brain fully developed) is a racket based on medical quackery. Good thing they don’t recommend frontal lobe surgery, but this close.
Bah! If you have these delusions, learn to live with them. Adults who can make reasoned decisions can take drastic actions based on their lived experiences.
Jordan Peterson has an interesting hypothesis as to why more young adults are said to be unhappy with their identity.
It rings true to me, but I’m no expert.
Copy pasta 👉🏽 https://youtu.be/Z9SD2TgiZTU
Someday we'll look back upon Gender Affirming Care with the same revulsion as the lobotomies performed on misbehaving children in the 50s
Yikes. 'Misinformation!' Teen Vogue! Politifact! Gender affirming!.All in one article.
I don't know which is worse, wielding those common buzzwords that are used to ward off accusations that are real, or leaning on Teen Vogue and Politifact to give you some gravitas.
I saw a couple of the Libs of TikTok videos including one in which a Boston Children's Hospital pediatric psychologist stated that kids as young as 3 know when their gender is off and that some know this in the womb. Which struck me as interesting if they're just a clump of cells while in the womb. But that's hurtful speech.
Anyway, every one of the videos I saw posted by Libs of TikTok were doctors speaking- smilingly and with seemingly great pride- in their own words. They were clearly proud of the standards they spoke of.
Interesting that once this becomes public and is not received by the rank and file as genius progressive evolving mentality, they claim to be attacked and put into an awful place. Its hard when your words and actions leave the bubble in which you reside and work.
I read this morning that Libs of TikTok has been removed from Facebook. I also read yesterday that Facebook is gearing up for election 'help' nationally. It's clear that all of Big Tech is gearing up for the November elections.
Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?
Yes as Twitter’s history with LOTT shows over and over.
Libs of Tik Tok simply exposes Teachers who post their green haired ranting gender identity videos on Tik Tok. There is a real battle in the US between Parents and Groomers. These kids are being groomed at public schools. Shocking to see the current profile of public-school teachers.
She hits the medical community too, who are not engaging in life altering treatments and surgeries on young people who are still developing.
It’s no coincidence that these are two main professions that lost a great deal of credibility during the pandemic…both needing the “heroes work here” validation; unable to get over themselves. The medical community did harm to their patients, and the teachers unions greatly harmed children
Both for self-preservation and promotion.
I can’t even watch the videos anymore they’re so bad, and so infuriating. The absolute sureness of their mission. The unqualified arrogance. It’s Svengali and Dr. Frankenstein stuff.
Althouse provides links to humorous and interesting Tik Toc videos which I think we all enjoy. There is a small introduction in the link. Most are pretty entertaining and interesting; and it is amplified to the Althouse audience. Althouse combs Tik Toc so we don't have to. It's a service provided by this blog.
The woman who runs Libs of Tik Tok does the same thing. She just combs Tic Tok for a specific type of content, and and amplifies it to her audience. Perhaps not the target audience of the green haired / nose ringed poster, but Tik Tok is open content for all to see. She is providing a legitimate social service.
What's the difference?
so,
at age 5, your child says she might be a boy... So, She IS
at age 10, your child starts chemical castration (puberty blockers) which is fine! it's Not surgery!
at age 12, your child starts hormone treatments.. Which is fine! it's Not surgery!
[at this point your child is sterile, there is NO Going Back]
at age 15, your child has top surgery.. Which is FINE! it's Not genital surgery!
[now your disgusting freak of a child, has NO WAY of Ever looking like a girl; and so..]
at age 18, your child has bottom surgery. Which is FINE! we said we don't do that to minors!!
at age 24, your freakshow freak, kills herself for being a freakshow freak..
and That Proves Gender Dysphoria is REAL! Look at All the suicides! If Only we could have started younger!
These people are nuts .... and I am not referring to the patients. OTOH, it could be all about the money.
I don't think so. These people think they are uniquely qualified to save the world. And they will stomp on anyone who disagrees.
You say some shit and your face is deranged.
I hold up a mirror. "Look at your face," I say.
You smash the mirror and attack me in public for being a monster.
Twitter is operationally and objectively pro-groomer.
Don't let your children read Teen Vogue.
Leftwing garbage and propaganda.
The desire to make the world transform to internal human fantasy rather than humans conforming to the world as presented will end in tragedy, if done as fecklessly as this.
Liberals are particularly vulnerable to this because they are all about changing the world.
Liberals: "Let's change the world!"
Conservatives: "Let's take it slow."
Liberals have fantasies about how the world should be and they are entirely capable of ignoring how the world is.
Fantasy: "I'm a boy."
Reality: "I'm a girl."
The safer (conservative) thing to do ("First, do no harm") is to alter the fantasy, and get your fantasy life in line with your biological reality. And you accept that you're a girl.
Liberals say this is evil. Fantasies can never be denied! You know what you are in your mind!
A major problem with the "sex-reassignment surgery" is that it's just plastic surgery.
Fantasy: "I'm a boy."
Reality: "I look like a boy but I have a secret I have to keep."
This makes people suicidal. Imagine the stress of hiding photographs, family, old friends, all of whom knew your former self. Imagine the stress of keeping an important secret from people you are trying to marry. She wants to have a baby and you know that will never happen.
This is a bad idea from the get-go. But it's a spectacularly bad idea to do this to young children. (Who don't even understand reality yet!)
Why are you so secretive about it? I'm sure people on the left hate to be told that they've declared war on children. But what else do you call killing babies, castrating boys, and sexualizing people who haven't been through puberty yet? And on some level liberals know the reality looks bad. So you censor the shit out of it.
You need a Teen Vogue tag. Every time a mag is pushing the worst of hyper-sexualization of children, it's them. Not Cosmo, not the ones you'd expect. TEEN Vogue. Who runs that place? Where do they get their money? I bet a tag would make an interesting (horrific) compilation.
It's funny to because Dorsey doesn't even look like Goebbels.
Dorsey's not running Twitter anymore. He's been out for six months.
Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?
The left just cannot be honest about what they are doing.
They cannot be honest about their goals.
Their ideas cannot survive open honest debate.
That is all this is about.
IDEA! Let's ask Bill Clinton what "typically" means! Alec Baldwin might say that when you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger, typically no one gets shot.
Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?
The Left in general defines "hate speech" as "any speech I don't like."
So yes, Twitter defines "showing videos that hurt the Left" as "hate speech." It doesn't matter the source. It doesn't matter the content. The truth / falsity is entirely unimportant.
The only thing that matters is "is it bad for the Party."
And since Libs of TikTok spreads truths that show how vile the Left is, they are by the Left's definition "hate speech."
I'm glad you're looking tat this. I'm glad you're getting appalled at what what at least used to be "your side" is doing.
I hope you'll find it just as repulsive as the rest of us. Because IMO this is. "decent human beings vs scum" issue, not just "Right vs Left".
There is no such thing as "hate speech"
There is no human organization that is qualified to decide what is disinformation or misinformation, and block people from spreading it
Social media companies are the new public square, and no one should EVER be allowed to control the public square. If you want to be a publisher, with the right to control who says what on your platform, and your platform is closer to "Twitter" size than to "Althouse blog" size, then you are legally responsible for every single thing you publish, to the exact same extent that the NYT is legally responsible for everything they publish in their paper.
All good people should be able to agree with that. And all good people should guarantee never to support or vote for any person or group who disagrees with any of those
Sorry I mixed up Facebook and Twitter. I added some notes to the original post to make sense of that.
rrsafety said...
The biggest problem with Libs if TikTok is they claim to only post somebody else’s words. This is untrue. They often editorial like when tweeting content and sometimes they are inaccurate in what they say. Libs of TT should shut up and let the content of others they post speak for itself.
"Why should I watch this 10 minute video?"
"We're not allowed to say that. We're only allowed to share it"
So, I guess the questions is rrsafety, are you thoughtless ,stupid, nuts, or just on the other side and a dishonest lying hack?
You're free to click on the video without reading what LoTT writes. So it follows that you're one of those authoritarian fascists who wants to decide what other people are allowed to say or read.
You might want to spend some time thinking about whether you want to be that kind of person
And some more thinking about whether you want to live in an America where other people can do that to you.
Or are you just so stupid that it's never occurred to you the people you don't like, who don't like you, could get the gov't powers you want to give to your side?
It is a lot easier to understand when you realize that journalists are, on the whole, activists and they are advocating for one side. In addition, a large percentage of journalists are otherwise incompetent in just about every way imaginable other than getting paid, so even if they were trying to be neutral they are not good at their jobs anyway. They are easily duped, though whether they are duped because they want to be or because they are stupid varies.
And Big Tech is on their side. Big Tech moderators are failed journalists, essentially.
Bob R said...
Libs of TikTok would be better off sticking strictly to their business model and doing ONLY retweets
You are free to think and say that, for now.
But, for now, Libs of TikTok is free to disagree with you.
So, the relevant question is: SHOULD LoTT be free to disagree with you?
Or should they be forced to do it your way, with the threat of destruction if they continue doing it their way?
Commenters are getting lazy about making links. To learn how to create a link in Ann's comments, touch here. Simple and makes your links work without copying and pasting.
"Does Twitter think it's hate speech to repeat someone else's speech, giving it higher profile and opening it up for debate among a larger and more diverse group?"
The design of Twitter, from the ground up, is to identify those speakers who are "influencers" ... in other words, those speakers that other people listen to. You (Ann) aren't influential. You do not have 300,000 Twitter "followers." So you're free to say anything you like.
The reason why its important to establish factually who are the people others listen to is so that you can identify those people in real life (as opposed to their internet personas.) The reason that you want to identify these people in real life is to be able to target them if they do not advance the "correct" narrative.
The answer to your question is that Twitter is designed to regulate speech. It works hand-in-hand with the United States government to squelch the speech the government doesn't want receiving an audience. Speech that the government doesn't like is suppressed. Of course, Twitter only does this in service to Democrat Party-led governments.
So yes, in Twitter's eyes, any speech that is deemed to hurt Democrats, even if that speech is made by the Democrats, is to be restricted.
Now, you aren't going to like that answer. But there isn't a damn thing you can do about it and they know it. They know who you are, how many people follow you, and that you aren't a threat to them.
Now, can such an organization be allowed to exist in a free country? I ask you.
Thanks for the links reference. I can never seem to get that right.
"The biggest problem with Libs if TikTok is they claim to only post somebody else’s words. This is untrue. They often editorial like when tweeting content and sometimes they are inaccurate in what they say. Libs of TT should shut up and let the content of others they post speak for itself."
Yes, stating "...below is a video that demonstrates the truth that hospitals ...chop off a young person's genitalia..." when the hospital states they perform bottom surgery on teens is graphic, but I don't think 'chop off' is a deceiving editorial statement, even if the hospital is using a sharp scalpel.
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https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9000168/pdf/jcm-11-01943.pdf
Quoting from the very beginning of the paper without any changes other than bolding
No nothing following it was clipped for softening the appalling parts:
Abstract: Most minors and young transgender persons wishing to undergo gender-affirming surgery need to seek specialists affiliated with gender affirmation programs in adult hospitals. Research suggests gender affirmation surgery has been established as an effective and medically indicated treatment for gender dysphoria. Although most data on gender-affirming surgeries are from adult populations, there is growing literature establishing their effectiveness in adolescents and young adults.
My position: no person should be allowed to take puberty blockers, or any other pharmaceuticals, for "gender dysphoria". Any doctor prescribing such drug use should have his or her medical license permanently revoked with no way to get it back, as well as 10 years in prison for each person so damaged
No "gender-affirming surgery" should ever be allowed for anyone who is not on his or her own private medical insurance. Medicare / Medicaid should NOT be allowed to pay for such things
If you're not functional enough to get and hold a job that provides health insurance, and can't even make enough money so you can get insurance on an ObamaCare exchange, then you're not functional enough to decide that your body should be permanently altered
Finally: there does not exist ANY study that shows that giving kids "gender affirming care" actually makes them better off. In particular, the Seattle study, read honestly by someone who thinks about what's being written and not written, is strong proof that those treatments have essentially no positive benefits, and most certainly not enough benefit to justify the irreversible physical effects on the kids taking the drugs
Really finally: it is not even remotely possible to "reversibly" block / delay puberty. Puberty blockers were invented for the purpose of having irreversible positive effects on kids whose bodies were going into puberty too early
Giving them to kids whose bodies are going into puberty on a normal schedule always has irreversible effects. So anyone saying the treatment is "reversible" is lying to you
You might want to ask yourself WHY they're lying to you. Because the usual reason for that is "the truth is bad"
LoTT is doing God's work, and for the most part just posts content that originated with someone else.
If I am not mistaken, I believe the hospital replaced the video concerning the age of treatment once they got caught...
In a sane world, anyone who performs this kind of surgery would be ostracized, their license to practice pulled, and they would face serious jail time.
WTF is wrong with our society?
Liberalism.
Sorry, cherry picking someone's one words isn't "hate speech". If someone is "Cherry picking" your words, they're still YOUR WORDS. You can push back and say they are misrepresenting you, but that's not the same as them lying about you, or making threats.
If online speech leads to "threats", then all the liberals breathing hate against Trump and his family should be banned. Everyone who calls him a nazi/fascist/racist should be banned, because what do we do with Nazis? We cancel them, and have jailed and killed them. That's antifa's whole mission statement.
It's too late to stop this insanity. There's too much money to be made. Puberty blockers are big business for the pharmaceutical industry. Top surgery is up to $10,000 and bottom surgery $25,000. The "need" for this butchery is booming due to social contagion, especially in girls (see any of Abigail Shrier's interviews).
The UK is shutting down its Tavistock children's gender identity clinic, mostly because it wasn't serving enough customers. The NHS will be setting up regional clinics to replace it.
What Static Ping said!
"A: Yes, one hospital in Boston did 65 double mastectomies on minors between 2017-2020."
That means one or more "doctors" cut healthy breasts off of 65 disturbed young women. Those "doctors" are evil monsters.
I'm not on Twitter to produce a link but apparently there is some dispute about exactly what's happening with the LoTT FaceBook account as of Thursday 16 August 2022 at 12:20pm ET. The last posting/comment that I've seen via Instapundit is that people can apparently view the LoTT FaceBook page but that LoTT herself is blocked from accessing the account.
Mengele, Kavorkian, Sanger, Cecile, Gosnell et al were merely publicly observed anomalies where demos-cracy is otherwise groomed, mutilated, aborted in darkness.
Side point:
When a leftists claims they've "received threats", but doesn't release the "threats", it's because that leftist is lying.
People who actually receive something that a sane person would consider a threat have no problem with publicizing the threat
It's only people who are making shit up, or who score "I hope you get monkeypox and die" as a "threat" that hide them.
So, has Boston Children mutilating Hospital published the "threats" they've been getting?
No?
That's because they're lying about them
One day, in the not too distant future, this will all be a scandal and the lawyers who are suing Camp Lejeune will be after these hospitals and doctors. Remember how the "recovered memories" thing ended. Of course more of the country was sane then.
In their defense, the hospital says puberty blockers don't start until puberty...which can be age 13. They don't see how horrific this is.
As always, unless they prove me wrong, I will assume that "threats of violence" include anything that disagrees with them.
There is actually a long history of this "hide it from your parents" stuff. Way back in the 80s or earlier, libs were trying to get condoms in high schools and get girls on the pill, and get abortions for teens, all without parental permission. They've been coming for your kids for a long time.
At age 4 my friend's son said he wants to be a front-end loader when he grows up. Do we turn him into a cyborg to "affirm" him? Why not? It has been shown that a good 70-80% of teens with gender dysphoria decide they are simply gay or lesbian if you leave them alone.
Imagine a video made by a cop for other cops addressing community policing. He talks for an hour. A few minutes are about recognizing "out of place" people, dressed differently, speaking a different language, different skin tones ... than the rest of the neighborhood.
If the worst interpretation is places on a short out-take ...
rhhardin: I wish you could see the sexually abused children I have seen. From boys raped in correctional facilities with few consequences, if any, to split open bleeding girls infected with VD, to millions of stomachs churning videos of raping children including infants, to a dad even sexually abusing his five year old daughter inside a supervised center during a court ordered visitation -- no, he wasn't even arrested -- ignorant naysayers like you have made the sexual violation of children the least prosecuted and most prevalent type of sexual violence. And even serial molesters rarely face more than probation. Some day a hard rain is going to come -- and sweep propagandists like you up with men caught sticking their dicks in infants. Enjoy the company. You and your type have made prosecuting child rapists practically impossible unless they film themselves doing it.
J Melcher said...
Imagine a video made by a cop for other cops addressing community policing. He talks for an hour. A few minutes are about recognizing "out of place" people, dressed differently, speaking a different language, different skin tones ... than the rest of the neighborhood.
I'm sure it would get massive coverage on NBC, CBA, ABC, NPR, CNN and MSNBC, with massive calls for him to be fired
See Trump's "good people on both sides" comment.
So, let us know when all those organizations are banned form Twitter and Facebook for misinformation.
Until then?
Cry me a river about LoTT
Here, Libs of Tic Tok ten minutes ago.
California school won’t let a 4-year-old in without a mask. It’s not loud or in your face. The teacher is wearing a mask and doing what the California school district is telling her. The father is filming. He’s calm too. The 4-year-old is being 4-years-old. The cop is ok. Doing what he’s told to do too.
But the school calls the cops instead of letting a four-year-old in, who is NOT sick. That’s psychotic. Let California be California. Fuck ‘em. Same with Madison, WI. But libs of Tik Tok shows you what these fucking psychos are doing, and they are not all isolated to California, and Boston, Madison.
Crazy shit like this took over the woke Chicago suburbs too. My hometown, Elmhurst, IL had grade school kids eating lunch, outside, on the sidewalk, in 25 degree fucking weather! That’s psycho!!! It’s wicked Stepmother form Cinderella bullshit.
These people can be in your own backyard, unless Ron DeSantis is your Governor.
The woman that runs Libs of Tik Toc has one main theme and goal. Protecting children from psychos by amplification and self-exposure of people and institutions that claim to be protecting children, but are actually exploiting and abusing them for self-preservation and advancement.
GOD BLESS THAT BRAVE WOMAN.
I never ever want Joe Rogan to be on my side.
As I posted on Gab yesterday, Children's would have been better to keep a low profile in this. They did not exactly cover themselves in glory with the Pelletier medical kidnapping deal about 10 years ago.
Why would that young female doctor in the BCH video do what she's describing? Is that why she went into medicine for children? Is it just the money - it pays very well, I understand - or is there something else at play there?
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