Talking to 93 year old former fighter led to this..
"Rondinone contends that the Gillette Cavalcade of Sports, which produced the Friday Night Fights, provided a unique bonding experience for “Greatest Generation” fathers and their Baby Boomer sons. The turbulent Sixties lay ahead, but those fathers and sons were united in the experience of viewing boxing together–something they were able to do every Friday night. Theirs was a closeness that Boomers found it hard to replicate with their own sons. As time passed, parents shook their heads and wondered what happened to the closeness and simplicity of the fifties. Children came to see their fathers as old-fashioned. TV boxing, once an agent of bonding and manhood education, is increasingly seen not as entertainment, but as evidence of anachronistic barbarism…. The heroes of Friday nights tumble into oblivion and poverty. But, as Rondinone argues, in that one historic moment in 1955, all was well. The boxers were on top, and the generations were at peace, counting the blows and cheering their man." https://nepca.blog/2014/05/28/remembering-the-friday-night-fights/
I saw the documentary "WBCN and the American Revolution" about the "legendary" 60s/70s Boston rock station. I liked the first 20 minutes about the Boston radio and music scene before WBCN. After that it was a lot of boring, self-congratulatory boomer chat about their role in ending the war and taking down a president. I preferred the more innocuous documentary "Life On The V" about the "legendary" short-lived 80s Boston television station that played music videos. It was more about my own generation.
60s/70s radicals hated the plastic, corporate, commercial culture and wanted something more authentic and immediate, but it's more the trashy pop stuff that many of us remember and that marks the age for us. Sure, most of it wasn't very good, but most of the counterculture wasn't that great. The music of the 60s and early 70s, sure, but all the other stuff surrounding it -- the truth is that that stuff wasn't that good either.
Rupert Murdoch has abandoned Donald Trump in a NY Post editorial. What lies ahead for the rest of News Corps holdings?
As his followers stormed the Capitol, calling for his vice president to be hanged, President Donald Trump sat in his private dining room, watching TV, doing nothing.
For three hours, seven minutes.
There has been much debate over whether Trump’s rally speech on Jan. 6, 2021, constituted “incitement.” That’s somewhat of a red herring. What matters more — and has become crystal clear in recent days — is that Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop the violence that followed.
And he was the only person who could stop what was happening. He was the only one the crowd was listening to. It was incitement by silence.
Trump only wanted one thing during that infamous afternoon: to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to decertify the election of Joe Biden.
He thought the violence of his loyal followers would make Pence crack, or delay the vote altogether.
To his eternal shame, as appalled aides implored him to publicly call on his followers to go home, he instead further fanned the flames by tweeting: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.”
His only focus was to find any means — damn the consequences — to block the peaceful transfer of power.
There is no other explanation, just as there is no defense, for his refusal to stop the violence.
It’s up to the Justice Department to decide if this is a crime. But as a matter of principle, as a matter of character, Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country’s chief executive again.
"Every president yearns to be historic—but not historic like Joe Biden. At this point in his presidency Mr Biden’s singular achievement is to have the lowest approval rating of any incumbent since the 1950s. Even among Democrats, 67% think the economy is doing poorly, 78% think the country is heading in the wrong direction and 64% want another presidential candidate on the ticket in 2024.
Mr Biden took office promising to heal the soul of the nation. Eighteen months later he has little to show for his efforts. Inflation has sapped goodwill. The White House’s attempts to mobilise the state, including the theory-of-everything bill known as Build Back Better, have stalled in Congress. Democrats are bracing themselves for heavy losses in mid-term elections in November, which would doom most of the administration’s remaining ambitions. A gerontocratic rematch in 2024 could well see Donald Trump returned to the White House—legitimately."
I don't recall much attention to boxing on TV when I was growing up. The big heavyweight bouts were covered but none of us knew anything about boxing except it looked pretty cool. A few of us had boxing gloves, little used.
Which makes it amusing when we were at a party the night the Ali-Holmes(?) contest was broadcast, when a bunch of W/white middleclass guys were suddenly commentators and experts in front of the womenfolk. What's doubly amusing is that we actually did see things that the women didn't, and one of them told us later that she'd never thought before that there was anything to boxing but raw flailing.
that there was anything to boxing but raw flailing.
When I was living in a workers' dorm in Germany there were two cousins from the Ivory Coast also living there, one of whom had sparred with Dick Tiger. He showed me some things, and yes, I learned that there was a lot more to boxing than raw flailing. In particular, a lot of the defensive and counter punching was directed at particular muscles with the aim of weakening them. I'm in no way a boxer, but there really is a science to it.
We have Kathy Hochul labelling Lee Zeldin a extremist and encourages the stalking of him. Some nut case takes the bait and tries to stab him. Do we need a congressional hearing?
If Zeldin's security was armed, would they be justified in taking him out?
What violence ashley babbit shot like a dog rosalyn boyland beaten to death almost as high a body count as the boston massacre but that came from the peacemakers pelosis personal keystone killers
Too many dont seem to care about how this country is being irrevocably destroyed with the cooperation of practically every media outlet and every government agency
I'm waiting for the DemoncRAT Department of Injustice to indict Trump. For anything they can think of. That's when Trump's support solidifies. The Never Trump wing of the Republican Party is going to come to the realization that they're next when Trump is indicted over nothing. And people on the edge are going to shift over to Trump- no one in the USA wants to live in a Banana Republic where former leaders are thrown in jail because the new ones dislike the old ones..
News Corp is calling in the editorials blasting Trump. WSJ is right in line with Murdoch's Last Stand in the NY Post. That makes for News Corp's largest US print and digital newspapers. So far, nothing from the Aussie and Limey branches of the Murdoch empire.
The Hopeless gadfly: "Rupert Murdoch has abandoned Donald Trump in a NY Post editorial."
LOL
gadfly actually believes Murdoch was a Trump fan!
Unbelievable! But then again, it is gadfly after all.
Murdoch hates Trump. Always has. Even in the lead up to 2016. Murdoch directed Megyn Kelly to destroy Trump.
But Trump survived after which Murdoch reluctantly backed Trump when the republican field was down to 3 candidates and Murdoch reportedly thought only Trump could beat gadfly's beloved Hillary.
Murdoch also backed some policies that Trump espoused over the years.
The ONLY people who dont know this history are far left democraticals...and gadfly!
“The Republican faithful are telling me,” the Great American, Bill Cunningham of WKRP--umm--WLW in Cincinnati said, “they can't find J.D. Vance with a search warrant.”
@Prince Hal, (Hopefully you'll see this.) Thank you for that anecdote on a prior comment thread, about FDR, Willie, and Churchill, and the poems they exchanged. That was wonderful.
Can you imagine anything like that happening today? "As we prepare for our battle against climate change, here's a Maya Angelou poem."
Dave Weigel's out of gender insensitivity jail and telling WaPo readers what the unwashed GOP masses are saying about the plans the current administration has for them. In the comments, the readership basically screams SHUT UP! The level of combined incredulity and unawareness from the WaPo reader base is staggering.
Reference to boxing commentators above, boxing is the only sport I can watch enthusiastically without having a rooting interest in the outcome. Sweet science is an accurate description and seeing tactics change as a fight progresses is fascinating. You can’t win without throwing punches yet every punch you throw leaves you open to serious pain and also expends energy. The middle and lower weights have some good fighters today but, as ever, the governing bodies are trash. It is a hard sport to follow because there are too many weight classes and too many sanctioning bodies so there are too many redundant champs.
Additional facts from the aforementioned Nation Review article:
"In 2016, Gabriel Debenedetti of Politico laid out how the Hillary Clinton campaign “always wanted Trump” as its general-election opponent. “Clinton’s team in Brooklyn was delightedly puzzled by Trump’s shift into the pole position that July. . . . [Campaign manager Robby] Mook took him so seriously that his team’s internal, if informal, guidance was to hold fire on Trump during the primary and resist the urge to distribute any of the opposition research the Democrats were scrambling to amass against him. That hoarding plan remained in place deep into 2016 as some senior aides stayed convinced that a race against Trump would be a dream for Clinton.” When Trump was nominated, the Democratic Party’s top operatives, strategists, and activists boasted, “In the swing states that matter most in the presidential race, Donald Trump doesn’t have a prayer against Hillary Clinton in the general election.”
The 2016 election was about as shocking and painful a defeat for Democrats as any U.S. political party has suffered in the past generation.
You would think that Democrats would have learned from the 2016 results to never assume that someone is unelectable and to never play with fire by boosting a radical fringe candidate in a GOP primary. But that idea assumes that Democrats are capable of learning from their mistakes."
At the risk of running afoul of the "repetition" guideline, I'll say again that the DNCC intended to run Donald Trump as a straw candidate, just as Claire McCaskill did in Missouri some years before. While it's true that the party underestimated his appeal (and overestimated Hillary's), their gift of free TV coverage, negative as it was, helped and didn't hinder to he Trump campaign. What concerns me most is the bald manipulation of our democratic process to secure their desired result.
"President Joe Biden in June achieved the highest disapproval rating in the history of modern polling. This month, his popularity declined even further.
About 60 percent of Americans disapprove of the president, according to FiveThirtyEight’s polling average. Just 38 percent of Americans approve. Biden's disapproval has risen and his approval has fallen by a few points in the last month, when he first became the most unpopular commander in chief in recorded history."
Source: FiveThirtyEight via the Washington Free Beacon
"President Joe Biden in June achieved the highest disapproval rating in the history of modern polling. This month, his popularity declined even further."
If you want to know why gadfly is working overtime to distract from the inevitable and easily predicted massive failure of his beloved democratical's policies, this would be it.
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I saw that moon over our lake this morning. About 3am.
Talking to 93 year old former fighter led to this..
"Rondinone contends that the Gillette Cavalcade of Sports, which produced the Friday Night Fights, provided a unique bonding experience for “Greatest Generation” fathers and their Baby Boomer sons.
The turbulent Sixties lay ahead, but those fathers and sons were united in the experience of viewing boxing together–something they were able to do every Friday night.
Theirs was a closeness that Boomers found it hard to replicate with their own sons. As time passed, parents shook their heads and wondered what happened to the closeness and simplicity of the fifties.
Children came to see their fathers as old-fashioned. TV boxing, once an agent of bonding and manhood education, is increasingly seen not as entertainment, but as evidence of anachronistic barbarism…. The heroes of Friday nights tumble into oblivion and poverty. But, as Rondinone argues, in that one historic moment in 1955, all was well. The boxers were on top, and the generations were at peace, counting the blows and cheering their man."
https://nepca.blog/2014/05/28/remembering-the-friday-night-fights/
..and" Gasper Ortega was a very active fighter. As his career was winding down, Ortega fought no fewer than 10 times in Mexico in May of 1964 alone.
The AP announced last night that Marilyn Mosby has lost her primary. Hallelujah.
I saw the documentary "WBCN and the American Revolution" about the "legendary" 60s/70s Boston rock station. I liked the first 20 minutes about the Boston radio and music scene before WBCN. After that it was a lot of boring, self-congratulatory boomer chat about their role in ending the war and taking down a president. I preferred the more innocuous documentary "Life On The V" about the "legendary" short-lived 80s Boston television station that played music videos. It was more about my own generation.
60s/70s radicals hated the plastic, corporate, commercial culture and wanted something more authentic and immediate, but it's more the trashy pop stuff that many of us remember and that marks the age for us. Sure, most of it wasn't very good, but most of the counterculture wasn't that great. The music of the 60s and early 70s, sure, but all the other stuff surrounding it -- the truth is that that stuff wasn't that good either.
Clip of a Jordan Peterson interview with Abigail Shrier.
Link to video
"Abigail Shrier is a frequent contributor to the Wall Street Journal and author of Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters."
Rupert Murdoch has abandoned Donald Trump in a NY Post editorial. What lies ahead for the rest of News Corps holdings?
As his followers stormed the Capitol, calling for his vice president to be hanged, President Donald Trump sat in his private dining room, watching TV, doing nothing.
For three hours, seven minutes.
There has been much debate over whether Trump’s rally speech on Jan. 6, 2021, constituted “incitement.” That’s somewhat of a red herring. What matters more — and has become crystal clear in recent days — is that Trump didn’t lift a finger to stop the violence that followed.
And he was the only person who could stop what was happening. He was the only one the crowd was listening to. It was incitement by silence.
Trump only wanted one thing during that infamous afternoon: to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to decertify the election of Joe Biden.
He thought the violence of his loyal followers would make Pence crack, or delay the vote altogether.
To his eternal shame, as appalled aides implored him to publicly call on his followers to go home, he instead further fanned the flames by tweeting: “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.”
His only focus was to find any means — damn the consequences — to block the peaceful transfer of power.
There is no other explanation, just as there is no defense, for his refusal to stop the violence.
It’s up to the Justice Department to decide if this is a crime. But as a matter of principle, as a matter of character, Trump has proven himself unworthy to be this country’s chief executive again.
When you've lost the Economist...
The Democrats need to wake up and stop pandering to their extremes
"Every president yearns to be historic—but not historic like Joe Biden. At this point in his presidency Mr Biden’s singular achievement is to have the lowest approval rating of any incumbent since the 1950s. Even among Democrats, 67% think the economy is doing poorly, 78% think the country is heading in the wrong direction and 64% want another presidential candidate on the ticket in 2024.
Mr Biden took office promising to heal the soul of the nation. Eighteen months later he has little to show for his efforts. Inflation has sapped goodwill. The White House’s attempts to mobilise the state, including the theory-of-everything bill known as Build Back Better, have stalled in Congress. Democrats are bracing themselves for heavy losses in mid-term elections in November, which would doom most of the administration’s remaining ambitions. A gerontocratic rematch in 2024 could well see Donald Trump returned to the White House—legitimately."
The rest is behind a paywall, but is examined here:Why Democrats Won’t Wake Up
I don't recall much attention to boxing on TV when I was growing up. The big heavyweight bouts were covered but none of us knew anything about boxing except it looked pretty cool. A few of us had boxing gloves, little used.
Which makes it amusing when we were at a party the night the Ali-Holmes(?) contest was broadcast, when a bunch of W/white middleclass guys were suddenly commentators and experts in front of the womenfolk. What's doubly amusing is that we actually did see things that the women didn't, and one of them told us later that she'd never thought before that there was anything to boxing but raw flailing.
that there was anything to boxing but raw flailing.
When I was living in a workers' dorm in Germany there were two cousins from the Ivory Coast also living there, one of whom had sparred with Dick Tiger. He showed me some things, and yes, I learned that there was a lot more to boxing than raw flailing. In particular, a lot of the defensive and counter punching was directed at particular muscles with the aim of weakening them. I'm in no way a boxer, but there really is a science to it.
We have Kathy Hochul labelling Lee Zeldin a extremist and encourages the stalking of him. Some nut case takes the bait and tries to stab him. Do we need a congressional hearing?
If Zeldin's security was armed, would they be justified in taking him out?
My Dad loved boxing. I remember him watching it often. He didn’t spend time watching any other sport that I can think of.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o74rQmLRqtA
This is a great interview w/a woman from Senegal, originally.
She has a heart of gold and breathes fire!!! Brilliant woman.
The 3rd photo has a halo.
It’s gorgeous <3
What violence ashley babbit shot like a dog rosalyn boyland beaten to death almost as high a body count as the boston massacre but that came from the peacemakers pelosis personal keystone killers
Too many dont seem to care about how this country is being irrevocably destroyed with the cooperation of practically every media outlet and every government agency
I'm waiting for the DemoncRAT Department of Injustice to indict Trump. For anything they can think of. That's when Trump's support solidifies. The Never Trump wing of the Republican Party is going to come to the realization that they're next when Trump is indicted over nothing. And people on the edge are going to shift over to Trump- no one in the USA wants to live in a Banana Republic where former leaders are thrown in jail because the new ones dislike the old ones..
News Corp is calling in the editorials blasting Trump. WSJ is right in line with Murdoch's Last Stand in the NY Post. That makes for News Corp's largest US print and digital newspapers. So far, nothing from the Aussie and Limey branches of the Murdoch empire.
The Hopeless gadfly: "Rupert Murdoch has abandoned Donald Trump in a NY Post editorial."
LOL
gadfly actually believes Murdoch was a Trump fan!
Unbelievable! But then again, it is gadfly after all.
Murdoch hates Trump. Always has. Even in the lead up to 2016. Murdoch directed Megyn Kelly to destroy Trump.
But Trump survived after which Murdoch reluctantly backed Trump when the republican field was down to 3 candidates and Murdoch reportedly thought only Trump could beat gadfly's beloved Hillary.
Murdoch also backed some policies that Trump espoused over the years.
The ONLY people who dont know this history are far left democraticals...and gadfly!
Thus, gadfly is a lefty democratical.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
“The Republican faithful are telling me,”
the Great American, Bill Cunningham of WKRP--umm--WLW in Cincinnati said, “they can't find J.D. Vance with a search warrant.”
@Prince Hal, (Hopefully you'll see this.)
Thank you for that anecdote on a prior comment thread, about FDR, Willie, and Churchill, and the poems they exchanged. That was wonderful.
Can you imagine anything like that happening today? "As we prepare for our battle against climate change, here's a Maya Angelou poem."
Dave Weigel's out of gender insensitivity jail and telling WaPo readers what the unwashed GOP masses are saying about the plans the current administration has for them. In the comments, the readership basically screams SHUT UP! The level of combined incredulity and unawareness from the WaPo reader base is staggering.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/07/24/republicans-civil-war-midterms/
Reference to boxing commentators above, boxing is the only sport I can watch enthusiastically without having a rooting interest in the outcome. Sweet science is an accurate description and seeing tactics change as a fight progresses is fascinating. You can’t win without throwing punches yet every punch you throw leaves you open to serious pain and also expends energy. The middle and lower weights have some good fighters today but, as ever, the governing bodies are trash. It is a hard sport to follow because there are too many weight classes and too many sanctioning bodies so there are too many redundant champs.
Additional facts from the aforementioned Nation Review article:
"In 2016, Gabriel Debenedetti of Politico laid out how the Hillary Clinton campaign “always wanted Trump” as its general-election opponent. “Clinton’s team in Brooklyn was delightedly puzzled by Trump’s shift into the pole position that July. . . . [Campaign manager Robby] Mook took him so seriously that his team’s internal, if informal, guidance was to hold fire on Trump during the primary and resist the urge to distribute any of the opposition research the Democrats were scrambling to amass against him. That hoarding plan remained in place deep into 2016 as some senior aides stayed convinced that a race against Trump would be a dream for Clinton.” When Trump was nominated, the Democratic Party’s top operatives, strategists, and activists boasted, “In the swing states that matter most in the presidential race, Donald Trump doesn’t have a prayer against Hillary Clinton in the general election.”
The 2016 election was about as shocking and painful a defeat for Democrats as any U.S. political party has suffered in the past generation.
You would think that Democrats would have learned from the 2016 results to never assume that someone is unelectable and to never play with fire by boosting a radical fringe candidate in a GOP primary. But that idea assumes that Democrats are capable of learning from their mistakes."
At the risk of running afoul of the "repetition" guideline, I'll say again that the DNCC intended to run Donald Trump as a straw candidate, just as Claire McCaskill did in Missouri some years before. While it's true that the party underestimated his appeal (and overestimated Hillary's), their gift of free TV coverage, negative as it was, helped and didn't hinder to he Trump campaign. What concerns me most is the bald manipulation of our democratic process to secure their desired result.
"President Joe Biden in June achieved the highest disapproval rating in the history of modern polling. This month, his popularity declined even further.
About 60 percent of Americans disapprove of the president, according to FiveThirtyEight’s polling average. Just 38 percent of Americans approve. Biden's disapproval has risen and his approval has fallen by a few points in the last month, when he first became the most unpopular commander in chief in recorded history."
Source: FiveThirtyEight via the Washington Free Beacon
"President Joe Biden in June achieved the highest disapproval rating in the history of modern polling. This month, his popularity declined even further."
If you want to know why gadfly is working overtime to distract from the inevitable and easily predicted massive failure of his beloved democratical's policies, this would be it.
"no one in the USA wants to live in a Banana Republic where former leaders are thrown in jail because the new ones dislike the old ones.."
Seems like Democrats are okay with the idea. As long as they're the ones throwing people in jail, that is.
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